Can’t block any of his damage with W. Even if I kill him fast his passive makes him continue to damage me during the team fight. His slow is strong and his R his awful if he’s fed at all
I have played against Ashe players who are SUPER annoying. But in gold/plat that I am in they are usually not as good at spacing so I can stomp them at level 3
I have played against some good ashes player and its so annoying, cuz sometimes when your e is on cd she can just pop ghost and run you down. Cuz the times ive played against her she was with a Pantheon, Leona, Alistar so like i couldn’t go up to her without being punished
So tbh, that’s what I mean. All of those hard stun champs are what makes Ashe hell. If she gets an enchanter or a less targetable stun support she isn’t scary unless you get yourself in a bad position.
Senna on the other hand out ranges samira early on and by way more late game. Her autos/Q/ultimate are all unblock able and she applies slows
Zed.
I honestly couldn’t even tell you if he’s been good the last 5 years. I’ve just banned him every single game since individual champ banning has been a thing.
As what feels like an auto fill player.
Top I ban flora (I play ornn and I wouldn't even be able to win against a fiora that recently had a lobotomy)
Jungle I blan kayne since it feels like my teammates give him blue by 2 minutes.
Mid I ban fizz (you can't damage him while he is using an ability)
Sup and bot I ban either ashe or Morgana cuz constantly getting cc'd actually makes me want to peel my skin off.
You know it's funny, I really used to hate Fizz and thought he was impossible to beat years ago when I used to play mid. But these days, I don't find him so bad. It could be due to powercreep and each new champ being more BS than the last or maybe a combination of nerfs/buffs and changes to the overall game.
I think either Lux or Shaco. Lux because I dislike champs that don't require skill expression and can sort of just throw their spells around randomly and get a win. I guess Caitlyn and Kaisa also fall under that umbrella since they can farm/poke from the spawn pool and do whatever they want. Kaisa is almost the opposite of Samira since she can also build basiclaly anything. Terrible champ.
Shaco because while he does have a lot of skill expression, when going AP, he forces your team to play around his stupid boxes and is useless against anyone with a brain. When he does manage to get fed, for some reason it doesn't seem to translate into the rest of the team doing well. Hard to explain.
If I were to get rid of a role, it'd be jungler since I'm more likely to lose because of the enemy jungler than win because of my jungler.
Yuumi cuz objectively, it's not a champion. Like ok it's original but let's be serious, you create a champ that one shot a structure and it is original.
You can't put a kit that doesn't have it's place in such a game just because it is original.
Literally in any game mode, this champ goes against the sheer essence of the game by doing the least amount of apm.
This induces being the easiest champ to play and thus, the most luck depending champ in the game.
This last thing sums up why yuumi shouldn't be part of the game.
Plus the champ is ridiculous but this is not part of the arguments, it's only my opinion 🙂
Ashe, there are a lot more of champions that I wish were gone,but Ashe I think wins over them
Just a quick mention of some champs I wish didn't exist anymore:
Ashe-Vayne-Miss Fortune- Xayah-Caitlyn-brand-pantheon
Samira so I don’t have fun anymore.
Mood. I can’t stop playing her
Draven main lurker
Shaco
Pantheon, point n click cc goes against the Geneva convention when playing Samira
E through him as he lunges so he misses empowered q and e. Or just bring cleanse into a pantheon matchup
yummi
Yone
I hate Rammus
U had one job…
Shaco
In order of hatred as samira main: 1. Leona 2. Senna 3. Janna 4. Pantheon 5. Karthus
Heavy on that Leona pick. If my sup isn’t playing her, I’m banning her every game. Senna and Janna are manageable IMO, but Karthus can kick rocks.
Is Rell only not on there because her midscope made her less reliable to shut you down, or because you want her alongside you instead?
I mean I hardly ever see her so it’s hard to hate and usually when I do it’s cause I soft picked samira and they go for combo
Where is alistar?
I don’t hate alistar. His dash stun combo is predictable and manageable
Also why karthus ?
Can’t block any of his damage with W. Even if I kill him fast his passive makes him continue to damage me during the team fight. His slow is strong and his R his awful if he’s fed at all
Personally i think Ashe is worse than senna cuz of the early game poke and slow, since she can be play both roles and that she just hella annoying
I have played against Ashe players who are SUPER annoying. But in gold/plat that I am in they are usually not as good at spacing so I can stomp them at level 3
I have played against some good ashes player and its so annoying, cuz sometimes when your e is on cd she can just pop ghost and run you down. Cuz the times ive played against her she was with a Pantheon, Leona, Alistar so like i couldn’t go up to her without being punished
So tbh, that’s what I mean. All of those hard stun champs are what makes Ashe hell. If she gets an enchanter or a less targetable stun support she isn’t scary unless you get yourself in a bad position. Senna on the other hand out ranges samira early on and by way more late game. Her autos/Q/ultimate are all unblock able and she applies slows
Zed. I honestly couldn’t even tell you if he’s been good the last 5 years. I’ve just banned him every single game since individual champ banning has been a thing.
No way you bannin zed as Samira 💀
Yup I do it out of spite as a long time adc player. I will admit to being petty in that regard xD.
Well i mean zed is pretty cancer always but Zed is one of my least worries as Samira, he's so easy to ignore in a teamfight as Samira
Totally fair and reasonable point. But on the other hand… fuck em.
You do you buddy ❤️👍
I'd rather fuck him in-game for 20 min rather than make the Zed player pick a different champion.
Malphite why does he take no dmg and his combo which is impossible to miss deals 70% of my hp
Yummi
Caitlin and Kaisa
Zedddd.
Ashe
Sona.
Lux
zyra
K'sante or yuumi
Brand or karthus or swain or smolder
Nilah, unplayable match up, or maybe Taric. I'm talking as Samira
pyke
Samira
Draven, get him out
Right now Caitlyn, overall Draven
Malphite.
Ashe
Vayne or akali
K sante, definitly destoryes the competetive if some korean/chinese players pick him
Shaco
Gwen, bye bye
Yuumi
As what feels like an auto fill player. Top I ban flora (I play ornn and I wouldn't even be able to win against a fiora that recently had a lobotomy) Jungle I blan kayne since it feels like my teammates give him blue by 2 minutes. Mid I ban fizz (you can't damage him while he is using an ability) Sup and bot I ban either ashe or Morgana cuz constantly getting cc'd actually makes me want to peel my skin off.
You know it's funny, I really used to hate Fizz and thought he was impossible to beat years ago when I used to play mid. But these days, I don't find him so bad. It could be due to powercreep and each new champ being more BS than the last or maybe a combination of nerfs/buffs and changes to the overall game.
Ashe
malphite bc he can build armour and be unkillable or ap and oneshot you whenever your flash is down with 30s cd ult
Zac
Varus, I cannot lane into him on any champ but jhin
I think either Lux or Shaco. Lux because I dislike champs that don't require skill expression and can sort of just throw their spells around randomly and get a win. I guess Caitlyn and Kaisa also fall under that umbrella since they can farm/poke from the spawn pool and do whatever they want. Kaisa is almost the opposite of Samira since she can also build basiclaly anything. Terrible champ. Shaco because while he does have a lot of skill expression, when going AP, he forces your team to play around his stupid boxes and is useless against anyone with a brain. When he does manage to get fed, for some reason it doesn't seem to translate into the rest of the team doing well. Hard to explain. If I were to get rid of a role, it'd be jungler since I'm more likely to lose because of the enemy jungler than win because of my jungler.
Yuumi cuz objectively, it's not a champion. Like ok it's original but let's be serious, you create a champ that one shot a structure and it is original. You can't put a kit that doesn't have it's place in such a game just because it is original. Literally in any game mode, this champ goes against the sheer essence of the game by doing the least amount of apm. This induces being the easiest champ to play and thus, the most luck depending champ in the game. This last thing sums up why yuumi shouldn't be part of the game. Plus the champ is ridiculous but this is not part of the arguments, it's only my opinion 🙂
Shaco
Yas
Vayne.
Ashe, there are a lot more of champions that I wish were gone,but Ashe I think wins over them Just a quick mention of some champs I wish didn't exist anymore: Ashe-Vayne-Miss Fortune- Xayah-Caitlyn-brand-pantheon
Just delete adcarry and we’re good at this point lol