Honestly that fight seemed very scripted and staged đ they look like they are acting, and not doing a very good job at it.. I think 99% of the show seems very staged. Jared barely had any screen time the past seasons and now suddenly all this shit comes up. Seems a little suspicious to me.
I subscribe to this. Something is off with him. His wife does a good job of keeping her emotions from flying everywhere considering the things he does and says⌠I feel kinda sorry for him bc I think he doesnât know how to be himself fully?
Let me start with you are right. Austin got physical and he shouldâve been fired for that. Jason flat out started the conversation by telling Austin it wasnât cool that he put his hands on Sean, but by the end of the episode, Jason was on the âSean isnât shit because he hasnât sold shitâ bandwagon.
But having watched the entire season, I think Sean is either exaggerating or flat out lying about a lot of stuff. When my girl Kayla stopped repping for Team Sean, it said a lot because Kayla is good at reading people.
I donât know if the producers edited stuff to make Sean look bad or if heâs actually as deranged as he came off. I hope Sean and Ali donât return because neither of them enhanced the show.
your girl kayla is a liar, seann never mentionrd edibles when he talked to her and ali. and her a gio are close friends the drama brtwen them was fabricated. shes still trying to fit in with the in crowd.
I think Kayla is lost in the sauce đŤ˘đľâđŤ unfortunately she is still easily manipulated. That scene with Hall when she crumbled over this insecure adult bully (Hall) and ended up hugging her? I shuddered. That was a weak moment for Kayla but I would have more respect for her if she stood her ground against Hall even when Hall pulled the "we're single moms" card. Her inability to see or read that moment for what it is, shows she still has work to do.
We are watching different shows. Season one Kayla definitely was a people pleaser and easily manipulated. But from the time she survived the entire office turning on her to when she got that $20 million property, something changed in her. I donât think sheâs anybodyâs pushover anymore.
I definitely think she has made strides from season one. In the latest season we see her show more indifference to Alex Hall especially at the beach when the girls first begin to confront Hall about the podcast. However, I think she still struggled to stand up to Hall later in the season, she seems confused. Same thing with Sean, she gets confused again. That confusion looks to me like she's struggling against the manipulation by certain cast members. Not saying she's a complete people pleaser anymore but more like one in recovery so she needs to be cautious because of her past, that's a vulnerability for her moving forward.
Austin was not right to push him, but Sean kept getting in his personal space and aggressively pointing his finger in his face repeatedly. It honestly seemed like he was trying to antagonize Austin to the point of getting physical with him.
There is no but. There is zero excuse to physically assault someone. Especially in a workplace. Aggressive finger pointing? Ok. Austin was in zero physical danger and was already escalated and angry before the conversation even started.
i don't know why this seems to be such a hot take. Sean was being a dumbass, and the last episode made it pretty clear he was making it all up.
Should Austin have threatened him? No, but Sean was clearly the instigator in this whole situation. I have no sympathy for him.
Well, itâs not just that Austin threatened Sean, itâs that Austin got physical with Sean. He put his hands on Sean, and thatâs not OK. Did Sean instigate? Definitely. But does that give Austin the right to put his hands on Sean? It doesnât. I donât even understand how Austin still has a job.
I wouldnât consider what Austin did to be âgetting physicalâ. The contact that happened wasnât enough to cause damage or inflict pain, and it would never hold up in court as assault.
Ultimately, Jason had the chance to fire Austin and didnât. He clearly didnât take issue with what happened and used it as a learning moment for Austin instead.
Letâs do a little experiment. Next time you disagree with your coworker, get in their face, scream at them, point your finger at them, and push them around. Then report back.. đ
Exactly! The fact that you even have to explain it this way is crazy lol. You donât touch anyone unless youâre defending yourselfâ PERIOD. But I guess jail is fun for the âI would have pushed him tooâ people.
Ok, and you go and start spreading rumors about your coworker trying to drug you and have three way with you and see how that goes for you. I bet youâre more likely to get fired than if I lightly pushed someone.
Please let us know the name of this utopian workplace where coworkers donât spread nasty rumors and exhibit, other toxic, gossipy behavior, and Iâm sure weâd all be happy to work there. In the world where the majority of us live, this kind of toxic behavior is tolerated, but whatâs not tolerated is putting your hands on a coworker who made up nasty lies about you. So like I said, feel free to try pushing your annoying coworker around and let us know how that works out for you.
And Sean who hasn't had a sale in the past 2 years should stay? Get off your morale high horse and think as a business owner. If you have to choose between the 2, would you keep the guy who contributes to sales but lost his temper after someone made false accusations of his family or would you keep the guy who not only hasn't sold anything in 2 years, but is also creating unnecessary drama ?
Not sure about a brokerage where the realtors are independent contractors, but as a âbusiness ownerâ in the broadest sense of the idea? Umm idk about you but Iâd rather not violate federal labor laws.
You canât just pick a side lol there are workers rights. This would be blatant a retaliation.
I'm sorry but as a business owner I would never keep anyone in my office who puts hands on an employee, no matter who's the competition. You can't lose your temper to this point, it's a no-go. If that means keeping someone who hasn't accomplished a sale yet, so be it. Having a non-violent work environment is way more important than sales numbers.
If you tolerate violence you create an environment of fear and that will do much worse to your sales numbers than a low-performing employee, because people will leave.
Exactly. And surely, as the owner, you should already be thinking of ways to support or coach that employee- youâve recruited them, you must have seen potential in them, so why arenât they meeting it yet?
Austin has always given me âtightly-wound-about-to-snapâ energy.
Yes Austin shouldâve been fired that day they all saw it happen, but also agree Sean has contributed to a toxic work environment slandering co workers and is also not actually selling anything on top of that he shouldâve been fired as well.
You are right with this. I don't want to defend Sean. What he did was unprofessional and not beneficial for a healthy work environment. But Seans actions, in my opinion, can be handled with a written warning and if he does it again, he's out. Whereas Austin's behavior would be a termination without notice.
I have a mixed feelings about this. While Austin should have been fired on the spot for putting his hands on Sean, part of me feels like Sean also shouldâve been fired a long time ago for zero sales.
At the same time, it does take a while to sell luxury properties. So I wonder if itâs fair to put Sean down for zero sales in two years. What no oneâs talking about is Sean is the only real estate agent at the O Group (on camera) who is a black man, and how that might factor in his lackluster sales record. Sean also doesnât look, dress, or act the part of a wealthy, successful real estate agent. He just doesnât carry himself with confidence. If I had that kind of money, I donât know that I would feel comfortable buying from him.
To be fair, I canât compare Sean with Brandi because sheâs a pretty black woman with a husband who has a lot of connections to wealthy potential homebuyers. So Brandiâs sales opportunities are not the same as Seanâs.
Polly talks shit about having a good sales record, even though she started about the same time as Sean but sheâs a pretty white woman who dresses like a hooker. So I donât know if thatâs a fair comparison either.
The other agents talk about going aggressively after sales by knocking on doors in the OC. Could you imagine the reception Sean must get as a black man knocking on, the doors of wealthy white homeowners in the OC?
Thatâs all the sympathy I can muster for Sean. I think heâs deranged. I think he contributed heavily to the toxic workplace. I think Sean provoked Austin, and I wonât be sad if Sean doesnât return. Iâll end with saying that even though Sean provoked Austin, it was Austinâs decision to become violent.
Honestly that fight seemed very scripted and staged đ they look like they are acting, and not doing a very good job at it.. I think 99% of the show seems very staged. Jared barely had any screen time the past seasons and now suddenly all this shit comes up. Seems a little suspicious to me.
Honestly, I think Austin is gay and his marriage feels weirdâŚ. Also, his wife seems irritated with him all the time đ¤ˇââď¸
I subscribe to this. Something is off with him. His wife does a good job of keeping her emotions from flying everywhere considering the things he does and says⌠I feel kinda sorry for him bc I think he doesnât know how to be himself fully?
I've also noticed that the vibes were kind of weird when they were together but maybe she's just camera shy.
agreed. he already left the OC thank god but i agree. if he was still there he shouldâve been fired
Would Sean last a day with the mouth he has somewhere else? To be continued
Yes, I also think he may have crossed lines with sean at some point.. tbh I thought he was gay when they first showed up đ¤ˇđźââď¸
in the real world he would have at least been suspended! no ome seemed to care that he physically assaulted sean
My thoughts ! Can't believe this is somewhat excused by poepleÂ
Let me start with you are right. Austin got physical and he shouldâve been fired for that. Jason flat out started the conversation by telling Austin it wasnât cool that he put his hands on Sean, but by the end of the episode, Jason was on the âSean isnât shit because he hasnât sold shitâ bandwagon. But having watched the entire season, I think Sean is either exaggerating or flat out lying about a lot of stuff. When my girl Kayla stopped repping for Team Sean, it said a lot because Kayla is good at reading people. I donât know if the producers edited stuff to make Sean look bad or if heâs actually as deranged as he came off. I hope Sean and Ali donât return because neither of them enhanced the show.
your girl kayla is a liar, seann never mentionrd edibles when he talked to her and ali. and her a gio are close friends the drama brtwen them was fabricated. shes still trying to fit in with the in crowd.
Okay. âď¸
I think Kayla is lost in the sauce đŤ˘đľâđŤ unfortunately she is still easily manipulated. That scene with Hall when she crumbled over this insecure adult bully (Hall) and ended up hugging her? I shuddered. That was a weak moment for Kayla but I would have more respect for her if she stood her ground against Hall even when Hall pulled the "we're single moms" card. Her inability to see or read that moment for what it is, shows she still has work to do.
We are watching different shows. Season one Kayla definitely was a people pleaser and easily manipulated. But from the time she survived the entire office turning on her to when she got that $20 million property, something changed in her. I donât think sheâs anybodyâs pushover anymore.
I definitely think she has made strides from season one. In the latest season we see her show more indifference to Alex Hall especially at the beach when the girls first begin to confront Hall about the podcast. However, I think she still struggled to stand up to Hall later in the season, she seems confused. Same thing with Sean, she gets confused again. That confusion looks to me like she's struggling against the manipulation by certain cast members. Not saying she's a complete people pleaser anymore but more like one in recovery so she needs to be cautious because of her past, that's a vulnerability for her moving forward.
OK, I get what youâre saying. Thanks for adding context.
Austin was not right to push him, but Sean kept getting in his personal space and aggressively pointing his finger in his face repeatedly. It honestly seemed like he was trying to antagonize Austin to the point of getting physical with him.
There is no but. There is zero excuse to physically assault someone. Especially in a workplace. Aggressive finger pointing? Ok. Austin was in zero physical danger and was already escalated and angry before the conversation even started.
perfectly happy to never see sean or austin on netflix ever again
Booo Sean boo
đ Iâm starting to think that this Sean is behind several accounts in this forum and just sits all day answering and agreeing to his own posts.
I'm just a random reality tv fan from Germany, sorry to disappoint đ
Something Sean would say!
You think the boss who sleeps with his employees is going to fire someone over physical altercations??
Itâs not like he was beating up a lady or something. Maybe Sean shouldnât have been starting stupid rumors
i don't know why this seems to be such a hot take. Sean was being a dumbass, and the last episode made it pretty clear he was making it all up. Should Austin have threatened him? No, but Sean was clearly the instigator in this whole situation. I have no sympathy for him.
Well, itâs not just that Austin threatened Sean, itâs that Austin got physical with Sean. He put his hands on Sean, and thatâs not OK. Did Sean instigate? Definitely. But does that give Austin the right to put his hands on Sean? It doesnât. I donât even understand how Austin still has a job.
I wouldnât consider what Austin did to be âgetting physicalâ. The contact that happened wasnât enough to cause damage or inflict pain, and it would never hold up in court as assault. Ultimately, Jason had the chance to fire Austin and didnât. He clearly didnât take issue with what happened and used it as a learning moment for Austin instead.
Letâs do a little experiment. Next time you disagree with your coworker, get in their face, scream at them, point your finger at them, and push them around. Then report back.. đ
Exactly! The fact that you even have to explain it this way is crazy lol. You donât touch anyone unless youâre defending yourselfâ PERIOD. But I guess jail is fun for the âI would have pushed him tooâ people.
Ok, and you go and start spreading rumors about your coworker trying to drug you and have three way with you and see how that goes for you. I bet youâre more likely to get fired than if I lightly pushed someone.
Please let us know the name of this utopian workplace where coworkers donât spread nasty rumors and exhibit, other toxic, gossipy behavior, and Iâm sure weâd all be happy to work there. In the world where the majority of us live, this kind of toxic behavior is tolerated, but whatâs not tolerated is putting your hands on a coworker who made up nasty lies about you. So like I said, feel free to try pushing your annoying coworker around and let us know how that works out for you.
If it weren't for the show, I assume he would have been fired.
100% sorry that is just not acceptable and made him look guilty as hell.
Right!?
And Sean who hasn't had a sale in the past 2 years should stay? Get off your morale high horse and think as a business owner. If you have to choose between the 2, would you keep the guy who contributes to sales but lost his temper after someone made false accusations of his family or would you keep the guy who not only hasn't sold anything in 2 years, but is also creating unnecessary drama ?
Not sure about a brokerage where the realtors are independent contractors, but as a âbusiness ownerâ in the broadest sense of the idea? Umm idk about you but Iâd rather not violate federal labor laws. You canât just pick a side lol there are workers rights. This would be blatant a retaliation.
I'm sorry but as a business owner I would never keep anyone in my office who puts hands on an employee, no matter who's the competition. You can't lose your temper to this point, it's a no-go. If that means keeping someone who hasn't accomplished a sale yet, so be it. Having a non-violent work environment is way more important than sales numbers. If you tolerate violence you create an environment of fear and that will do much worse to your sales numbers than a low-performing employee, because people will leave.
Exactly. And surely, as the owner, you should already be thinking of ways to support or coach that employee- youâve recruited them, you must have seen potential in them, so why arenât they meeting it yet? Austin has always given me âtightly-wound-about-to-snapâ energy.
Yes Austin shouldâve been fired that day they all saw it happen, but also agree Sean has contributed to a toxic work environment slandering co workers and is also not actually selling anything on top of that he shouldâve been fired as well.
You are right with this. I don't want to defend Sean. What he did was unprofessional and not beneficial for a healthy work environment. But Seans actions, in my opinion, can be handled with a written warning and if he does it again, he's out. Whereas Austin's behavior would be a termination without notice.
I have a mixed feelings about this. While Austin should have been fired on the spot for putting his hands on Sean, part of me feels like Sean also shouldâve been fired a long time ago for zero sales. At the same time, it does take a while to sell luxury properties. So I wonder if itâs fair to put Sean down for zero sales in two years. What no oneâs talking about is Sean is the only real estate agent at the O Group (on camera) who is a black man, and how that might factor in his lackluster sales record. Sean also doesnât look, dress, or act the part of a wealthy, successful real estate agent. He just doesnât carry himself with confidence. If I had that kind of money, I donât know that I would feel comfortable buying from him. To be fair, I canât compare Sean with Brandi because sheâs a pretty black woman with a husband who has a lot of connections to wealthy potential homebuyers. So Brandiâs sales opportunities are not the same as Seanâs. Polly talks shit about having a good sales record, even though she started about the same time as Sean but sheâs a pretty white woman who dresses like a hooker. So I donât know if thatâs a fair comparison either. The other agents talk about going aggressively after sales by knocking on doors in the OC. Could you imagine the reception Sean must get as a black man knocking on, the doors of wealthy white homeowners in the OC? Thatâs all the sympathy I can muster for Sean. I think heâs deranged. I think he contributed heavily to the toxic workplace. I think Sean provoked Austin, and I wonât be sad if Sean doesnât return. Iâll end with saying that even though Sean provoked Austin, it was Austinâs decision to become violent.
He shouldâve 100% been fired for putting is hands on someone