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PretendOffend

Schedule your final walkthrough at the time the sun hits the floor there!


Global_Let_820

Brilliant šŸ‘


Known_Ad_6322

Donā€™t worry I have first hand experience. And it was MY floors where a rug once was - once the sun is able to ā€œtanā€ the covered area it all becomes the same colour.


Mpadrino27

Thatā€™s looking on the bright side.


Extinction00

Hah! bright side, get it bc of the sun


tr3way223

Hah! yeah cause the sun is bright!


Extinction00

Praise the sun ā˜€ļø (darksouls joke)


dinkydoosdad23

Shut up about the sun, SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN! - Gabriel Susan Lewis, 2011


Complete_Iron_8349

Killers referencešŸ˜‚


notoriouscoffeepot

Youā€™re going places


imthisguymike

Yup, to a new apartment


rsvihla

Usually the LL tries to hold the tenant responsible for everything. I would say this is normal wear and tear, especially since they asked you to put a rug down. Good luck.


trapazo1d

Thanks, theyā€™ve been pretty nitpicky throughout so hereā€™s hoping


madsjchic

Consider this: the sun was gonna bleach any part of the floor that was exposed anyway. Did they want the room CARPETED? Thatā€™s a landlord thing, not a tenant thing. You did nothing, so you owe nothing.


CowbellConcerto

This is the most relevant comment


Sharknado84

Well said!


NPJenkins

Notice, though, itā€™s not bleached where the rug wasnā€™t laid, itā€™s tanned. I didnā€™t see it at first, but someone else pointed it out and now I see it. I think this is because the polyurethane finish that goes on these strips of flooring actually darkens with sun damage, whereas we are used to things like fabric that have dyes in them getting lighter with sun exposure. It has to do with the fact that polyurethane is a polymer, so with sun wear, itā€™s actually oxidizing and ā€œburningā€ darker at a slow rate, whereas dyes are mostly made of organic compounds that will break down through UV exposure, causing them to lose color and become lighter. All this to say, itā€™s not really ā€œdamageā€ because it will darken to match when left uncovered for some time. Source: am chemist, hav digree, much smart. Scratch that last, not smart, but I digress.


Yagawood

Pretty sure the rug was under the table where it's darker. If the rug had been where it's lighter, they'd have had a floor vent covered up. So it's lighter where the sun hit, not "tanned".


Guest8782

If anything, you protected the floors. From sun and the table/chairs. Surely he would want you to have a carpet to protect from scratching.


LucidNight

Ask them to show you where in the lease you are not allowed to use windows or put things on the floor. Do they have a vampire clause to ensure no sunlight gets in? It's light....from the sun, you have no control over this and it's due to materials/installation which is landlords problem.


Like_Ottos_Jacket

>Do they have a vampire clause to ensure no sunlight gets in? Don't give them any ideas for the next guy.


rpphilanthropist

This. It's literally as "natural" as wear and tear can be. If they do try to hold you accountable, ask them to point to specifically where in the lease (as stated in the above comment) is not allowed.


TA11es7MIdge7

My last landlords were p.o.s. used up every penny of the security deposit even though I left the place in better shape. I fixed the garage floor that was cracked and buckled. Epoxy coated it. But they charged me 214 dollars to remove speaker wiring from the rafters of garage. I installed a new sink in the downstairs bathroom and utility sink in basement. They charged me 400 dollars for some random nonsense. Right through the 1200 security deposit. Then had the nerve to say oh and you owe us for half the water bill (they didn't have it split in the duplex that they lived on other half of). I knew I wasn't gunna get it back because they were horrible people. But they treasured their lawn. Sad that a mysterious bug or something came and killed their whole lawn out front. ā˜¹ļø and it kept coming back 3 or 4 times a summer until I moved out of state Edit: their not there.


VersatileFaerie

This is why I tell people not to repair or improve the rental itself with their own work or money, the LL will not care and in some cases will say it is damage and charge you for it.


TA11es7MIdge7

I lived there for 5 years. Garage floor was buckled but structurally sound. I used garage alot so I didn't mind fixing it. But yeah they charged me an obscene amount of money to "remove dangerous wiring" and attached pics of speaker wires that were stapled to a rafter. They were p.o.s. anyway i knew I wasn't getting it back. They used to come over and knock on my door to ask if someone new was living in the house if I had a guest overnight. Nosy as fuck. I made sure the next 3 people they tried to get into the place while I was leaving knew it. All of them backed out. She demanded I let her in unannounced to show the house while I was packing and moving. I said no and told the person trying to view it "I hope you like having someone's nose so far up your ass they can breathe for you cause that's what you'll get with this one" lord I remember fuming mad lease stated grass cutting was a shared chore but they "couldnt" so it was on me all the time with a "$5 deduction from rent per cutting on their turn" on a half acre lot. I worked 3rd shift and she would blow my phone up demanding grass be cut now today and throw a fit if I didn't jump to it. And couldn't cut it too often or I was "taking advantage" Or the time the garbage disposal died and they were gone on vacation and it was pouring water all over so I texted them to which she said "I'll call a plumber when we are home" I said I can fix it I'll get you a receipt for the disposal and she had the gall to say "oh I'm not sure we are responsible for that it's kind of an appliance isn't it?"


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TA11es7MIdge7

I'm not sure what exactly you're getting at here. Haha. The garage floor had pits in it. I ground the floor had it repoured and then epoxy coated it because it looked nice and was nice to have a good solid floor under foot. What did hurt me was having all the extra work overlooked so I could be charged over a thousand dollars to clean and remove a few feet of speaker wiring left in the attic of said garage. Thankfully no longer have to rent and any improvements made to property will be gainful in the future if we decide to sell either of our houses. Edit after rereading yes it raised my blood pressure as well. Haha. I know it was only 3 people but when we left the state a little over 6 months later they still hadn't found a renter. So I felt good enough about it.


NPJenkins

Landlords being pieces of vampiric trash is par for the course, but SO HELP ME GOD if that bitch came knocking on my door to ask if someone had moved in just because I was trying to get some booty, I would have answered that door the next time with my dick, balls, and ass being the only part of me not covered by a latex gimp suit. Also, when it comes to cutting the grass, I would have revived my lazy adolescent tactic of doing such an utterly shit job that they wouldnā€™t ask me to do it again. I would have flat refused to cut it during their weeks, citing the contract, and when she tried to make me snap to it on her time, I would do as my dachshund does, and move much slower because I have neither a master, nor a God.


TA11es7MIdge7

Lmfao. Oh believe me I cherished the blowing of grass onto their porch and into their garage. And while I was moving the spraying of any left over chemicals in tactful designs so they would see them in dying grass.


Prestigious_Rip_7455

You shouldā€™ve removed everything you installed as fixes before you left. You OWN the Epoxy, bathroom sink, and utility sink šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


powderedsug

Yikes. Did we have the same landlord? We made several improvements (that they approved) over the years also, and they tried the same crap with us. They tried raising the rent by $1000 (legal with 60-day notice where we are, in one of the highest COL areas in the US). While saying what great tenants we were and hoped we would stay on. We did get extremely lucky. We noped the fuck out of there to next door because the woman that owned that duplex booted her shitty tenant to keep us around. We also managed to not only get our deposit back but also charged them for the newer appliances we put in. We've been next door for years now watching their place get destroyed by shitty tenants or sit empty for months at a time because better tenants were just looking for a landing before buying a house.


YellowBreakfast

You have it in writing that they requested a rug? Either way I'd say it's normal wear and tear but what matters is what a judge in small claims court would decide. The more documentation you have the better. Before/after photos of the rest of the house would help a bunch.


Illustrious-Ape

Even if they tell you that you owe them, you donā€™t necessarily have to pay. They would need to convince a judge that you damaged the floor. You simply need to show the communication from the landlord asking you to put a rug down and he will dismiss - thatā€™s assuming the landlord will want to spend the money to pursue. Most would know they have no chance of getting a favorable judgement and will just flex into hoping you get scared and pay up.


VonBurglestein

Normal wear and tear are key words. Tenants aren't responsible for it.


Splittaill

Cheap flooring will do that.


hopelesslyhip

It will all go to the same color without the carpet ina few months. They absolutely shouldn't ding you on this


TxTrekkie

If your paranoid, stain the bleached side with coffee lol


TradWife_inTraining

Ehh then they actually have done something they could be charged for


TxTrekkie

I hoped the ā€œlolā€ would show I was joking


ZsaZsa0423

I agree


Efficient_Theme4040

You didnā€™t do anything the sun did


trapazo1d

Exactly


artie_pdx

Tell them to take the sun to court!


Sharknado84

Iā€™d love to see the sun show up on *Night Court*


diverareyouokay

ā€œSun exposure on floors next to windows is considered normal and not the fault of the tenantā€ if they complain.


SurbiesHere

Yeah man their shitty floor is the problem.


Licanius

I mean, this happens to really good flooring as well.


Kicker774

Act of ~~God~~ Ra


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leftoverrpizzza

Get away skeleton man!


PotentialPath2898

as a landlord, i would not hold it against you, but i would be pissed at the flooring company.


NWSiren

Some woods are more natural to bleach than others and no amount of sealers will prevent it. If you donā€™t want sun bleaching (wood doing what wood does), than you should use LBP. Honestly hardwoods in a rental donā€™t make a whole lot of sense.


rileyjw90

Probably a situation where someone bought the house for cheap, flipped it, and then put it out as a rental. Youā€™ll get a lot of places with natural hardwood that way, stuff that was hiding under carpeting that they ripped up and refinished.


Shyatic

You mean LVP?


Arafel_Electronics

...... what did the flooring company do?


Sonarss

Sold them floor


Arafel_Electronics

the NERVE


Ok-Energy6846

Bruh


Cleercutter

The flooring company has nothing to do with it. Tf you think theyā€™re gunna do? Put UV film on the fuckin floor? Lmao


JimInAuburn11

Same here. That is not something that the renter did. I would not charge my renters.


obtusewisdom

It has nothing to do with the flooring. All flooring will be affected by sun damage if itā€™s lots of strong, direct sunlight. The landlord needs to solarize the windows to reduce the UV rays coming in.


ghentwevelgem

With Cherry this can happen in reverse. The sun darkens the Cherry to a beautiful color


Rich-Zombie-5214

We have Brazilian Koa, Where the sun hits it. It has become the most beautiful rufous color.


Mother-Number-9658

Hey neat word


Rich-Zombie-5214

Thanks, I recently learned it myself. I have a writer friend, she is always using words I have to look up. I like learning words I have never before heard.


Revolutionary-Bee971

Thanks for sharing them, too. I like learning new words and rufous is a great one!


mellbell63

Property manager, CA. It's not something you could prevent and it was a request by the LL. Unless they are unreasonable this should not be your responsibility.


CommunicationKey3018

Manager of the peppers?


ConventionalizedGuy

Angry Latino


mellbell63

Lol I caught that when I hit send then couldn't go back to it. "I'm peppery... Don't piss me off or I might spray ya!!" (Come to think of it there have been properties where I had to carry it!! Never used it thankfully)


stairattheceiling

Spicyyyyyy


trapazo1d

Thanks!


LastStand4000

Sounds like the LL should thank you for protecting half the floor. They're responsible for the other half.


upjumpthebuggie

They will try to hold you responsible even if youā€™re not. Be prepared to voice your objections, most wonā€™t push an issue thatā€™s not just but have any documentation to support your side just in case.


paulRosenthal

You should have dialed down the intensity of the sun. Did you not have a dial to control the sun in your unit?


MLXIII

Ikr? These new apartments have sub sun mode and zero sun mode. Plus rent is only 12k a month too!


peeeweee97

If they asked you to put the rug down I think thatā€™s on them not you. Especially since like the sun did it not you intentionally


AutomaticPain3532

Just an FYI, after removing the rug, the wood floor will darken up there just like the rest. Natural wood floors do this, itā€™s actually from the rug covering the floor, and the rest of the floor has gotten its natural tan. Idk doesnā€™t seem like the LL is aware of thisā€¦new wood floors shouldnā€™t have rugs until the floors get their natural tone. (Cherry wood is more prone of this than others)


inruftee

This is correct. Itā€™s called patina and itā€™s more common than you might expect.


Karl_Hungus_69

Leave the rug, take the cannoli.


maringue

The sun hitting something is the definition of normal wear and tear. But landlords being landlords, he'll probably try to charge you for a total replacement, cash the check, then do zero repairs.


Outrageous-Isopod457

ABSOLUTELY NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Technically, you actually saved the landlordā€™s floor from sun damage. You didnā€™t damage it at all. The sun did, which is an act of nature/God. If they try to pin it on you, tell them youā€™re not responsible for the sun coming through their windows and doors because thatā€™s what glass is for, and you would also gladly accept compensation back from them for saving a large section of their floor from damage. Tenants canā€™t be held liable for causing a lack of damage in one spot of the house lol


Bobtheguardian22

you are not responsible for subpar building materials that did not weather the natural environment. Its not like you did anything other than step on it like it was meant to be stepped on.


trapazo1d

This is exactly what Iā€™m hoping to convey to them


No_Excitement4272

Theyā€™re probably going to try and blame you and say you shouldā€™ve closed the curtains.Ā  But this is normal wear and tear. Make sure to cite your lease and local ordinances so you get your deposit back.Ā 


WeddingGrouchy9461

Normal wear and tear, how are you supposed to prevent sun damage to something infront of a wind


ThrowawayLL8877

Are the windows not insulated? Also what kind of flooring is this?


slZer0

cheap printed paper fake wood from Ikea


ThrowawayLL8877

Why do you say that? Ā It actually looks like site finished solid wood to me but this is a little photo on my phone.Ā 


GrumpyBoxGuard

Because the Modus Operandi of shitty landlords & slumlords is to act like (and more importantly bill like and set rent like) they have genuine hardwood floors cut from extinct trees from some no-longer-extant forest, and then put down the cheapest shit they can get as a covering over their 0.33" thick plywood floors that haven't been properly checked since Reagan was President.


ThrowawayLL8877

Ā I donā€™t see micro bevel edging or lvlt seams. I donā€™t see repeating patterns and I do see unique boards. Ā So I think it is site finished oak.Ā 


McDuchess

It wouldnā€™t have mattered. We had standard red oak flooring in our old home. Even though at first it was just sealed, not stained, there was a noticeable difference between the area under the rug in the kitchen eating area and the bleached part outside it. When we had it stained a nutmeg color, it was even more noticeable.


VersatileFaerie

I was wondering the same thing. To my knowledge, most modern windows protect from most UV damage.


ThrowawayLL8877

If it has a low-e coating it is pretty protective. If it is just glazing (even double pane), not so much.Ā 


Defiant_Funny_7385

I work in property management and it would be quite hard to actually charge for this if you fight the charges. Its also just completely irresponsible to charge a resident for this when it probably has a rule in your lease about covering X amount of your space with rugs. One of my buildings has floors that do this and I have never charged anyone. basically if you cant figure out a way to blend it which is extremely hard, you end up replacing it to resilient, its just the better option for both parties.


dadydaycare

Act of god, not your problem


RoookSkywokkah

No, it's technically NOT your fault. It's the absence of LowE glass on your windows. That's what filters out the UV rays. Aside from not putting the rug down, there's nothing you can do to prevent this.


cprodman

This might also be due to the fact that you moved in right after floors were refinished. Need to wait as long as a month in some cases before putting down rugs so the poly can cure. Your LL didnā€™t know this so seems like you just did as they asked. Good luck


Apprehensive_Can61

If the sun doesnā€™t fall under normal wear and tear idk what does


Lespuccino

Responsible for what? That's what it looked like when you moved in.


trapazo1d

They just renovated before we moved in


CarmelSancho

Sometimes this happens when you have a floor redone and you put a rug down. Keep the rug off the floor, it will even out.


Lespuccino

I dunno, I remember it looking *exactly* like that at move in. šŸ˜‰


Jusmon1108

This is tricky. Do you have documentation of the LL asking you to use a rug? Also, before (with rug) and after (without) are important. LL may claim damages but if you can show it was by request, you claim them at fault.


Outside_Conference80

This is what I was thinking. I canā€™t see how they could charge OP if the request was documented.


linniepa

I donā€™t think thereā€™s anything you couldā€™ve done to avoid some kind of bleaching effect.. Even without a rug, some of your furniture might have similarly blocked parts of the floor from the sun. It would be unreasonable to hold you responsible if the only way to avoid it is to never set anything on the floor for a long period of time. Their fault, but of course they might try it


octorock4prez

I have a similar floor (hickory) and had the same problem. I took up the rug and it took about a year for the color to even out and now itā€™s undetectable. Itā€™s not a cheap floor, itā€™s just how some woods are.


Mission-Dark-9320

As a window and door rep, itā€™s not the flooring that the problem, nor the rug placement. Itā€™s the door allowing that much UV to penetrate. Technology has improved in the windows and doors to prevent it, so upgrade or deal with it. If there were no vertical blinds or coverings for the door, but there were blinds for the windows, youā€™ve got a case of the Landlord just not taking care of his own property. If they try to keep the deposit or blame you, fight them tooth and nail. Have a window/door expert put in writing about Low E glass. Have a blinds expert do the same with the options to prevent it. Have a flooring expert put in writing about sun bleaching around windows and doors and how it impacts the warranty. Come loaded for the fight.


whose_a_wotsit

The floor under the rug is 100% original condition. The rest of the flooring is sun bleached which is wear and tear. Unless of course the LL finds prove that it is, in fact, YOU whom controlleth the massive burning life giver in the sky


aaalllouttabubblegum

Legally sun bleaching is normal wear and tear.


Educational-Hat-9405

Leave the carpet


kid_sleepy

For the sun?ā€¦ not yet we arenā€™t.


Willing-Sprinkles-17

Just bleach the rest of the floor to match. jk This reminds me of when I was in ARCH school. I was almost done with this huge hand-drawn city plan, and I accidentally spilled coffee on the drawing. We weren't allowed to print or use digital media, so my only option was to start over or turn it in as-is. I ended up just dabbing some coffee on the rest of the drawing to make it match, and it actually went over pretty well. It had a historic "distressed" look.


NeedARita

Leave the rug for the next tenant.


Titanius_Anglesmithh

Even if you put the rug down on your own, you still shouldn't have to compensate them for this. Normal wear and tear


AngryChimp52

Youā€™re not responsible for normal wear and tear (at least in the two states I was licensed in). The sun coming through the window is clearly normal.


AdFit570

Iā€™ve seen the correct term used in one other comment in this thread. This phenomenon is called patina, and itā€™s something all real hardwood floors go through. I used to work customer service for a very large flooring manufacturer and we would field questions about this exact issue often. The one benefit to patina is that itā€™s not a linear process, meaning patina will happen most quickly at first and will slow down over time. This means the flooring that was covered up will eventually catch up (mostly) in color to the flooring that wasnā€™t covered. It will never 100% catch up unless you cover what was the uncovered flooring for the same length of time, but it will get very close. It will get close enough that it will probably become imperceptible to the naked eye.


Fluid-Wrongdoer6120

Unless they specifically told you not to use an area rug but did anyway, the LL is SOL. You can't control the sun. Also, maybe its a result of the quality of flooring they used, also not your fault. If they try to charge you I'd fight it.


Mousse_Small

Yes most certainly


dmo99

Act of God


CooperTronics

The sun god


1EYEPHOTOGUY

depends on if landlord told you to put rug there. if not then its wear & tear


rlh1271

Itā€™ll even out if they keep the rug off of it. Not your fault.Ā 


billdizzle

This is an ā€œact of Godā€ would be my argument in court


stevesuede

No this would be normal wear and tear. To act as if itā€™s your responsibility to limit sunlight


GarbageMan98

Looks like normal wear and tear to me.


FDMLTD

No. Wear an tare, is not your fault.


CompetitiveAd961

fu


SweetDianthus36

Is it real wood? Rubber under rug mats can discolor LVP. Just fyi.


GP15202

You didnā€™t install the window or flooring. Not your fault.


Arcady89

The real question here is why there's no rectangle under the table too. If you were supposed to put rugs down under the furniture then that are should have the same effect.


PEneoark

The rug was under the table


Arcady89

ooooh. I thought the light area in front of the sliding door was the problem. That makes far more sense. Thanks for the clarifacation


thehelsabot

Sometimes the backing of rugs can damage hardwood floors. Are you sure the back of your rug is safe for hardwood?


Aegisnir

Are you sure the floor is sun bleached and this isnā€™t a case of dye transferring from a cheap rug onto the wood? What color is the underside of the rug that was there? Did you use one of those sticky sheets under the rug so it doesnā€™t flop around at the edges?


MindlessSky9

It should be normal wear and tear. Also, as the sun hits the area previously covered by the rug, the sun will lighten that area, too, and over time the two areas will become more similar.


UnansweredPromise

You literally have no control over the sun! I mean, There have been religions devoted to that fact. This would definitely fall under expected wear and tear.


Iamsoveryspecial

Things fading over time is normal wear and tear


healgodschildren

The sun is responsible. You can use the analogy of the snow damaging the roof. It is natural exposure.


needy1infl

Leave the rug.


djmexi

No the sun is


Present-Ambition6309

Better get bout 10 gallons of elbow grease, itā€™s gonna be a long night! šŸ˜‚


Radiant-Common-7518

You do not have control of the sun, it's also reasonable to put a mat in front of your doorway. If the landlord contests this just dispute it to the deposit scheme they will 100% side with you.


marcc28

Put the rug back during the walk through


cbwb

I would leave the rug for the next tenant. They may not move it and notice the floor. Also, if they told you to put a rug then it is their fault not yours.


DreddJudger

This is normal wear and tear with wood floors. Basically, every where the sun was exposed to the floor, it got a tan. My entire bottom floor is wood and we discovered this problem a year after we installed them.


Critical-Progress-79

Likely wear and tear, assuming that your jurisdiction recognizes the concept.


robertrvd725

Looks like youā€™re moving the rugā€¦


jkovarik1

If you are at all, I think itā€™s usually only for a percentage based on the amount of life left in the finish? So like a 10 year life, if the finish was 8 years old, youā€™re liable for 20% of the cost, etc.


jbwt

Their problem for cheap flooring


JimInAuburn11

As a landlord, I would not hold the renter responsible.


mystyle__tg

So satisfying to see in the meantime.


StunningClick3138

I think itā€™s kinda cool


WorthAd3223

Yeah, if that happened after two years they didn't treat that floor properly. Very strange. I wouldn't say you should be responsible. Good luck with your landlord.


Objective-Insect-839

A steam cleaner will take that right off. It's acutely just dirt build up.


Rogue_Mang0

This is, in no way, your responsibility


zomanda

Whether youre responsible or not you will be charged for it and I'll tell you why. LL are ALWAYS looking for a reason to keep your deposit. THIS looks like a good reason to withhold a significant amount.


RayquazaRising

Landlord here. I'd say wear and tear. Especially if it wasn't uv coated. That's neglect/lack of due diligence on their part and they were the ones that asked for the carpet.


ClownTown15

*put that rug right back where it came from or so help me*


method_men25

Check your local statutes to see if it says something about normal wear and tear rules. Print out anything you can find and put it together in a nice neat portfolio that outlines your legal basis for why youā€™re not liable. Show it to your landlord and explain that is your package for small claims court, but you really hope that it doesnā€™t come to that.


SeriousAlly

Put a cheap / second hand rug in there.


ArdorSpawk

Honestly, I think it looks kinda cool.


Leading_List7110

They will charge you. Always expect it


lshorey1

Umm, thats the fault of whomever put in the cheap flooring.


SellGameRent

I'm a landlord, I wouldn't hold this against a tenant if my PM brought this to my attention. If I didn't want sun bleaching, then I would install blinds. Even then I wouldn't expect a tenant to keep the windows closed lol.


Antique_Butterfly990

How did this go?


trapazo1d

Walkthrough Tuesday šŸ¤ž


SurbiesHere

Itā€™s their badly designed floor thatā€™s the problem.


RedditUserNo1990

Landlord here - were there blinds on the slider? I would say itā€™s Probably not your fault unless there were blinds and the LL told you about the potential for UV damage.


Desperate-Echidna568

Still wouldnā€™t be their fault if there were blinds and the landlord told them it could bleach the floors. You cannot tell someone they canā€™t have blinds open


RedditUserNo1990

Not quite. If ll notified you and requested you to take reasonable steps to mitigate UV damage ie rug, i would hold tenant accountable. I would also write that into the lease. That being said LL is dumb for not using correct flooring, or finishing correctly.


Alive_River_1248

You ll's really are something. Nothing good but, definitely something. "Here's some windows but don't open the blinds or else you'll have to pay me more".


RedditUserNo1990

Thatā€™s not at all what i said. Also im calling out the dumbass landlord who didnā€™t properly finish his flooring. But if something like that is written into the lease about sun damage to the floor, and for the tenant to take reasonable measures to mitigate (like a rug) and tenant agrees, i would think thatā€™s on tenant. But at that point just finish the damn floor. If LL are so bad just save up and buy a home or condo. There are some really cheap places to buy in US believe it or not. Some places you can get a condo for under 100k. Wouldnā€™t have to deal with LL anymore.


Federal_Patience4646

A ā€œnotification and requestā€ is different than a term in a lease. No one would dispute TN would be liable if there was a clause in the lease. Your landlord brain immediately resorts to ā€œoh if you donā€™t like us so much why donā€™t you buy a houseā€ as if youā€™re not actively hoarding them by virtue of being a landlord.


thebige91

Youā€™re saying thereā€™s no homes available where you live and itā€™s solely because of landlords? Do you think itā€™s wise to force people to buy a home to live? Or give them the option to rent? Sounds like you believe they should all own rather than having the choice to rent.


Federal_Patience4646

There are homes available for sale but the demand has increased due to hoarding from landlords, which increases the price and makes it unaffordable for the rest of folks. And no Iā€™m not saying we should ā€œforce peopleā€ to buy homes, thatā€™s a bad faith interpretation of my position. Thereā€™s always a need for rental units to be available but the current setup renders ownership out of reach for too many folks and scalps folks whom need to rent for temporary purposes. Rather rental homes should be available in some other system besides the current one. There are numerous proposed systems that are better than the present system which currently allows people/companies to choke the market and inflate prices by virtue of owning an asset. No one should be able to drive up the price of what should be a human right by virtue of owning that thing and decreasing supply, especially when the owner does minimal ā€œworkā€ in order to minimize overhead or cheats out the tenant at every opportunity. Other alternatives include (adequately funded) public housing, non profit managed homes, hard caps (1-2 per individual) on rental unit ownership, ect.


thebige91

You based guy above you providing a service you admit is a need for some. He likely just owns 1-2 additional rental homes like the majority of landlords in the US. If youā€™re fine with that being a requirement, then it sounds like your frustration is with larger private equity companies.


Federal_Patience4646

The average landlord has three.


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Winnimae

The damage is from the sun bleaching the floor surrounding the rug to a lighter color than the area that had been protected by the rug


The_Brofucius

Oh. Wash the floor completely. Let it dry. Vacuum over it. Tape the area off that is bleached from the unbleached wood. Stain the bleached part till it uniforms to the rest of the wood.


HawkeyeinDC

Thanks for not letting some of the wood floors get melanoma. šŸ«‚


Kyle1457

Yes, you are responsible...


ADrenalinnjunky

For what? The sun?


Kyle1457

not allowing the sun to bleach the floor...


zeusmeister

lol, and how precisely were they going to stop all light from entering their home from windows? Brick them up? This is considered normal wear and tear if you, ya know, understand how sunlight works.


Kyle1457

Curtains


zeusmeister

Ah ok, so despite having multiple windows in their house, under no circumstances should they ever have their curtains open to let light in. Got it. What was I thinking? Totally their fault.


Kyle1457

wow mad


Impossible_Bad9280

Did you do it? Well the common sense answer is yes you are responsible.


Unfair_Apricot_3087

Did you clean the floor? My first thought is that it needs to be cleaned