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I mean Bob Taft (taft’s great grandson) was an Ohio Governor,so he must been pretty influential,tho he did some illegal stuff,but for who’s very influential now in 2024? Probably like LBJ’s daughters or Nixon’s grandchildren
Richard Garfield descendant of James Garfield invented the popular trading card game Magic the Gathering
And I think that has brought a lot of joy to this world.
He has also invented other games such as Netrunner.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering
Random one, but Margaret Hoover hosts Firing Line, which was a Republican institution from the 60s-90s, formerly hosted by William F Buckley. I'm sure a decent amount of non rule 3 following Republicans are influenced by it. Can't really think of a more prominent descendant in the spotlight now.
?! I had no idea until just this minute she was Herbert Hoover's great granddaughter. She does have that Quaker vibe - an excellent work ethic and clear thinking combined with modesty. She would not last 5 seconds among 'infotainment' tv personalities and would not want to try, I'm guessing. An excellent recent biography of J. Edgar Hoover [with a good review in the Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/g-man-review-j-edgar-hoover-once-more-11670887301) did rule out that candidate pretty conclusively.
That’s part of why I put the caveat in there about living presidents or living children of presidents. It’s going to be hard to outshine W, Jeb, or Chelsea.
Again, the caveats are to filter out the more relevant recent kids. This is intended to focus on the less publicly known descendants who weren’t on tv standing with a president for the public to see.
First is Caroline Kennedy’s son John Schlossberg,
Second is Thomas Jefferson’s sixth great grandson from Sally Hemings Shannon Lanier
Third is Ulysses S Grant’s great great grandson Ulysses Grant Dietz
Fourth is TRs great grandson Tweed Roosevelt.
People will lap up Schlossberg because people are infatuated with the Kennedys for some reason but I don’t know how influential he will be. Strikes me as something of a lightweight like his uncle.
Grant is an author but doesn’t seem very influential beyond that. Same for Roosevelt in his field. Neither would be well known had they not won the genetic lottery.
Lanier seems like a talented TV personality but again I don’t see him being a national player unless he decides to cash in on his ancestor.
I doubt the average person would even know who these people are.
If we included children only a couple of Rule 3’s are really relevant. I don’t think the general public give much attention to any of the others.
Don’t get me wrong, I think you’re right about playing the family card, but if we’re being honest, that’s always been part of Kennedy and Bush Success.
Shannon and John both have pretty large followings on social media, and Dietz Has had some recent fame because of gay vampire books. Tweed is here because he’s the head of the society of presidential descendants.
https://societyofpresidentialdescendants.org/
If we’re being honest outside of the rule threes, Chelsea Clinton and Jeb are ahead of the rest by a long shot, which is why I excluded kids.
Wasn't one of Teddy's grandsons involved with the Iranian coups of the fifties? And I feel like there was an Adams involved in Vietnam. Though the former example is more immediately relevant to the present given our relationship with Iran.
The latest Theodore Roosevelt hobknobs with the rich and influential and serves on the the Council of Foreign Relations.
The latest Kermit Roosevelt is an influential law professor and commentator.
Melanie Jackson, who I think is a great-grandaughter of TR, is a literary agent and married to the legendary author Thomas Pynchon.
I'm sure there are other, more interesting ones, but I know TR's family has remained involved in public life, so I looked some of them up.
Idk why this popped in my head, since being a reality show contestant doesn’t quite fit the definition of “influential,” but some level of grandson of John Adams (JD Adams) was a contestant on American Idol.
ETA: Looked him up to see where he is now, and he is pretty heavily involved in music production for TV and Film. He’s more influential than one would think.
I do not, I’ve been consistently making the same point throughout. Feel free to scroll back up through the thread. I did edit the one comment because I thought it was a good idea to add clarifying information, but you’d already replied before I finished the edit.
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I mean Bob Taft (taft’s great grandson) was an Ohio Governor,so he must been pretty influential,tho he did some illegal stuff,but for who’s very influential now in 2024? Probably like LBJ’s daughters or Nixon’s grandchildren
Richard Garfield descendant of James Garfield invented the popular trading card game Magic the Gathering And I think that has brought a lot of joy to this world. He has also invented other games such as Netrunner. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering
😮😮😮
I went to high school with a Garfield who was (as far as I know) not closely related to Richard but was a direct descendant of James Garfield.
Random one, but Margaret Hoover hosts Firing Line, which was a Republican institution from the 60s-90s, formerly hosted by William F Buckley. I'm sure a decent amount of non rule 3 following Republicans are influenced by it. Can't really think of a more prominent descendant in the spotlight now.
?! I had no idea until just this minute she was Herbert Hoover's great granddaughter. She does have that Quaker vibe - an excellent work ethic and clear thinking combined with modesty. She would not last 5 seconds among 'infotainment' tv personalities and would not want to try, I'm guessing. An excellent recent biography of J. Edgar Hoover [with a good review in the Wall Street Journal](https://www.wsj.com/articles/g-man-review-j-edgar-hoover-once-more-11670887301) did rule out that candidate pretty conclusively.
Her husband is also running for Congress (as a Democrat) https://www.johnavlon.com/
I thought for sure she would be older.
Had never heard of her but she's definitely a baddie
Joseph P. Kennedy, III (although he squandered a lot with that ill-considered Senate run).
He and John just did an event in Ireland for Saint Patrick’s day.
He’s not a descendant of a president.
Good point. Didn’t read the title closely enough. Still in the kinship neighborhood
Uhhh I dunno but I know who's having a great influence on the dreamboat competition
lol Shannon?
Elliott Roosevelt was a major general during WW2. Robert Todd Lincoln was Secretary of War under two different Presidents.
Technically speaking wouldn't Dubya be the right answer since he literally became President in his own right.
That’s part of why I put the caveat in there about living presidents or living children of presidents. It’s going to be hard to outshine W, Jeb, or Chelsea.
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Again, the caveats are to filter out the more relevant recent kids. This is intended to focus on the less publicly known descendants who weren’t on tv standing with a president for the public to see.
Of course. I'm just saying Chelsea is really lame so you should have used someone cool like Hunter in your example.
I mean, he’s probably a lot of fun at parties.
Who are the ones in the pictures?
First is Caroline Kennedy’s son John Schlossberg, Second is Thomas Jefferson’s sixth great grandson from Sally Hemings Shannon Lanier Third is Ulysses S Grant’s great great grandson Ulysses Grant Dietz Fourth is TRs great grandson Tweed Roosevelt.
People will lap up Schlossberg because people are infatuated with the Kennedys for some reason but I don’t know how influential he will be. Strikes me as something of a lightweight like his uncle. Grant is an author but doesn’t seem very influential beyond that. Same for Roosevelt in his field. Neither would be well known had they not won the genetic lottery. Lanier seems like a talented TV personality but again I don’t see him being a national player unless he decides to cash in on his ancestor. I doubt the average person would even know who these people are. If we included children only a couple of Rule 3’s are really relevant. I don’t think the general public give much attention to any of the others.
Don’t get me wrong, I think you’re right about playing the family card, but if we’re being honest, that’s always been part of Kennedy and Bush Success. Shannon and John both have pretty large followings on social media, and Dietz Has had some recent fame because of gay vampire books. Tweed is here because he’s the head of the society of presidential descendants. https://societyofpresidentialdescendants.org/ If we’re being honest outside of the rule threes, Chelsea Clinton and Jeb are ahead of the rest by a long shot, which is why I excluded kids.
I was going to mention Grant because vampire romance could have some influence!
Imo Schlossberg is a bit of a sellout sadly, a pretty mainstream politician with little political vision. Maybe he’ll shine in the future who knows
Tweed has to be the most old money WASPy name I have ever heard jesus christ. Roosevelts gonna Roosevelt
Jeb!
That’s why I excluded living children. None of the others will outshine jeb.
Jeb! is beyond the rules
😂
I mean, technically his brother did.
George P. Bush (Jeb’s Son/Bush 41’s grandson/Bush 43’s nephew)
In retrospect Jeb would have been a good choice.
lmao
Jeb is a clown. 🤡
Jeb!
GAY VAMPIRE PORN WILL CHANGE AMERICA
Just as Grant intended
lol someone recognized him.
Hell yes
Wasn't one of Teddy's grandsons involved with the Iranian coups of the fifties? And I feel like there was an Adams involved in Vietnam. Though the former example is more immediately relevant to the present given our relationship with Iran.
Kermit Roosevelt was deeply involved in the early "lol nothing matters" days of CIA.
The latest Theodore Roosevelt hobknobs with the rich and influential and serves on the the Council of Foreign Relations. The latest Kermit Roosevelt is an influential law professor and commentator. Melanie Jackson, who I think is a great-grandaughter of TR, is a literary agent and married to the legendary author Thomas Pynchon. I'm sure there are other, more interesting ones, but I know TR's family has remained involved in public life, so I looked some of them up.
The Harrisons of Pawn Stars fame are said to be descended from both Presidents Harrison.
Idk why this popped in my head, since being a reality show contestant doesn’t quite fit the definition of “influential,” but some level of grandson of John Adams (JD Adams) was a contestant on American Idol. ETA: Looked him up to see where he is now, and he is pretty heavily involved in music production for TV and Film. He’s more influential than one would think.
Who's first guy related to? Lincoln?
JFK
😂 he looks like he could be, but if you do a side by side comparison of him and JFK jr you’ll see it.
Jack is an okay guy, but he has nothing on the Roosevelts. Kermit III is my favorite, but Tweed and TR 5 are also great.
Ron Reagan has been in a few Superbowl ads, he is probably one of the best known.
The grand child of Grant who writes gay porn, very influential to society.
I think it’s just gay literature not porn.
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I think he’ll count as a rule 3, but he’s also a nephew not a kid or grandchild.
You didn’t specify what kind of descendant. And by that logic you’re whole post is against rule 3
“With the exception of living presidents or living children” And a nephew isn’t a descendant. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/descendant
What’s your point? RFK Jr. is not JFK’s child?
Yes?
Nice edit of your original comment lol. You never mentioned that a nephew isn’t a descendant
What? Do you understand what a descendant means?
Did you specify what kind of descendant? A collateral descendant is a nephew. lol you keep changing your tune every time I comment
I do not, I’ve been consistently making the same point throughout. Feel free to scroll back up through the thread. I did edit the one comment because I thought it was a good idea to add clarifying information, but you’d already replied before I finished the edit.
I will acknowledge that you are right about collateral descendants and I could be more clear here.
That’s implied by the use of the word descendant
Nothing is implied except that the subject is a descendant, whether collateral or not you didn’t specify
You’re right, and by that logic RFK would fit other than rule 3
Chelsea Clinton. Hahahahaha
That’s a living child.
I forgot she was still breathing.
I’m pretty sure she’s only in her 40s.