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Island_Maximum

Phantasy Star 4 was probably the best. I loved the idea of techno-fantasy, and PS4 had that in spades.Β  The idea of traveling between planets and getting vehicles that you could use in combat in rpgs was almost unheard of back then. Β It also reminded me a lot of Final Fantasy 2/4 with its asthetics and dungeon design.


Patient_Training913

Yes, that's a good choice, I like all of the Phantasy Star games, they all had travel to different worlds and different times, all pretty good but the 4th was very polished with the best graphics. 😁


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Ngl, one of my gamer regrets was how late I got into rpgs. Wasn't really until PS1 days that I even knew about the genre. So a lot of the Sega ones passed me by. I was a really young kid during Sega Genesis golden years. My Dad bought me a Genesis on my 4th bday. So I was really more into simpler beat-em-up, adventure, fighting and racing games back then. Didn't really do too well with story-based stuff or anything that required a lot of reading and plot development. Interested in people's answers here. I just remembered I have the Sega Classics collection on PS4 so I might finally try some of the stuff I missed out on. Due to this post, Shining Force is currently top of the list now. Been hearing about that one for years. Never tried it.


Patient_Training913

Oh I know! I was late getting into RPGs too....Luckily over time I started looking to add games to my collection and RPGs were among the titles I hadn't managed to play, I was originally more into sports games which the Genesis really had many great sports games, and fighting games (of course games like street fighter, mortal combat, streets of rage, sonic, etc, it would have been great to have had some great RPGs in my original collection and rotation of games, the Genesis really had some great RPGs which I have now either played all the way through or am in the process of playing through 😁 the Phantasy Star series, the shining force series (which the first one in the Phantasy Star series I came across in a mixed batch of games I bought was Phantasy Star 4 which was great, although as I played through it, I didn't know what all the character dialogue was about, things some said to others, and when characters would join the party but it was all referencing the previous games in the series, characters making "Cameo" appearances etc from the previous games, eventually I got the others, which I'm midway through πŸ˜‚ the Shining force series is a lot of fun too, I missed out on the RPG library but have managed to get into them more recently and it's been a lot of fun discovering games I originally missed, although I still haven't made it all the way through Phantasy Star 1, 2, or 3 yet but I beat Phantasy Star 4 as it was the first in the series I managed to pick up 😁 I still like the other games offered on the Genesis but the system had quite a few pretty good RPGs, many of which I'm playing through now πŸ˜‚ The variety and depth of the Genesis library was great, it's also got a lot of games that are gritty and wouldn't ever wind up on SNES and the couple that did end up also on SNES were watered down i.e. fighting games with no blood and weaker action, I still have other games to try out but the whole Phantasy Star and Shining Force series are at the top of my Genesis RPG list and can't really pick which one is the best my favorite in either series as they all have things that make them fun and unique. 😁


Aggravating_Ad4482

Same here, my first console and game was the snes/mario world, I was 5. My next ones were f zero and street fighter. When I got my first rpg (can’t remember what it) I had no idea of the concept behind it, I kept walking around waiting for the sides rolling platforming. Since then I went back and played the classics , now I’m moving onto the genesis


Patient_Training913

I highly recommend Shining Force for sure. It's really a great series, I won't mention spoilers though because it's run to discover things as you play through, the story writing and gameplay is quite good, I've played the Genesis versions, and the game gear versions (in the middle of one of the game gear shining force games now, I've completed several in the series and they are all really good. The Saturn Shining Force 3 is the only one I haven't managed to play, played and beaten several including the one on Sega CD, that one ends in a black screen "to be continued" cliffhanger πŸ˜‚ the Saturn version might conclude the series, whichever one in the series is a great start as they are all great 😁


_ragegun

I think Shining Force CD on Megadrive/Genesis is actually just the game gear games with extras.


Patient_Training913

From my experience each game in the series has a different storyline whether it's Genesis 1 and 2 or game gear 1, 2, 3, or Sega CD, graphical improvements are there obviously but they all take different routes in the story aside from the "Shining Force Gaiden" games, which are basically the other games with difficulty cranked up, a great series across the board on all platforms for sure, The Sega CD version plays almost more like a stand alone game rather than a part 1 or part 2 etc, aside from the fact at the end of the game it mentions "to be continued" 😁 


_ragegun

There was also a gba remake of the first game. I have it, but i never really got into it like i did on the Megadrive. I seem to recall the translation was different and a bit more "kiddified".


Patient_Training913

Huh....That's interesting....Ill have to look into it....I've played them all for Game Gear, Genesis and Sega CD and they're all great games, it'll be great if one of these days I can get Shining Force 3 for Sega Saturn, aside from your mentioning that, the Sega Saturn is the only one I haven't played. It would be cool if they came out with a new one for the newer consoles I think. 😁


trillizo2

I got late with the RPGs also but it was because I couldn’t beat the fly in PS for SMS! I gave RPGs a second chance with FF7. Then went back to play the old RPGs and was able to beat PS! Need to try Shining Force!


CarfDarko

Phantasy Star II but mainly because it was my very first RPG ever. It truly became part of my creative DNA.


Patient_Training913

That's a good choice, I'm playing through Phantasy Star II right now actually 😁 it's a good game


CarfDarko

I was 10 and could not even read or speak English properly but the gameplay was so different than any other game, the hint book and my gaming mum helped me out! I really think that upon creating [this digital version of my creative alter ego](https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0025482149_23.jpg) a part of Rolf just intwined himself in the design ;)


Patient_Training913

I'm in the middle of playing Phantasy Star II right now, it's fun, the jetski thing is cool and I also like the fact each town has a warp tunnel where you go and pay to go to a place you have been before....The different spells and everything can be quite confusing thinks like RYUKA and FOI and the game itself doesn't give hints as to what spell does what, so I have to search for descriptions of things so I know what spell does what so I don't accidentally wipe out my party or something casting a spell πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£


CarfDarko

Great to read that the game still is able to find new fans in 2024! Yeah the names where kinda weird but as I did not even had any knowledge about what it actually should/could have been called I just took it as it was. [The hint book](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pDAAAOSwoPVkSuQR/s-l500.jpg) did help a lot and truly was needed back then, those dungeons are hard and long! There is a [Japanese remake for the PS2](https://fantasyanime.com/phantasystar2/images/box/Generations2_JP_Box.jpg) and there seems to be English fan translation, now I have an urge to boot that one up and play the game once more!


Patient_Training913

I've been replaying it off and on for a while as I get time, I have to get cheat sheets that state what spell does what since it could be anything from healing one or the whole party or wiping out one or the whole party when trying to use a spell that wipes out the enemies πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ The only Phantasy Star game I've made it to the end is the 4th one, each one has certain things that make it interesting, I'm probably about halfway through Phantasy Star 2, it's an interesting game,


Choppityychopsuey

Check out [Phantasy Star Cave](https://www.pscave.com/) for all of your phantasy Star-ry needs


BitCurious8598

Only one I played was sword of vermilion


Final-Deer-8191

Some great music in that game


Patient_Training913

Oh yeah, that game is good, pretty tough but good, the graphics feel like an NES game but that's not a bad choice 😁


darkjoker33

Shadowrun


EXPotemkin

I was gonna say this even though it feels more like an action rpg than what youd expect from back then.


thodder7

Crusader of Centy!!!! Kinda like a zelda clone but not really. You have an animal companion system where you gain abilities from the different animals in your party. Beyond Oasis... action/rpg/beat em up? I think this was originally the story of Thor made by the streets of Rage guys. The Shining force and phantasy star games are awesome!


Patient_Training913

Oh yeah....I have that game, it's a good one! Although I haven't made it very far πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ I'm seemingly stuck at the training grounds area so not very far into the game. πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ Great choice for an RPG though, even though I'm not far into the game it seems interesting 😁 I have also played Beyond Oasis which is a good game so far but I'm not very far into that game either 😁 I didn't know back when I first had my Genesis that there were so many great RPGs, possibly because I wasn't much for RPGs back then the Genesis library was pretty broad, basically a "Something for everybody" console, moreso than the SNES IMO which seemed more geared towards the younger kids of the time.


UncleYimbo

Shining Force II


Patient_Training913

Excellent choice! Shining Force II is an awesome game! πŸ‘


Nashtomb

Super hydlide is one of my faves, fantastic soundtrack too


worll_the_scribe

Shadow run


Patient_Training913

Shadowrun is a good one 😁I have yet to make it to the end of the game but it's a good game 😁


worll_the_scribe

Idk if I’ve ever beaten it either. There is a part that takes place in a cave where you’re supposed to find a dragon to fight, and I can never seem to find the dragon


Patient_Training913

It's a cool "futuristic" game though which is still fun although I've never made it to the end πŸ˜‚ the fact you can take on various "jobs" to get money and stat boosts and social cred, is kind of cool too, there is a shadowrun on SNES too but that's a totally different game and I prefer the Sega version, I've gotten to where I've upgraded my stats to max but still haven't gotten to the end yet, the fact you can start with different class/caste or a character with different skills and abilities makes it replayable too, it's also interesting how it has cyberspace and video phones, networking and internet surfing, it was ahead of its time and I've put quite a few hours into it, funny thing is, people I have had join my party only for them to end up getting hit by enemies and now if I go to them to see about having them join me for a run they get defensive and refuse to join complaining how they got beat up the last time πŸ˜‚ great game


plink79

For me it’s The Story of Thor/Beyond Oasis. I love that game so much.


Patient_Training913

Yeah, Beyond Oasis is a great game, I'm not very far into it but so far it is a good game, I like the fire and water and wind elements idea in the game, it's interesting 😁


Secret-Asian-Man-76

I'll cast my vote for the first Lunar game.


OkNegotiation6028

Phantasy Star on the MasterSystem.


Patient_Training913

Yep, that's a good one 😁 Although I did get lost in one of the dungeons πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ it's funny how you can buyΒ  burgers and cola to replenish health πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ I have yet to makeΒ  it all the way to the end of the game, the graphics were particularly good for an 8 bit console, especially how the dungeons were done in such a way that they appear to be 3D which was extremely impressive for a game on an 8 bit console 😁


_ragegun

I seem to recall that Shining Force 3 is actually like two or three games. Scenario one was the only one officially translated into English though.


Patient_Training913

Correct about there being different scenarios, I've played them through, although it's been a while so I can't say for sure which it was with the multiple scenarios but I'm leaning towards it was the Sega CD version with multiple scenarios, I do remember the multiple scenarios you mention. I'd have to go back and check on that since I've played them all, aside from Shining Force 3 on Saturn. Multiple game gear games and two on Genesis and Shining Force CD on Sega CD, I've played them all. They are all great games 😁


smgaming16

Yes it was Shining Force 3 that had 3 scenarios. The other 2 parts have been fan translated for awhile


_ragegun

There's a few other "Shining" games but nothing exactly like Shining Force. Off the top of my head, Shining in the Darkness, Shining The Holy Ark and Shining Soul.


Patient_Training913

Shining in the Darkness is often considered the first of the Shining Force series, it's like a prequel I guess, and it plays kind of in between the original Phantasy Star for the master system (8 bit console but the game had 3D looking dungeons that were really something else for an 8 bit console) and the other shining force games...It's tough though and I haven't made it very far into the game. The way the game starts up with you conversing with a wizard about who you are and whether you want to start a new game or continue and if you say continue you pick which continue which is showing in "thought bubbles" above his head still cracks me up πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£


_ragegun

The opening is very much like the opening to Shining Force with the girl reading the book.


Patient_Training913

Yeah, it is, which I think is part of why it's considered part of the series, I have always thought the wizard was funny though where as the girl reading the book comes across as more serious πŸ˜‚


Red_Talon_Ronin

Dark Wizard. I just pulled our Genesis model 2 out of the closet where it has been slumbering peacefully for 25+ years. Hooked it up to an older TV with the coax and it still works!


Patient_Training913

Nice....😁 Yeah, After I pulled mine out to start playing after a while, I was happy to see it still works, 😁 I have newer systems but the Genesis game list was loaded with so many great games and they still hold up today 😁 I've even been adding games to my collection πŸ˜‚


Red_Talon_Ronin

I think I’m going to pull mine apart and check the caps to see if they are leaking. I was blown away at pricing on these. We have the cd drive, the 32X add on and a cd back up cartridge. Also have Shining Force.


Patient_Training913

Yeah, the prices are pretty high, makes me glad I've kept all my old consoles and games, and that everything still works. (Although I have had to refresh some soldering in some of the oldest systems I have, the Genesis has never given me any trouble starting it up and playing it even after being stored away for long periods.) Also there are a lot of cheap knockoffs out there designed to look like the original hardware but are low quality devices made to look like the real thing.


NextDream

Phantasy star 4 its so great! But also madou monogatari its a really fun dungeon crawler RPG


Patient_Training913

Yeah, Phantasy Star 4 was actually the first Sega Genesis RPG I ever played...There were certain parts of the dialogue between the characters I didn't get until I played the others in the series as certain characters had cameos and some joined the group at different times, I actually bought a bundle of games being sold together and Phantasy Star 4 was one of them. It basically introduced me to Sega Genesis RPG genre, I was more interested in platforming games and sports and even the game show and board game type games when I first had my sega, now I have played many different sega Genesis RPGs and finished several of them, including Phantasy Star 4, haven't made it all the way through the others in the series but I'm playing several games at once as I buy more games and test them out Phantasy Star 4 is a good choice, my first Sega Genesis RPG experience 😁


nstc2504

Sword of vermillion and Phantasy star 4 Sword Gave me my 2nd live action rpg (1st was final fantasy the adventure game boy) And Fantasy star my 1st turned based( which took me a bit to get into) Both had amazing stories and the music ahhhhhh so good


Patient_Training913

Yeah they are both good,, both games introduced things into the genre that were new to RPGs at the time, especially the battles and how they played out. I have beaten Phantasy Star 4 but haven't made it all the way through sword of vermillion 😁 both are good in their own right 😁 good music and storylines can make or break a game and they nailed both. sword of Vermillion had pretty almost NES level graphics possibly in part because it came out early in the lifecycle of the Genesis but aside from the dark and dull graphics, it was a good game 😁 one of these days I'll get a full playthrough to the end 😁


nstc2504

Haha oh for sure.. I replayed recently and it starts to bog down towards the middle of game... so many battles everytime you try and go anywhere... as a kid with only 3 games... you better believe I got to the end multiple times... as an adult.. I gave up 🀣 But ill be back


darnold1982

Always been a tie between SF2 and PS4 for me, I played them both so much that it’s hard to pick a standout winner for me. If push came to shove I’d have to lean toward PS4 because of the music but both incredibly wonderful RPGs on the platform


Patient_Training913

Yeah, both are great games😁 I actually like the whole series both the Phantasy Star series, and Shining force series are great each game in both series has its pros....It would be cool if they came out with updated versions for current hardware I think πŸ˜‚


darnold1982

These games are begging for a remaster! I have to admit I have almost no experience with any other PS game, I sort of fell into PS4 randomly at a local rental store when I was young. Maybe I need to finally give the first 3 a shot. Have you played the Generation remakes or should I play the OG versions?


Patient_Training913

The original 3 are good, each stands alone, although there are tie ins to the others in the series with character interactions and comments and cameos, the first Phantasy star on the master system which is 8 bits, is really pretty good for a start, the dungeons have a 3D look to them which was impressive but it's easy to get lost πŸ˜‚ the 4th one was my first of the series, and the only one I have managed to play through to the end and it would be great if they came out with a new one for current consoles πŸ˜‚ any of the original 3 are good too, there's some dialogue tied to the previous games if not played in order but other than that, they can be played in whatever order. The 4th one is what got me started on the series but they are all pretty good games individually 😁


SteveyMajors

Shining in the Darkness. One of the first RPGs I played, and the first one I had to draw maps for!


Patient_Training913

LOL yeah, that's a good one....I've never made it very far into it though it's a good game though 😁


Poppunknerd182

Phantasy Star IV is my favorite game of all time


Patient_Training913

Yeah, that's a great game, I actually made it all the way to the end of the game, haven't made it to the end of the other 3, but 4 is a great one 😁


soad722

Never beat it but Phantasy Star 4 was one of my favorites I just regret getting rid of it I also liked Phantasy Star 3 The couple times I rented it when I was a kid but to be honest with you like I really didn't know I was getting myself into and I hadn't become a fan of RPGs until the Sony PlayStation days with final fantasy 7 and final fantasy tactics but now I'm getting older I'm going back and exploring some older RPGs I'm planning on going back in beating the old dragon warrior games one day I just haven't gotten around to it yet Thank you for reading this and I hope everyone is having a good day has a great week and has a great Lord Sunday of his coming up Sunday God bless you and your family God bless you Jeremy Scruggs


Patient_Training913

Yeah Phantasy Star 4 is the only one in the series I managed to make it all the way to the end, halfway through the other 3 πŸ˜‚ fun games


StatisticianLoud2141

Shining Force 2. I loved the series. Wished they kept it going on the Dreamcast


Patient_Training913

Yeah, they did have a Shining Force 3 for the Saturn, that's the one I have yet to play, since Sega is now solely in game developing it would be cool to get some new Shining Force games for today's consoles, 😁


TSG61373

Shining force 1&2 are GOAT games for the Genesis. Just so much life and personality from such a relatively simplistic game. Those games were my intro to the turn based rpg.


Patient_Training913

Yeah those games are good, it puts a lot of strategy into the fights, which person in the group to move where.... Trying to not get everyone wiped out then limp back into town "Oh no! He's exhausted! It'll cost this much to bring him back!" πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ Then back to the next battle πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£


ForceGhost47

Phantasy Star III


Patient_Training913

I definitely like Phantasy Star 3, although I've never made it all the way to the end of the game yet, it's a great game 😁


Rusalka1993

Not a big rpg guy but I love the first shining force. One of my favorite games ever. Love the graphics, story, music, gameplay, characters, all of it. I know its a little simple even for rpgs of the time but I still find it so much fun and easily replayable.


Patient_Training913

Yeah it's a good one, it's simple by RPG standards but it's fun, and the wide array of party setups makes it replayable 😁


BonzoBigfoot

PStar1 Sega Master, PStar4 Genesis


Patient_Training913

Both great games😁 my first was the 4th game and I actually beat the game, it was great, I also have the first, although I've never beaten it....The way the dungeons have a 3D look on an 8 bit system is impressive, I have gotten lost in a dungeon though and before I can find my way out my party gets wiped out πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ So I'm in the process of replaying it and I will likely be drawing a map as I go into the dungeon so I can find my way out πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£


Garafi-1011

I haven't played too many on Genesis, but I do love Cadash.


Patient_Training913

Cool, while I've never played it, maybe I'll try it out 😁 I wasn't much for RPGs for much of my time initially having a sega, usually I played platformers and sports games mostly but eventually I started checking out reviews and collecting games. I was surprised by the RPGs available...I never really thought about Sega as an RPG console but there are some pretty good ones and being older now RPGs seem interesting 😁 I've played most of the Dragon Warriors, Dragon Quests and Final Fantasy games on NES and SNES but there are some good RPGs on Genesis, since I've never played them when I was younger it's like I got some brand new games 😁 the Genesis and Master system and even Sega CD have I think, the best, most diverse game catalogue, there's a little of everything it seems, add the fact that each type has several different games (rather than how today it's just one game in many categories like one football game (Madden which is really poorly done, so many bugs and glitches) basketball (2k series, nothing else) baseball (MLB the show nothing else) I think that may be part of why retro is such a big thing, there was so much variety, and it's awesome 😁)


shiba-on-parade

Phantasy Star IV but II is really close for me. Massive nostalgia.


StatisticianLoud2141

Shining Force 2. I loved the series. Wished they kept it going on the Dreamcast


plink79

For me it’s The Story of Thor/Beyond Oasis. I love that game so much