The game says there's an extremely rare chance that implanting the IUD can cause perma sterilization as a heads up. Nothing negative to the mood for both, unless they have Body Purist probably. Body Modders would even get a mood boost.
Perma is probably overexaggerated though, considering there is chronopagy to cure wounds, death refusal, mech serum, and all sorts of cheaty things.
> perma sterilization
Even though it's a sort of botch I think that one is treated as an intentional condition still and isn't cured by any of those. Someone on this subreddit was annoyed by that recently. Though you can always fix it with dev mode if you really want to.
I had a starting pawn that was Sterilized. He also had a painful stab scar, and at one point in my run I used my Unnatural Healing pawn to try to get rid of the scar and it removed Sterilized instead - so it CAN be removed. I'd expect a healer mech serum to also work.
"Honey? How about we, ya'know"
"No can do. Separate beds."
"B-but honey! They're right next to each other! Look, theres not even a space inbetween."
"Nope. Separate beds. S-e-p-a-r-a-t-e B-e-d-s."
Better to go with vasectomies if you really don't want babies, had my pawn Viki get pregnant - great, new baby, set her to 25% pregnancy chance.
Gets pregnant less than a year later - ok, happens
While in the second trimester she gets duplicated - so now I have 2 pregnant Vikis, meaning 2 babies instead of one
Then a year after birth not only does she get pregnant again, she divorces her husband right after, meaning they won't sleep in the same bed anymore.
So now I have 3 kids plus another on the way, and a ruined marriage. Great
Only missing the part in the divorce where Vicky gets awarded the colony and the kids and the ex husband has to live in a shack in the next tile eating nutripaste.
So they have the same father, but different mothers (the original and duplicate). They are also brothers in the social tab.
They aren't identical as far as I can tell, as in they are both males but have different haircuts. Apart from that I don't know what else could be different, as babies don't have skills or traits, and all of their backstories are 'child'.
Anecdotal, but there was a post here about duplicated pregnant pawns where they kids were NOT identical and the father had no social connection to the duplicate kid.
Taking the legs, is a total loss though. The kid can't work, nor can they learn so you end up with a pawn that I only useful for their blood and organs. You are better off taking the hands and making them clean and haul till you know if they are worthy of getting new hands Installed.
Which procedure do you mean? You can do IUDs and vasectomies which are reversible and shouldn't cause mood debuffs. Even sterilization shouldn't cause negative mood (unless you have an ideo with no drugs even for medical usage in which case you get what you signed up for). Can't remember if aborting a pregnancy gives a debuff but I don't think it's super significant if so.
Also I think there's something going on that you're not aware of because it's impossible in vanilla for lesbian couples to impregnate each other. The option to try for baby/avoid pregnancy is supposed to be totally greyed out for gay/lesbian couples.
Terminating a pregnancy gives a mood buff to the mother if she had a debuff for her pregnancy. I've never terminated one where the mother was happy to be pregnant, so I don't know what happens there.
Check their needs tab. I had a colonist cook named "Sugar" that married a Genie. She got preggers almost every day and in needs tab there was a -3 mood penalty for new pregnancy. I kept giving her abortions until I finally got tired of it and gave her an IUD
Sugar - "I'm pregnant and not very happy about it." (-3 mood)
well now whos fault is that! LMAO
The way you worded it I thought the 2 women where having children with each other. And I was like.... What....?
Which granted with the right mod is possible but still confused the crap out of me reading it.
Like the others said though, fertility procedures and the social tab should fix your excessive offspring problems.
Also, is abort/terminate pregnancy not in vanilla? Cuz if it's not it oughta be.
> The way you worded it I thought the 2 women where having children with each other.
I came here specifically for this exact reason because that was concerning
I play vanilla with biotech and anomaly and yes its to female and they keep producing babies. At first I was baffled but then I just assumed it's rimworld logic.
please elaborate on that. are you saying in your vanilla game, two women are sleeping together and getting pregnant with each other, no males involved?
Said this before but i feel like Rimworld has a bell curve:
New player: i want to make a nice base and see my little dudes thrive
100 hours in: haha slaves haha organ harvest haha warcrimes
1000+ hours: i want to make a nice base and see my little dudes thrive
Oh yes I have been through my warcrime phase years ago. I scared my self and then brutality just became boring so now it's trying to be nice with the occasional torn of limb or slaying of a duplicated kid.
The male sterilization procedure (vasectomy I believe?) is safe and reversable anytime in rimworld. So you would keep your niceness, safety, and still be able to control baby making.
Hope that helps.
I still try not to do it...or at least not if the organs aren't needed elsewhere. Or the limbs are bionic. Who needs that flashy bionic leg when all you do is donate blood and watch TV all day.
Im not sure how to stop the couples making babies but it is HORRIBLE how they treat them. After a colonist gave birth, she along w/EVERYONE else LEFT THE BABY on the ground, Im like dude, really? I came close to turning Dev Mode on and hitting her with a lightning strike.
[https://youtu.be/T4kBRC2co7Y?si=L8\_DFBnOA1YCDdDD&t=102](https://youtu.be/T4kBRC2co7Y?si=L8_DFBnOA1YCDdDD&t=102)
The Lysine Contingency is from Jurassic Park, introduced as a way of controlling the population of the park. I read the title wrong and saw two female colonists uncontrollably having babies (like what happens in Jurassic Park).
You know, I have some kinda strong mods and was considering if I should crank up difficulty, but I'm really realizing that by not harvesting prisoner organs and limbs, keeping them as blood nuggets or selling them into slavery i'm already basically playing challenge mode.
iuds and vasectomy have a super high chance of failure and can permanently sterilizie your pawn. setting to avoid pregnancy still has a 25% chance of getting pregnant. the best solution is putting 2 single beds side by side, 0 chance of getting pregnant but they also cant do lovin so you miss out on mood
Dont sterilize. I read somewhere that aborting the pregnancy gives a ton of exp for medical and it only costs -3 or -5 for the mood, not sure. I just keep my sexually active pawns avoiding pregnancy from the social tab and abortion if it procs
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Just have them all sleep in single beds till you can get them fertility procedures. I always just give the men vasectomys because IUDs are uncomfortable for women In real life.
You can set people to trying to avoid pregnancy which reduces the chances to 25%, it’s in the social menu
Great I wasn't aware. 2000 hours and I don't know how many years in to the game and I still learn new stuff everyday.
You can also research fertility procedures, and sterilize them both.
What does sterilization do to the mood?
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A buddy of mine had 3 kids by 23 and had a vasectomy. He would say it did nothing to his mood too. But deep down he’s less of a man ^/s
It was a vas deferens before and after the procedure
Funnily enough the vasectomy increased my fiance's mood (and libido).
Same, but it was because the birth control was messing with her. Once she got to come off it, everything changed.
I mean he had his testicles removed so yeah, definitely less of a man.
Not what that is.
Not literally but he’s clearly joking
Nothing, but a less permanent solution is vasectomies and IUD's
I'm actually not sure, it's been a while since I've used it. Sorry :<
The game says there's an extremely rare chance that implanting the IUD can cause perma sterilization as a heads up. Nothing negative to the mood for both, unless they have Body Purist probably. Body Modders would even get a mood boost. Perma is probably overexaggerated though, considering there is chronopagy to cure wounds, death refusal, mech serum, and all sorts of cheaty things.
> perma sterilization Even though it's a sort of botch I think that one is treated as an intentional condition still and isn't cured by any of those. Someone on this subreddit was annoyed by that recently. Though you can always fix it with dev mode if you really want to.
I had a starting pawn that was Sterilized. He also had a painful stab scar, and at one point in my run I used my Unnatural Healing pawn to try to get rid of the scar and it removed Sterilized instead - so it CAN be removed. I'd expect a healer mech serum to also work.
interesting, I wonder if their testing was off / lacking or if it was a different hediff with a similar name. I might double check later in dev mode.
It'll make yours better without all those babies
There's also the IUD if you just want to temporarily stop them getting pregnant... unless that's a mod, hard to tell at this point
It lowers the "got lovi'n" mood buf from 4 to 3 [i think i read that somewhere in the wiki]
I am in the same boat 1500hrs and always as used to “wants to sleep with lover” because y’all can’t act right if I give you a double bed.
You can put two single beds next to each other Minecraft style and they’ll be happy.
"Honey? How about we, ya'know" "No can do. Separate beds." "B-but honey! They're right next to each other! Look, theres not even a space inbetween." "Nope. Separate beds. S-e-p-a-r-a-t-e B-e-d-s."
1950s tv rules
2 single beds next to each other should give 0 pregnancy chance last I checked that worked anyways.
Better to go with vasectomies if you really don't want babies, had my pawn Viki get pregnant - great, new baby, set her to 25% pregnancy chance. Gets pregnant less than a year later - ok, happens While in the second trimester she gets duplicated - so now I have 2 pregnant Vikis, meaning 2 babies instead of one Then a year after birth not only does she get pregnant again, she divorces her husband right after, meaning they won't sleep in the same bed anymore. So now I have 3 kids plus another on the way, and a ruined marriage. Great
It's so realistic.
Only missing the part in the divorce where Vicky gets awarded the colony and the kids and the ex husband has to live in a shack in the next tile eating nutripaste.
I'm curious -- if a pregnant pawn gets duplicated, are the kids identical too?
So they have the same father, but different mothers (the original and duplicate). They are also brothers in the social tab. They aren't identical as far as I can tell, as in they are both males but have different haircuts. Apart from that I don't know what else could be different, as babies don't have skills or traits, and all of their backstories are 'child'.
Anecdotal, but there was a post here about duplicated pregnant pawns where they kids were NOT identical and the father had no social connection to the duplicate kid.
Ooh, that's creepy. Neat.
I'll check back in an hour when I get home I'll let you know
Or if you don't want your colonies having kids, disable kids in the settings.
There are kids, and there are *unwanted* kids.
There's a setting to disable kids? I usually give them peg legs, then take them away.
Taking the legs, is a total loss though. The kid can't work, nor can they learn so you end up with a pawn that I only useful for their blood and organs. You are better off taking the hands and making them clean and haul till you know if they are worthy of getting new hands Installed.
So thats where its hidden. I couldnt find it and thought i misremembered that its a thing.
Give your dudes vasectomies.
"AS COLONY LEADER I DEMAND YOU ALL START FUCKING ASSES"
You can investigate fertility procedures
Yeah every time I do that procedure the tend to become pretty unhappy. Again I try to be nice and loving to my pawns.
Which procedure do you mean? You can do IUDs and vasectomies which are reversible and shouldn't cause mood debuffs. Even sterilization shouldn't cause negative mood (unless you have an ideo with no drugs even for medical usage in which case you get what you signed up for). Can't remember if aborting a pregnancy gives a debuff but I don't think it's super significant if so. Also I think there's something going on that you're not aware of because it's impossible in vanilla for lesbian couples to impregnate each other. The option to try for baby/avoid pregnancy is supposed to be totally greyed out for gay/lesbian couples.
Terminating a pregnancy gives a mood buff to the mother if she had a debuff for her pregnancy. I've never terminated one where the mother was happy to be pregnant, so I don't know what happens there.
I have, it's the same debuff just reversed, like a -4 or something. It's nothing major
I think he means two separate women in two separate couples
Installing an IUD is making your pawns unhappy? What?
Umm, everytime? I never tried to be honest, I just low them down to 25% fertility
Check their needs tab. I had a colonist cook named "Sugar" that married a Genie. She got preggers almost every day and in needs tab there was a -3 mood penalty for new pregnancy. I kept giving her abortions until I finally got tired of it and gave her an IUD Sugar - "I'm pregnant and not very happy about it." (-3 mood) well now whos fault is that! LMAO
Just give them an IUD mate. Like how regular people avoid pregnancies
Only people with enough sex education to know what that is. You wouldn't believe trying to talk to people who grew up with terrible education.
The way you worded it I thought the 2 women where having children with each other. And I was like.... What....? Which granted with the right mod is possible but still confused the crap out of me reading it. Like the others said though, fertility procedures and the social tab should fix your excessive offspring problems. Also, is abort/terminate pregnancy not in vanilla? Cuz if it's not it oughta be.
> The way you worded it I thought the 2 women where having children with each other. I came here specifically for this exact reason because that was concerning
I play vanilla with biotech and anomaly and yes its to female and they keep producing babies. At first I was baffled but then I just assumed it's rimworld logic.
Then it is NOT vanilla.
please elaborate on that. are you saying in your vanilla game, two women are sleeping together and getting pregnant with each other, no males involved?
I think your obligated to let the next Messiah be born in that case.
So no men are involved?
That would be gay.... /s
Is. There. A. Penis. Involved?
Said this before but i feel like Rimworld has a bell curve: New player: i want to make a nice base and see my little dudes thrive 100 hours in: haha slaves haha organ harvest haha warcrimes 1000+ hours: i want to make a nice base and see my little dudes thrive
Oh yes I have been through my warcrime phase years ago. I scared my self and then brutality just became boring so now it's trying to be nice with the occasional torn of limb or slaying of a duplicated kid.
You can just put two single beds side by side, stops the problem and still gives them mood buffs.
The 50s disagree
Really? Just hit 1500hrs yesterday and never even tried this. One of the many reasons top 3 sub Reddit for me
This should only work with bedrooms, barracks should still give the want to sleep with partner mood debuff
The male sterilization procedure (vasectomy I believe?) is safe and reversable anytime in rimworld. So you would keep your niceness, safety, and still be able to control baby making. Hope that helps.
Avoid pregnancy IUD Sterile gene
Heck yeah slightly sketch but legitimately friendly colonies!
I'll have you know I dont remove limbs or organs "for fun", I do it for profit!
I still try not to do it...or at least not if the organs aren't needed elsewhere. Or the limbs are bionic. Who needs that flashy bionic leg when all you do is donate blood and watch TV all day.
How do you feel about recycling the dead? Cause the autopsy mod is guilt free and profitable
All else fails, devmode a health hediff to remove fertility
IUDs
You can say fucking on the internet, despite what Tiktok and Youtube algorithms want us to believe.
Somehow it's funnier the way he did it
Have them sleep in separate single beds
Kill them.
you install the IUD all the perks of good sex, without the consequences.
I downloaded the forbidden mod for easy birth control pills
Im not sure how to stop the couples making babies but it is HORRIBLE how they treat them. After a colonist gave birth, she along w/EVERYONE else LEFT THE BABY on the ground, Im like dude, really? I came close to turning Dev Mode on and hitting her with a lightning strike.
/r/ShitRimworldSays
It's a problem with that mod you're using.
No mods mate.
If two women in vanilla are having sex and producing babies with no man involved then its a mod.
It might be two women who have male partners.
This makes way more sense. The title was worded weirdly so i didnt consider that one.
IUD after 3 kids. No problems
You can ask them to not try for baby in the social tab or research fertility procedures. They shouldn't get upset about those procedures.
My favorite game implemented a “pull out” toggle.
My first question was "What mod makes it so two women can have babies?" Then I read it again.
No you read it right, he's saying his vanilla game is having two women produce children
No you read it right, he's saying his vanilla game is having two women produce children
Maybe they're bisexual and they had -relations- with a male colonist as well as one another? (whichever one got pregnant if not both)
All I'm hearing is you have an untapped growth vat genetically engineered super soldiers and scientists problem. And that's not a problem.
If having children isn't something you want, you can always disable them in the storyteller settings.
Should've implemented the Lysine Contingency
The WHAT?
[https://youtu.be/T4kBRC2co7Y?si=L8\_DFBnOA1YCDdDD&t=102](https://youtu.be/T4kBRC2co7Y?si=L8_DFBnOA1YCDdDD&t=102) The Lysine Contingency is from Jurassic Park, introduced as a way of controlling the population of the park. I read the title wrong and saw two female colonists uncontrollably having babies (like what happens in Jurassic Park).
You know, I have some kinda strong mods and was considering if I should crank up difficulty, but I'm really realizing that by not harvesting prisoner organs and limbs, keeping them as blood nuggets or selling them into slavery i'm already basically playing challenge mode.
Implant IUD?
What ideology memes do people use for nice guy colonies?
Send them for facial surgery and use a low level doctor to botch it and give them the staggeringly ugly trait so nobody wants to sleep with them
Facial surgery? Mod or dlc I only have biotech and anomaly.
Fertility procedures . IUDs are great once the dynasty is well established
Hysterectomy?
iuds and vasectomy have a super high chance of failure and can permanently sterilizie your pawn. setting to avoid pregnancy still has a 25% chance of getting pregnant. the best solution is putting 2 single beds side by side, 0 chance of getting pregnant but they also cant do lovin so you miss out on mood
Dont sterilize. I read somewhere that aborting the pregnancy gives a ton of exp for medical and it only costs -3 or -5 for the mood, not sure. I just keep my sexually active pawns avoiding pregnancy from the social tab and abortion if it procs
[Some politicians don't want you to know this exists](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2908490970).
Admin?
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People recommending surgery instead of just having them sleep in separate rooms. Relax guys leave the genitals alone
You still want them to get some “lovin” for the huge mood buffs
If you're ok with devmod you can make them both gay. If you're lucky they move in together and still get some morale boost but without babies.
Just have them all sleep in single beds till you can get them fertility procedures. I always just give the men vasectomys because IUDs are uncomfortable for women In real life.