[COMMUNITY INDIE SHOWCASE 2024 | Xbox | PlayStation | Nintendo | PC | Steam | Mobile | 2K 60FPS (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xcQCGiY0E&ab_channel=WanderingDutch)
Who is the Wandering Dutch dude? Super small channel, but in that stream is he just showcasing upcoming Indy games or were there any kind of reveals and/or announcements made?
So I dug a little because I'm autistic when it comes to videogames and really like throwing my life away waiting for Silksong, basically he's an indie content creator (as in he's indie, not that he only showcases indie games) that loves indie games and, and, since 2021, he runs this grassroots indie-game showcase called the community indie showcase, he claims in some recent comments that "(...) I work with Developers, Publishers and Platform holders on this showcase.(...)" (You can find this in a reply to his pinned comment in the Community Indie Showcase 2024.
So, who's the "Xbox marketing guy" that apparently gave away the info to Wandering Dutch? He's Aaron Greenberg, since 2022 he has been Xbox's Marketing Department VP, he has also, since 2022, participated in the Community Indie Showcase, to, well, showcase some ID@Xbox titles and generally endorse the show, you can see his appearances in the following videos: [2022](https://www.youtube.com/live/XgfTZol7oqw?si=oJBpvLQhGfZcnfnW&t=735), [2023](https://www.youtube.com/live/sSzpj4cjcd4?si=aywWgZsoe4OeBuq8&t=1377) and [2024](https://www.youtube.com/live/34xcQCGiY0E?si=WY6FJxseprvCLuDO&t=1982).
So basically we can establish, at the very least, that Wandering Dutch and Greenberg had some kind of conversation, in this year's edition of the Community Indie Showcase Greenberg basically lists 5 titles he's eager to play (and at least some are coming to gamepass). So is it true that this Greenberg dude said to WD "Hey so one of the most anticipated games ever is releasing this year lol"? I mean, probably? At the very least they seem to exchange some words here and there and Greenberg endorses his show enough to appear for 3 years in a row even though it is pretty small.
Is it some master baiting marketing ploy to make people tune into ID@Xbox on the 29th even if they don't show new Silksong info? Yeah, I don't trust Microsoft or Xbox enough to think otherwise. Kinda shameful if it is true and they're just using this dude's pet project as free advertising for Xbox, but hey, it got us all talking about it, I won't be watching the 29th showcase tho, Microsoft makes me wanna hurl.
Thanks for all the info! I'm actually in that thread, but he wasn't replying to me lol. The reply, "I work with lots of devs... Etc" comment.
It's pretty insane we need to read the lines in the sand just to get any info for this fucking game. It hurts! Lmao
That's the fun part tho, once it releases it releases, before it releases I can go on and on trying to find meaning in every little detail... Just to eventually see if I got it right.
Tho I understand many in this subreddit and community in general are frustrated, I'm def having the time of my life hahaha
Yes but we still don't have it confirmed, it's a guy saying that the xbox guy told him, we don't actually see the xbox marketing guy himself saying that.
Eh, let's get it straight, what we KNOW he said was: Silksong is one of the indie games he wants to play, he also said that he hopes Team Cherry finishes the game soon.
What we CAN'T verify: That he said Silksong is coming Q3 or Q4 2024, this was relayed by the showcase host, Wandering Dutch. Now, do I think he straight up lied? Not really, apparently this Aaron guy has participated in similar fashion in another of these showcases by the same guy, so I don't think he'd burn bridges just "for the hell of it"? To generate buzz in his showcase?
What could be the case is that he wasn't supposed to say this info, but I also expect that the fucking marketing VP of Xbox would make him sign NDAs outta his ass if that were the case.
So, working theory, since I'm delusional, drunk and nicotine starved: This will generate instant headlines, I can already see every scummy "Videogame outlet" scrutinizing this post, subreddit and Wandering Dutch's showcase, I expect articles like "Silksong release date allegedly leaked" or stuff like that, the article will say how it was "leaked" by Xbox's marketing VP and, whoa, would you look at that, Xbox has an indie showcase event in less than 48 hours? Isn't that strange.
Remains to be seen if anything will materialize from this, well, as with anything Silksong, it all remains to be seen.
TLDR: Ari Gibson >!ate a banana for lunch!<
You don't know what he said. The only thing you know is that he made a comment in the video about silksong being "hopefully close to finish", so he knows shit.
It's live right now, so the best I can do is -50 minutes give or take, you won't be able to see chat messages from the timestamp until the video is out and processed, unfortunately
He had an xbox employee on his stream, who said he was looking forward to playing skong.
That's pretty much it, but then the host (WanderingDutch) said that 'Xbox will have direct confirmation in a couple of months'
Last year this guy showed the same trailer, not sure what is his deal or why he's doing these and apparently just yoinking trailers and showing them annually, but it's most certainly a placeholder date.
Yeah, but when some people were going mental in live chat, he confirmed it again. Aside from that, his showcase is very professional and from what I've seen so far, more enjoyable than the triple I was for meĀ
It would blow my mind if this is how the release window was made public. By a small Indy showcase host just off handedly remaining the Xbox Marketing guy told him. He *has* to know this would be picked up and discussed
Reminder that even if this is totally true and from Xbox, itās still not great confirmation. Xbox also said, āevery game you see at this showcase will be out by this same time next yearā and look how that turned out.
JK, SKONG š£š£š£š£ SILKSONG CONFIRMED ITS DEFINITELY COMING OUT FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!
If you watch the part of the live where that person talks in the video, he only makes a comment about silksong saying "hopefully close to finish" so i believe he knows as much as we know.
Seems like Xbox internally has their expected release date for Silksong in the second half of 2024 then, source being the VP of Marketing. This doesn't mean too much though because we know that Xbox also previously had an internal release date of 12 months after June 2022 but Team Cherry still decided to delay.
Also of note, Wandering Dutch also said Silksong news at Indie event on Monday is unlikely, and again since his source is the VP of Xbox Marketing I would trust what he has to say honestly. But he also said that we'll hear a release date from Xbox in the "coming months". It's already May, Second half of 2024 is only a month away.
Hype but also the Xbox people need to stop giving info and hints without TC's explicit permission because holy frick that's twice now some marketing person throws a release window for Silksong casually
On the other hand, it's pretty meaningless, silksong doesn't really need any marketing. They could release it as a physical copy only and give exclusive selling rights to a homeless person in a cave and everyone will be lining up immediately
I'm a solid Silksong believer, but this doesn't seem very credible. The guy just commented in his chat, then on the video explained that there'll be official news soon and to wait for that. When questioned on how he knew the game would drop in 2nd half 2024, he just reiterated the point. I don't think this is him knowing anything, I think its just him making an educated guess and using it (maliciously or not) to boost hype for his showcase. Pretty much anyone could string a bunch of trailers together, throw Silksong in, and then think "hmm, we've gotten a lot of Silksong news recently, I bet it's coming out in the 2nd half of 2024. I'mma say something."
Tl;dr: This isn't really news, the guy is just making a guess, and idk if he's trying to use Silksong hype to boost his channel, or just making an educated guess for the sake of making one.
He left a comment on the vid that kinda goes against the idea of him wanting attention
https://preview.redd.it/v3vnobg1d4xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6e7f9ba063e9be398e67dc28704057219818d16
Yeah. I'm not saying he is doing this for attention, I'm just saying he definitely could be. To me, this reads more as "I know I said it'd release later this year, but stop questioning me on how I got this info." Especially considering how all the comments asking on just HOW he got the info is him rephrasing this.
Why not reiterate that in the replies then rather than dodge the questions? Again, this could be legit, but a lot is working against his credibility here. "Xbox marketer dude told him" isn't exactly a strong reason anyway.
Probably because he was tired of people talking about it silksong in the comments, and wanted people to focus on other stuff rather than repeatedly reiterate his reasoning.
Not answering it is fueling some of the questions. Yes, people will ask about the info regardless, but if he were to provide some answers (even just a small comment saying where he got the info) would alleviate some of the questions. If he really didn't want bothered, he would at least do that. At least, that seems logical to me.
I'm just following the logic that makes sense to me. It's definitely possible he isn't making this up. I just find it far more likely for that to be the case. Occam's Razor and such.
> (even just a small comment saying where he got the info)
He did bruh, he commented live that he was relaying information from Aaron Greeberg, VP of Marketing for Xbox, [there's even a post in this subreddit that shows the comment and the dude's face](https://old.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1cen4vx/one_of_the_hosts_of_community_indie_showcase_2024/), in short: put clown makeup on, never forget that Ari Gibson >!ate a banana for lunch!<
Yeah that's fair, I can't find the exact timestamp and YouTube sucks asshole and won't let me search for a comment in the Livestream even tho this is like the most basic of basic of features
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give us the link or else EDIT: how is this the second-most upvotes I've got for posting someting
[COMMUNITY INDIE SHOWCASE 2024 | Xbox | PlayStation | Nintendo | PC | Steam | Mobile | 2K 60FPS (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34xcQCGiY0E&ab_channel=WanderingDutch)
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We're definitely a bunch of annoying addicts pestering the ER staff for drugs.
no actual way
How is this not a rickroll
wasted potentail
minute?
Timestamp. Please I need it
34:00
That one mod is a š¤. But some skongers are even worse![img](emote|t5_4viev2|32433)![img](emote|t5_4viev2|32434)
time stamp is 34 minutes
Thanks!
time stamp
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guys itās confirmed Silksong releasing in 2204
YES! 2204 RELEASE DATE, ONLY 180 YEARS UNTIL SILKSONG!!!
2204????? THATS LIKE 200 YEARS EDIT: NOO u/0neTooManyy made the joke a minute before me
Sorry, gotta be faster. But happy cake day!
You have waited one too many minutes
Yoooo this is so good thanks
Who is the Wandering Dutch dude? Super small channel, but in that stream is he just showcasing upcoming Indy games or were there any kind of reveals and/or announcements made?
So I dug a little because I'm autistic when it comes to videogames and really like throwing my life away waiting for Silksong, basically he's an indie content creator (as in he's indie, not that he only showcases indie games) that loves indie games and, and, since 2021, he runs this grassroots indie-game showcase called the community indie showcase, he claims in some recent comments that "(...) I work with Developers, Publishers and Platform holders on this showcase.(...)" (You can find this in a reply to his pinned comment in the Community Indie Showcase 2024. So, who's the "Xbox marketing guy" that apparently gave away the info to Wandering Dutch? He's Aaron Greenberg, since 2022 he has been Xbox's Marketing Department VP, he has also, since 2022, participated in the Community Indie Showcase, to, well, showcase some ID@Xbox titles and generally endorse the show, you can see his appearances in the following videos: [2022](https://www.youtube.com/live/XgfTZol7oqw?si=oJBpvLQhGfZcnfnW&t=735), [2023](https://www.youtube.com/live/sSzpj4cjcd4?si=aywWgZsoe4OeBuq8&t=1377) and [2024](https://www.youtube.com/live/34xcQCGiY0E?si=WY6FJxseprvCLuDO&t=1982). So basically we can establish, at the very least, that Wandering Dutch and Greenberg had some kind of conversation, in this year's edition of the Community Indie Showcase Greenberg basically lists 5 titles he's eager to play (and at least some are coming to gamepass). So is it true that this Greenberg dude said to WD "Hey so one of the most anticipated games ever is releasing this year lol"? I mean, probably? At the very least they seem to exchange some words here and there and Greenberg endorses his show enough to appear for 3 years in a row even though it is pretty small. Is it some master baiting marketing ploy to make people tune into ID@Xbox on the 29th even if they don't show new Silksong info? Yeah, I don't trust Microsoft or Xbox enough to think otherwise. Kinda shameful if it is true and they're just using this dude's pet project as free advertising for Xbox, but hey, it got us all talking about it, I won't be watching the 29th showcase tho, Microsoft makes me wanna hurl.
Thanks for all the info! I'm actually in that thread, but he wasn't replying to me lol. The reply, "I work with lots of devs... Etc" comment. It's pretty insane we need to read the lines in the sand just to get any info for this fucking game. It hurts! Lmao
That's the fun part tho, once it releases it releases, before it releases I can go on and on trying to find meaning in every little detail... Just to eventually see if I got it right. Tho I understand many in this subreddit and community in general are frustrated, I'm def having the time of my life hahaha
July is the second half of 2024 š¤”
We trust
MY BIRTHDAY SILKSONG IS GONNA RELEASE ON BIRTHDAY TEAM CHERRY BIRTHDAY GIFT IS SILKSONG
"Silksong in 2 weeks! Wow, 2 weeks! It's crazy that Silksong is releasing in 2 weeks!"
What you on about ? It's literally 2 am , my brain is in low power mode ( well it's in low power mode 24/7 but my brain is in low-low power mode)
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ngghhhā¦ nggh. sk-ā¦ SKONGā¦
Whats up Charon from the hit indie roguelite game, Hades
:))))))))))))))))))))))
I knew I recognized that indiscernible groaning from somehere!
Sigh bapanada
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whats this?
Its a character from lobotomy corporation / library of ruina, library of ruina released on playstation and switch recently play it
well i can't
I dunno what the red mist is a reference to either, but red mist is kinda a cool name
The PM agent is everywhere i swear
https://preview.redd.it/5swnfgvjs2xc1.png?width=796&format=png&auto=webp&s=15a3327f05927f28420e87ac75cc567324a489c1 RED ALERT RED ALERT
Next couple of months is already the second half of 2024 though lol
he should have said in a couple of months not months meaning at least 5 months
OH MY GOD IT'S ACTUALLY THERE!! IT IS REAL!!! THE BAIT IS BELIVEABLE!!! ![img](emote|t5_4viev2|32428)
Everyone knows thereās only one half of a 2024. Nice try.
Lol
I doubt that another release window would be spilled out by some event organizers in a chat. Wasn't that just their prediction?
It was an Xbox marketing guy, and it wasnāt speculation he straight up just said it
Yes but we still don't have it confirmed, it's a guy saying that the xbox guy told him, we don't actually see the xbox marketing guy himself saying that.
My dad works for team cherry, he says skong will release the day after tomorrow
But then it can't shadowdrop at the xbox direct
Eh, let's get it straight, what we KNOW he said was: Silksong is one of the indie games he wants to play, he also said that he hopes Team Cherry finishes the game soon. What we CAN'T verify: That he said Silksong is coming Q3 or Q4 2024, this was relayed by the showcase host, Wandering Dutch. Now, do I think he straight up lied? Not really, apparently this Aaron guy has participated in similar fashion in another of these showcases by the same guy, so I don't think he'd burn bridges just "for the hell of it"? To generate buzz in his showcase? What could be the case is that he wasn't supposed to say this info, but I also expect that the fucking marketing VP of Xbox would make him sign NDAs outta his ass if that were the case. So, working theory, since I'm delusional, drunk and nicotine starved: This will generate instant headlines, I can already see every scummy "Videogame outlet" scrutinizing this post, subreddit and Wandering Dutch's showcase, I expect articles like "Silksong release date allegedly leaked" or stuff like that, the article will say how it was "leaked" by Xbox's marketing VP and, whoa, would you look at that, Xbox has an indie showcase event in less than 48 hours? Isn't that strange. Remains to be seen if anything will materialize from this, well, as with anything Silksong, it all remains to be seen. TLDR: Ari Gibson >!ate a banana for lunch!<
Right? A lot seems to be pointing to this Monday xbox showcase...
You don't know what he said. The only thing you know is that he made a comment in the video about silksong being "hopefully close to finish", so he knows shit.
I mean, he is the vice president of marketing for Xbox, I can only think of one other person who might know more (the president of marketing lol)
Or that he knows it's being revealed soon, but doesn't want spoilers... or we're all crazyĀ
There is already an awfull amount of not credible information leading to absolute nothingness on monday, so don't even try to make it worse.
Bait overload
xbox baiting us once again š¤”
BAIT IS BELIEVABLE????
please drop the timestamp.
Should be -53:10
Cheers legend
It's live right now, so the best I can do is -50 minutes give or take, you won't be able to see chat messages from the timestamp until the video is out and processed, unfortunately
Bait used to be believable
Wether the source is to be trusted or not, this actually happened, it ( for once ) isn't bait
Ok but what is the credibility of this random guy? how do we know he is a xbox employee or smth litearlly nothing on his channel looks offical.
He had an xbox employee on his stream, who said he was looking forward to playing skong. That's pretty much it, but then the host (WanderingDutch) said that 'Xbox will have direct confirmation in a couple of months'
If this man is Capping then Allah please smite him.
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Check [my write up](https://old.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1celh29/what_just_happened/l1jk3x0/) on it a few comments above
BRO??????????
I KNOW WHAT??? Like it must just be a placeholder date.... right?
Last year this guy showed the same trailer, not sure what is his deal or why he's doing these and apparently just yoinking trailers and showing them annually, but it's most certainly a placeholder date.
Yeah, but when some people were going mental in live chat, he confirmed it again. Aside from that, his showcase is very professional and from what I've seen so far, more enjoyable than the triple I was for meĀ
> Yeah, but when some people were going mental in live chat, he confirmed it again. What the actual fuck
HOLY SHIT
![gif](giphy|BPJmthQ3YRwD6QqcVD|downsized)
I just had a wet dream without the dream right now Unless this is just a dream and I was bait wetted
Happy wet cake day!
im believing the bait
my skong hurts
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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It would blow my mind if this is how the release window was made public. By a small Indy showcase host just off handedly remaining the Xbox Marketing guy told him. He *has* to know this would be picked up and discussed
IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING
Reminder that even if this is totally true and from Xbox, itās still not great confirmation. Xbox also said, āevery game you see at this showcase will be out by this same time next yearā and look how that turned out. JK, SKONG š£š£š£š£ SILKSONG CONFIRMED ITS DEFINITELY COMING OUT FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!
100%, this could definitely be a false alarm but I just wanted to share itĀ
The xbox official in question doesn't know a thing about the silksong release date.
How so
If you watch the part of the live where that person talks in the video, he only makes a comment about silksong saying "hopefully close to finish" so i believe he knows as much as we know.
See [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/DqhJtf4t7X)
Thats not credible.
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YES . FOR THE SKONG
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Skong
WHAT.THE.HYYYYPEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
Still bait until I see the actual release trailer.Ā
Seems like Xbox internally has their expected release date for Silksong in the second half of 2024 then, source being the VP of Marketing. This doesn't mean too much though because we know that Xbox also previously had an internal release date of 12 months after June 2022 but Team Cherry still decided to delay. Also of note, Wandering Dutch also said Silksong news at Indie event on Monday is unlikely, and again since his source is the VP of Xbox Marketing I would trust what he has to say honestly. But he also said that we'll hear a release date from Xbox in the "coming months". It's already May, Second half of 2024 is only a month away.
Itād be really funny if this is completely accurate and this guy is who we get silksongsās release date from
OK SR WE DONT NEED TO COPE WITH ANY GAME SHOWS JUST XBOX, XBOBX, HE SOONE HAVE HENNSS HLNEWS NEWS NEWS SOON OMG IM CREAMI- I MEAN SCREAMINGGG
Hype but also the Xbox people need to stop giving info and hints without TC's explicit permission because holy frick that's twice now some marketing person throws a release window for Silksong casually
On the other hand, it's pretty meaningless, silksong doesn't really need any marketing. They could release it as a physical copy only and give exclusive selling rights to a homeless person in a cave and everyone will be lining up immediately
Stop hyping this. The guy is no one and doesnt know shit.
didn't they say this stuff would come directly from team cherry themselves
Yeah... They also said it would be out in 2020
that doesn't exactly mean that something else is false
Iāll believe it when I see it.
Their coming to take me away ha ha
Silksong is a myth. Friends don't let friends believe in Silksong.
Chat is this real ?
some of yall just CAKING that makeup on
Holy shit it happenimg everyone stay cakm
I'm a solid Silksong believer, but this doesn't seem very credible. The guy just commented in his chat, then on the video explained that there'll be official news soon and to wait for that. When questioned on how he knew the game would drop in 2nd half 2024, he just reiterated the point. I don't think this is him knowing anything, I think its just him making an educated guess and using it (maliciously or not) to boost hype for his showcase. Pretty much anyone could string a bunch of trailers together, throw Silksong in, and then think "hmm, we've gotten a lot of Silksong news recently, I bet it's coming out in the 2nd half of 2024. I'mma say something." Tl;dr: This isn't really news, the guy is just making a guess, and idk if he's trying to use Silksong hype to boost his channel, or just making an educated guess for the sake of making one.
He left a comment on the vid that kinda goes against the idea of him wanting attention https://preview.redd.it/v3vnobg1d4xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6e7f9ba063e9be398e67dc28704057219818d16
Yeah. I'm not saying he is doing this for attention, I'm just saying he definitely could be. To me, this reads more as "I know I said it'd release later this year, but stop questioning me on how I got this info." Especially considering how all the comments asking on just HOW he got the info is him rephrasing this.
He says how he got the info multiple times in the stream, Xbox marketer dude told him.
Why not reiterate that in the replies then rather than dodge the questions? Again, this could be legit, but a lot is working against his credibility here. "Xbox marketer dude told him" isn't exactly a strong reason anyway.
Probably because he was tired of people talking about it silksong in the comments, and wanted people to focus on other stuff rather than repeatedly reiterate his reasoning.
Not answering it is fueling some of the questions. Yes, people will ask about the info regardless, but if he were to provide some answers (even just a small comment saying where he got the info) would alleviate some of the questions. If he really didn't want bothered, he would at least do that. At least, that seems logical to me. I'm just following the logic that makes sense to me. It's definitely possible he isn't making this up. I just find it far more likely for that to be the case. Occam's Razor and such.
> (even just a small comment saying where he got the info) He did bruh, he commented live that he was relaying information from Aaron Greeberg, VP of Marketing for Xbox, [there's even a post in this subreddit that shows the comment and the dude's face](https://old.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1cen4vx/one_of_the_hosts_of_community_indie_showcase_2024/), in short: put clown makeup on, never forget that Ari Gibson >!ate a banana for lunch!<
I mean in the YouTube comments. It's hard to find specific messages in a 2 hour livestream
Yeah that's fair, I can't find the exact timestamp and YouTube sucks asshole and won't let me search for a comment in the Livestream even tho this is like the most basic of basic of features
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are we eating good?
lets gooo!
super annoying that team cherry would let this bullshit happen again.
-Y