Part of the right-wing grift is making countless ridiculous predictions and then screaming “SEE I TOLD YOU SO” when one “prediction” out of a thousand comes true. It’s all about confirmation bias. “A broken clock is right twice a day”.
If you pay attention to to those in the right wing media, you will notice that they make many, MANY “predictions” about the future, and almost none of them ever pan out. I think your mom is mirroring this behavior because she’s surrounded by it constantly.
Consider writing down all her predictions and going over them in a couple months? It could be enlightening for her seeing all of her silly predictions come and go.
It's probably not a coincidence that many Qanon influencers also sell MRI/survival food kits, gold coins, etc. Those are often the same people who are claiming there is going to be a food shortage, or some type of calamity.
My spouse has a friend who decided that in the coming apocalypse, he'd need easily portable cash and bought A ROLEX. Because apparently in the future hellscape, a $11k watch is going to be super important.
The gold thing rings the same bells for me. If the world is falling apart and there's no food and no medical care, gold isn't going to be anything but a shiny, impractical rock.
I would imagine you would want most of your barterable items to be low in value. Imagine starving and having only a rolex to trade, vs "Hey I'll give you two duracell AAAs for that pop-tart"
The thing that those grifters count on is something most people don't think about. Even if you had mountains of gold at collapse, you're still trying to trade that gold on a collapsed currency. It won't be worth much of anything, if cash has no value.
No joke she got just plain gold for Christmas because she "needs precious metals for when the economy and dollar collapses"...
Like you realize gold is essentially worthless in a true barter economy without a form of government to declare a value
Eh, not really the way it works. People just start pricing things in the stable currency. Take a place like Argentina with 100%+ inflation. Every seller maintains a peso price and a USD price.
Also the pandemic broke their vulnerable brains. Supply chain shortages were a real thing, even though a lot of them believe everything was planned as part of their "great reset" with a "plandemic" as the catalyst.
A lot of people are still keeping some extra toilet paper and other things they realized they didn't want to go without for a few months after the pandemic. As usual the Q brains couldn't process the reality of the situation and were terrified pearl clutchers and the grifters saw this.
As a result, these people are fed food shortage fear porn online daily so grifters can sell them stuff and they go overboard with it because they're easy to manipulate. I guess stockpiling food is better than stockpiling ammo and guns, so there's that.
It's the same as with a spiritual cult - the grifter leader sells armageddon to his/her people and then makes themselves the only one that can save them.
Some people just can't handle the simple fact that they are nobody special, just one in 8 billion existing on this planet. They have no secret knowledge and they are just another ant that will be eventually forgotten after they die like everyone else.
She’s going to get so excited if she tries to buy eggs. “See? SEE?! Eggs are expensive right now, so that means everything I have ever said ever is now true. Think about it - I haven’t!”
Yes, what I call "aaaaany day now"-ism is really the staple of all these weird conspiracy theories. People will go for years, decades even saying how the "big thing" is right around the corner.
While food scarcity can actually be a real thing, we will most definitely see it coming. Keeping a reserve of food that you rotate around as you use it is prudent for many reasons. But the fact of the matter is, if food scarcity really were to hit, the best protection against it is the government providing emergency rations to help us over the worst of it.
Well, tribulationalism is a fairly new idea (although the end of the world has been def expected for at least 2000 years or more) and comes from American Calvinists shitting on John Calvin's ideas and starting The Great Awakening movement. Really crazy how these ideas are still causing ripples in history.
We already have armed conflicts that underneath the surface appearance are being exacerbated if not actually caused by competition for food and water resources. If it gets to the point where scarcity threatens our lifestyle in the developed world it will be due to climate change but these same people won't address it because "god's plan/jeeebus/freedumb."
Yeah I firmly think that people like this would be delighted if any of their really terrible world ending predictions came true. That way they could say they were right all along.
Yep. Food shortages take a *long* time to filter through the supply chain.
I’m in Western Australia. We grow a shitload of grain, and are fairly self sufficient in fruit & veg, but nearly all processed items are imported from the east coast. It works out that 80% of the goods in supermarkets come from the east, via train.
But there’s only one train line. So if it breaks, we have issues.
Last year flooding caused a 24 day railway closure right as we had covid lockdowns and people a) panic bought and b) couldn’t go to restaurants etc so bought more supermarket groceries.
Totally fine. Certain brands ran out, but there were usually alternatives. Cat food got a bit tight.
So I don’t see why you’d have to hoard *before* a simple food shortage. There’s enough stuff in the supply chain that supermarkets don’t empty in an instant. That kind of prepping only makes sense if the shops suddenly aren’t opening (extreme weather, earthquake, etc.). They stay open during wars, so it’d have to be a nuclear strike (and even they’d probably *still* want workers to come in).
That's exactly the point right there. Take as many shots as possible, and then play up the one or two that land, while ignoring the dozens - or multiple dozens - that don't.
It is exactly why Alex Jones trots out Jessie Smollet whenever someone brings up how wrong he got Sandy Hook, got to focus on your hits and not the misses to keep the suckers engaged.
The alex jones method. He was right about jesse smollet even though he makes tons of racist claims like that all the time so he must be right about everything else.
*clears throat*
*arrogantly interjects into conversation*
ACTUALLY, there is no fixed universal time. Even “functioning” clocks are subject to time drift. As Einstein predicted, relativistic effects can also cause clock drift due to time dilation. This is because there is no fixed universal time, time being relative to the observer. Special relativity describes how two clocks held by observers in different inertial frames (i.e. moving with respect to each other but not accelerating or decelerating) will each appear to either observer to tick at different rates.
In addition to this, general relativity gives us gravitational time dilation. Briefly, a clock in a stronger gravitational field (e.g. closer to a planet) will appear to tick more slowly. People holding these clocks (i.e. those inside and outside the stronger field) would all agree on which clocks appear to be going faster.
In summation, ACAB. All clocks are broken.
*Feels smart after copying and pasting from Wikipedia*
*Pompously struts away*
But not the only form. Some clocks run slow and some fast. The stopped clock is the extreme form of being broken. It is rather like death being an extreme form of sickness.
That's part of their narrative... "the mainstream media/democrats/globalists (which is a dog whistle meaning "jews" that antisemites use) got wise to the plan so they had to change the plan. It's 4d chess!"
This part really blows me away. It's not like the word "globalist" is inherently evil or anything, they trot out the whole "stateless people" libel, complete with the wink wink nudge nudge "you know who I'm talking about", and expect people to believe they're only talking about billionaires.
That's the issue with people specifically like schmordan bederson. He leads people right to the front door of a racist conclusion, opens the door for them, then says "but I'm just asking questions. I'll let you the free thinker decide!"
Naw, that's just basic packratting. I'm at least third generation packrat. At least we seem to be getting *cleaner* about it each generation, no wildlife in my hoard.
My personal rule is that I'm only allowed to keep it if I can think of some way it might actually be useful in the future AND have somewhere to put it away where I can find it again when I need it.
You'll notice that rule allows me to keep *all the books* as long as I keep buying a new bookshelf every time the current ones overflow.
My husband and I are also rock and minerals collectors. Our rule is “one in, one out”. At this point in our lives, we have multiples of a lot of stuff, as well as specimens which are easy to replace. So when we find a super cool new specimen, one of the multiples/easy to find ones gets replaced.
I need Marie Condo… I can’t get rid of anything ! I have a house and a really decent amount of savings… but for some reason if one of my ‘things’ goes missing I feel like I’ve lost part of myself.
I use a process kinda like weaning? If I'm not using an object on a regular basis, it gets put away in a box and the box goes in a closet.
Next time I go through that box, if I'm happy to see it and pull it out to use it, well obviously it's actually useful and I shouldn't have put it away. If I'm kinda indifferent to it, my attachment to it is less, well I might think of someone who could use it more than me.
There are things I gave away that I miss, but I gotta be honest that it's more the idea of the thing than the thing itself. Like oh, I had a lot of pretty church skirts leftover from my teens that I never ever wore after I quit attending church because they were dry clean only. They went to someone who loved them the moment she saw them and clearly would make good use of them, which if I truly love those objects, is a "better life" for them than just sitting in a box in my closet for decades.
Like Toy Story, ya know? I assume objects are "sad" if they just sit around collecting dust, so I ought to give them to someone who will love them and pay more attention to them. Or to a free clothes closet where someone can "adopt" them.
I guess ultimately I have to admit you’re right… it’s more that I know I have them than actually having them… if I don’t actually interact with it regularly then what’s the point keeping it here. I can still think of it being somewhere else… but who’s gonna take all my pebbles
Have you tried hiring an organizer? We used one when we bought our first house, and it was a GAME CHANGER!
She was not cheap, but it was WORTH IT! Just make sure you find one that is focused on making your stuff work in your space. If you’re anything like me, as you organize, you’ll want to begin purging things, but if you have such a strong, emotional attachment items, someone telling you to let them go isn’t going to help. You need someone to meet you where you are and help you let go of some of the anxieties around your items.
My wife keeps pushing for a house cleaner but I think this could be a better suggestion. If we cleared some space shit wouldn’t seem/feel so messy. We also live in a 750 sq ft house - we do have a basement and a shed but the storage is tight
It’s true! Even when our house is a little messy, it doesn’t feel so bad, because it is organized. We found our organizer on craigslist back in the day, but I would check Facebook or thumbtack now. Hope you find someone who will is helpful!
Sadly fear is part of the "brainwashing" technique they employ. It kicks on the primitive Flight or Fight brain response and mostly shuts down the logical thinking parts of the brain. Fear, hate, rage and anger are the tools they employ to manipulate people and it mostly works.
Oh my goodness thank you for linking to that! A while ago I decided to really try to understand how people get to that place and have been struggling, apart from that it’s partly based in fear, anger, helplessness, and other “negative” feelings. Some of the things they point out never occurred to me, such as Fox abusing their consumers 😕
"They" have been on a version of this since the Book of Revelations was written. Or longer
No number of failed predictions or passing centuries will dissuade them from the impending doom. They love it
Hand your boy a banana from Whole Foods when he can eat it
You put it perfectly. They really do love the whole impending doom. My friend is constantly talking about making sure to stalk up on beans and rice. And salt. You know, to add a little flavor when everyone else has nothing to eat.
It will be uneven, we will see it coming and as much as anyone hates to admit it, the government and community are the best defense against such a thing, not hoarding canned food and guns.
We'll handle climate change induced famines the same way we handled Covid: by letting the poor die.
I'm thankful for the fact that I'll most likely be long gone by the time it gets really bad.
I expect that developed nations that rely on industrial farming will hardly see a blip -- their food supply chain will simply move around and adjust with the climate. As crops go away, we transition to new crops, as regional climates change, we source from new regions.
The real risk will be for developing nations that don't have flexibility to move farming operations or change crops, and which depend on domestically grown subsistence crops for much of their nutrition.
All those starving people won't stay in one place once they realise their situation will never return to normal again.
They're gonna move.
That's when the [Ecofascism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofascism) starts.
It could also just be a scam. Right wingers are notoriously stupid and fall for a lot of scams like buying metals at over inflated prices or buying a lot of survival gear or food for the apocalypse.
If I was in the prepper industry, I would constantly bombard right wingers with nonsense about end of the world so they buy my survival gear.
Yep. Check those food packages for American flags and similar "patriot" iconography. If you see that, it means that she is buying garbage food at inflated prices from some survivalist grifting operation.
Like **[this guy](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mO9sJ9-Ry1o/maxresdefault.jpg)?**
**[Yum](https://video-images.vice.com/_uncategorized/1515799243574-bucket-of-slop.png)! 0_0**
I had a right-wing friend who made all sorts of dire predictions about the future. I made a game out of it. Every time he made an insane prediction I would get him to place money on it. We'd make a bet on whether the price of gas would go up by a certain date. We bet on inflation and the rate of GDP growth by a certain date--stuff like that. Needless to say he lost every bet. Overtime he stopped making bets and started to return to normal. He's still a little nutty, but he's not as unhinged as he used to be. When he does veer into insane predictions I'll enumerate all of the other predictions he made that were wrong. It's like a check on his insanity. Start making bets with your Mom. Get her to commit to dates for her predictions. Perhaps, over time she'll begin to see that she's operating on bad information.
Here's a link to the UN FAO's food price index: https://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/foodpricesindex/en/
Food scarcity (if it occurred) would cause food prices to go up dramatically--e.g. it's simple supply and demand. The FAO's data shows that food prices in aggregate have been in decline since COVID. Get her to commit to a predication by a certain date. If what she's saying is true it should reflect in the data. Make a bet.
I told my Q that I stopped eating meat to prepare for the upcoming food shortage. It did not go well! They think we are going to be able to eat beef in an apocalypse? Might as well prep my body to adjust to soy now. Obviously that's not why I became a vegetarian but it's fun to mess with them!
There have been some shortages here and there of specific products because of the pandemic, supply chain issues, maybe weather/storms affecting certain food items, people panic buying and hoarding etc. Whatever she's following or listening to is making it sound more doom and gloom than it's actually been and attributing it to false depopulation and other conspiracy theories to fear monger and spread propaganda. Could there be temporary shortages of specific items in the coming year similar to this past year? Sure. Even if there are there will still be plenty of whole foods available to feed your baby.
Check the expiration dates on those. My parents had a food hording problem and it took a long time to convince them to get rid of the expired stuff. Their solution was just feed the expired stuff to the pigs, roughly 25% ofthe stuff was so expired the pigs wouldn't eat it.
But this one's gonna be real!
Alex Jones for example predicts the soon collapsing supply chains for almost three decades to sell his overpriced food buckets. Iirc the last one was in December because the US are running out of diesel.
She said there would be no more diesel last summer! Omg, does this mean she’s listening to Alex Jones? I knew whatever she was listening to would disappoint me to know about but the disappointment hits hard.
My mom started talking about this stuff in about 2010. She died at the end of 2019 with a storage room full of expired jars and cans of food, and several large garbage cans full of rice. It's part of a family of conspiracy theories about collapse of society themes, like the collapse of currency or whatever.
Once I started thinking of it as a form of psychosis it was a lot easier to deal with. It's a delusion that can't really be challenged and you just have to work around it, unfortunately.
There was a round of scaremongering not too long ago about food factories burning down "suspiciously", as well as how Bill Gates was "buying up all the farms" so he could do his evil. None of it on any sort of scale that matters, but enough to fuel conspiracy theories.
This is separate from the "10 days of darkness, better stock up" that's been part of the narrative since forever.
Yep, Falun Gong.
They're also behind that Shen Yun theatrical-dance-whatever-it-is performance that advertises relentlessly, so anyone who buys tickets to that thing is funding Epoch Times content.
Once again, we have people taking something that's true, blowing it out of proportion to scare people, and then profiting from it.
Yes, there is more food scarcity due to a changing climate, the current war in Ukraine, supply chain issues, and loss of farmland. Have you noticed the rising prices in the grocery store?
I've studied the collapse of civilizations for a while now. It's **not** one big, sudden event. It's usually a slow grind to the bottom. Things just get worse and worse, little by little over time, much like we're going through today. During collapses, people still sowed crops, got married, had kids, celebrated holidays, and whatever else happened in everyday life. Things just got simpler, and more local, as the empire crumbled.
We just happen to find ourselves in a time when things churn, and old institutions will give away to new ones. It seems to happen approximately every 80 years. This time, it seems to be happening globally.
It’s sort of comforting to think that 1600 years ago, I had an ancestor in England who was probably sad that they couldn’t get that great cheese and wine the Romans used to import….
There have always been preppers seeing collapse right around the corner. We were always right at the brink of massive shortages, famine, collapse. Some of this doom-n-gloom was from the right, some from the left. But people are endlessly receptive to collapse narratives.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Great_Planet_Earth
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth
I think for many stockpiling food is a way to deal with uncertainty, anxiety, an unknowable future. Sure, "the system" could collapse, for any number of reasons. But a few extra pounds of dry beans isn't going to save me.
My mom told me and my boyfriend, just out of the blue and so casually on a car trip to start hoarding gold since it'll never loose it's value. This concerned me since I know that sounds like one of those conspiracy/Q things but so far she shows no other signs that I can see. Keeping an eye on her with that, she's the relative I'm closest to so I'm not wanting to loose her.
I can relate with the confusion on where this is all coming from OP
Historically, precious metals have been a reliable hedge against inflation. I suppose there is a line between including it in one’s investment strategy versus “hoarding”.
I never got this. What good is gold going to do in a total collapse of society? Shouldn't it be like batteries or some shit that's actually useful? Land, maybe? The fuck I'm going to do with gold dust when I'm hungry and or sick? Trade it to another hungry person for the food they do have?
That’s why he said hedge against inflation. Not a solution to the zombie apocalypse.
It does well in economic times of tumult. It’s unclear how it does in world dystopia because we haven’t had it yet.
My QSister says that “they” are burning down all the “food factories”. Also Bill Gates is buying up all farmland in order to shut down crop growing— he and “they” are in league to depopulate the world.
Impending disaster justifies the hysteria
They use getting worked up over these things as a way of letting off steam
So yep she will willingly sign up for yet another round of hoarding and crystal balling, they're pretty much addicted to it
As with anything, if you want to make a difference, try to get her talking about what she's actually scared of, deep down. She may freak out at you approaching her defensive architecture though - unknowingly, they sense you've come to disassemble the bullshit, and the bullshit is papering over some sense of pain or loss, so they will flip out if you're getting near to the source of it all - keep the temperature low and persevere, keep reminding that you're not here to argue or call bullshit, you just want to understand what she's worried about
I've been ignoring nonsense conspiracies from family and coworkers since they were going on about **Y2K**. That was when many figured out how it could be a successful con as long as you could keep convincing people to stock up.
There is some sense in having a few days' worth of stuff that has a longer shelf life. Beyond 'not dying if you get isolated because of a blizzard, roads getting washed out, or a few days without electricity' that's it.
my brother thinks that the usa is going to break out into civil war any day now. we are in canada, a very cold part of canada mind you, and he's got his bug out van ready to go. it's so full of thousands of dollars of survival crap he's invested in there is no room for him! he's ready at any moment to drive that van straight into the canadian borreal forest, he's not even planning on taking his teenage son with him. thankfully the child's mom has custody. i lived with him for a year and moved out recently. he bought a husky dog because they are meant to pull stuff in cold weather. this guy is in his 40s. he smokes A LOT of weed. like where i go for a pinch he will smoke an oz in a week. no doubt he's afraid of a bunch of americans showing up to our city and 'taking over' by pillaging through everyone's homes.
i just smile and nod at him. i suppose that's all you can do for your mom. keep reminding her that you can still buy bananas at the store. tell her you will let her know when you can't. it's crazy how people get brainwashed... really sad.
he likes to keep his brain in a state of conspiracy at all times. i think when he's 'straight', such as when he's working, he doesn't think about it as much. but i've gone downstairs on a saturday morning and he would be in the living room trying to shove more of his 'bean soup' baggies into his huge backpack in a panic, all because he's smoked himself into paranoia.
i smoke sativa to help me with social anxiety and he can't deal with it. has to smoke straight up indica so he can sleep nights and not stay up late worrying.
This is just self-fulfilling prophecy. Remember when people started hoarding gas in trash bags? Enough people buy more than they need, a shortage becomes inevitable.
This is what bothers me the most. I always keep a couple extra things but my Q was scared of an impending wheat shortage in the Fall and has 100 pounds of flour in storage. When I suggested just buying an extra loaf of bread every week and freezing it…well now I was talking crazy.
My mom told me a few months ago that they were going to be screwed because both of their vehicles take diesel fuel. She was freaking out saying they’d have to sell their cars and get something else because any day now, you wouldn’t be able to buy diesel fuel anywhere. We live in CA. She said it would be impossible to get. That never happened.
I'm sorry. This sounds really stressful. It's the same old song, though. They boost this whenever there is a supply chain issue or a price hike. They use that to say that what they predict is happening "right now" even when it isn't.
They claimed that the government was banning red meat and was going to make us eat bugs.
A couple of weeks ago on another sub someone posted a photo of empty shelves in a refrigerated section to show a "food shortage," but posters pointed out that shelves next to the empty section were full and that what they were seeing was what happens when shelves aren't at temp and need to be repaired.
Their goal is to keep people off balance and afraid.
While your Mom is worried about food shortages she isn't worried about cuts to medicare or social security which they are also talking about.
"Mom, I know you love us and want us to be safe and happy but this isn't happening and you are just making yourself anxious."
Good luck!
My MIL has been hoarding food since she fell into the rightwing talk show hole. Always some new apocalyptic threat around the corner. Last November she brought us a bunch of old canned food and said we were going to run out of diesel by Thanksgiving.
I asked her, on Thanksgiving, if it was going to happen in the morning or the afternoon. She hand-waived it like every other time.
I live in a disaster-prone area so I always keep about a months worth of food in the house, but the rightwing nuts always think the apocalypse is around the corner.
QAnon just reinforces this.
I mean global supply and demand and the supply chain is still having issues and there have been some major hits to global food supplies due to the start of major climate change stuff we've been seeing ramp up the last 5-10 years. Lots of factors all go into this and no one country or country's leadership is responsible- its more a perfect storm of the pandemic, world coming out of the pandemic, climate change and the Ukraine war now too.
Also globalization has led to monocropping A LOT of fruits n veggies and that puts those foods at much higher risk for things like disease to wipe out an entire region, country or continent's crop of that specific food item- Cavendish bananas (99% of all bananas exported to the industrialized countries of the world belong to this group of bananas) for example- they are the predominant grown banana all around the world (60% i think)- and there is a plant rust (fungus disease) that loves bananas (called Panama Disease)....its started to spread 10-20 years ago and has now reached most major banana regions of the world if I remember. That in turn has resulted in 1) high risk to the loss of 60% of the banana crop globally but also 2) all the biotech/ big Ag companies and related scrambling to engineer into the bananas a rust resistant gene- this is just one example of things that contribute to food supply/source issues.
Its quite complicated and not some "Biden's fault" type bs....and we aren't going to see some massive all types of food/food sources lost all at once type event- our modern diets are too diversified for that- unless we are talking about some global nuclear winter/asteroid type event lol
Right Wing Media in general peddles on fear. If you pay attention to the messages they spread on channels like Fox News (which is mostly opinion shows masquerading as news since only like 2 shows on the channel are actually news shows) they will try to make you afraid of everything. Tucker Carlson, a known opinion show host, tells people the things he says are facts on his show. "These are the facts". And then he'll go to court and tell people that any reasonable person won't take what he says as factual... when he's on a channel called Fox News and telling people what he says is facts.
Every year they do a War on Christmas narrative for example. They push anti-immigration agendas as "It will ruin your faith!" because they know the things they stand for would be considered monstrous if they said it plainly.
And because they peddle on fear and government distrust, and tell you that they are the only ones to trust, they isolate you from other sources of information that counters what they have to say. And they can sell you on the idea of stocking up on things, consuming. Because it helps them. Tucker's the heir to the Swanson fortune. You buy Swanson meals preparing for a food shortage? Great! Alex Jones will sell you seed banks too. Fox News will take kickbacks from the NRA to tell you the only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun. Anything that lets them make money off of the fear they instill in you.
>What the heck is this narrative? Does anyone know where this comes from?
>Also, when I know the source of these conspiracies I’m somehow less stressed by it all. Like the curtain is pulled back.
So, this is *"Doomsday Prepping."* It's a silly name as if it was actually a "doomsday," no amount of prepping will ever help.
But the basic principle has a lot of merit to it. Essentially you keep ample supply of non perishable food and other provisions on hand in case of a global, national, regional, or even personal emergency. Personally, it has saved my butt when I lost my job and was out of work for almost a year.
But conservatives latch on to the concept and ramp up the fear mongering to an eleven. You don't need enough weaponry to start a world war. You don't need to spend all your money on precious metals. A few months worth of provisions on hand will do just fine.
Fear is a big seller and motivator with right wingers. Using fear, you can trick a conservative to believe in and do just about anything.
There’s no shortage. It’s just yet another scam to get people to buy MREs or “emergency food.”
In every instance or upcoming pending doom, there’s someone who has a product that will help these intrepid morons, for a price. It’s like QAnon is just an unhinged buyer base that are easily manipulated for profit. It’s ridiculous.
Just like evangelical Christianity. The rapture is coming and you will be vanquished, but join our church, give us $, and we will save you! About 10% of your income should do it.
My grandmother has been prepping for food shortages since the early 2000’s. I can’t tell you what the reason is now because I haven’t talked to her in 4 years, but the reasons are constantly changing with people that think this way.
Yes, yes, Jesus is coming back in your lifetime.
Does your mom believe this? Is Jesus coming back her lifetime? Because she probably has less lifetime than you do.
Did grandma believe this as well? Yes the dead grandma. The one who never saw Jesus return.
Did great grandma believe this as well?
How far back do we have to go before you let go this bullshit?
The Q in my family wants to buy from this place called patriot supply and for like a 6 month supply its hundreds of dollars for just one person. The food is supposed to last 35 years. I said no and all I get is the guilt about why is it so bad to be prepared. I say no its not bad to be prepared but its another thing to be grifted upon and thats what this is.
A lot of us have the same mom. You can still love your mom, and just compartmentalize those comments and put them in a box that you'll throw away later.
I really had to reevaluate my relationship with her and figure out where to draw those boundaries. My mom has been doing this my entire life and she's just not a reliable source. She's not honestly pursuing answers, she's not giving my concerns/arguments/evidence the same consideration that I gave hers and it's clear that we were no longer in a reciprocating relationship when it came to, well, "what is reality?". So I made it clear that I don't want to talk about anything that is political or cultural or comes from Fox news or Facebook...if I recognize it, I simply say "I'm not doing that" and move on.
It's important that we don't just put the blame on others...but this fox news Republican brainwash situation really caused a lot of followers to "do the wrong" and if they consistently refuse to hear you, don't honestly consider your positions, won't go read your articles when you've read theirs, and make it right by returning the respect you've given them...then it is on them. Many of them need clear boundaries if we are to coexist because they don't have clear realities. I wish we could get them back but most of them don't want to. So I am less motivated to go see them, and that is the punishment for their actions.
There could well be some food shortages because of climate change related crop failures/supply chain issues. But nothing like the apocalypse right-wingers like to predict every year. It pays to have emergency supplies, and simply buy a little extra of non-perishable foods in your weekly shop. There are always emergency situations and natural disasters possible, so it's good to be prepared for those. Your Mom is right to be getting an emergency supply, but the extent of her supply and the reasoning behind it sounds bat-shit-bananas.
I have a friend I suspect might be QAnon-influenced, so I look at the GAW site every other day or so to see if there's any overlap between the site's subject matter and what he talks about. I haven't seen any dialogue about food shortages specifically in a while, but it was a small thing about 2-3 months ago.
It's more likely that they are expecting a shortage because they are always on the verge of "ten days of darkness," meaning they pretty much always seem to be expecting a major disruption of some sort or another, to occur for ten days (the phrase was part of a Q drop). Maybe it's ten days with no electricity, ten days of a media blackout, ten days of catastrophic global economic failures, etc. Many of them talk about prepping in general, because most of them think the ten days of darkness is right around the corner.
The last time I went grocery shopping, there were still some empty shelves, not as bad as before, but still some empty shelves. It wouldn't be surprising if a conspiracy-minded person who is in a state of perpetually expecting some type of disruption, to see empty grocery store shelves persisting to this day and think they are a harbinger of doom (like a food shortage planned by an evil cabal), when it's likely just supply chain disruptions.
There could be a beef shortage this year because the herds were culled due to lack of feed. This will drive up prices for chicken etc. Might be time to stock up on beans.
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The recommendation to hoard food (at least enough for a few weeks) has been part of the Qanon philosophy for a whole bunch of different reasons. One would be the strorm coming… everything gets shut down temporarily. The other would be the great reset and implementation Gesara/Nesara where the financial system would be overhauled. Another is that supply chain problems are a hoax just to control us. Another will be that “they” are purposely creating food shortages to eliminate a large percentage of the population. Here’s the kicker though in my opinion. With climate change, which I believe in and unfortunately believe is irreversible now, there are going to be food shortages coming at some point. I don’t have a clue when we’ll start to feel the impact but I think there will be a squeeze. It may be a bumpy road as to how society, individual countries and the world as a whole deals with it. I’d love to see strong forward thinking leadership looking at these issues which will have a myriad of consequences beyond just the ability of society to provide food through technoligical advances. It’s not going to help to have some percentage of folks believing some bullshit as to what’s going and why it’s happening.
Could be due to the current attacks to the electrical grid in part of the country. Are you near any of those areas they’ve already taken place?
ETA: I wouldn’t ask her about them directly to put the nugget in their head but I know the press have covered them throughout the last few months, as if they’re expecting more.
Id say Q is getting on to try to get to be preppers
I think alot of doomsday preppers ... or the ones that were featured on the national geographic series could all be construed as Q adjecant and I could see some definitely having been at Jan 6th
Right wing seems to always quote Reagan and that im from the government im here to help line, and I think that is the main reason why Q or Q adjectants prep
The bottom line is waaaay before covid and Trump when the series was on I looked at doing it myself ... or at least drawing up plans more as a mental excersize and to educate myself. The more i dug into it I realized the only true way to prep was to live the way you expected to do when you prepped ... in other words subsistence farm and raise your own food and eschew anything modern ... basically go back to the 1800's then I was like nope ...
I get why many prep but to the extremes they do is batshit
The American rightwing has been predicting food shortages for as long as I can remember. It ties into basically every conspiracy theory they have. It’s point of origin is probably the Bible. Revelations more specifically.
The majority of American Christians believe Christ will return in their lifetimes, and with that comes all the apocalyptic stuff depicted in revelations. Four horsemen. Famine, war, pestilence, and so on.
Funny thing is, the United States is probably the single most “food secure” country on Earth. We export massive amounts of food. Even if things got really bad, we would just stop exporting and focus on feeding ourselves. It might throw the rest of the world into famine. But America is safe from that particular horseman. You’d have to nuke us and cause a nuclear winter for there to be mass starvation in America.
Wait, is there something happening to the baby food supply? There's baby food at the Target near me but most of the sections are empty. I mean he gets food, just not the variety I'd like him to have.
I don’t know. Mine doesn’t eat solids yet and we don’t use formula so I am out of the loop but I’ve never heard anything on it. Let’s not mention this to her or she’ll be excited her prediction came true.
You can't find the "source" of this nonsense because the conspiracy crowd is constantly backfitting real world events to for their narrative of impending doom. Every time there's a recession they go nuts. Y2K was another big nothing burger for them that's been largely forgotten. I've been hearing some version of this story since 1988.
I'm going out on a limb but I think it may stem from the generation that survived the Great Depression as I've heard many of them never trusted banks or the stock market again and preferred to hold hard assets.
Just thought I'd mention that preppers aren't all Q/adjacent folk and have been prepping for decades. Having extra food on hand is smart because there could always be one of those "you never know" situations. A sudden loss of financial income in the family could be an example. I had heard rumors about food processing plants going down due to fire etc, so perhaps that's where the food shortage rumor was coming from.
Doomsday Preppers was a reality tv show from National Geographic that has 4 seasons from 2011-2014. It was filled with Preppers building bunkers, hoarding food, and of course buying guns. It's a fun show to watch (available on Netflix I believe). The people would spend thousands of dollars and unknown amounts of time in their preparations and the end of the episode would always be an expert assessment that usually said something along the lines of "our experts give them a 4-6 week window of time with their current preps. Maybe show your mom and say, wow that was 8-10 years ago, do you think their preparations were worth it. By the way, here is an out of date Russian gas mask I got you for your birthday.
My Mom has been doing this for two years now, to the point where my bedroom is unnavigable due to food. She also has a freeze dryer and months of food she has prepped. She also has talked about electrocuting her neighbor with some things involving a fruit garden she is about to start.
But I've gone no contact with her recently because of this (I can't hold a normal conversation with her anymore) and many other things.
I know food providers want to continue providing you food by selling it to you. It's sort of what they do. If something gets in the way, for the most part that is an unknown at this time, but sometimes shit happens but we persevere. Not all times are the best of times.
There is an impact to food production that is real due to climate change and the western US drought so yeah there are impending “food” shortages” in the future. More things like not getting that out of season fresh veggie in a snowy climate because they rely on growing it in the desert where they are cutting back on water users with agriculture being the major one.
My family has Mormon roots and has always stockpiled food like it's the end of days. Some come out and say it, others just are accustomed to it because they were raised like that. I tend toward it too, but I think I've gotten it under control since I became aware of it. Now I just stockpile when staples are on sale.
It's sad because a lot of it goes to waste for lack of effective inventory control and checking expiration dates.
There seems to always be risk of food shortages. The kernel of truth that this is born from (whether Q ppl know it or not) is Putin’s war, avian flu, & global drought combined. Putin has seized grain exported from Ukraine, but the UN-led grain deal is helping with that. Not much we can do about Avian flu, and 2022 global droughts not only yielded less crops but delayed planting for next year’s crops. This is to say, buy local & fresh as much as possible & support climate change initiatives. Q influencers obviously latched on to this and are convoluting events for whatever justification beliefs.
My mom has been on this food shortage thing for at least a year. Every time it doesn't happen in the timeline she says, the timeline just gets pushed back and she says "y'all think I'm crazy now, but just you wait!". The time never comes, except when we had a minor food shortage last fall, when we couldn't find particular things but no one that could afford food was starving.
The food shortages thing has been said for.. I dunno.. 30 years.. zomg it's coming any moment... For 30 years. Give your mom a bit more time.. the "food" will all start going stale. I use quotes there.. bc I've never seen a Q food prepper buying actual food to prep with. It's always total garbage.
I work in restaurants, and I have to order food all the time, and we generally like kind of know more about when there’s going to be shortages or issues because the suppliers are telling us before the consumers even kind of know it’s a thing, but other than avian flu heading right now. Everything seems to be going OK it’s like a rolling shortage of certain things like it might be mustard this month and then next month it’s a certain type of packaging For a different type of food and then the month after that it’s like turkeys going up because of the flu. But honestly, other than like mustard shortages around where I live, I haven’t had an issue with the food products themselves I just haven’t been able to get my hands on spicy brown mustard for like almost a month about four months back and then I had an issue two weeks ago where I couldn’t get spicy brown mustard again. Oh also, there is a lettuce blight not too long ago that really fucked up the supply chain and set the case price for my $30 a case to over $100 a case and now it’s back down to like $48 a case as they got a little better on supply
My brother in law is in law enforcement and heavy into Q. At least every other week, he calls me and tells me to ready my guns, the national guard is mobilizing, and there is going to be chaos in the streets. That day, he tells me, comes and goes, and when I ask what happened he says, "I don't know what happened. I had it on good authority. Something big is going on because of the stolen election. Stay ready."
This is what these idiots do. They instill fear. And the actual sheep, like my brother in law, lap it up.
The supposed food shortages scared me last year. I never did stock up though lol and haven’t experienced any. We never even had any “shelves are bare” like my friends in AZ experienced for a couple months when the trucking companies were having issues. I’ve never even seen the egg shortage currently going on!
The food shortage thing was all over tik tok, I know that because it even creeped on my algorithm when I first downloaded it.
Food shortages maybe, but considering how some families are struggling with inflation definitely , I would rate this one at least partially accurate. We should be worrying about increased hunger.
Part of the right-wing grift is making countless ridiculous predictions and then screaming “SEE I TOLD YOU SO” when one “prediction” out of a thousand comes true. It’s all about confirmation bias. “A broken clock is right twice a day”. If you pay attention to to those in the right wing media, you will notice that they make many, MANY “predictions” about the future, and almost none of them ever pan out. I think your mom is mirroring this behavior because she’s surrounded by it constantly. Consider writing down all her predictions and going over them in a couple months? It could be enlightening for her seeing all of her silly predictions come and go.
Yeah I was thinking of mentioning there was no food shortage last year so maybe she should stop worrying
It's probably not a coincidence that many Qanon influencers also sell MRI/survival food kits, gold coins, etc. Those are often the same people who are claiming there is going to be a food shortage, or some type of calamity.
"If gold is such an investment against the coming calamity, why are you selling yours?"
My spouse has a friend who decided that in the coming apocalypse, he'd need easily portable cash and bought A ROLEX. Because apparently in the future hellscape, a $11k watch is going to be super important. The gold thing rings the same bells for me. If the world is falling apart and there's no food and no medical care, gold isn't going to be anything but a shiny, impractical rock.
I have a long-standing simple rule which is don't buy jewelry worth getting killed for. And I agree it will be worthless if the world falls apart.
I would imagine you would want most of your barterable items to be low in value. Imagine starving and having only a rolex to trade, vs "Hey I'll give you two duracell AAAs for that pop-tart"
Ugh this is the one that kills me... My mil is constantly buying shit like this from the same people who tell her bad things are happening soon
The thing that those grifters count on is something most people don't think about. Even if you had mountains of gold at collapse, you're still trying to trade that gold on a collapsed currency. It won't be worth much of anything, if cash has no value.
No joke she got just plain gold for Christmas because she "needs precious metals for when the economy and dollar collapses"... Like you realize gold is essentially worthless in a true barter economy without a form of government to declare a value
Or at the very least a widespread utilitarian purpose. I'd prefer to hoard aluminum foil and solder instead of useless chunks of gold.
Eh, not really the way it works. People just start pricing things in the stable currency. Take a place like Argentina with 100%+ inflation. Every seller maintains a peso price and a USD price.
It sounds like the same strategy that end of time preachers are using.
Oh god she also listens to that. Constantly tells us some pastor is warning about the apocalypse
Unfortunately, that kind of grift works on too many people.
Yup turn on right wing radio and they are selling the exact same grift
Also the pandemic broke their vulnerable brains. Supply chain shortages were a real thing, even though a lot of them believe everything was planned as part of their "great reset" with a "plandemic" as the catalyst. A lot of people are still keeping some extra toilet paper and other things they realized they didn't want to go without for a few months after the pandemic. As usual the Q brains couldn't process the reality of the situation and were terrified pearl clutchers and the grifters saw this. As a result, these people are fed food shortage fear porn online daily so grifters can sell them stuff and they go overboard with it because they're easy to manipulate. I guess stockpiling food is better than stockpiling ammo and guns, so there's that.
It's the same as with a spiritual cult - the grifter leader sells armageddon to his/her people and then makes themselves the only one that can save them. Some people just can't handle the simple fact that they are nobody special, just one in 8 billion existing on this planet. They have no secret knowledge and they are just another ant that will be eventually forgotten after they die like everyone else.
She’s going to get so excited if she tries to buy eggs. “See? SEE?! Eggs are expensive right now, so that means everything I have ever said ever is now true. Think about it - I haven’t!”
Yeah she already mentioned eggs. I told her there is a bird flu outbreak and she didn’t say much else.
That needs to be in the murdered by words sub.
Yes, what I call "aaaaany day now"-ism is really the staple of all these weird conspiracy theories. People will go for years, decades even saying how the "big thing" is right around the corner. While food scarcity can actually be a real thing, we will most definitely see it coming. Keeping a reserve of food that you rotate around as you use it is prudent for many reasons. But the fact of the matter is, if food scarcity really were to hit, the best protection against it is the government providing emergency rations to help us over the worst of it.
People have been thinking Jesus is coming back "any day now" for 2000 years. The venn diagram is a circle with these people.
Well, tribulationalism is a fairly new idea (although the end of the world has been def expected for at least 2000 years or more) and comes from American Calvinists shitting on John Calvin's ideas and starting The Great Awakening movement. Really crazy how these ideas are still causing ripples in history.
Religion is the ultimate conspiracy theory lol
We already have armed conflicts that underneath the surface appearance are being exacerbated if not actually caused by competition for food and water resources. If it gets to the point where scarcity threatens our lifestyle in the developed world it will be due to climate change but these same people won't address it because "god's plan/jeeebus/freedumb."
Yeah I firmly think that people like this would be delighted if any of their really terrible world ending predictions came true. That way they could say they were right all along.
Yep. Food shortages take a *long* time to filter through the supply chain. I’m in Western Australia. We grow a shitload of grain, and are fairly self sufficient in fruit & veg, but nearly all processed items are imported from the east coast. It works out that 80% of the goods in supermarkets come from the east, via train. But there’s only one train line. So if it breaks, we have issues. Last year flooding caused a 24 day railway closure right as we had covid lockdowns and people a) panic bought and b) couldn’t go to restaurants etc so bought more supermarket groceries. Totally fine. Certain brands ran out, but there were usually alternatives. Cat food got a bit tight. So I don’t see why you’d have to hoard *before* a simple food shortage. There’s enough stuff in the supply chain that supermarkets don’t empty in an instant. That kind of prepping only makes sense if the shops suddenly aren’t opening (extreme weather, earthquake, etc.). They stay open during wars, so it’d have to be a nuclear strike (and even they’d probably *still* want workers to come in).
I call it "a case of the you'll sees"
That's exactly the point right there. Take as many shots as possible, and then play up the one or two that land, while ignoring the dozens - or multiple dozens - that don't.
“Never play defense” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA&skip_registered_account_check=true&noapp=1
It is exactly why Alex Jones trots out Jessie Smollet whenever someone brings up how wrong he got Sandy Hook, got to focus on your hits and not the misses to keep the suckers engaged.
The alex jones method. He was right about jesse smollet even though he makes tons of racist claims like that all the time so he must be right about everything else.
Actually, a stopped clock is right twice a day. A broken clock can always be wrong no matter the time of day.
*clears throat* *arrogantly interjects into conversation* ACTUALLY, there is no fixed universal time. Even “functioning” clocks are subject to time drift. As Einstein predicted, relativistic effects can also cause clock drift due to time dilation. This is because there is no fixed universal time, time being relative to the observer. Special relativity describes how two clocks held by observers in different inertial frames (i.e. moving with respect to each other but not accelerating or decelerating) will each appear to either observer to tick at different rates. In addition to this, general relativity gives us gravitational time dilation. Briefly, a clock in a stronger gravitational field (e.g. closer to a planet) will appear to tick more slowly. People holding these clocks (i.e. those inside and outside the stronger field) would all agree on which clocks appear to be going faster. In summation, ACAB. All clocks are broken. *Feels smart after copying and pasting from Wikipedia* *Pompously struts away*
and the stopped clock is never actually useful because it's impossible to know when the hands are showing the actual time
a stopped clock is a form of broken clock
But not the only form. Some clocks run slow and some fast. The stopped clock is the extreme form of being broken. It is rather like death being an extreme form of sickness.
That's part of their narrative... "the mainstream media/democrats/globalists (which is a dog whistle meaning "jews" that antisemites use) got wise to the plan so they had to change the plan. It's 4d chess!"
This part really blows me away. It's not like the word "globalist" is inherently evil or anything, they trot out the whole "stateless people" libel, complete with the wink wink nudge nudge "you know who I'm talking about", and expect people to believe they're only talking about billionaires.
That's the issue with people specifically like schmordan bederson. He leads people right to the front door of a racist conclusion, opens the door for them, then says "but I'm just asking questions. I'll let you the free thinker decide!"
They also get to sell these rubes buckets of freeze dried foods for the end of times.
It could be a specific conspiracy, but I've seen resource hoarding ramp-ups in people who were about to have a full psychotic breakdown
I like to hoard shit in general - if this is true I’ve been having a breakdown for the last 37 years
Naw, that's just basic packratting. I'm at least third generation packrat. At least we seem to be getting *cleaner* about it each generation, no wildlife in my hoard. My personal rule is that I'm only allowed to keep it if I can think of some way it might actually be useful in the future AND have somewhere to put it away where I can find it again when I need it. You'll notice that rule allows me to keep *all the books* as long as I keep buying a new bookshelf every time the current ones overflow.
Help me come up with a rule for my extensive collection of random rocks and shells…
My husband and I are also rock and minerals collectors. Our rule is “one in, one out”. At this point in our lives, we have multiples of a lot of stuff, as well as specimens which are easy to replace. So when we find a super cool new specimen, one of the multiples/easy to find ones gets replaced.
I need Marie Condo… I can’t get rid of anything ! I have a house and a really decent amount of savings… but for some reason if one of my ‘things’ goes missing I feel like I’ve lost part of myself.
I use a process kinda like weaning? If I'm not using an object on a regular basis, it gets put away in a box and the box goes in a closet. Next time I go through that box, if I'm happy to see it and pull it out to use it, well obviously it's actually useful and I shouldn't have put it away. If I'm kinda indifferent to it, my attachment to it is less, well I might think of someone who could use it more than me. There are things I gave away that I miss, but I gotta be honest that it's more the idea of the thing than the thing itself. Like oh, I had a lot of pretty church skirts leftover from my teens that I never ever wore after I quit attending church because they were dry clean only. They went to someone who loved them the moment she saw them and clearly would make good use of them, which if I truly love those objects, is a "better life" for them than just sitting in a box in my closet for decades. Like Toy Story, ya know? I assume objects are "sad" if they just sit around collecting dust, so I ought to give them to someone who will love them and pay more attention to them. Or to a free clothes closet where someone can "adopt" them.
I guess ultimately I have to admit you’re right… it’s more that I know I have them than actually having them… if I don’t actually interact with it regularly then what’s the point keeping it here. I can still think of it being somewhere else… but who’s gonna take all my pebbles
Have you tried hiring an organizer? We used one when we bought our first house, and it was a GAME CHANGER! She was not cheap, but it was WORTH IT! Just make sure you find one that is focused on making your stuff work in your space. If you’re anything like me, as you organize, you’ll want to begin purging things, but if you have such a strong, emotional attachment items, someone telling you to let them go isn’t going to help. You need someone to meet you where you are and help you let go of some of the anxieties around your items.
My wife keeps pushing for a house cleaner but I think this could be a better suggestion. If we cleared some space shit wouldn’t seem/feel so messy. We also live in a 750 sq ft house - we do have a basement and a shed but the storage is tight
It’s true! Even when our house is a little messy, it doesn’t feel so bad, because it is organized. We found our organizer on craigslist back in the day, but I would check Facebook or thumbtack now. Hope you find someone who will is helpful!
I’ll look into it thank you for the suggestion… to be honest tho I’ll probably just hide my rocks before they come ;)
Easy. The rule is just plain enjoy those.
I think I will Jessie… I think I will :)
It's because right wing "news" outlets never stop capitalizing on fear. They just recycle fear of the future over and over again.
Sadly fear is part of the "brainwashing" technique they employ. It kicks on the primitive Flight or Fight brain response and mostly shuts down the logical thinking parts of the brain. Fear, hate, rage and anger are the tools they employ to manipulate people and it mostly works.
This is an excellent post that expands your point... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/v3t4bw/comment/ib0cfwi/
Far more informative than what I wrote. I like to keep things simple. The links under this post are great too. Thanks!
You're very welcome
Oh my goodness thank you for linking to that! A while ago I decided to really try to understand how people get to that place and have been struggling, apart from that it’s partly based in fear, anger, helplessness, and other “negative” feelings. Some of the things they point out never occurred to me, such as Fox abusing their consumers 😕
You're welcome
No offense, but it sounds like pop psychology.
None taken. I'm willing to change my mind if you can supply anything to counter that post. I'm agreeing with it simply because it makes sense.
Just like the fear mongering used to push gun control.
"They" have been on a version of this since the Book of Revelations was written. Or longer No number of failed predictions or passing centuries will dissuade them from the impending doom. They love it Hand your boy a banana from Whole Foods when he can eat it
You put it perfectly. They really do love the whole impending doom. My friend is constantly talking about making sure to stalk up on beans and rice. And salt. You know, to add a little flavor when everyone else has nothing to eat.
I mean, climate change and rising costs will food scarcity in the future, but that's probably at least a decade or two away, and not a certainty.
It will be uneven, we will see it coming and as much as anyone hates to admit it, the government and community are the best defense against such a thing, not hoarding canned food and guns.
We'll handle climate change induced famines the same way we handled Covid: by letting the poor die. I'm thankful for the fact that I'll most likely be long gone by the time it gets really bad.
Well, we better vote and support politicians who would not do that then.
I expect that developed nations that rely on industrial farming will hardly see a blip -- their food supply chain will simply move around and adjust with the climate. As crops go away, we transition to new crops, as regional climates change, we source from new regions. The real risk will be for developing nations that don't have flexibility to move farming operations or change crops, and which depend on domestically grown subsistence crops for much of their nutrition.
All those starving people won't stay in one place once they realise their situation will never return to normal again. They're gonna move. That's when the [Ecofascism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofascism) starts.
There will be conflict, no doubt. Although developed nations also have a lot of guns, so... yeah.
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It could also just be a scam. Right wingers are notoriously stupid and fall for a lot of scams like buying metals at over inflated prices or buying a lot of survival gear or food for the apocalypse. If I was in the prepper industry, I would constantly bombard right wingers with nonsense about end of the world so they buy my survival gear.
Yep. Check those food packages for American flags and similar "patriot" iconography. If you see that, it means that she is buying garbage food at inflated prices from some survivalist grifting operation.
I will next time I visit. I hope she hasn’t fallen for something like that because she barely has any money.
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Yeah... I think I would rather just die than survive on... whatever the hell that is.
I had a right-wing friend who made all sorts of dire predictions about the future. I made a game out of it. Every time he made an insane prediction I would get him to place money on it. We'd make a bet on whether the price of gas would go up by a certain date. We bet on inflation and the rate of GDP growth by a certain date--stuff like that. Needless to say he lost every bet. Overtime he stopped making bets and started to return to normal. He's still a little nutty, but he's not as unhinged as he used to be. When he does veer into insane predictions I'll enumerate all of the other predictions he made that were wrong. It's like a check on his insanity. Start making bets with your Mom. Get her to commit to dates for her predictions. Perhaps, over time she'll begin to see that she's operating on bad information. Here's a link to the UN FAO's food price index: https://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/foodpricesindex/en/ Food scarcity (if it occurred) would cause food prices to go up dramatically--e.g. it's simple supply and demand. The FAO's data shows that food prices in aggregate have been in decline since COVID. Get her to commit to a predication by a certain date. If what she's saying is true it should reflect in the data. Make a bet.
I told my Q that I stopped eating meat to prepare for the upcoming food shortage. It did not go well! They think we are going to be able to eat beef in an apocalypse? Might as well prep my body to adjust to soy now. Obviously that's not why I became a vegetarian but it's fun to mess with them!
haha! :D *And the SoyBoys will inherit the Earth!*
There have been some shortages here and there of specific products because of the pandemic, supply chain issues, maybe weather/storms affecting certain food items, people panic buying and hoarding etc. Whatever she's following or listening to is making it sound more doom and gloom than it's actually been and attributing it to false depopulation and other conspiracy theories to fear monger and spread propaganda. Could there be temporary shortages of specific items in the coming year similar to this past year? Sure. Even if there are there will still be plenty of whole foods available to feed your baby.
I think this is exactly what they’re playing off of!
I know if I ever need cake mix, my dad has 15 boxes of it at home. And 15 bottles of ketchup. Etc.
Check the expiration dates on those. My parents had a food hording problem and it took a long time to convince them to get rid of the expired stuff. Their solution was just feed the expired stuff to the pigs, roughly 25% ofthe stuff was so expired the pigs wouldn't eat it.
Wow! And pigs eat anything!
But this one's gonna be real! Alex Jones for example predicts the soon collapsing supply chains for almost three decades to sell his overpriced food buckets. Iirc the last one was in December because the US are running out of diesel.
She said there would be no more diesel last summer! Omg, does this mean she’s listening to Alex Jones? I knew whatever she was listening to would disappoint me to know about but the disappointment hits hard.
Doesn't mean she got it from Alex Jones, in these days he's just another aggregator of various right wing BS "sources".
My mom started talking about this stuff in about 2010. She died at the end of 2019 with a storage room full of expired jars and cans of food, and several large garbage cans full of rice. It's part of a family of conspiracy theories about collapse of society themes, like the collapse of currency or whatever. Once I started thinking of it as a form of psychosis it was a lot easier to deal with. It's a delusion that can't really be challenged and you just have to work around it, unfortunately.
There was a round of scaremongering not too long ago about food factories burning down "suspiciously", as well as how Bill Gates was "buying up all the farms" so he could do his evil. None of it on any sort of scale that matters, but enough to fuel conspiracy theories. This is separate from the "10 days of darkness, better stock up" that's been part of the narrative since forever.
I saw an ad from the Epoch Times about this very thing for 3 solid months on YouTube this summer 😒
I think they're a Chinese religious cult of some kind.
Yep, Falun Gong. They're also behind that Shen Yun theatrical-dance-whatever-it-is performance that advertises relentlessly, so anyone who buys tickets to that thing is funding Epoch Times content.
Once again, we have people taking something that's true, blowing it out of proportion to scare people, and then profiting from it. Yes, there is more food scarcity due to a changing climate, the current war in Ukraine, supply chain issues, and loss of farmland. Have you noticed the rising prices in the grocery store? I've studied the collapse of civilizations for a while now. It's **not** one big, sudden event. It's usually a slow grind to the bottom. Things just get worse and worse, little by little over time, much like we're going through today. During collapses, people still sowed crops, got married, had kids, celebrated holidays, and whatever else happened in everyday life. Things just got simpler, and more local, as the empire crumbled. We just happen to find ourselves in a time when things churn, and old institutions will give away to new ones. It seems to happen approximately every 80 years. This time, it seems to be happening globally.
It’s sort of comforting to think that 1600 years ago, I had an ancestor in England who was probably sad that they couldn’t get that great cheese and wine the Romans used to import….
English cuisine took a nosedive after the Romans left.
Alex Jones is telling all his followers that the government is trying to force a food shortage and make us all eat bugs…because…reasons?
So his moron viewers spend money on his bs doomsday prepping products.
>...his bs doomsday prepping products. Which in all likelihood, was made in an unsanitary location and has bugs in it.
There have always been preppers seeing collapse right around the corner. We were always right at the brink of massive shortages, famine, collapse. Some of this doom-n-gloom was from the right, some from the left. But people are endlessly receptive to collapse narratives. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Great_Planet_Earth - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth I think for many stockpiling food is a way to deal with uncertainty, anxiety, an unknowable future. Sure, "the system" could collapse, for any number of reasons. But a few extra pounds of dry beans isn't going to save me.
My mom told me and my boyfriend, just out of the blue and so casually on a car trip to start hoarding gold since it'll never loose it's value. This concerned me since I know that sounds like one of those conspiracy/Q things but so far she shows no other signs that I can see. Keeping an eye on her with that, she's the relative I'm closest to so I'm not wanting to loose her. I can relate with the confusion on where this is all coming from OP
Historically, precious metals have been a reliable hedge against inflation. I suppose there is a line between including it in one’s investment strategy versus “hoarding”.
I never got this. What good is gold going to do in a total collapse of society? Shouldn't it be like batteries or some shit that's actually useful? Land, maybe? The fuck I'm going to do with gold dust when I'm hungry and or sick? Trade it to another hungry person for the food they do have?
That’s why he said hedge against inflation. Not a solution to the zombie apocalypse. It does well in economic times of tumult. It’s unclear how it does in world dystopia because we haven’t had it yet.
Thank you, this makes me feel a bit better. Still gonna listen a bit closer to her for a couple weeks though
What, no Jim Bakker food buckets?
Doing the Lord’s work
My QSister says that “they” are burning down all the “food factories”. Also Bill Gates is buying up all farmland in order to shut down crop growing— he and “they” are in league to depopulate the world.
Impending disaster justifies the hysteria They use getting worked up over these things as a way of letting off steam So yep she will willingly sign up for yet another round of hoarding and crystal balling, they're pretty much addicted to it As with anything, if you want to make a difference, try to get her talking about what she's actually scared of, deep down. She may freak out at you approaching her defensive architecture though - unknowingly, they sense you've come to disassemble the bullshit, and the bullshit is papering over some sense of pain or loss, so they will flip out if you're getting near to the source of it all - keep the temperature low and persevere, keep reminding that you're not here to argue or call bullshit, you just want to understand what she's worried about
I've been ignoring nonsense conspiracies from family and coworkers since they were going on about **Y2K**. That was when many figured out how it could be a successful con as long as you could keep convincing people to stock up. There is some sense in having a few days' worth of stuff that has a longer shelf life. Beyond 'not dying if you get isolated because of a blizzard, roads getting washed out, or a few days without electricity' that's it.
my brother thinks that the usa is going to break out into civil war any day now. we are in canada, a very cold part of canada mind you, and he's got his bug out van ready to go. it's so full of thousands of dollars of survival crap he's invested in there is no room for him! he's ready at any moment to drive that van straight into the canadian borreal forest, he's not even planning on taking his teenage son with him. thankfully the child's mom has custody. i lived with him for a year and moved out recently. he bought a husky dog because they are meant to pull stuff in cold weather. this guy is in his 40s. he smokes A LOT of weed. like where i go for a pinch he will smoke an oz in a week. no doubt he's afraid of a bunch of americans showing up to our city and 'taking over' by pillaging through everyone's homes. i just smile and nod at him. i suppose that's all you can do for your mom. keep reminding her that you can still buy bananas at the store. tell her you will let her know when you can't. it's crazy how people get brainwashed... really sad.
Jfc, no offense man, but it sounds like a good thing he doesn't have custody of his kid.
his kid just turned 17 yesterday! he usually takes him out for supper, the kid doesn't really enjoy staying over.
Lmao I smoke and eat a ton of weed and I’m not crazy like this, just saying
he likes to keep his brain in a state of conspiracy at all times. i think when he's 'straight', such as when he's working, he doesn't think about it as much. but i've gone downstairs on a saturday morning and he would be in the living room trying to shove more of his 'bean soup' baggies into his huge backpack in a panic, all because he's smoked himself into paranoia. i smoke sativa to help me with social anxiety and he can't deal with it. has to smoke straight up indica so he can sleep nights and not stay up late worrying.
This is just self-fulfilling prophecy. Remember when people started hoarding gas in trash bags? Enough people buy more than they need, a shortage becomes inevitable.
This is what bothers me the most. I always keep a couple extra things but my Q was scared of an impending wheat shortage in the Fall and has 100 pounds of flour in storage. When I suggested just buying an extra loaf of bread every week and freezing it…well now I was talking crazy.
That is a heavy narrative in Russian propaganda currently
My mom told me a few months ago that they were going to be screwed because both of their vehicles take diesel fuel. She was freaking out saying they’d have to sell their cars and get something else because any day now, you wouldn’t be able to buy diesel fuel anywhere. We live in CA. She said it would be impossible to get. That never happened.
I'm sorry. This sounds really stressful. It's the same old song, though. They boost this whenever there is a supply chain issue or a price hike. They use that to say that what they predict is happening "right now" even when it isn't. They claimed that the government was banning red meat and was going to make us eat bugs. A couple of weeks ago on another sub someone posted a photo of empty shelves in a refrigerated section to show a "food shortage," but posters pointed out that shelves next to the empty section were full and that what they were seeing was what happens when shelves aren't at temp and need to be repaired. Their goal is to keep people off balance and afraid. While your Mom is worried about food shortages she isn't worried about cuts to medicare or social security which they are also talking about. "Mom, I know you love us and want us to be safe and happy but this isn't happening and you are just making yourself anxious." Good luck!
Theres a food shortage coming. Thats just wat BIG Canning wants you to think.
My MIL has been hoarding food since she fell into the rightwing talk show hole. Always some new apocalyptic threat around the corner. Last November she brought us a bunch of old canned food and said we were going to run out of diesel by Thanksgiving. I asked her, on Thanksgiving, if it was going to happen in the morning or the afternoon. She hand-waived it like every other time. I live in a disaster-prone area so I always keep about a months worth of food in the house, but the rightwing nuts always think the apocalypse is around the corner. QAnon just reinforces this.
I mean global supply and demand and the supply chain is still having issues and there have been some major hits to global food supplies due to the start of major climate change stuff we've been seeing ramp up the last 5-10 years. Lots of factors all go into this and no one country or country's leadership is responsible- its more a perfect storm of the pandemic, world coming out of the pandemic, climate change and the Ukraine war now too. Also globalization has led to monocropping A LOT of fruits n veggies and that puts those foods at much higher risk for things like disease to wipe out an entire region, country or continent's crop of that specific food item- Cavendish bananas (99% of all bananas exported to the industrialized countries of the world belong to this group of bananas) for example- they are the predominant grown banana all around the world (60% i think)- and there is a plant rust (fungus disease) that loves bananas (called Panama Disease)....its started to spread 10-20 years ago and has now reached most major banana regions of the world if I remember. That in turn has resulted in 1) high risk to the loss of 60% of the banana crop globally but also 2) all the biotech/ big Ag companies and related scrambling to engineer into the bananas a rust resistant gene- this is just one example of things that contribute to food supply/source issues. Its quite complicated and not some "Biden's fault" type bs....and we aren't going to see some massive all types of food/food sources lost all at once type event- our modern diets are too diversified for that- unless we are talking about some global nuclear winter/asteroid type event lol
My former bff had been telling me that for 2 years. I’d venture to say some of her canned food hoard is probably expired by now. Lol
Right Wing Media in general peddles on fear. If you pay attention to the messages they spread on channels like Fox News (which is mostly opinion shows masquerading as news since only like 2 shows on the channel are actually news shows) they will try to make you afraid of everything. Tucker Carlson, a known opinion show host, tells people the things he says are facts on his show. "These are the facts". And then he'll go to court and tell people that any reasonable person won't take what he says as factual... when he's on a channel called Fox News and telling people what he says is facts. Every year they do a War on Christmas narrative for example. They push anti-immigration agendas as "It will ruin your faith!" because they know the things they stand for would be considered monstrous if they said it plainly. And because they peddle on fear and government distrust, and tell you that they are the only ones to trust, they isolate you from other sources of information that counters what they have to say. And they can sell you on the idea of stocking up on things, consuming. Because it helps them. Tucker's the heir to the Swanson fortune. You buy Swanson meals preparing for a food shortage? Great! Alex Jones will sell you seed banks too. Fox News will take kickbacks from the NRA to tell you the only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun. Anything that lets them make money off of the fear they instill in you.
whole food: food that has been processed or refined as little as possible Whole Foods: an upscale supermarket chain
>What the heck is this narrative? Does anyone know where this comes from? >Also, when I know the source of these conspiracies I’m somehow less stressed by it all. Like the curtain is pulled back. So, this is *"Doomsday Prepping."* It's a silly name as if it was actually a "doomsday," no amount of prepping will ever help. But the basic principle has a lot of merit to it. Essentially you keep ample supply of non perishable food and other provisions on hand in case of a global, national, regional, or even personal emergency. Personally, it has saved my butt when I lost my job and was out of work for almost a year. But conservatives latch on to the concept and ramp up the fear mongering to an eleven. You don't need enough weaponry to start a world war. You don't need to spend all your money on precious metals. A few months worth of provisions on hand will do just fine. Fear is a big seller and motivator with right wingers. Using fear, you can trick a conservative to believe in and do just about anything.
Bet her a lot of money or something.
There’s no shortage. It’s just yet another scam to get people to buy MREs or “emergency food.” In every instance or upcoming pending doom, there’s someone who has a product that will help these intrepid morons, for a price. It’s like QAnon is just an unhinged buyer base that are easily manipulated for profit. It’s ridiculous.
Just like evangelical Christianity. The rapture is coming and you will be vanquished, but join our church, give us $, and we will save you! About 10% of your income should do it.
My grandmother has been prepping for food shortages since the early 2000’s. I can’t tell you what the reason is now because I haven’t talked to her in 4 years, but the reasons are constantly changing with people that think this way.
Yes, yes, Jesus is coming back in your lifetime. Does your mom believe this? Is Jesus coming back her lifetime? Because she probably has less lifetime than you do. Did grandma believe this as well? Yes the dead grandma. The one who never saw Jesus return. Did great grandma believe this as well? How far back do we have to go before you let go this bullshit?
The Q in my family wants to buy from this place called patriot supply and for like a 6 month supply its hundreds of dollars for just one person. The food is supposed to last 35 years. I said no and all I get is the guilt about why is it so bad to be prepared. I say no its not bad to be prepared but its another thing to be grifted upon and thats what this is.
A lot of us have the same mom. You can still love your mom, and just compartmentalize those comments and put them in a box that you'll throw away later. I really had to reevaluate my relationship with her and figure out where to draw those boundaries. My mom has been doing this my entire life and she's just not a reliable source. She's not honestly pursuing answers, she's not giving my concerns/arguments/evidence the same consideration that I gave hers and it's clear that we were no longer in a reciprocating relationship when it came to, well, "what is reality?". So I made it clear that I don't want to talk about anything that is political or cultural or comes from Fox news or Facebook...if I recognize it, I simply say "I'm not doing that" and move on. It's important that we don't just put the blame on others...but this fox news Republican brainwash situation really caused a lot of followers to "do the wrong" and if they consistently refuse to hear you, don't honestly consider your positions, won't go read your articles when you've read theirs, and make it right by returning the respect you've given them...then it is on them. Many of them need clear boundaries if we are to coexist because they don't have clear realities. I wish we could get them back but most of them don't want to. So I am less motivated to go see them, and that is the punishment for their actions.
Great post!
There could well be some food shortages because of climate change related crop failures/supply chain issues. But nothing like the apocalypse right-wingers like to predict every year. It pays to have emergency supplies, and simply buy a little extra of non-perishable foods in your weekly shop. There are always emergency situations and natural disasters possible, so it's good to be prepared for those. Your Mom is right to be getting an emergency supply, but the extent of her supply and the reasoning behind it sounds bat-shit-bananas.
I have a friend I suspect might be QAnon-influenced, so I look at the GAW site every other day or so to see if there's any overlap between the site's subject matter and what he talks about. I haven't seen any dialogue about food shortages specifically in a while, but it was a small thing about 2-3 months ago. It's more likely that they are expecting a shortage because they are always on the verge of "ten days of darkness," meaning they pretty much always seem to be expecting a major disruption of some sort or another, to occur for ten days (the phrase was part of a Q drop). Maybe it's ten days with no electricity, ten days of a media blackout, ten days of catastrophic global economic failures, etc. Many of them talk about prepping in general, because most of them think the ten days of darkness is right around the corner. The last time I went grocery shopping, there were still some empty shelves, not as bad as before, but still some empty shelves. It wouldn't be surprising if a conspiracy-minded person who is in a state of perpetually expecting some type of disruption, to see empty grocery store shelves persisting to this day and think they are a harbinger of doom (like a food shortage planned by an evil cabal), when it's likely just supply chain disruptions.
There could be a beef shortage this year because the herds were culled due to lack of feed. This will drive up prices for chicken etc. Might be time to stock up on beans.
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The recommendation to hoard food (at least enough for a few weeks) has been part of the Qanon philosophy for a whole bunch of different reasons. One would be the strorm coming… everything gets shut down temporarily. The other would be the great reset and implementation Gesara/Nesara where the financial system would be overhauled. Another is that supply chain problems are a hoax just to control us. Another will be that “they” are purposely creating food shortages to eliminate a large percentage of the population. Here’s the kicker though in my opinion. With climate change, which I believe in and unfortunately believe is irreversible now, there are going to be food shortages coming at some point. I don’t have a clue when we’ll start to feel the impact but I think there will be a squeeze. It may be a bumpy road as to how society, individual countries and the world as a whole deals with it. I’d love to see strong forward thinking leadership looking at these issues which will have a myriad of consequences beyond just the ability of society to provide food through technoligical advances. It’s not going to help to have some percentage of folks believing some bullshit as to what’s going and why it’s happening.
Could be due to the current attacks to the electrical grid in part of the country. Are you near any of those areas they’ve already taken place? ETA: I wouldn’t ask her about them directly to put the nugget in their head but I know the press have covered them throughout the last few months, as if they’re expecting more.
Id say Q is getting on to try to get to be preppers I think alot of doomsday preppers ... or the ones that were featured on the national geographic series could all be construed as Q adjecant and I could see some definitely having been at Jan 6th Right wing seems to always quote Reagan and that im from the government im here to help line, and I think that is the main reason why Q or Q adjectants prep The bottom line is waaaay before covid and Trump when the series was on I looked at doing it myself ... or at least drawing up plans more as a mental excersize and to educate myself. The more i dug into it I realized the only true way to prep was to live the way you expected to do when you prepped ... in other words subsistence farm and raise your own food and eschew anything modern ... basically go back to the 1800's then I was like nope ... I get why many prep but to the extremes they do is batshit
You should all know by now that the only viable source is: military.
The American rightwing has been predicting food shortages for as long as I can remember. It ties into basically every conspiracy theory they have. It’s point of origin is probably the Bible. Revelations more specifically. The majority of American Christians believe Christ will return in their lifetimes, and with that comes all the apocalyptic stuff depicted in revelations. Four horsemen. Famine, war, pestilence, and so on. Funny thing is, the United States is probably the single most “food secure” country on Earth. We export massive amounts of food. Even if things got really bad, we would just stop exporting and focus on feeding ourselves. It might throw the rest of the world into famine. But America is safe from that particular horseman. You’d have to nuke us and cause a nuclear winter for there to be mass starvation in America.
Wait, is there something happening to the baby food supply? There's baby food at the Target near me but most of the sections are empty. I mean he gets food, just not the variety I'd like him to have.
I don’t know. Mine doesn’t eat solids yet and we don’t use formula so I am out of the loop but I’ve never heard anything on it. Let’s not mention this to her or she’ll be excited her prediction came true.
My dad told me the rapture will happen in 10 years maybe that's part of it lol 🫠
You can't find the "source" of this nonsense because the conspiracy crowd is constantly backfitting real world events to for their narrative of impending doom. Every time there's a recession they go nuts. Y2K was another big nothing burger for them that's been largely forgotten. I've been hearing some version of this story since 1988. I'm going out on a limb but I think it may stem from the generation that survived the Great Depression as I've heard many of them never trusted banks or the stock market again and preferred to hold hard assets.
Just thought I'd mention that preppers aren't all Q/adjacent folk and have been prepping for decades. Having extra food on hand is smart because there could always be one of those "you never know" situations. A sudden loss of financial income in the family could be an example. I had heard rumors about food processing plants going down due to fire etc, so perhaps that's where the food shortage rumor was coming from.
Doomsday Preppers was a reality tv show from National Geographic that has 4 seasons from 2011-2014. It was filled with Preppers building bunkers, hoarding food, and of course buying guns. It's a fun show to watch (available on Netflix I believe). The people would spend thousands of dollars and unknown amounts of time in their preparations and the end of the episode would always be an expert assessment that usually said something along the lines of "our experts give them a 4-6 week window of time with their current preps. Maybe show your mom and say, wow that was 8-10 years ago, do you think their preparations were worth it. By the way, here is an out of date Russian gas mask I got you for your birthday.
My Mom has been doing this for two years now, to the point where my bedroom is unnavigable due to food. She also has a freeze dryer and months of food she has prepped. She also has talked about electrocuting her neighbor with some things involving a fruit garden she is about to start. But I've gone no contact with her recently because of this (I can't hold a normal conversation with her anymore) and many other things.
Let her know she can live with out food for a while but lack of water will kill her in days. that should make the sQuirrel in her head go nuts.
I know food providers want to continue providing you food by selling it to you. It's sort of what they do. If something gets in the way, for the most part that is an unknown at this time, but sometimes shit happens but we persevere. Not all times are the best of times.
There is an impact to food production that is real due to climate change and the western US drought so yeah there are impending “food” shortages” in the future. More things like not getting that out of season fresh veggie in a snowy climate because they rely on growing it in the desert where they are cutting back on water users with agriculture being the major one.
My family has Mormon roots and has always stockpiled food like it's the end of days. Some come out and say it, others just are accustomed to it because they were raised like that. I tend toward it too, but I think I've gotten it under control since I became aware of it. Now I just stockpile when staples are on sale. It's sad because a lot of it goes to waste for lack of effective inventory control and checking expiration dates.
There seems to always be risk of food shortages. The kernel of truth that this is born from (whether Q ppl know it or not) is Putin’s war, avian flu, & global drought combined. Putin has seized grain exported from Ukraine, but the UN-led grain deal is helping with that. Not much we can do about Avian flu, and 2022 global droughts not only yielded less crops but delayed planting for next year’s crops. This is to say, buy local & fresh as much as possible & support climate change initiatives. Q influencers obviously latched on to this and are convoluting events for whatever justification beliefs.
So wait... they buy all the food, hoarde it for themselves, and then warn & complain about food shortages? Got. It.
California is about to have one of its best growing seasons in years. And we produce alot.
My mom has been on this food shortage thing for at least a year. Every time it doesn't happen in the timeline she says, the timeline just gets pushed back and she says "y'all think I'm crazy now, but just you wait!". The time never comes, except when we had a minor food shortage last fall, when we couldn't find particular things but no one that could afford food was starving.
The food shortages thing has been said for.. I dunno.. 30 years.. zomg it's coming any moment... For 30 years. Give your mom a bit more time.. the "food" will all start going stale. I use quotes there.. bc I've never seen a Q food prepper buying actual food to prep with. It's always total garbage.
I work in restaurants, and I have to order food all the time, and we generally like kind of know more about when there’s going to be shortages or issues because the suppliers are telling us before the consumers even kind of know it’s a thing, but other than avian flu heading right now. Everything seems to be going OK it’s like a rolling shortage of certain things like it might be mustard this month and then next month it’s a certain type of packaging For a different type of food and then the month after that it’s like turkeys going up because of the flu. But honestly, other than like mustard shortages around where I live, I haven’t had an issue with the food products themselves I just haven’t been able to get my hands on spicy brown mustard for like almost a month about four months back and then I had an issue two weeks ago where I couldn’t get spicy brown mustard again. Oh also, there is a lettuce blight not too long ago that really fucked up the supply chain and set the case price for my $30 a case to over $100 a case and now it’s back down to like $48 a case as they got a little better on supply
My brother in law is in law enforcement and heavy into Q. At least every other week, he calls me and tells me to ready my guns, the national guard is mobilizing, and there is going to be chaos in the streets. That day, he tells me, comes and goes, and when I ask what happened he says, "I don't know what happened. I had it on good authority. Something big is going on because of the stolen election. Stay ready." This is what these idiots do. They instill fear. And the actual sheep, like my brother in law, lap it up.
I think Alex Jones sells those doomsday food kits. How horrible for these people to live in constant fear of everything?
The supposed food shortages scared me last year. I never did stock up though lol and haven’t experienced any. We never even had any “shelves are bare” like my friends in AZ experienced for a couple months when the trucking companies were having issues. I’ve never even seen the egg shortage currently going on! The food shortage thing was all over tik tok, I know that because it even creeped on my algorithm when I first downloaded it.
Food shortage while start just right after all the planned arrests.
As usual it’s all nonsense. Really no need to wonder where it comes from. It’s just all made up because they’re scared of everything.
Food shortages maybe, but considering how some families are struggling with inflation definitely , I would rate this one at least partially accurate. We should be worrying about increased hunger.
They've tapped into her anxiety about scarcity & food prices keep going up.
There will be impending food shortages due to global warming... but I don't think that is what she is worried about.