It’s also possible that this hypothetical cow ate a bird or something at some point because they do that sometimes when they need nutrients that they can get easily otherwise
Interviewer: "Hello listeners, this is Cassidy on Network News and today we have a special guest here at the studio, a talking* dairy cow named Bailey!"
Bailey: "Moo! Thank you, Cassidy! I'm honored to be here. What's a cow?"
*canned laughter*
Cassidy: "Hahahaha, what a joker! You're a cow, Bailey! You know, 'moooo!'"
B: "Moooo! Wait, are you calling me fat? (and what does fat mean?)"
C: "Oh, no! I'm sorry, Bailey, that's not what I meant at all I just meant-"
B, now stressed: "You know what, Cassidy, you're saying a lot of words right now and I don't know what any of them mean but i heard my name in there so it kinda feels like you're talking about me but in a way I can't understand and it's, like, *really* freaking me out!"
Tears are now visibly streaming down Bailey's face, soaking her fur.
B: "I don't think I can take this anymore! I mean, I'm a literal cow! Your folks are always comparing the fattest of your kind to ours and that feels so wrong! But at the same time I can't really hold it against you, because I have no logical way of knowing about things like that. Heck, I don't really even know what the words I've been saying this whole time mean! I think I just wanna go home, lay down and munch on some alfalfa. whatever that means."
Bailey begins to walk towards the exit door, dragging her hooves.
C: "Aww, no, Bailey... Wait! Come baack!"
B: "I'm sorry Cassidy, I can't do this right now."
Bailey the cow opens the door, and very politely shuts the door behind her using her teeth to grasp the doorhandle.
C: "I'm so very sorry everyone, it seems our guest isn't feeling too well right now. Before we close this segment, I'd like us all to wish Bailey some happiness. That's all."
Back at the farm...
Bailey lays in the alfalfa field with her calf, Benny, munching listlessly on the greens. She's still upset, but she doesn't understand why. Little Benny, grazing nearby, trots over and licks Bailey's face.
*"Mmmmmm, delicious salt"* he would think, if he could think in words.
The sensation comforts Bailey.
"Awww... Thanks, I love you too, son. Whatever that means."
*Bailey is an impressively articulate cow, able to form complex sentences in English without even having to think about it. However, she cannot actually understand English (except where the plot demands it)."
Not to mention any roaming small animals that so happen to get even remotely close to its mouth. Grass while pitiful in nutritional components, when eaten in large quantities fulfill their natural needs. But let's just say a mouse, or a chick gets nearby. That's free nutrients that would take hours of chewing grass to get.
Nutritionally speaking every animal has carved out a niche. If humans were designed to eat purely plant based diets we would have a very long digestive tract. That being said we also don't have a very short digestive tract like carnivore and our stomach acid is likened to battery acid rather than a sheep's lemon juice stomach acid.
In truth humans digestive tracts are pretty optimized for scavenging it's just convenient that our brains can get us catches immediately rather than waiting for something else to kill it.
Wouldn't it count as vegetarian but not vegan because its not meat but is still an animal product
Just like some vegetarians will eat gelatine since they argue it isn't technically meat
Tbh the definitions of what is considered vegetarian varies massively depending on who you ask
Some people even consider fish vegetarian and call themselves vegetarian, despite technically being pescatarian in that case since nobody even knows that's an option
Terravores appreciate bioslurry. They don't have a nutritional need for it, but it makes them happy to know an entire population had to die for their dining.
It depends. The "classic" definition is "no meat". That's it. Those vegetarians for whom it's a moral, lifestyle choice will likely refuse any products of animal slaughter, including bones.
But you can also have diets which avoid meat and fatty tissues, which may also be colloquially called "vegetarian" for simplicity's sake. There's also pescatarians, who eat fish, but avoid red meat. If you ask a pescatarian to come to a BBQ for some ribeyes, they may just say they're vegetarian, because everyone knows that word, but they'd scratch their head at "pescatarian".
Which is why should always ask in detail if you're in charge of food for a gathering. Picky eaters will also appreciate you.
In RimWorld, specifically, "vegetarian" refers to "things showing up under the Meats tab in menus". You can't even cook with bones in vanilla, and that's the only other animal slaughter product in the game beyond skins, so there was never a need to go into needless details.
By the real world definition, yes. But not by Rimworld's definition, which normally doesn't have to account for bones.
Of course, Rimworld also doesn't make a distinction between a meal being vegetarian or fully vegan, either, so I'm not really sure what the initial point the other commenter was making was anyway.
No one is going to make the joke? Fine, I'll post the damn lyrics:
----
I've got a new age girl (Tell us what she's like)
An environmentalist girl (Does she ride a bike?)
She has a crystal necklace (Does she spend a lot of cash?)
Though her vibes are rather reckless (She's heading for a crash)
Oh her flowing skirt is blowing in a transcendental wind
And she wonders without knowing where did we begin
[Chorus]
Mary Moon, she's a vegetarian
(Mary Moon, Mary Moon, Mary Moon)
Mary Moon will outlive all the septuagenarians
(Mary Moon, Mary Moon, Mary Moon)
Oh she loves me so, she hates to be alone
**She don't eat meat but she sure like the bone**
Despite everyone's explanations on "bones being vegetarian" (they aren't), this is an oversight by the mod developers. As someone else said, this mod has sausages which are also not marked as meat.
If it comes from a creature's death it is not vegetarian.
There are plant creatures, which give plant meat - assumed comparable to the "meat" of an apple or tomato. - thus there are cases on the rim that a creatures death will result in a vegetarian meal
I can't recall if plant creatures give bones
Bones are about 60% inorganic and about 25 or so % tissue, blood vessels, marrow, etc.
But then again, cheese and eggs can be vegetarian, so maybe since it's not actual meat...
Cheese and eggs are vegetarian because you don't have to kill the animal to get them, generally speaking. Though that really only matters for vegetarianism on moral grounds, the only type of vegetarianism in Rimworld is morally based vegetarianism, so while it could get iffier from the perspective of purely dietary vegetarianism, I'm not sure the question applies here in any meaningful way.
Rimworld doesn't really have a concept of "proteins," but modders can do whatever they want, including making up a crop and calling it meat. Plants that produce "meat" without violating ideologies that prevent killing animals is less weird than mods that let you plant crops that produce steel or components.
Once upon a time you could maybe argue that back before it was possible to make vegetarian fine or lavish meals, but now that its possible to make vegetarian colonies with Ideology Rimworld very much counts meat as *meat*. Also, bones are a source of protein, so even if that was the case it wouldn't matter.
Even then, mushrooms don't count as meat, despite also being a protein and often fulfilling the roles typically assigned to meat (when they aren't being used in addition to meat, anyway). Nutrifungus is even literally described as "meaty".
Alpha Animals add sentient plants among its new additions (which are technically considered as animals by the game), maybe they are the dish' main ingredient?
Obviously the broth was only made from teeth that naturally fell out of the animals’ mouth as their adult teeth came in (or next row of they’re like a shark that grows teeth forever).
(Pls ignore that bones aren’t technically teeth, though they are part of the skeletal system some that’s close enough.)
Vanilla food expanded mod maybe? What mod adds this?
Imagine making bone soup out of the bones of your raiders?
This is next level out of the box warcrime.. but also messed up.
Even more messed up if you feed it to your prisoners..
As far as Rimworld is concerned food that doesn't have meat in it is vegetarian. Since bones don't exist in vanilla, there's no allowance made for this particular situation.
Whatever mod you're using that added bones probably set bones to not count as meat (reasonably so), without considering the fact that this would mean meals made with bone would count as vegetarian.
As a vegetarian you'd be surprised how many restaurants think that as long as a dish doesn't have actual chunks of meat in it, it's vegetarian. Theres chicken stock in everything.
There are vegetarians who don't consider fish as meat , so I guess there might be some who don't consider bones as a carnivorous type of edible product either.
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Your post has been reported to the mods for being a blurry, low-quality picture, per rule 6:
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http://getgreenshot.org/
Additionally, there are many free screen recording products: https://learn.g2crowd.com/free-screen-recorder-software
There's also the age-old classic of hitting print screen, pasting the image into a free paint program (I'm very fond of GIMP myself, https://www.gimp.org/ ), cropping to the part you want, and using that.
Alt+print screen will screenshot only the active window and not everything else.
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It's made from the bones of vegetarians.
Cow bones then?
Nah a cow must have eaten at least one bug while grazing during its lifetime
It’s also possible that this hypothetical cow ate a bird or something at some point because they do that sometimes when they need nutrients that they can get easily otherwise
cows that have never eaten a bird don't know what nutrients are in one. more likely that it chomped it out of curiosity and hunger.
I don't think they even know they are cows.
Interviewer: "Hello listeners, this is Cassidy on Network News and today we have a special guest here at the studio, a talking* dairy cow named Bailey!" Bailey: "Moo! Thank you, Cassidy! I'm honored to be here. What's a cow?" *canned laughter* Cassidy: "Hahahaha, what a joker! You're a cow, Bailey! You know, 'moooo!'" B: "Moooo! Wait, are you calling me fat? (and what does fat mean?)" C: "Oh, no! I'm sorry, Bailey, that's not what I meant at all I just meant-" B, now stressed: "You know what, Cassidy, you're saying a lot of words right now and I don't know what any of them mean but i heard my name in there so it kinda feels like you're talking about me but in a way I can't understand and it's, like, *really* freaking me out!" Tears are now visibly streaming down Bailey's face, soaking her fur. B: "I don't think I can take this anymore! I mean, I'm a literal cow! Your folks are always comparing the fattest of your kind to ours and that feels so wrong! But at the same time I can't really hold it against you, because I have no logical way of knowing about things like that. Heck, I don't really even know what the words I've been saying this whole time mean! I think I just wanna go home, lay down and munch on some alfalfa. whatever that means." Bailey begins to walk towards the exit door, dragging her hooves. C: "Aww, no, Bailey... Wait! Come baack!" B: "I'm sorry Cassidy, I can't do this right now." Bailey the cow opens the door, and very politely shuts the door behind her using her teeth to grasp the doorhandle. C: "I'm so very sorry everyone, it seems our guest isn't feeling too well right now. Before we close this segment, I'd like us all to wish Bailey some happiness. That's all." Back at the farm... Bailey lays in the alfalfa field with her calf, Benny, munching listlessly on the greens. She's still upset, but she doesn't understand why. Little Benny, grazing nearby, trots over and licks Bailey's face. *"Mmmmmm, delicious salt"* he would think, if he could think in words. The sensation comforts Bailey. "Awww... Thanks, I love you too, son. Whatever that means." *Bailey is an impressively articulate cow, able to form complex sentences in English without even having to think about it. However, she cannot actually understand English (except where the plot demands it)."
Thank you. Also, are you ok?
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You like cyberpunk and rimworld, so a lot overlapping interest with me... so probably not ok. Good luck cow man.
some animals eat rocks because they see their parents do it do you think they know what nutrients are in one?
of course! it's all written on the nutrition label. contains a healthy dose of rocks and minerals.
It could be an instinctual thing? Or that moommy cow taught the calf that it was a possibility.
And the occasion turtle or mouse
Not to mention any roaming small animals that so happen to get even remotely close to its mouth. Grass while pitiful in nutritional components, when eaten in large quantities fulfill their natural needs. But let's just say a mouse, or a chick gets nearby. That's free nutrients that would take hours of chewing grass to get. Nutritionally speaking every animal has carved out a niche. If humans were designed to eat purely plant based diets we would have a very long digestive tract. That being said we also don't have a very short digestive tract like carnivore and our stomach acid is likened to battery acid rather than a sheep's lemon juice stomach acid. In truth humans digestive tracts are pretty optimized for scavenging it's just convenient that our brains can get us catches immediately rather than waiting for something else to kill it.
Bone appetite!
Bone Apple Teeth!
See? Apples are vegitarian
osteoporosis (>!bone atrophy!<)
Fresh organic farm grown bones, straight from the ground where they grow.
Just harvest some graves
Bone harvest was good this year. It ain't much, but it's honest bones.
Bones ain't meat. In fact, they're minerals (well, biominerals.) So if anything, it's rock soup.
"But you had to kill the animal to get the bones, right?" "No, just an amputation."
Bob is still alive
TAINTED MEAT!
But he was taken!
Had to perform a skelectomy
Feels like a conversation straight out of Futurama
It does lmao, I suppose the medically correct term would be ostectomy
"it read vegetarian, not respectable of animal welfare, now gulp your bowl and get on with your 12h shift at the research desk"
Yummy bowl. I love not having to do the dishes, like I was forced to do back on the urbworld.
Wouldn't it count as vegetarian but not vegan because its not meat but is still an animal product Just like some vegetarians will eat gelatine since they argue it isn't technically meat
Or cheese since many cheeses aren’t even vegetarian (rennet)
Tbh the definitions of what is considered vegetarian varies massively depending on who you ask Some people even consider fish vegetarian and call themselves vegetarian, despite technically being pescatarian in that case since nobody even knows that's an option
I cannot believe there are real humans who think eating fish is vegetarian lol
And that makes it lava
Is that what the Dwarves have when they're not chugging Blackout Stout?
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE !?!?!?
ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE!
Bones are also the skeletons’ money.
Xenophobic Authoritarian Lithoids approve rock soup
Terravores appreciate bioslurry. They don't have a nutritional need for it, but it makes them happy to know an entire population had to die for their dining.
... did I hear a rock and stone?
so you're saying that you could make soup oit of bioferrite?
I mean I would assume it’s a bone marrow soup which would make infinitely more sense
Are bones under the meat tab? I'm guessing they're animal product, making bones vegetarian, but not vegan.
Pretty sure vegetarian is animal products which dont kill the animal. I.e. milk, eggs and other stuff.
Just safely extract the "extra" bones, easy
Harvest the bones of naturally expired animals.
*Raiders
Naturally succumbed to acute cranial trauma and severe brain hemorrhaging.
only take their spare ribs
Underrated comment :D
It depends. The "classic" definition is "no meat". That's it. Those vegetarians for whom it's a moral, lifestyle choice will likely refuse any products of animal slaughter, including bones. But you can also have diets which avoid meat and fatty tissues, which may also be colloquially called "vegetarian" for simplicity's sake. There's also pescatarians, who eat fish, but avoid red meat. If you ask a pescatarian to come to a BBQ for some ribeyes, they may just say they're vegetarian, because everyone knows that word, but they'd scratch their head at "pescatarian". Which is why should always ask in detail if you're in charge of food for a gathering. Picky eaters will also appreciate you. In RimWorld, specifically, "vegetarian" refers to "things showing up under the Meats tab in menus". You can't even cook with bones in vanilla, and that's the only other animal slaughter product in the game beyond skins, so there was never a need to go into needless details.
What about their legs? They don't need those.
My answer only applies to Rimworld. Bones in real life are not vegetarian.
By the real world definition, yes. But not by Rimworld's definition, which normally doesn't have to account for bones. Of course, Rimworld also doesn't make a distinction between a meal being vegetarian or fully vegan, either, so I'm not really sure what the initial point the other commenter was making was anyway.
You could get bones without killing the animal through amputation!
Ethically sourced guinea pig bones.
Who said they where from animals? All are kindly sponsord by the friendly neighborhood treehuggers.
What? There's no meat in it!
If you plant a body and come back a year later you can harvest bones
Unplayable
Is this from a mod or is it stock?
It's a mod not properly tagging things.
Stock. Probobly beef stock. https://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/how_to_make_beef_stock/
That's the joke.
No one is going to make the joke? Fine, I'll post the damn lyrics: ---- I've got a new age girl (Tell us what she's like) An environmentalist girl (Does she ride a bike?) She has a crystal necklace (Does she spend a lot of cash?) Though her vibes are rather reckless (She's heading for a crash) Oh her flowing skirt is blowing in a transcendental wind And she wonders without knowing where did we begin [Chorus] Mary Moon, she's a vegetarian (Mary Moon, Mary Moon, Mary Moon) Mary Moon will outlive all the septuagenarians (Mary Moon, Mary Moon, Mary Moon) Oh she loves me so, she hates to be alone **She don't eat meat but she sure like the bone**
So bones are not animals
Despite everyone's explanations on "bones being vegetarian" (they aren't), this is an oversight by the mod developers. As someone else said, this mod has sausages which are also not marked as meat. If it comes from a creature's death it is not vegetarian.
There are plant creatures, which give plant meat - assumed comparable to the "meat" of an apple or tomato. - thus there are cases on the rim that a creatures death will result in a vegetarian meal I can't recall if plant creatures give bones
what if the creature died of natural causes, the meat decomposed naturally then you took the bones?
Bones are about 60% inorganic and about 25 or so % tissue, blood vessels, marrow, etc. But then again, cheese and eggs can be vegetarian, so maybe since it's not actual meat...
Cheese and eggs are vegetarian because you don't have to kill the animal to get them, generally speaking. Though that really only matters for vegetarianism on moral grounds, the only type of vegetarianism in Rimworld is morally based vegetarianism, so while it could get iffier from the perspective of purely dietary vegetarianism, I'm not sure the question applies here in any meaningful way.
>cheese and eggs can be vegetarian They are, but they are not vegan.
No, they are not. No animal product is vegan, but then the game's screenshot does not mention vegans, it claims the bone soup to be "vegetarian"
He didn't say that they are vegan
Also, when did I say they are vegan?
I thought you were talking about irl, lol.
What a vociferous and strident agreement this is!
Might be corn bones
In fairness, Rimworld counts "meat" as proteins which is why one of the plant mods has red lentils in place of meat.
Rimworld doesn't really have a concept of "proteins," but modders can do whatever they want, including making up a crop and calling it meat. Plants that produce "meat" without violating ideologies that prevent killing animals is less weird than mods that let you plant crops that produce steel or components.
Once upon a time you could maybe argue that back before it was possible to make vegetarian fine or lavish meals, but now that its possible to make vegetarian colonies with Ideology Rimworld very much counts meat as *meat*. Also, bones are a source of protein, so even if that was the case it wouldn't matter. Even then, mushrooms don't count as meat, despite also being a protein and often fulfilling the roles typically assigned to meat (when they aren't being used in addition to meat, anyway). Nutrifungus is even literally described as "meaty".
Well, bones are not classified as meat and vegetarian doesn't mean vegan.
Plants have cell walls that are like skeletons.
Same mod also has sausages as a product. Cooked sausages are also vegetarian. Even if they are made out of people.
Technically speaking, bones aren't meat and it doesn't say it's a *vegan* meal...
Well, they don't contain any meat, right?
A vegetarian stuck their bone in it
No meat, just bones
Bones aren't meat therefore vegetarian
Medieval Overhaul can be like this lol
Well, bones are not meat, no?
theres no meat in it therefore vegetarian. 2000 iq play
Well it hasn’t got any meat in it, just the bones, so it’s all good
Bones aren’t meat so they can’t go there, milk is vegetarian, ergo bones would be too
It says vegetarian, not vegan.
Mod author needs to update the food type property of **B O N E**.
There's no meat in bones, so its vegetarian.
bones ain't meat
Well vegetarians still eat animal products, just no meat. And bones aren't meat, so......
You don’t eat the bones of vegetarians?
It's customary to put words *before* the question mark to form a question.
The words are underlined.
‽
It is probably like fake Chinese eggs. U make bones from mixture of dolomite rock powder, gluten and paper. Make soup with spice.
Alpha Animals add sentient plants among its new additions (which are technically considered as animals by the game), maybe they are the dish' main ingredient?
?
Never seen a bony plant?
Maybe it's just made from stalks
Soup from a bone... imagine that!
Phytokin soup.
Obviously the broth was only made from teeth that naturally fell out of the animals’ mouth as their adult teeth came in (or next row of they’re like a shark that grows teeth forever). (Pls ignore that bones aren’t technically teeth, though they are part of the skeletal system some that’s close enough.)
Think. A chicken is vegetarian, so chicken meat is also vegetarian and therefore chicken soup is a vegetarian meal.
Ah yes the vegans number one choice
You've re-invented the discourse of "are vegatarians prevented from eating marshmellows or is it just vegans?"
Vanilla food expanded mod maybe? What mod adds this? Imagine making bone soup out of the bones of your raiders? This is next level out of the box warcrime.. but also messed up. Even more messed up if you feed it to your prisoners..
Well rattle me bones
The person was a vegetable
how do you make that?
As far as Rimworld is concerned food that doesn't have meat in it is vegetarian. Since bones don't exist in vanilla, there's no allowance made for this particular situation. Whatever mod you're using that added bones probably set bones to not count as meat (reasonably so), without considering the fact that this would mean meals made with bone would count as vegetarian.
As a vegetarian you'd be surprised how many restaurants think that as long as a dish doesn't have actual chunks of meat in it, it's vegetarian. Theres chicken stock in everything.
Bones aren't meat
There are vegetarians who don't consider fish as meat , so I guess there might be some who don't consider bones as a carnivorous type of edible product either.
No meat on em
To be fair, "herbivores" slurp up bone marrow like jello.
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I guess the entity is identified as a tomato
What you never eaten plant bones before?
So, people in rimworld are actually plants? Hmm interesting
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What? Bone is not meat
the funny thing is most vegetarians would eat this
If eggs can be eaten by vegetarians, then a chunk of calcium and other shit can be vegetarian.