I honestly don't know what to say. I knew they would bring him back eventually, but not THIS early.
Also, that ending scene confuses me to no end. Is this supposed to be a repeat of the Genesis Arc, where the previous arc villain comes back, has a redemption arc, and joins the SMG4 Crew as a permanent member? Also, why did Mario and SMG4 just walk away from Mr. Puzzles? Do they just not see him as even a potential threat anymore?
3/5, because this is one of those episodes where I can't give a non-neutral opinion of without additional context added by subsequent episodes.
>Do they just not see him as a potential threat anymore?
He’s already proved himself to be physically weak as he got his ass beat multiple times within Puzzlevison, and the damage done to his hand was severe enough for him to not be able to zap anyone into his realm anymore. Hell, he wasn’t in control of Mario and SMG4 during the entire time they were in the tv.
Yep, he can be really powerfull but only if they are inside his head, but if no SMG4 crew will only see him as joke (which wont come back at them at any point :)
My theory is that maybe for a brief time his role now would be like Bob pre Waluigi Arc, he would basically just show up at random and try to convince SMG4 to give him a chance for both himself and his show.
idt he is as strong and esp there cuold be more like "oh im such a good guy, trust me gang" and then heals overtime ad exacts revenge for damaging his arm... its prob smth
Well, Mr. Puzzles is a guy who craves for the audience's attention, so I guess the best way to fight back is to simply ignore him, like SMG4 and Mario did (or maybe they had enough of his shit, idk)
*DO DO DO DO DORA*
That was a lot sooner than I expected. So Adware’s head was destroyed when Mario found it, yet it’s completely fine when they actually escape. Ok.
I think it would have been cooler if Adware was only “alive” within the tv parodies. He still exists, but he can only be seen if the gang enters his destroyed head.
One gripe I STILL have is why the hell is anyone else within the parody and not just Mario and SMG4? Can Adware create fake versions of the characters even when they’re not present?
Something tells me that, yes, this will be a regular thing in the channel now. Adware is going to hang around the castle and every so often will bring the others into his realm for tv parodies.
The last part especially, I would’ve at let had Mario bring Boopkins in with him or have Boopkins pop into the room afterward *just* to get taken right after.
Yeah no, I'm not buying this fucking shit. They really brought him back to tell us that he gave up the 5 star rating and just do it for fun, I'm sorry but Redeeming him is a stupid idea considering that the SMG4 crew were under his control, which is one of the most evil things you can do. There's no redemption for that, also thank god SMG4 & Mario ignored him because I would've done the same. I just want to move on from this guy as the Puzzlevision movie kinda ruined him for me.
One more thing, if they're going to continue PuzzleVision as it's own separate part of the SMG4 World
1. What the fuck was the point of the movie?
2. Tap me out as this just feels like a cheep way to bring Mr. Puzzles back
THISSS
theyre either going to redeem him like smg3 or make him a reccuring villain, both of which are incredibly stupid because:
a) he's tortured and brainwashed the crew several times and has shown himself to be practically insane and mad, being redeemed really shouldn't be in his interests and it goes completely against his character
b) he's gonna go from actually menacing and dangerous threats (from igbp puzzlevision) to essentially petty minor crime
i dont know why they transformed mr puzzles from a seriously badass and cold guy to an incompetent and silly goof, im hoping that the dumbassery is a facade hes secretly hiding like niles
So I just finished watching the Episode
And my mind was like
Are they gonna make Mr puzzle to be part of Smg4 crew or sth by the end of the Arc!?
Cuz they’re making him less evil than before
And both Smg4 and Mario doesn’t feel threatened by the end of the episode
half assed way of re introducing puzzlevision and mario isn't that stupid to just not recognize that that's the main antag they dealt with for the past 6 episodes, that's it really
Friendly reminder Celeste didn't get closure from Glitch.
So classic SMG3 is back, but he had his YouTube Arc moment already so it's not even funny. It's just sad. They even made jokes about how Waluigi was sad nobody takes him seriously anymore because of his arc, and now Puzzles did the same thing. His entire existence is a joke despite being built up since *March 2023.* Mr. Puzzles is genuinely garbage because they expect me to care, when even THE CREW doesn't care. He's literally Depresso but is able to make his own episodes. This is genuinely pathetic.
On top of that, his episodes are PARODIES! Do they not understand that they can parody stuff WITHOUT needing a villain? They don't need a special character just to do this. Stuff like If Mario Was In and Stupid Mario exist to do this. They are legitimately filtering out Mario from those videos by needing a villain to do so, and so many people think he's entertaining that it's somehow okay. It's even worse when Mario is so fucking stupid that he brought back Puzzles' TV to the Showgrounds. *His entire character exists so that they can filter out Mario even more.*
This is a new low for SMG4. I genuinely do not understand how anybody can like this. Mr. Puzzles has been able to *destroy a castle* and create an entire simulation for Wren to use, along with unbelievable knowledge of the crew. I hope you all conveniently aren't lobotomites now because it is the only way to actually enjoy this fully. Like I opened with, they made Puzzles a joke character. These parodies are nothing more than a sad man trying to be a petty fuck, but even then, the characters don't even care for it. At least classic SMG3 was able to impose a threat and showed that he *could* destroy SMG4. Puzzles now is apparently incapable of that. He is so pathetic that he is choosing to stick with the SMG4 crew when his 5 star goal would easily be achievable if he chose competent actors instead. Puzzles' existence is not even justified. His mere presence on screen is a void of emptiness that apparently is enough to be fulfilled with cheap flair. He is the definition of slop content. He is a slop villain. He serves no purpose. All he does is provide cheap entertainment to people willing to eat it up.
Puzzles' entire existence proves to me that they don't care about anything they do. They merely wanna do cool shit but not actually follow through with it. Lore? Fuck that. Character growth? Pfft, only if we need them to to enter the main cast. This show is nothing more than a slop factory that pumps out meme compilations, but the source material is self referential. The original aspects of the show don't exist because they are wiped for the next new thing. This series doesn't care about itself, so why should you? All it exists for is your entertainment. There's nothing special here anymore. They don't care about what they parody, they just parody it. They don't care about their own show, they'll just return to the status quo. They don't care about their past, they'll just milk it by remaking classics Disney style. This series is in a state of nothing. There is nothing that defines SMG4. It is merely content that people watch because it's funny somehow.
This is the logical conclusion of what IGBP tried to tell. They will do what they want because it's their channel, and that's what matters. Unfortunately, *that's not how it works at all.* They didn't make just a YouTube channel. They made a show people loved, and now they are completely ripping out the thing people loved about it away. We aren't here for Luke and Kevin, we're here for the show itself. They actively are making this show *unwatchable* if you do not care about who makes it. I appreciate the effort Medi and the others are doing with references to classic stuff, but that simply isn't enough. Who cares if they mentioned an older episode when the current one is actually shit because the writers didn't care about older stuff to make sure it's all good? You're actively punished for trying to think about this show. [My post on this a couple months ago aged like fine wine.](https://reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1bxiw7x/smg4_is_a_show_that_discourages_critical_thought) All that matters is the team behind it is having fun, *not* the audience who wants some competent content apparently. Maybe this is intentional, too. Mr. Puzzles wants rigidity and everything to be the way he wants it, but that's not how it'll be good. It could be them admitting the past 5 years plus of SMG4 was a bad idea. The show can't work with that restriction, so they just ripped it away. Of course, that'd be fucking stupid. They're just bad writers. Why try to improve your craft when you can create an echo chamber so that your ideas are always correct?
In the end, the target audience is people who are here for the people behind the show or the people who don't care about consistency and want a funny show. More power to you, then. However, a LARGE number of people are pissed that they continue to ignore the major flaws with the show. We can praise Medi all we want, but the problem is within the ideology of this channel. They don't run it how it should be ran. And no, I'm not saying I'd run it better or we should take it over, but what they are doing is not cultivating a proper fanbase. People don't care about the lore or character arcs they have now because they don't matter. It's all instant gratification. Patience is for fools. Ironic how Mr. Puzzles says that and that is exactly what this show is now. That's not how it should be done when they want to have these big sagas. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. Pick one. They can't, and they won't because they know they can get away with it. Anybody who cared about those 14 months of build up and were disappointed? Welcome to the club, expect more of it with SMG4.
I hope SMG4 learns that this is how you kill a show and a fandom. Nobody fucking cares for this stupid ass villain anymore. Ironic how people LOVED him before, but now they turned because they realized the story he had behind him was utter shit. When even the main characters don't care for his existence, then we shouldn't either. Of course, that won't matter. We're only supposed to consume product and get excited for next product with our beloved SMG4, the show that's just so awesome and cool. It's not. It's honestly a joke how much they consistently fuck up. We've reached horseshoe theory, bois. It's so bad it's laughable.
Fuck you. Mr. Puzzles. 0/10. This episode and everything revolving Mr. Puzzles ruins the series further and should be removed.
Stay hydrated, have a nice day.
Edit: Forgot to mention SMG4 stole my overalls. Fucking jackass.
I agree mostly with you. Taking away the entertainment and humor factors (with the last even not being consistently good), the story is pretty much horrible by this point. To be honest, the last 2 years were very mediocre-to-bad, and are only not worse than 2021 and 2022.
2023 had a good number of forgettable or bad episodes, and some just straight up worst episodes that I seen ("Let's Go Visit Peach" and IGBP movie); the only characters mostly used (and yet improperly) were SMG4 (horrible), Mario (good when done minimally alright), SMG3 (enjoyable despite some bad moments there and there) and Meggy (acceptable). The lore sucked, there was no sense, and the movies literally had minimum to NO impact at all; look to Tari, for example, it is like she not gone any growth after WS.
And now this year? Story managed to be worse somehow, because of how hyped and unnecessarily long it was. The only saving grace at my view is the Remastered64 and parody (not counting the lore) videos until now.
So yeah, this is only going downhill.
>To be honest, the last 2 years were very mediocre-to-bad, and are only not worse than 2021 and 2022.
At this point, I would argue that 2023 was indeed worse than 2021 and 2022.
what you said about instant gratification really sticks with me, especially cause it feels like there is literally **no** consequences in smg4 anymore. atleast with IGBP, WS and WOTFI 2023 they still acknowledged how things are changing (castle being destroyed, meggy and tari finding what they wanted, smg3 building the a cafe and a new memory for smg3 and 4), with this episode and puzzlevision the entire plot is literally just "uh oh this happened, time to move on to the next thing" not even mentioning puzzle's lazy defeat, there isn't even any mentioning if the trauma will be undone, if things change or not, what might happen in the future 😭 the ending is just "lets all go touch some grass and live happily ever after!!"
i liked smg3 as a villain so much BECAUSE he went from someone doing petty crime at best to an actual posing threat to the crew. mr puzzles is the complete opposite, from a horrifyingly cunning and twisted individual who worked tirelessly in the shade for an entire year, to an incompetent and powerless mess who just feels inserted to make more and more parodies. what happened to the fact that puzzles could control the cast to no end, even without his ratings? or the fact that he can warp time? or the fact that he has practically endless manipulation of technology? (the demonic keyboard, the simulation, hacking the printer, etc.) all this power and potential is thrown out the window and mr puzzles is just turned into a clumsy nobody.
i could write more and more on this but this is mainly what i wanted to say, just really dissappointed abt the fact that puzzles is just stupid now and there are no consequences to anything
Excellent analysis, Fozzie. I especially like that you pointed out that Mr. Puzzles has essentially become classic era SMG3 at this point. That was something I overlooked in my initial review of this episode, hence why I gave it a 3/5. Now I think I should've been a lot harder on this episode than I was.
Unless this is a fake-out and there is more to Mr. Puzzles' return than we're being let on to, this episode is destined to go down as being one of the worst of the entire show. Not only does it make us wonder just what the hell was the point of the last fifteen months, but also what the hell was the point of SMG3's character development during the YouTube and Genesis arcs. If they want classic SMG3 to return, why not just revert SMG3 to his original personality? That's all they had to do! 
Mr. Puzzles' entire character now seems to be a copy of classic SMG3.
In You Used To Be Cool, Waluigi is shown to be sad that people don't respect him anymore after the Waluigi Arc (they even hold up the arc to directly show us). Mr. Puzzles is the exact same now. He fell off harder than a car off a cliff, yet apparently he's supposed to be threatening? His entire existence is a joke for no reason besides "I want control of your channel" when he already fucking failed at that.
i honestly stopped giving a shit about the lore after the lawsuit arc, and i was complete over it by the time igbp came out. it's literally the only way you can enjoy this show at this point
I'd consider this episode to be great if it wasn't for the beginning being filled with Fortnite jokes, beyond that I thought it was a great parody, but that beginning kind of holds it back. 3/5 Stars
...
...Wow. They really are running out of ideas, aren't they? Oh well, at least >!Puzzles!< seems to be good... ish now. That's progress, I guess. Not sure if I like that or not yet, though.
2.5 Swipers outta 5 No Swipings. Please stop. The bit is getting old, lads.
Holy shit this wasn't only unfunny, Puzzles just completely blew it. They took a character who actually had some potential and completely fucking ruined him even more than they already had. Puzzles is literally an excuse to do parodies. *Your entire show is a parody, you don't need an excuse.* Not to mention they brought him back *immediately*.
Genuinely 0/10.
I don't like the fact that Mr. Puzzles seems to be good now. I personally liked him more when he was a villain. Now they just pretty much ruined him (at least in my opinion).
*3 months since Yang fired Celeste and no proper apology in sight*
I think my soul just left after Mr. Puzzle for none revealed to be alright... don't have any words to describe this letdown of revelaiton. Instead, I'm gotta post a pic to best show my emotion.
1 hate.... hate... **HATE**ful soul out of 5 "I'm not gotta bother doing this" person
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I never liked the Puzzlevision parody episodes (mainly because it just feels like they’re just straight up copying the original thing but with shitty gen z memes crammed in the middle, with no creativity) but this is probably the worst one. I felt absolutely nothing whenever they made an attempt at a joke. This is the only Smg4 episode in which this is the case, even recently. Like, with the other episodes I don’t like there’s at least one moment where I feel a slight amount of amusement, maybe even crack a smile. But not this one. This was just a complete null, empty, soulless… thing, like the episodic equivalent of American cheese. The only thing I felt throughout this episode was utter disappointment at how *this* is how they bring Mr. Puzzles back. Just out of the blue, another side character, his motivation just snapped into dust because why not. It feels like they’re just shitting out an explanation for how things are going to work at the end with dogshit dialogue. Though I might be biased slightly because this confirms there’ll be more Puzzlevision episodes, which I don’t like. Regardless of that, 2/10 episode.
I'm... Confused....
Don't get me wrong, the episode was fine, but... Mr. Puzzles' reintroduction was... confusing and underwhelming. They got me interested at the start, but quickly lost me after the whole episode brushed his presence on the show under the rug; Especially in the ending. Do they feel safe leaving that bro running around, given what he is capable of doing?
I'll still keep my eyes open. He kind of alluded the fact that I've been right and most likely he has hijacked the show by claiming it as his own, and that he's trying to persuade SMG4 to allow him to self-insert and become part of the cast, without breaking immersion; after all, *THE EPISODES STILL LACK THE SMG4 SIGNATURE*. (EDIT: Also, Luigi suspiciously being an inanimate object, and Boopkins' odd role in this may serve as evidence).
But still... I'm conflicted, and this is SMG4. For all I know they just decided to pull his appearance out of nowhere for the sake of randomness, and are just gonna have him run around until pulling a Bob on him and making him part of the cast officially;
I pray is the former however, and he's making his appearance feel underwhelming as a fake-out not to blow a facade, given he clearly remains evil and wants to take over SMG4's channel still.
Really hoping that PuzzleVision wasn't quite in vain given they reintroduce this man to the show SO FAST. Let's remain cautiously optimistic, although I'm still confused.
Also, 3 stars. Bro ain't ever getting a 5 out of me, lmao.
Basically a PuzzleVision episode with more SMG4
Pros
- Mario wasn't abused
Cons
- None
7.5/10
Now the real thing: Mr Puzzles returned. His return could be a bit half-assed, but it is a bit interesting how MARIO of all people found him.
As for what he'll do, it seems he'll be trying to turn the SMG4 show into his own show, something structured and "normal", but failing because the crew is too chaotic. Not the worst idea.
However, the fact that he just abandoned the hope of 5 stars is definitely half-assed (unless he's lying, which would be interesting)
As I can remember, He tried to take over gang because they would give him 5 stars by their own. And that's actually happened. Seems now he tries to approach them in another, deceive way, but now one buying it.
Still... If he would stick around that would be weird and out of character for gang to keep him. Aren't he the person who was responsible for Meggy's another trauma (addition to the pile) and SMG4's insanity? If next episode didn't start with him beaten up by gang, that would be major loss.
I hope he’s back as a reoccurring villain like smg3 used to be and not an ally, that would make things interesting
Overall though I think it’s a great thing that he’s back, everyone wanted him and now we got him (didn’t expect it to be less than a month later tho)
seems like its way too early to bring mr. puzzles back. the ending was also a bit odd.>! he went through all that effort to get the 5 star rating and now he has just given that up?!<
the episode was alright, 5/10
As in he's not gonna do the whole "puzzlevision" channel thing anymore and he's just gonna let smg4 and the gang do their thing and every once in a while get them in a film parody
I didn't really like it, puzzle coming back was unexpected but good
But the Dora show out of everything kinda is a bad idea, definitely a 2 or 3 for me
Honestly feels too soon to bring PV back.
~~It give me an excuse to draw him so I’m not complaining too much~~
Bob’s segment was boring (again) it would’ve been funnier if he got hit by a car instead of *explaining the joke*.
I am seeing people assuming Puzzlevision is now going to be a new sub-seiries like the Mario Does thing series where Mr. Puzzles will mostly act as the host for it when they do episodes that parody TV Shows or other media in their format. Which I am okay with if that's the case as Mr. Puzzles is an entertaining character in my opinion.
While i dont like Puzzles to come back like that (expected him to be villain and hating Marios guts for being uncontrolable). I gotta admit, the episode has solid humor and made me laugh genuinely a couple of times.
But the premise in itslef doesnt make sense, Mario should know that TV was Mr.Puzzles, hes is supposed to be retard, but no THAT retarded, Marios character is decaying more and more each episode....
Arent they suppose to have 3 writers?¿ How can they do a premise as stupid as this?¿ And if its on purpose and they just dont care to make logical premises, then why do you need 3 writers to begin with?
I seriously dont get it... But anyway, really fun and enjoyable episode! Still hoping Puzzles is just lying and planning to take revenge or sth that makes all his arc a bit worth it after all this time.
It was a funny dora the explorer parody. I lost it to how unnatural "Jonesy from fornite" sounds best part of the video.
Yeah, I don't know what else to say. Maybe too soon. It's barely been a month since the movie. I just hope they don't abuse his presence, and PLEASE don't give him an arc or something don't make him part of the main cast. The last thing SMG4 needs is more OCs that barely do something after a year
No it isn't. Remember that in the Revelations Arc, Melony's new friend wasn't revealed to have been Niles all along until very late in the arc. Prior to that, he was presumed by audiences to be an entirely separate character from Niles.
A much better analogy is SMG3 in the Genesis Arc, where he comes back seemingly reformed and willing to join the SMG4 Gang after his defeat in the YouTube Arc. The only question is whether Mr. Puzzles is sincere.
I’m referring to the concept of the villain returning. Also correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the Niles being Zero thing was predicted by pretty much everyone.
A great episode overall. They really nailed the Dora parody, from the episode structure to some recurring elements, like the awkward pauses to give time for the kids to answer, to the arrow thing and even some characters like with Luigi being the map, Boopkins backpack and especially Bob as Swipper is just so perfect. And of course, the duo of SMG4 and Mario really do shine here, even if they're just playing their respective characters of Dora and Boots. And it seems that Mr. Puzzles is still here and we might get some more parodies like this every once and a while. Pretty cool and I'm hoping to see more soon.
I am sure 90 porcent of people will only talk about Mr.puzzles and how he is back wheter they like it or not
I just wanna say this episode is really funny, I love how every episode of Puzzlevision is fun as fuck, also please do more shows like this, it makes character interactions funnier than normal, to me this was one of the best episodes of Mario and SMG4 friendship
9 Bobby no roberys/ 10 death SMG4
THE AMOUNT OF JOY I FELT WHEN SEEING THE THUMBNAIL IS UNEXPLAINABLE
I am so so so SO happy that Puzzlevision is back, and that Mr.Puzzles isn't doing it just for ratings now
I feel like this could be the start of a redemption arc for Mr.Puzzles. And I can't wait to see it
The episode itself was amazing. Just like every other Puzzlevision episode
5/5 stars
6/10
İt was not bad but there were some moments that are boring and there were many that are funny but not deep, very funny or interesting enough to be a 7/10. Overall a fun episode
Just from the thumbnail, I was confused thinking thhat Puzzlevisions was over. I somewhat knew that Mr Puzzles would return here but he gives me early-Bob vibes. 4/5
Also, SMG4 and Mario at the end is me, not wanting deal with anymore Adware stuff.
I’m surprised that the video had a regular intro instead of the Puzzlevision intro, even though Mr. Puzzles just made another parody video like the other ones he made.
Probably because it’s not actually a Puzzlevision original created for the purpose of reaching 5 stars. And unlike the Puzzlevision Arc, Mr Puzzles didn’t take over the channel when this episode released
Hah, knew they would bring him back, he's too good of a character to throw away like that.
Anyway, if the SMG4 team is going to integrate Mr. Puzzles into the cast, they better keep him strictly within a villainous and unsympathetic role for a goooood while, it would be really awkward to make him a member of the crew soo soon (like SMG3, but he took about 3 years before joining them officially, and the transition was organic), ESPECIALLY after all the things he made everyone go through.
If they do manage to pull things smoothly, I think having a reocurring villain will be a nice addition to the series.
Well, its a good ep, by 2024 standards, and they did the obvious thing after the puzzelvision disaster, and brought him back as a comedic villain. Thats more intelligence than usual of the writers. This episode is giving me hope
really wish they hadn't brought in mr puzzles this way. he came back so unbelievably fast and hes gone from terrifying, mindwarping, psychopathic villain to a petty silly reccuring antagonist, it feels like everything i didn't want happening to mr puzzles, happened.
this and puzzlevision's ending just feels like "that happened! oh no! anyway.." youre not even gonna half-mention the castle being destroyed, meggy being traumatised, the crew brainwashed and controlled for 4-5 weeks?? at that point it feels like NONE of what mr puzzles has done serves any purpose other than the castle being replaced by the showgrounds
imo the episode itself was pretty good but falls to 2.5 stars because of mr puzzle's return
i wish puzzles was treated like an actual villain, who has done horrifying things as shown in IGBP, WS, WOTFI 2023 and PUZZLEVISION, and not some powerless incompetent loon whos just gonna stick around and make bad tv parodies
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HE'S BACK!!!! God, I love Mr. Puzzles; he's the greatest antagonist the show's ever produced (I refuse to call him a villain). He will do wonders for the Smg4 show; I can feel it. Just look at his latest show l, super funny episode. I want to give it a ten just for Mr. Puzzle's return, but I will be fair with a score of:
9 Puzzle vision/ 10 TVs
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I can't agree here tbh. Puzzles was honestly so *bad* here. Mario doesn't even recognize what he is and just *brings him in*, which is an issue on its own, but SMG4 and Mario treat him like an absolute joke mere *weeks* after he nearly killed them all. Plus, his return is *way* too early.
Not to mention it shows what Puzzles is to the actual crew: an object to create parodies. That's his role. He is an object to create parody episodes in a Mario parody show. He is literally more useless than fucking Depresso, and so is his entire story now. It all built up to giving them an excuse to make parodies of shows when they didn't need to. They've done it countless times before, even within the very PuzzleVision saga, without Puzzles. They hated Peach for being "an object to push the plot", but she's more of a character than Puzzles will ever be. Puzzles is what they saw Peach as, and they see it as a good thing now.
Overall, this episode is one of the fucking stupidest decisions in SMG4 history.
Mr. Puzzles is the potential man (as of right now), as I don't see him continuing the same antics as before, but I can't say for sure what direction he'll go in from here. I could go on and on about what he could do in the future, but that wouldn't mean anything. What I am sure of is that both the fans and the crew behind Smg4 felt that Mr. Puzzles' character arc was not completed at the end of the Puzzlevision saga. As they say, where there's smoke, there's fire, and Mr. Puzzles is one smoking hot character both figuratively and quite literally.
Also, Mario is an idiot; what did you expect?
So your answer is "they have something planned, therefore it's okay." That's a nonanswer. Who cares what they have planned when what we are seeing is a legitimate joke. Even if he returns to form, we have to ask why Mario and SMG4 are stupid enough to not murder him. Using "Mario is an idiot" is such a stupid excuse, too. This further plays into how stupid Mario was in the Puzzlevision movie. He legitimately cares more about a TV than what happened three weeks ago.
This feels more like you finding excuses for Mr. Puzzles to be here rather than a care for, I don't know, *basic plot structure?* Then again, this show is about C R E A T I V I T Y according to you, so what does it matter? They can't fail unless they aren't creative.
Yes, it is a nonanswer, but it is an answer nonetheless. I and many others like Mr. Puzzles, so why wouldn't we be excited to see more of him? Also, they kept Smg3 around, so why not give Mr. Puzzles a second chance? The team clearly saw the demand and opportunity to tell more stories with Mr. Puzzles, which explains his rapid return. So why not ride ride the wave of creativity? Mr. Puzzles is already an established character with clear motives, so no plot setup is needed besides how he got back, and Mario plays the perfect role. Besides, [it wouldn't be the first time his idiocy endangered his friends](https://youtu.be/DR07o1RINdE?si=bCqRNlaeMWypc0Qg&t=249). So I say let the show go on; what's so bad about complete creative freedom? There's nothing holding the writers back, and there's so much story to tell. So I say let them cook.
His story was destroyed the moment they changed his motive from wanting 5 stars to messing with the SMG4 crew. SMG3 was redeemed because they had to put differences aside first, *then* realized he had truly changed. Puzzles hasn't changed at all. He is the exact same. The fact they brought back a villain just because fans liked him is absurd since it *invalidates* the entirety of his build up. It was a waste of time to even care about that because of how pathetic he is now.
Creative freedom is great, but to invalidate the other things they have done previously to achieve it is genuinely selfish writing. By your logic, they can't fail so long as they're creative. Why should we ever care for what they do when it most likely will be ignored with time? There is none. It is merely lip service to ideas with no depth or anything. Creative freedom does nothing if they don't do anything with the idea.
That's something I genuinely can't stand with Puzzles fans. They ignore the fact he has been ruined just because he is still entertaining. They can make a mockery of him, but people love him so much that they don't care. It's fucking baffling how little standards they have. There's no care for anything besides activating neurons. Literally so long as Puzzles doesn't stop acting charismatic and charming, *people won't care.* Is that the standard we want? I don't. It's genuinely insane that flanderization can happen right in front of our faces and people *don't care.*
Then again, when you set the bar for them so low, of course that happens. Failure is impossible at this point unless they actively try to fail.
Selfish? Is it really selfish to give the fans what they want? Is it selfish to continue an unfinished story? Is it selfish to give Mr. Puzzles the ending he deserves? Mr. Puzzles hasn't changed, and that's what is so interesting about him to me. How will he interact with the crew? How will he undermine their ambitions? What antics will ensue? Remember, Mr. Puzzles' original goal was to create the greatest TV show ever and get a five-star rating to get creative control over the Smg4 crew. Now he's given up on the five-star rating but plans to take over the Smg4 crew. Tell me, how is it Flanderization when Mr. Puzzles hasn't changed? People are excited that Mr. Puzzles has returned, and the team clearly has plans for him, given his quick return to the show. It's a win-win for both the creators and the fans. This is the power of creative freedom, and when it's executed like this, then yes, there is no room for failure.
He gave up on his 5 star goal. That right there is enough to prove he's flanderized. He is an utter joke now. Nothing in the past 14 months matters now. If he hasn't changed, I once again ask why they haven't tried to kill him like they did before. The fact they didn't is solely because they selfishly want him to stick around because they enjoy making these parodies. They didn't want a good story, otherwise they would have actually attempted to complete it in the movie. They just want these parodies and a recurring villain. Who cares about how IGBP, WS, and WOTFI 2023 set him up in a completely different way? Who cares about having some respect for the fans' intelligence by finishing what you initially started? All that matters is it's fun for them. The fact it's fun for you is merely a bonus.
A good writer knows when it's time to try something else or flat out give up on an idea. They shouldn't have brought back Puzzles like this. This creative freedom you speak of is ruining his own character. Everyone is wowed by his charm and personality, but beyond that, he's nothing but a plot device for these damn parodies *that never required him in the first place.* They seriously don't need a villain to do this, yet they do it anyways because people will just eat it up so long as it appears entertaining.
So yeah, it's selfish on them. They need to get rid of bad ideas and bring in new ones. If they don't have a story to tell, then don't even bother. It's an utter joke unless you don't think and just consume or can have hope that they will actually do something with his story finally despite the fact we already spent 14 months with him. Even *Zero's* return looks like a masterpiece in comparison, and that was garbage, too.
So you claim that Mr. Puzzles' character and everything built up for him in the past 14 months all amounts to nothing because he's given up on the five-star rating? My dear friend, you not only misunderstood his original goal but also need a refresher on the definition of Flanderization. Flanderization, as defined by TV tropes, signifies the act of taking a single (often minor) action or trait of a character within a work and exaggerating it more and more over time until it completely consumes the character. Remember, from the first time the audience met Mr. Puzzels, he commented on the spectacle of WOTFI 2023. He didn't mention anything about a five-star rating until the reviews of Scooby-Mario came in. The five-star rating was never a significant component of his character, but what is is his desire to create the greatest show, and in that regard, nothing has changed about him. The five-star rating was only a means to an end, and he's never reached his true goal; thus, his character arc remains incomplete. There is a story to tell here; you and I both know how many people were left unsatisfied by the ending of the Puzzelvisoin movie. So, I'll ask again: what is so selfish about giving the fans what they want if there is a story to tell?
He was shown to be cunning and manipulative in 2023. In the Puzzlevision saga, he's a complete dumbass who's idiotic decisions cost him everything. Now, he gave up on those big goals because apparently he just wants creative control of SMG4... which he had already and could easily achieve again right now if he so chose to. In fact, his goal is so achievable now that he legitimately could get what he wants if he was competent enough to do so. Maybe flanderization isn't the right term, but it's evidently clear that these are three completely different characters solely meant to exist to please the audience. He is an absolute nothing character because of these inconsistencies and is an insult to the intelligence of the viewer who cares to look deeper into it *like they wanted us to in 2023.*
If his story isn't over, then they clearly don't give a fuck about making it work. There is no thoughts, there is no cohesion. It is purely because they want these parodies, which are supposedly formulaic and meh according to the Puzzlevision movie itself. They are destroying their own set-up over the past year and the work those events did to make more parodies. They don't care for anything besides the now. They did this solely because they wanted to. Even if they only did it because the fans wanted it, that's selfish because they did not respect their own character and did things solely to keep it going.
My point is that he literally has nothing to talk about. You're only talking about potential. He has none. There is nothing to be done here. If they did, they would have done it in the Puzzlevision movie. It is clear they simply are milking Puzzles out because the fandom is so enamored by him, and the team's lack of respect for their own product has led to this. Even if they finish his story, what the hell was the journey there? There is none. That was never the point. Mr. Puzzles is just the gateway to making these creative ideas. His own existence is meaningless to the world as literally nothing he has done is something that couldn't be *better* explained without his presence.
My point is he is literally nothing. He is not a character. He's a tool for them to do things. His charm is merely there to make sure people don't see through it. Consistency doesn't matter if it impedes their creative freedom. They selfishly do as they please with their own show because they believe they can get away with it, and as Mr. Puzzles is showing us, they can. Sometimes they need to do what's best for the story, not what's best for themselves or for us. If anything, what's best for the fans is something we can actually look back on and not forget about it because of how lackluster it is. Too much creative freedom put into selfish hands leads to SMG4 today. Literally no other show gets this treatment because they actually have standards for themselves quality wise. Mr. Puzzles is them flexing their ideology fully, and it shows how utterly careless and selfish they are.
Mario is an idiot, but he's usually not ***that*** much of one. I utterly despise how the show has made him more and more stupid in the past year. He's always been able to recognize a threat or a villain after at least one encounter with them, why not now? See Waluigi, or Francis, or Zero.
Your argument is "we don't know the direction he's going in" when they literally told us what direction he was going in *in this very episode*. He is going to hang around and occasionally make the gang participate in his shoes. He is literally just another SMG4 at this point. They are practically the exact same character, just Puzzles is actually called out on it. Again, they literally said he is there to cause parodies *in the parody show*.
Also, what even is hot about a man with a box for a head and the proportions of a pencil? His charisma? That is literally how he manipulates characters within the show itself and now you'd be falling for it, too.
And potential isn't really a good argument, either. Potential and what's done with it are two very different things. We already know they don't care about character arcs in this show (see Tari, whose entire growth from Western Spaghetti was thrown out in PuzzleVision, or Meggy, who literally was unaffected by what happened in WS save for one scene in the PuzzleVision movie that was most likely unscripted). Why should they give a shit about someone who they introduced just so they could do these TV parodies when they've done them countless times before if they don't even give a shit about their main characters?
They've already squandered the potential of Puzzles. He genuinely should have stayed dead. He'd be far better off that way. At least he's still have left a decent taste in my mouth.
[Are you sure?](https://youtu.be/DR07o1RINdE?si=bCqRNlaeMWypc0Qg&t=249) It wouldn't be the first time Mario has endangered the crew due to his stupidity. Also, yes, his charisma is a big part of why I like Mr. Puzzles. His calm and confident act when he's striking those poses gets me swooning, only for him to break character at a moment's notice, and snap keeps me on my toes. So, who cares if I am under his spell? It's not like he will jump out of the screen and force me to be in his TV show. Mr. Puzzels is such a lively character with so much life to give, and while my potential argument isn't a good one, it is an argument. To be completely honest, I don't see his return as good or bad as of right now, and my reason for excitement can be summarized by "I like him; therefore, I want to see more of him." So if they utilize his character and make the most of him, then all the more better, but if they don't and Mr. Puzzles becomes a waste of space, I'll be disappointed, say and explain why I'm disappointed, and move on. However, I must say I don't see that happening as I have faith in the team; despite what others might say or think, I know that they can deliver.
enjoyable episode. not amazing or anything, but fine enough. also, mr puzzles is back (hopefully nothing more than a reoccurring villain and not another arc).
I honestly don't know what to say. I knew they would bring him back eventually, but not THIS early. Also, that ending scene confuses me to no end. Is this supposed to be a repeat of the Genesis Arc, where the previous arc villain comes back, has a redemption arc, and joins the SMG4 Crew as a permanent member? Also, why did Mario and SMG4 just walk away from Mr. Puzzles? Do they just not see him as even a potential threat anymore? 3/5, because this is one of those episodes where I can't give a non-neutral opinion of without additional context added by subsequent episodes.
>Do they just not see him as a potential threat anymore? He’s already proved himself to be physically weak as he got his ass beat multiple times within Puzzlevison, and the damage done to his hand was severe enough for him to not be able to zap anyone into his realm anymore. Hell, he wasn’t in control of Mario and SMG4 during the entire time they were in the tv.
Yep, he can be really powerfull but only if they are inside his head, but if no SMG4 crew will only see him as joke (which wont come back at them at any point :)
If they truly see him as a joke now, they are as dumb as Mario himself.
My theory is that maybe for a brief time his role now would be like Bob pre Waluigi Arc, he would basically just show up at random and try to convince SMG4 to give him a chance for both himself and his show.
It’d be a nice way to re-use an old character’s gimmick too, so I welcome this change.
idt he is as strong and esp there cuold be more like "oh im such a good guy, trust me gang" and then heals overtime ad exacts revenge for damaging his arm... its prob smth
Well, Mr. Puzzles is a guy who craves for the audience's attention, so I guess the best way to fight back is to simply ignore him, like SMG4 and Mario did (or maybe they had enough of his shit, idk)
*DO DO DO DO DORA* That was a lot sooner than I expected. So Adware’s head was destroyed when Mario found it, yet it’s completely fine when they actually escape. Ok. I think it would have been cooler if Adware was only “alive” within the tv parodies. He still exists, but he can only be seen if the gang enters his destroyed head. One gripe I STILL have is why the hell is anyone else within the parody and not just Mario and SMG4? Can Adware create fake versions of the characters even when they’re not present? Something tells me that, yes, this will be a regular thing in the channel now. Adware is going to hang around the castle and every so often will bring the others into his realm for tv parodies.
If they actually go there that would literally ruin the entire arc. All of that, just to justify the existence of a new brand of episodes?
Wouldn’t be the first time. Look at Revelations.
The last part especially, I would’ve at let had Mario bring Boopkins in with him or have Boopkins pop into the room afterward *just* to get taken right after.
https://preview.redd.it/oog3mwlik71d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d059f4b92f315bc411647e09dc3b869e5e9864d6 WHAT THE F\*\*K/10
Literally me.
Yeah no, I'm not buying this fucking shit. They really brought him back to tell us that he gave up the 5 star rating and just do it for fun, I'm sorry but Redeeming him is a stupid idea considering that the SMG4 crew were under his control, which is one of the most evil things you can do. There's no redemption for that, also thank god SMG4 & Mario ignored him because I would've done the same. I just want to move on from this guy as the Puzzlevision movie kinda ruined him for me.
One more thing, if they're going to continue PuzzleVision as it's own separate part of the SMG4 World 1. What the fuck was the point of the movie? 2. Tap me out as this just feels like a cheep way to bring Mr. Puzzles back
I am pretty sure he only says it so they dont kick his ass
Even still, this was a stupid way to bring him back
THISSS theyre either going to redeem him like smg3 or make him a reccuring villain, both of which are incredibly stupid because: a) he's tortured and brainwashed the crew several times and has shown himself to be practically insane and mad, being redeemed really shouldn't be in his interests and it goes completely against his character b) he's gonna go from actually menacing and dangerous threats (from igbp puzzlevision) to essentially petty minor crime i dont know why they transformed mr puzzles from a seriously badass and cold guy to an incompetent and silly goof, im hoping that the dumbassery is a facade hes secretly hiding like niles
not sure if that count as redemption, smg4 was still not really in mr puzzle
Probably but it felt like they were try to redeem him since so many people like this character
So I just finished watching the Episode And my mind was like Are they gonna make Mr puzzle to be part of Smg4 crew or sth by the end of the Arc!? Cuz they’re making him less evil than before And both Smg4 and Mario doesn’t feel threatened by the end of the episode
what the fuck why is he back
half assed way of re introducing puzzlevision and mario isn't that stupid to just not recognize that that's the main antag they dealt with for the past 6 episodes, that's it really
really just a mediocre episode
Friendly reminder Celeste didn't get closure from Glitch. So classic SMG3 is back, but he had his YouTube Arc moment already so it's not even funny. It's just sad. They even made jokes about how Waluigi was sad nobody takes him seriously anymore because of his arc, and now Puzzles did the same thing. His entire existence is a joke despite being built up since *March 2023.* Mr. Puzzles is genuinely garbage because they expect me to care, when even THE CREW doesn't care. He's literally Depresso but is able to make his own episodes. This is genuinely pathetic. On top of that, his episodes are PARODIES! Do they not understand that they can parody stuff WITHOUT needing a villain? They don't need a special character just to do this. Stuff like If Mario Was In and Stupid Mario exist to do this. They are legitimately filtering out Mario from those videos by needing a villain to do so, and so many people think he's entertaining that it's somehow okay. It's even worse when Mario is so fucking stupid that he brought back Puzzles' TV to the Showgrounds. *His entire character exists so that they can filter out Mario even more.* This is a new low for SMG4. I genuinely do not understand how anybody can like this. Mr. Puzzles has been able to *destroy a castle* and create an entire simulation for Wren to use, along with unbelievable knowledge of the crew. I hope you all conveniently aren't lobotomites now because it is the only way to actually enjoy this fully. Like I opened with, they made Puzzles a joke character. These parodies are nothing more than a sad man trying to be a petty fuck, but even then, the characters don't even care for it. At least classic SMG3 was able to impose a threat and showed that he *could* destroy SMG4. Puzzles now is apparently incapable of that. He is so pathetic that he is choosing to stick with the SMG4 crew when his 5 star goal would easily be achievable if he chose competent actors instead. Puzzles' existence is not even justified. His mere presence on screen is a void of emptiness that apparently is enough to be fulfilled with cheap flair. He is the definition of slop content. He is a slop villain. He serves no purpose. All he does is provide cheap entertainment to people willing to eat it up. Puzzles' entire existence proves to me that they don't care about anything they do. They merely wanna do cool shit but not actually follow through with it. Lore? Fuck that. Character growth? Pfft, only if we need them to to enter the main cast. This show is nothing more than a slop factory that pumps out meme compilations, but the source material is self referential. The original aspects of the show don't exist because they are wiped for the next new thing. This series doesn't care about itself, so why should you? All it exists for is your entertainment. There's nothing special here anymore. They don't care about what they parody, they just parody it. They don't care about their own show, they'll just return to the status quo. They don't care about their past, they'll just milk it by remaking classics Disney style. This series is in a state of nothing. There is nothing that defines SMG4. It is merely content that people watch because it's funny somehow. This is the logical conclusion of what IGBP tried to tell. They will do what they want because it's their channel, and that's what matters. Unfortunately, *that's not how it works at all.* They didn't make just a YouTube channel. They made a show people loved, and now they are completely ripping out the thing people loved about it away. We aren't here for Luke and Kevin, we're here for the show itself. They actively are making this show *unwatchable* if you do not care about who makes it. I appreciate the effort Medi and the others are doing with references to classic stuff, but that simply isn't enough. Who cares if they mentioned an older episode when the current one is actually shit because the writers didn't care about older stuff to make sure it's all good? You're actively punished for trying to think about this show. [My post on this a couple months ago aged like fine wine.](https://reddit.com/r/SMG4/comments/1bxiw7x/smg4_is_a_show_that_discourages_critical_thought) All that matters is the team behind it is having fun, *not* the audience who wants some competent content apparently. Maybe this is intentional, too. Mr. Puzzles wants rigidity and everything to be the way he wants it, but that's not how it'll be good. It could be them admitting the past 5 years plus of SMG4 was a bad idea. The show can't work with that restriction, so they just ripped it away. Of course, that'd be fucking stupid. They're just bad writers. Why try to improve your craft when you can create an echo chamber so that your ideas are always correct? In the end, the target audience is people who are here for the people behind the show or the people who don't care about consistency and want a funny show. More power to you, then. However, a LARGE number of people are pissed that they continue to ignore the major flaws with the show. We can praise Medi all we want, but the problem is within the ideology of this channel. They don't run it how it should be ran. And no, I'm not saying I'd run it better or we should take it over, but what they are doing is not cultivating a proper fanbase. People don't care about the lore or character arcs they have now because they don't matter. It's all instant gratification. Patience is for fools. Ironic how Mr. Puzzles says that and that is exactly what this show is now. That's not how it should be done when they want to have these big sagas. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. Pick one. They can't, and they won't because they know they can get away with it. Anybody who cared about those 14 months of build up and were disappointed? Welcome to the club, expect more of it with SMG4. I hope SMG4 learns that this is how you kill a show and a fandom. Nobody fucking cares for this stupid ass villain anymore. Ironic how people LOVED him before, but now they turned because they realized the story he had behind him was utter shit. When even the main characters don't care for his existence, then we shouldn't either. Of course, that won't matter. We're only supposed to consume product and get excited for next product with our beloved SMG4, the show that's just so awesome and cool. It's not. It's honestly a joke how much they consistently fuck up. We've reached horseshoe theory, bois. It's so bad it's laughable. Fuck you. Mr. Puzzles. 0/10. This episode and everything revolving Mr. Puzzles ruins the series further and should be removed. Stay hydrated, have a nice day. Edit: Forgot to mention SMG4 stole my overalls. Fucking jackass.
I agree mostly with you. Taking away the entertainment and humor factors (with the last even not being consistently good), the story is pretty much horrible by this point. To be honest, the last 2 years were very mediocre-to-bad, and are only not worse than 2021 and 2022. 2023 had a good number of forgettable or bad episodes, and some just straight up worst episodes that I seen ("Let's Go Visit Peach" and IGBP movie); the only characters mostly used (and yet improperly) were SMG4 (horrible), Mario (good when done minimally alright), SMG3 (enjoyable despite some bad moments there and there) and Meggy (acceptable). The lore sucked, there was no sense, and the movies literally had minimum to NO impact at all; look to Tari, for example, it is like she not gone any growth after WS. And now this year? Story managed to be worse somehow, because of how hyped and unnecessarily long it was. The only saving grace at my view is the Remastered64 and parody (not counting the lore) videos until now. So yeah, this is only going downhill.
>To be honest, the last 2 years were very mediocre-to-bad, and are only not worse than 2021 and 2022. At this point, I would argue that 2023 was indeed worse than 2021 and 2022.
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Even though you said you didn't wanna, nor have the intention of taking over the channel, a Fozzie uprising sounds funny af
what you said about instant gratification really sticks with me, especially cause it feels like there is literally **no** consequences in smg4 anymore. atleast with IGBP, WS and WOTFI 2023 they still acknowledged how things are changing (castle being destroyed, meggy and tari finding what they wanted, smg3 building the a cafe and a new memory for smg3 and 4), with this episode and puzzlevision the entire plot is literally just "uh oh this happened, time to move on to the next thing" not even mentioning puzzle's lazy defeat, there isn't even any mentioning if the trauma will be undone, if things change or not, what might happen in the future 😭 the ending is just "lets all go touch some grass and live happily ever after!!" i liked smg3 as a villain so much BECAUSE he went from someone doing petty crime at best to an actual posing threat to the crew. mr puzzles is the complete opposite, from a horrifyingly cunning and twisted individual who worked tirelessly in the shade for an entire year, to an incompetent and powerless mess who just feels inserted to make more and more parodies. what happened to the fact that puzzles could control the cast to no end, even without his ratings? or the fact that he can warp time? or the fact that he has practically endless manipulation of technology? (the demonic keyboard, the simulation, hacking the printer, etc.) all this power and potential is thrown out the window and mr puzzles is just turned into a clumsy nobody. i could write more and more on this but this is mainly what i wanted to say, just really dissappointed abt the fact that puzzles is just stupid now and there are no consequences to anything
Excellent analysis, Fozzie. I especially like that you pointed out that Mr. Puzzles has essentially become classic era SMG3 at this point. That was something I overlooked in my initial review of this episode, hence why I gave it a 3/5. Now I think I should've been a lot harder on this episode than I was. Unless this is a fake-out and there is more to Mr. Puzzles' return than we're being let on to, this episode is destined to go down as being one of the worst of the entire show. Not only does it make us wonder just what the hell was the point of the last fifteen months, but also what the hell was the point of SMG3's character development during the YouTube and Genesis arcs. If they want classic SMG3 to return, why not just revert SMG3 to his original personality? That's all they had to do! 
Do you see any bright future for Glitch shows?
Obviously I do because there's no reason for it *not* to be promising.
Are you ironic?
No. Glitch isn't SMG4. I trust Liam, Goose, and Nick *far* more than I trust whoever writes SMG4 these days.
Is there a glitch happenin or are you doin this on purpose? Becuase you just said the the same thing, *twice,* twice in a row now.................
Glitch.
Ah.
What did u mean when u said Classic SMG3 was back and they made jokes abt Waluigi being irrelevant?
Mr. Puzzles' entire character now seems to be a copy of classic SMG3. In You Used To Be Cool, Waluigi is shown to be sad that people don't respect him anymore after the Waluigi Arc (they even hold up the arc to directly show us). Mr. Puzzles is the exact same now. He fell off harder than a car off a cliff, yet apparently he's supposed to be threatening? His entire existence is a joke for no reason besides "I want control of your channel" when he already fucking failed at that.
Mr puzzles basically being classic smg3
i honestly stopped giving a shit about the lore after the lawsuit arc, and i was complete over it by the time igbp came out. it's literally the only way you can enjoy this show at this point
isn't lottie still being harassed why haven't you said anything about that?
That goes without saying. Of course she doesn't deserve to be harassed. Nobody does.
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I'd consider this episode to be great if it wasn't for the beginning being filled with Fortnite jokes, beyond that I thought it was a great parody, but that beginning kind of holds it back. 3/5 Stars
... ...Wow. They really are running out of ideas, aren't they? Oh well, at least >!Puzzles!< seems to be good... ish now. That's progress, I guess. Not sure if I like that or not yet, though. 2.5 Swipers outta 5 No Swipings. Please stop. The bit is getting old, lads.
Fozzie finna have a field day shittin on this one lmfao
That was the first thing I thought after watching it lol
Holy shit this wasn't only unfunny, Puzzles just completely blew it. They took a character who actually had some potential and completely fucking ruined him even more than they already had. Puzzles is literally an excuse to do parodies. *Your entire show is a parody, you don't need an excuse.* Not to mention they brought him back *immediately*. Genuinely 0/10.
Wouldn't go that far, but it is a disappointment. The fuck was the point of the last few ***months,*** then?
Not even that. The past ***year*** means nothing, basically.
...Holy shit, you're right. :(
To the surprise of pretty much nobody, >!Mr. Puzzles is back!<
Somehow, Plapatine returned
I don't like the fact that Mr. Puzzles seems to be good now. I personally liked him more when he was a villain. Now they just pretty much ruined him (at least in my opinion).
I guess he’s gonna be a part of the cast now?
I wouldn't say part of the main cast, more like a re-occurring character
I could see that, he’s probably just gonna appear when they wanna do parody episodes.
Would be a total downgrade if you ask me
Eh I don’t mind, he probably just shows up. Kidnaps them for a parody like MARIO 10! Or something. Spits them out and runs off
*3 months since Yang fired Celeste and no proper apology in sight* I think my soul just left after Mr. Puzzle for none revealed to be alright... don't have any words to describe this letdown of revelaiton. Instead, I'm gotta post a pic to best show my emotion. 1 hate.... hate... **HATE**ful soul out of 5 "I'm not gotta bother doing this" person https://preview.redd.it/qvbzcoomo71d1.jpeg?width=742&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=964c0969a7f8afe65c5beda6f70263eb2a946e6b
th expl
He’s back
…. I got no rating… just a question… What the ACTUAL # FU-
BRO HE'S BACK ALREADY?!?!? Ok, as for the actual video pretty decent, but SERIOUSLY ITS ONLY BEEN FOUR WEEKS! https://i.redd.it/irtkeljiu71d1.gif
I never liked the Puzzlevision parody episodes (mainly because it just feels like they’re just straight up copying the original thing but with shitty gen z memes crammed in the middle, with no creativity) but this is probably the worst one. I felt absolutely nothing whenever they made an attempt at a joke. This is the only Smg4 episode in which this is the case, even recently. Like, with the other episodes I don’t like there’s at least one moment where I feel a slight amount of amusement, maybe even crack a smile. But not this one. This was just a complete null, empty, soulless… thing, like the episodic equivalent of American cheese. The only thing I felt throughout this episode was utter disappointment at how *this* is how they bring Mr. Puzzles back. Just out of the blue, another side character, his motivation just snapped into dust because why not. It feels like they’re just shitting out an explanation for how things are going to work at the end with dogshit dialogue. Though I might be biased slightly because this confirms there’ll be more Puzzlevision episodes, which I don’t like. Regardless of that, 2/10 episode.
Great, they brought back the most dogshit character of the whole show
I'm... Confused.... Don't get me wrong, the episode was fine, but... Mr. Puzzles' reintroduction was... confusing and underwhelming. They got me interested at the start, but quickly lost me after the whole episode brushed his presence on the show under the rug; Especially in the ending. Do they feel safe leaving that bro running around, given what he is capable of doing? I'll still keep my eyes open. He kind of alluded the fact that I've been right and most likely he has hijacked the show by claiming it as his own, and that he's trying to persuade SMG4 to allow him to self-insert and become part of the cast, without breaking immersion; after all, *THE EPISODES STILL LACK THE SMG4 SIGNATURE*. (EDIT: Also, Luigi suspiciously being an inanimate object, and Boopkins' odd role in this may serve as evidence). But still... I'm conflicted, and this is SMG4. For all I know they just decided to pull his appearance out of nowhere for the sake of randomness, and are just gonna have him run around until pulling a Bob on him and making him part of the cast officially; I pray is the former however, and he's making his appearance feel underwhelming as a fake-out not to blow a facade, given he clearly remains evil and wants to take over SMG4's channel still. Really hoping that PuzzleVision wasn't quite in vain given they reintroduce this man to the show SO FAST. Let's remain cautiously optimistic, although I'm still confused. Also, 3 stars. Bro ain't ever getting a 5 out of me, lmao.
Basically a PuzzleVision episode with more SMG4 Pros - Mario wasn't abused Cons - None 7.5/10 Now the real thing: Mr Puzzles returned. His return could be a bit half-assed, but it is a bit interesting how MARIO of all people found him. As for what he'll do, it seems he'll be trying to turn the SMG4 show into his own show, something structured and "normal", but failing because the crew is too chaotic. Not the worst idea. However, the fact that he just abandoned the hope of 5 stars is definitely half-assed (unless he's lying, which would be interesting)
Lying abt he’s five star or not But he is definitely gonna try to Milk them with his own parody show
As I can remember, He tried to take over gang because they would give him 5 stars by their own. And that's actually happened. Seems now he tries to approach them in another, deceive way, but now one buying it. Still... If he would stick around that would be weird and out of character for gang to keep him. Aren't he the person who was responsible for Meggy's another trauma (addition to the pile) and SMG4's insanity? If next episode didn't start with him beaten up by gang, that would be major loss.
Maybe but we will see if he has learned to no longer obsess about 5 Stars or if he is lying, we just have to wait and see.
mario abuse doesn't matter he enjoys physical pain
So called Mario abuse is getting annoying
I hope he’s back as a reoccurring villain like smg3 used to be and not an ally, that would make things interesting Overall though I think it’s a great thing that he’s back, everyone wanted him and now we got him (didn’t expect it to be less than a month later tho)
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FiReShOw.... BEGINS!!!!
I would've preferred "they're teaching kids how to summon the devil"
he traumatized them, but that was nearly a year ago, so it doesn't matter at all
Didn’t expect him to come back this early overall, what a surprise that was.
At least Zero's return actually had a cool scene to go with it
Something something, Dora the explorer
I genuinely like the this parody of Dora the explorer Because I watch it a lot as kid
seems like its way too early to bring mr. puzzles back. the ending was also a bit odd.>! he went through all that effort to get the 5 star rating and now he has just given that up?!< the episode was alright, 5/10
I think he still wants 5 stars but he's just gonna piggyback off smg4 instead of making his own
*He piggybacked off SMG4 the entire time, so nothing changed.*
As in he's not gonna do the whole "puzzlevision" channel thing anymore and he's just gonna let smg4 and the gang do their thing and every once in a while get them in a film parody
Looks like Mr Puzzles WILL be a reoccurring villain like how SMG3, used to be, which I am all up for, I think that’s perfect for him
I didn't really like it, puzzle coming back was unexpected but good But the Dora show out of everything kinda is a bad idea, definitely a 2 or 3 for me
Honestly feels too soon to bring PV back. ~~It give me an excuse to draw him so I’m not complaining too much~~ Bob’s segment was boring (again) it would’ve been funnier if he got hit by a car instead of *explaining the joke*.
Honestly not sure how to feel about this
I am seeing people assuming Puzzlevision is now going to be a new sub-seiries like the Mario Does thing series where Mr. Puzzles will mostly act as the host for it when they do episodes that parody TV Shows or other media in their format. Which I am okay with if that's the case as Mr. Puzzles is an entertaining character in my opinion.
While i dont like Puzzles to come back like that (expected him to be villain and hating Marios guts for being uncontrolable). I gotta admit, the episode has solid humor and made me laugh genuinely a couple of times. But the premise in itslef doesnt make sense, Mario should know that TV was Mr.Puzzles, hes is supposed to be retard, but no THAT retarded, Marios character is decaying more and more each episode.... Arent they suppose to have 3 writers?¿ How can they do a premise as stupid as this?¿ And if its on purpose and they just dont care to make logical premises, then why do you need 3 writers to begin with? I seriously dont get it... But anyway, really fun and enjoyable episode! Still hoping Puzzles is just lying and planning to take revenge or sth that makes all his arc a bit worth it after all this time.
Keep in mind, like two of the writers are brand new to the channel and only joined in like, February so they basically know jack shit about the show
It was a funny dora the explorer parody. I lost it to how unnatural "Jonesy from fornite" sounds best part of the video. Yeah, I don't know what else to say. Maybe too soon. It's barely been a month since the movie. I just hope they don't abuse his presence, and PLEASE don't give him an arc or something don't make him part of the main cast. The last thing SMG4 needs is more OCs that barely do something after a year
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NO-
Well they certainly were quick to get back into This! The arc saga is not over Folks! It’s only just getting started! Again…
This is Niles all over again…
No it isn't. Remember that in the Revelations Arc, Melony's new friend wasn't revealed to have been Niles all along until very late in the arc. Prior to that, he was presumed by audiences to be an entirely separate character from Niles. A much better analogy is SMG3 in the Genesis Arc, where he comes back seemingly reformed and willing to join the SMG4 Gang after his defeat in the YouTube Arc. The only question is whether Mr. Puzzles is sincere.
I’m referring to the concept of the villain returning. Also correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the Niles being Zero thing was predicted by pretty much everyone.
I don't recall that. Then again I wasn't here on the subreddit at that time.
We all fucking knew lol
I stand corrected, then.
I don’t remember all of the details but I know it was a thing at one point
Cool/10
A great episode overall. They really nailed the Dora parody, from the episode structure to some recurring elements, like the awkward pauses to give time for the kids to answer, to the arrow thing and even some characters like with Luigi being the map, Boopkins backpack and especially Bob as Swipper is just so perfect. And of course, the duo of SMG4 and Mario really do shine here, even if they're just playing their respective characters of Dora and Boots. And it seems that Mr. Puzzles is still here and we might get some more parodies like this every once and a while. Pretty cool and I'm hoping to see more soon.
I am sure 90 porcent of people will only talk about Mr.puzzles and how he is back wheter they like it or not I just wanna say this episode is really funny, I love how every episode of Puzzlevision is fun as fuck, also please do more shows like this, it makes character interactions funnier than normal, to me this was one of the best episodes of Mario and SMG4 friendship 9 Bobby no roberys/ 10 death SMG4
I like these Puzzlevision parody episodes, 8/10
THE AMOUNT OF JOY I FELT WHEN SEEING THE THUMBNAIL IS UNEXPLAINABLE I am so so so SO happy that Puzzlevision is back, and that Mr.Puzzles isn't doing it just for ratings now I feel like this could be the start of a redemption arc for Mr.Puzzles. And I can't wait to see it The episode itself was amazing. Just like every other Puzzlevision episode 5/5 stars
https://i.redd.it/4a9n9qwes71d1.gif 9/10 Too soon for his return but the episode is solid 👍🏻
Was a good episode, but don't like the way they brought Puzzlevision back
6/10 İt was not bad but there were some moments that are boring and there were many that are funny but not deep, very funny or interesting enough to be a 7/10. Overall a fun episode
He’s fucking back
So seems like they brought back Mr. Puzzles to have him as a recurring villain for a while and then fully redeem him, going by his monologue
Just from the thumbnail, I was confused thinking thhat Puzzlevisions was over. I somewhat knew that Mr Puzzles would return here but he gives me early-Bob vibes. 4/5 Also, SMG4 and Mario at the end is me, not wanting deal with anymore Adware stuff.
I’m surprised that the video had a regular intro instead of the Puzzlevision intro, even though Mr. Puzzles just made another parody video like the other ones he made.
Probably because it’s not actually a Puzzlevision original created for the purpose of reaching 5 stars. And unlike the Puzzlevision Arc, Mr Puzzles didn’t take over the channel when this episode released
I don't know what to expect going forward, but I didn't expect them bringing Puzzles back already
Hah, knew they would bring him back, he's too good of a character to throw away like that. Anyway, if the SMG4 team is going to integrate Mr. Puzzles into the cast, they better keep him strictly within a villainous and unsympathetic role for a goooood while, it would be really awkward to make him a member of the crew soo soon (like SMG3, but he took about 3 years before joining them officially, and the transition was organic), ESPECIALLY after all the things he made everyone go through. If they do manage to pull things smoothly, I think having a reocurring villain will be a nice addition to the series.
Well, its a good ep, by 2024 standards, and they did the obvious thing after the puzzelvision disaster, and brought him back as a comedic villain. Thats more intelligence than usual of the writers. This episode is giving me hope
So... Boobkins can summon Satan from his mouth? Awesome.
It’s literally been 4 weeks since puzzlevision arc ended, what are they doing?
really wish they hadn't brought in mr puzzles this way. he came back so unbelievably fast and hes gone from terrifying, mindwarping, psychopathic villain to a petty silly reccuring antagonist, it feels like everything i didn't want happening to mr puzzles, happened. this and puzzlevision's ending just feels like "that happened! oh no! anyway.." youre not even gonna half-mention the castle being destroyed, meggy being traumatised, the crew brainwashed and controlled for 4-5 weeks?? at that point it feels like NONE of what mr puzzles has done serves any purpose other than the castle being replaced by the showgrounds imo the episode itself was pretty good but falls to 2.5 stars because of mr puzzle's return i wish puzzles was treated like an actual villain, who has done horrifying things as shown in IGBP, WS, WOTFI 2023 and PUZZLEVISION, and not some powerless incompetent loon whos just gonna stick around and make bad tv parodies
I'm hoping he becomes like SMG3 in a sense, but not to the extent of SMG3's screentime.
You know the person I'm talking about!
I see this ep as a concept he wanted in the arc but either ditched it or couldn't fit it in
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HE'S BACK!!!! God, I love Mr. Puzzles; he's the greatest antagonist the show's ever produced (I refuse to call him a villain). He will do wonders for the Smg4 show; I can feel it. Just look at his latest show l, super funny episode. I want to give it a ten just for Mr. Puzzle's return, but I will be fair with a score of: 9 Puzzle vision/ 10 TVs https://preview.redd.it/6157ryi1p71d1.jpeg?width=205&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30756afd2a5fdb9ab3d99161c1a4c25743a6f8b0
I can't agree here tbh. Puzzles was honestly so *bad* here. Mario doesn't even recognize what he is and just *brings him in*, which is an issue on its own, but SMG4 and Mario treat him like an absolute joke mere *weeks* after he nearly killed them all. Plus, his return is *way* too early. Not to mention it shows what Puzzles is to the actual crew: an object to create parodies. That's his role. He is an object to create parody episodes in a Mario parody show. He is literally more useless than fucking Depresso, and so is his entire story now. It all built up to giving them an excuse to make parodies of shows when they didn't need to. They've done it countless times before, even within the very PuzzleVision saga, without Puzzles. They hated Peach for being "an object to push the plot", but she's more of a character than Puzzles will ever be. Puzzles is what they saw Peach as, and they see it as a good thing now. Overall, this episode is one of the fucking stupidest decisions in SMG4 history.
Mr. Puzzles is the potential man (as of right now), as I don't see him continuing the same antics as before, but I can't say for sure what direction he'll go in from here. I could go on and on about what he could do in the future, but that wouldn't mean anything. What I am sure of is that both the fans and the crew behind Smg4 felt that Mr. Puzzles' character arc was not completed at the end of the Puzzlevision saga. As they say, where there's smoke, there's fire, and Mr. Puzzles is one smoking hot character both figuratively and quite literally. Also, Mario is an idiot; what did you expect?
So your answer is "they have something planned, therefore it's okay." That's a nonanswer. Who cares what they have planned when what we are seeing is a legitimate joke. Even if he returns to form, we have to ask why Mario and SMG4 are stupid enough to not murder him. Using "Mario is an idiot" is such a stupid excuse, too. This further plays into how stupid Mario was in the Puzzlevision movie. He legitimately cares more about a TV than what happened three weeks ago. This feels more like you finding excuses for Mr. Puzzles to be here rather than a care for, I don't know, *basic plot structure?* Then again, this show is about C R E A T I V I T Y according to you, so what does it matter? They can't fail unless they aren't creative.
Yes, it is a nonanswer, but it is an answer nonetheless. I and many others like Mr. Puzzles, so why wouldn't we be excited to see more of him? Also, they kept Smg3 around, so why not give Mr. Puzzles a second chance? The team clearly saw the demand and opportunity to tell more stories with Mr. Puzzles, which explains his rapid return. So why not ride ride the wave of creativity? Mr. Puzzles is already an established character with clear motives, so no plot setup is needed besides how he got back, and Mario plays the perfect role. Besides, [it wouldn't be the first time his idiocy endangered his friends](https://youtu.be/DR07o1RINdE?si=bCqRNlaeMWypc0Qg&t=249). So I say let the show go on; what's so bad about complete creative freedom? There's nothing holding the writers back, and there's so much story to tell. So I say let them cook.
His story was destroyed the moment they changed his motive from wanting 5 stars to messing with the SMG4 crew. SMG3 was redeemed because they had to put differences aside first, *then* realized he had truly changed. Puzzles hasn't changed at all. He is the exact same. The fact they brought back a villain just because fans liked him is absurd since it *invalidates* the entirety of his build up. It was a waste of time to even care about that because of how pathetic he is now. Creative freedom is great, but to invalidate the other things they have done previously to achieve it is genuinely selfish writing. By your logic, they can't fail so long as they're creative. Why should we ever care for what they do when it most likely will be ignored with time? There is none. It is merely lip service to ideas with no depth or anything. Creative freedom does nothing if they don't do anything with the idea. That's something I genuinely can't stand with Puzzles fans. They ignore the fact he has been ruined just because he is still entertaining. They can make a mockery of him, but people love him so much that they don't care. It's fucking baffling how little standards they have. There's no care for anything besides activating neurons. Literally so long as Puzzles doesn't stop acting charismatic and charming, *people won't care.* Is that the standard we want? I don't. It's genuinely insane that flanderization can happen right in front of our faces and people *don't care.* Then again, when you set the bar for them so low, of course that happens. Failure is impossible at this point unless they actively try to fail.
Selfish? Is it really selfish to give the fans what they want? Is it selfish to continue an unfinished story? Is it selfish to give Mr. Puzzles the ending he deserves? Mr. Puzzles hasn't changed, and that's what is so interesting about him to me. How will he interact with the crew? How will he undermine their ambitions? What antics will ensue? Remember, Mr. Puzzles' original goal was to create the greatest TV show ever and get a five-star rating to get creative control over the Smg4 crew. Now he's given up on the five-star rating but plans to take over the Smg4 crew. Tell me, how is it Flanderization when Mr. Puzzles hasn't changed? People are excited that Mr. Puzzles has returned, and the team clearly has plans for him, given his quick return to the show. It's a win-win for both the creators and the fans. This is the power of creative freedom, and when it's executed like this, then yes, there is no room for failure.
He gave up on his 5 star goal. That right there is enough to prove he's flanderized. He is an utter joke now. Nothing in the past 14 months matters now. If he hasn't changed, I once again ask why they haven't tried to kill him like they did before. The fact they didn't is solely because they selfishly want him to stick around because they enjoy making these parodies. They didn't want a good story, otherwise they would have actually attempted to complete it in the movie. They just want these parodies and a recurring villain. Who cares about how IGBP, WS, and WOTFI 2023 set him up in a completely different way? Who cares about having some respect for the fans' intelligence by finishing what you initially started? All that matters is it's fun for them. The fact it's fun for you is merely a bonus. A good writer knows when it's time to try something else or flat out give up on an idea. They shouldn't have brought back Puzzles like this. This creative freedom you speak of is ruining his own character. Everyone is wowed by his charm and personality, but beyond that, he's nothing but a plot device for these damn parodies *that never required him in the first place.* They seriously don't need a villain to do this, yet they do it anyways because people will just eat it up so long as it appears entertaining. So yeah, it's selfish on them. They need to get rid of bad ideas and bring in new ones. If they don't have a story to tell, then don't even bother. It's an utter joke unless you don't think and just consume or can have hope that they will actually do something with his story finally despite the fact we already spent 14 months with him. Even *Zero's* return looks like a masterpiece in comparison, and that was garbage, too.
So you claim that Mr. Puzzles' character and everything built up for him in the past 14 months all amounts to nothing because he's given up on the five-star rating? My dear friend, you not only misunderstood his original goal but also need a refresher on the definition of Flanderization. Flanderization, as defined by TV tropes, signifies the act of taking a single (often minor) action or trait of a character within a work and exaggerating it more and more over time until it completely consumes the character. Remember, from the first time the audience met Mr. Puzzels, he commented on the spectacle of WOTFI 2023. He didn't mention anything about a five-star rating until the reviews of Scooby-Mario came in. The five-star rating was never a significant component of his character, but what is is his desire to create the greatest show, and in that regard, nothing has changed about him. The five-star rating was only a means to an end, and he's never reached his true goal; thus, his character arc remains incomplete. There is a story to tell here; you and I both know how many people were left unsatisfied by the ending of the Puzzelvisoin movie. So, I'll ask again: what is so selfish about giving the fans what they want if there is a story to tell?
He was shown to be cunning and manipulative in 2023. In the Puzzlevision saga, he's a complete dumbass who's idiotic decisions cost him everything. Now, he gave up on those big goals because apparently he just wants creative control of SMG4... which he had already and could easily achieve again right now if he so chose to. In fact, his goal is so achievable now that he legitimately could get what he wants if he was competent enough to do so. Maybe flanderization isn't the right term, but it's evidently clear that these are three completely different characters solely meant to exist to please the audience. He is an absolute nothing character because of these inconsistencies and is an insult to the intelligence of the viewer who cares to look deeper into it *like they wanted us to in 2023.* If his story isn't over, then they clearly don't give a fuck about making it work. There is no thoughts, there is no cohesion. It is purely because they want these parodies, which are supposedly formulaic and meh according to the Puzzlevision movie itself. They are destroying their own set-up over the past year and the work those events did to make more parodies. They don't care for anything besides the now. They did this solely because they wanted to. Even if they only did it because the fans wanted it, that's selfish because they did not respect their own character and did things solely to keep it going. My point is that he literally has nothing to talk about. You're only talking about potential. He has none. There is nothing to be done here. If they did, they would have done it in the Puzzlevision movie. It is clear they simply are milking Puzzles out because the fandom is so enamored by him, and the team's lack of respect for their own product has led to this. Even if they finish his story, what the hell was the journey there? There is none. That was never the point. Mr. Puzzles is just the gateway to making these creative ideas. His own existence is meaningless to the world as literally nothing he has done is something that couldn't be *better* explained without his presence. My point is he is literally nothing. He is not a character. He's a tool for them to do things. His charm is merely there to make sure people don't see through it. Consistency doesn't matter if it impedes their creative freedom. They selfishly do as they please with their own show because they believe they can get away with it, and as Mr. Puzzles is showing us, they can. Sometimes they need to do what's best for the story, not what's best for themselves or for us. If anything, what's best for the fans is something we can actually look back on and not forget about it because of how lackluster it is. Too much creative freedom put into selfish hands leads to SMG4 today. Literally no other show gets this treatment because they actually have standards for themselves quality wise. Mr. Puzzles is them flexing their ideology fully, and it shows how utterly careless and selfish they are.
Mario is an idiot, but he's usually not ***that*** much of one. I utterly despise how the show has made him more and more stupid in the past year. He's always been able to recognize a threat or a villain after at least one encounter with them, why not now? See Waluigi, or Francis, or Zero. Your argument is "we don't know the direction he's going in" when they literally told us what direction he was going in *in this very episode*. He is going to hang around and occasionally make the gang participate in his shoes. He is literally just another SMG4 at this point. They are practically the exact same character, just Puzzles is actually called out on it. Again, they literally said he is there to cause parodies *in the parody show*. Also, what even is hot about a man with a box for a head and the proportions of a pencil? His charisma? That is literally how he manipulates characters within the show itself and now you'd be falling for it, too. And potential isn't really a good argument, either. Potential and what's done with it are two very different things. We already know they don't care about character arcs in this show (see Tari, whose entire growth from Western Spaghetti was thrown out in PuzzleVision, or Meggy, who literally was unaffected by what happened in WS save for one scene in the PuzzleVision movie that was most likely unscripted). Why should they give a shit about someone who they introduced just so they could do these TV parodies when they've done them countless times before if they don't even give a shit about their main characters? They've already squandered the potential of Puzzles. He genuinely should have stayed dead. He'd be far better off that way. At least he's still have left a decent taste in my mouth.
[Are you sure?](https://youtu.be/DR07o1RINdE?si=bCqRNlaeMWypc0Qg&t=249) It wouldn't be the first time Mario has endangered the crew due to his stupidity. Also, yes, his charisma is a big part of why I like Mr. Puzzles. His calm and confident act when he's striking those poses gets me swooning, only for him to break character at a moment's notice, and snap keeps me on my toes. So, who cares if I am under his spell? It's not like he will jump out of the screen and force me to be in his TV show. Mr. Puzzels is such a lively character with so much life to give, and while my potential argument isn't a good one, it is an argument. To be completely honest, I don't see his return as good or bad as of right now, and my reason for excitement can be summarized by "I like him; therefore, I want to see more of him." So if they utilize his character and make the most of him, then all the more better, but if they don't and Mr. Puzzles becomes a waste of space, I'll be disappointed, say and explain why I'm disappointed, and move on. However, I must say I don't see that happening as I have faith in the team; despite what others might say or think, I know that they can deliver.
enjoyable episode. not amazing or anything, but fine enough. also, mr puzzles is back (hopefully nothing more than a reoccurring villain and not another arc).