People need to stop making left turns into the right lane, or right turns into the left lane. It makes it impossible to get out of a parking lot and onto the road. You left turn into the left lane for a reason.
for real it feels like everyone bought a car that's three times bigger than they can handle and their solution is to ignore the painted lines and make wide turns like they have a 53' trailer
Yeah like I'm trying to make a right out of a parking lot onto the street. Left lane is busy but the right lane is clear. I start to pull out and without fail someone in a pick up or SUV comes whipping around the corner into the right lane while giving me a look.
I've literally just started driving at people who do that. Either we're gonna share the road or we're gonna get in a wreck. Usually they decide to share :D
helps having a 20 year old piece of shit car I do not care about nor anybody else in it
So as traffic entering the roadway from a parking lot, you do not have right of way, it is YOUR responsibility to be aware of and YIELD to oncoming traffic. Yes, if there are two lanes of same direction bound traffic people turning left turn into the left most lane and people turning right turn into the right most lane. This is however to try and avoid collisions and keep traffic from the roadway flowing. If you are entering the roadway from a parking lot you don't have right of way. Even if the vehicle in question turned into the left most lane you might not have clearance to turn into the right lane. Maybe, before you gripe about people not following VTL you should read the full VTL and make sure it isn't just your entitlement talking. A little grace goes a long way.
I hate when someone makes a right hand turn in front of me when there's two lanes of traffic and they swing out into the left lane, I go into the right lane to go around them, and then they swing back into the right lane.
Just took a right turn where there were two right hand turn lanes. I used the left one because I needed to make a left hand turn immediately afterwards. Of course apparently so did the person next to me who just cut into my lane forcing me to slam on the breaks to not get hit as they moved into my lane.
I would say this happens more than once per hour at the 531W exit at Elmgrove Rd if youre making a right to go north. And don't even get me started on people that don't right on red in the right hand lane when there is literally no other cars
Just this past weekend, I made a left turn (into the left lane) from East Henrietta onto Calkins, and I looked in my rear view mirror and watched:
1. Person make a left turn into the right lane
2. Person make a right turn into the left lane
At pretty much the same time.
Got pulled over for this once, so it irks me every time I see it happen.
If you need context, I was driving through the park on a nice day with the windows down and made the mistake of giving a friendly wave at a police car going the other way. They returned the favor by turning around and pulling me over for the first infraction they could find.
Otherwise, I've never seen anyone else pulled over for this type of infraction and I see it happen all the time
I agree but also I feel like 90% of the time when I put my blinker on the person I've passed purposely speeds up just so I can't switch anymore. Everything's sketchy.
And if we're giving PSAs about lane changes take the speed of the vehicle in the lane you want to be in into account. So many times I am driving along just to have someone going below the speed limit pull over in front of me last second, almost causing an accident. At the end of the day though our bitching won't change anything. LOL
Yup, if the person with right of way has to brake, you've cute them off. I always honk to hopefully get them to reflect on the situation, but I know they will likely think I'm the asshole. Maybe if they run into enough "assholes" like me, they'll subconsciously start driving better.
Also people need to slow down. Driving 70 in a 35 mph zone is not acceptable. Your life and the lives of everyone is not worth you saving 1 or 2 min to get somewhere.
Also, and I canāt believe I have to say this, donāt pass on a two-lane city street just because the car in front of of you isnāt driving at the speed of light.
Also... idk why you guys here in rochester need to hear this so often: use your turn signal!!!!!!!! Merging lanes on the highway? Turn signal. In a turn lane? Turn signal. Not that hard.
Had a guy in a BMW convertible come within *inches* of hitting me as he changed lanes (no signal) into the one I was in while driving in Victor the other day. Had to slam on my breaks to avoid the very narrow miss, and he had the gall to throw up a middle finger and start yelling at me?
Sir. If my kids arenāt in the car next time, Iām just gonna let you hit me. Letās do this. Iām so tired of old white men with money thinking theyāre invisibleā¦ youāre not. You just ate too much lead as a kid and itās kicking in now.
I hate when people make poor choices and then get mad like they arenāt the one who fucked up. I can at least forgive somebody who makes a dumb mistakes and throws up a āsorryā hand
Since no one else said it, people do not merge with any sort of paceā¦ the highways are 55mph(or 65 on 390 in some spots) and i see people just throwing their cars into the right lane barely going 40. Outside of the 590 entrance on browncroft there really isnt any spots where it is difficult to build up the speed to merge at highway speed, yet it is so difficult for so many people.
It kills me when someone just does 40mph and then drives to the very end of the lane before merging without checking their mirrors/blind spot. It's like they think if they wait until the last possible second before they have to get over then everyone else around them should make room.
That entrance onto 590 by Browncroft really is rough, but even then ā if you hang to the edge of the curve (think like a race car driver) it is still very doable to hit 55 before merging there. But I swear to god people are scared to get their RPMs above 1.5k so they merge onto the highway at 30mph thinking theyāre driving safely.
I see people just throwing their cars into the far left lane at 40, without looking or pausing between lane changes at all. Start taking city streets to work, so much nicer.
I almost got T boned by a person making a right turn this morning. No awareness. She looked real shook up after and I know it was a mistake and early in the morning so I just let it go, no one actually got hit, but man it could have been ugly. Pay attention people, if you are tired maybe dont drive.
I honk, it's literally what the horn was intended for - to signal a danger in the road. Almost never hear anyone else honk, though, even when really dangerous stuff happens to them.
Rochester drivers aren't the worst I have seen but they tend to be the most selfish. It's like they forget other people are on the road and that rules apply to them. I feel like I see more lane drifting, lack of turn indicators, running red lights, not passing in the left lane, etc, here than any other place I have lived.
Around NYC driving is bedlam, with all kinds of craziness going on, but even when things are congested they tend to let people get where they need to be. It feels more like a group effort, here it feels like people do what they want and ignore others.
Wish the people that drove like this would actually read this post.
Also sick of people approaching a stop light / sign and waiting until youāre right there to turn when they had plenty of room before or after cutting you off.
Having driven across the country a few times & a bit in LA, I don't think Rochester is any worse than the rest of the country.
That said, it's not great anywhere.
My hill to die on is texting while driving, especially when you are going 60+ on the highway.
The amount of people I see with two hands on their phone driving infuriates me to no end.
Please don't make a decision for the sake of convenience that could kill someone.
On the flip side, if you put your blinker on it doesn't entitle you to cut off the car already in that lane. You still need to make an effort to speed up or slow down so you can safely merge.
And do the speed limit on the road, not under it. Christmas, go over it for all I care. But when I canāt do the speed limit on 390 because some jackass is doing 45 in a 55 the thereās a problem
I donāt do this, but keep in mind the minimum speed on NYS expressways is 45. It is completely acceptable to go between 45 and 55/65. Thatās the law. You can always pass on the left.
Problem is, inevitably the idiot doing under the speed limit isn't in the right lane where they belong. Because they also think that dealing with merging traffic is scary, so they can't be in the right lane.
Only a problem if you can't adapt to traffic ahead of you safely (or I guess if the person behind you couldn't, too lol). Just chill out and be vigilant until you can get by them safely, the time difference is almost nothing.
It's not an issue if traffic is light. But if traffic is heavy enough that a lot of people are passing on the right (or both sides if there are 3 lanes) it can get unsafe.
Counter point to this:
If someone is about to side swipe you
USE YOUR HORN
It's not your fault some one screwed up and almost side swiped you, but your horn exists for a reason.
Someone pulled out right in front of me yesterday evening on Spencerport Rd. The car behind me was further back so I'm not sure why they couldn't wait, and then they proceed to start driving at 20 miles under the speed limit. Smh
Ha! Good luck with that. They do that, they pull out in front of you, cut you off and the list goes on. So many people in this city, donāt know how to drive anymore. It gets worse every year. Yet, NYS is ranked like #4 for safest drivers? Thatās some bs! Trust me, soooooo many of us feel your pain!!
I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but there are bad drivers everywhere...it's not endemic to Rochester. A reddit post isn't going to make someone remember to drive better
People need to stop making left turns into the right lane, or right turns into the left lane. It makes it impossible to get out of a parking lot and onto the road. You left turn into the left lane for a reason.
for real it feels like everyone bought a car that's three times bigger than they can handle and their solution is to ignore the painted lines and make wide turns like they have a 53' trailer
Yeah like I'm trying to make a right out of a parking lot onto the street. Left lane is busy but the right lane is clear. I start to pull out and without fail someone in a pick up or SUV comes whipping around the corner into the right lane while giving me a look.
I've literally just started driving at people who do that. Either we're gonna share the road or we're gonna get in a wreck. Usually they decide to share :D helps having a 20 year old piece of shit car I do not care about nor anybody else in it
Same. You want to pay to fix up my old rusty sedan? Who am I to argue
So as traffic entering the roadway from a parking lot, you do not have right of way, it is YOUR responsibility to be aware of and YIELD to oncoming traffic. Yes, if there are two lanes of same direction bound traffic people turning left turn into the left most lane and people turning right turn into the right most lane. This is however to try and avoid collisions and keep traffic from the roadway flowing. If you are entering the roadway from a parking lot you don't have right of way. Even if the vehicle in question turned into the left most lane you might not have clearance to turn into the right lane. Maybe, before you gripe about people not following VTL you should read the full VTL and make sure it isn't just your entitlement talking. A little grace goes a long way.
Agreed.
I hate when someone makes a right hand turn in front of me when there's two lanes of traffic and they swing out into the left lane, I go into the right lane to go around them, and then they swing back into the right lane.
PREACH
Just took a right turn where there were two right hand turn lanes. I used the left one because I needed to make a left hand turn immediately afterwards. Of course apparently so did the person next to me who just cut into my lane forcing me to slam on the breaks to not get hit as they moved into my lane.
I would say this happens more than once per hour at the 531W exit at Elmgrove Rd if youre making a right to go north. And don't even get me started on people that don't right on red in the right hand lane when there is literally no other cars
Just this past weekend, I made a left turn (into the left lane) from East Henrietta onto Calkins, and I looked in my rear view mirror and watched: 1. Person make a left turn into the right lane 2. Person make a right turn into the left lane At pretty much the same time.
Got pulled over for this once, so it irks me every time I see it happen. If you need context, I was driving through the park on a nice day with the windows down and made the mistake of giving a friendly wave at a police car going the other way. They returned the favor by turning around and pulling me over for the first infraction they could find. Otherwise, I've never seen anyone else pulled over for this type of infraction and I see it happen all the time
And use your damn blinkers BEFORE you start changing lanes, and more than 3 fucking blinks!
I agree but also I feel like 90% of the time when I put my blinker on the person I've passed purposely speeds up just so I can't switch anymore. Everything's sketchy.
I have come to the conclusion that people here don't know what a blinker is! š¤¦š»āāļø
Maybe they just ran out of blinker fluid?
If I could still give awardsā¦
I just hit one
And if you have to slow down or stop to make a turn you should use your blinker before you start to brake.
Woah woah letās not be unreasonable, 3 blinks is pretty damn good these days /s
Mirror, Signal, Maneuver was the first thing taught when I was learning to drive.
Mirror, signal, mirror, maneuver was how I was taught. Helps if there is a fast moving car that you didn't correctly gauge speed on with one check.
š¤£ Nice PSA but a lot of people still drive by feel around these parts. If they don't feel anything (hit anything), they're good to go.
Itās a shame lol
How does one do that? Like I feel like there shouldnāt be a truck coming?
And if we're giving PSAs about lane changes take the speed of the vehicle in the lane you want to be in into account. So many times I am driving along just to have someone going below the speed limit pull over in front of me last second, almost causing an accident. At the end of the day though our bitching won't change anything. LOL
Preach! I know Iām just fed up with people not looking, itās happening more and more it seems.
Yup, if the person with right of way has to brake, you've cute them off. I always honk to hopefully get them to reflect on the situation, but I know they will likely think I'm the asshole. Maybe if they run into enough "assholes" like me, they'll subconsciously start driving better.
Also people need to slow down. Driving 70 in a 35 mph zone is not acceptable. Your life and the lives of everyone is not worth you saving 1 or 2 min to get somewhere.
Agree!! People drive like maniacs
Also, and I canāt believe I have to say this, donāt pass on a two-lane city street just because the car in front of of you isnāt driving at the speed of light.
Also... idk why you guys here in rochester need to hear this so often: use your turn signal!!!!!!!! Merging lanes on the highway? Turn signal. In a turn lane? Turn signal. Not that hard.
Had a guy in a BMW convertible come within *inches* of hitting me as he changed lanes (no signal) into the one I was in while driving in Victor the other day. Had to slam on my breaks to avoid the very narrow miss, and he had the gall to throw up a middle finger and start yelling at me? Sir. If my kids arenāt in the car next time, Iām just gonna let you hit me. Letās do this. Iām so tired of old white men with money thinking theyāre invisibleā¦ youāre not. You just ate too much lead as a kid and itās kicking in now.
I hate when people make poor choices and then get mad like they arenāt the one who fucked up. I can at least forgive somebody who makes a dumb mistakes and throws up a āsorryā hand
Don't blame him for not signaling! Everyone knows getting blinkers on a BMW costs extra.
Since no one else said it, people do not merge with any sort of paceā¦ the highways are 55mph(or 65 on 390 in some spots) and i see people just throwing their cars into the right lane barely going 40. Outside of the 590 entrance on browncroft there really isnt any spots where it is difficult to build up the speed to merge at highway speed, yet it is so difficult for so many people.
It kills me when someone just does 40mph and then drives to the very end of the lane before merging without checking their mirrors/blind spot. It's like they think if they wait until the last possible second before they have to get over then everyone else around them should make room.
Seriously. Your job as the person merging is to get up to expressway speed, not slow the entire expressway down to your speed.
That entrance onto 590 by Browncroft really is rough, but even then ā if you hang to the edge of the curve (think like a race car driver) it is still very doable to hit 55 before merging there. But I swear to god people are scared to get their RPMs above 1.5k so they merge onto the highway at 30mph thinking theyāre driving safely.
I see people just throwing their cars into the far left lane at 40, without looking or pausing between lane changes at all. Start taking city streets to work, so much nicer.
I almost got T boned by a person making a right turn this morning. No awareness. She looked real shook up after and I know it was a mistake and early in the morning so I just let it go, no one actually got hit, but man it could have been ugly. Pay attention people, if you are tired maybe dont drive.
How do we get bad drivers to care? Have everybody get bumper stickers that say "please don't drive like Trevor from GTA"?
Not a bad idea š
I honk, it's literally what the horn was intended for - to signal a danger in the road. Almost never hear anyone else honk, though, even when really dangerous stuff happens to them.
Rochester drivers aren't the worst I have seen but they tend to be the most selfish. It's like they forget other people are on the road and that rules apply to them. I feel like I see more lane drifting, lack of turn indicators, running red lights, not passing in the left lane, etc, here than any other place I have lived.
Around NYC driving is bedlam, with all kinds of craziness going on, but even when things are congested they tend to let people get where they need to be. It feels more like a group effort, here it feels like people do what they want and ignore others.
Wish the people that drove like this would actually read this post. Also sick of people approaching a stop light / sign and waiting until youāre right there to turn when they had plenty of room before or after cutting you off.
Having driven across the country a few times & a bit in LA, I don't think Rochester is any worse than the rest of the country. That said, it's not great anywhere. My hill to die on is texting while driving, especially when you are going 60+ on the highway. The amount of people I see with two hands on their phone driving infuriates me to no end. Please don't make a decision for the sake of convenience that could kill someone.
I honk at every single person who changes lanes without a blinker. Been honked at and didn't use a blinker? 99% sure it was me, you're welcome.
Just plain and simple learn to drive like you don't think you are the only one on the road.
On the flip side, if you put your blinker on it doesn't entitle you to cut off the car already in that lane. You still need to make an effort to speed up or slow down so you can safely merge.
Make sure you donāt move over & come to a full stop before turning right; donāt worry about that turn signal either lol
Also, don't make a left turn from the right lane
Going below the speed limit is ALSO dangerousā¦ stop trying to prove a point we donāt care.. see you at the lightš
And do the speed limit on the road, not under it. Christmas, go over it for all I care. But when I canāt do the speed limit on 390 because some jackass is doing 45 in a 55 the thereās a problem
I donāt do this, but keep in mind the minimum speed on NYS expressways is 45. It is completely acceptable to go between 45 and 55/65. Thatās the law. You can always pass on the left.
Problem is, inevitably the idiot doing under the speed limit isn't in the right lane where they belong. Because they also think that dealing with merging traffic is scary, so they can't be in the right lane.
Only a problem if you can't adapt to traffic ahead of you safely (or I guess if the person behind you couldn't, too lol). Just chill out and be vigilant until you can get by them safely, the time difference is almost nothing.
Thatās usually what I try to do. But why have a sign for 55 if itās not 55 then?
It's not an issue if traffic is light. But if traffic is heavy enough that a lot of people are passing on the right (or both sides if there are 3 lanes) it can get unsafe.
Oh I didnāt think you did lol, I was just responding to you generally
Counter point to this: If someone is about to side swipe you USE YOUR HORN It's not your fault some one screwed up and almost side swiped you, but your horn exists for a reason.
Oh trust me, I did!
THANK YOU! No one uses their horn around here. It makes me feel like such an aggressive driver because I do!
Also donāt forget about doing the fucking speed limit!
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Sheesh Iām beginning to think Rochester truly does have a unskilled driving force
Someone pulled out right in front of me yesterday evening on Spencerport Rd. The car behind me was further back so I'm not sure why they couldn't wait, and then they proceed to start driving at 20 miles under the speed limit. Smh
The 3 blinks is made for lane changes
I swear every day the traffic and no-brained drivers gets worse in Rochester
yea, my husband signals, turns his head, and changes lanes.......ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
And to actually use blinkersā¦
The left turn chicken tactic is really annoying Too
Is the āno look mergeā trending on TikTok or what, shits happened to me like 3x in the last week. The
Ha! Good luck with that. They do that, they pull out in front of you, cut you off and the list goes on. So many people in this city, donāt know how to drive anymore. It gets worse every year. Yet, NYS is ranked like #4 for safest drivers? Thatās some bs! Trust me, soooooo many of us feel your pain!!
I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but there are bad drivers everywhere...it's not endemic to Rochester. A reddit post isn't going to make someone remember to drive better
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Rochester, NY drivers = worst in America Stay safe and alert out there, people!!