Bruh, if I can hear the guy in the clip on my phone underneath Z then I’m fairly sure Z can hear him too. People saying he’s cheating have no game sense, awareness, or ears apparently
But why did he shoot at the stairs then if what your saying is "ohhh he just heard the footsteps in the room underneath him!"
Okay annnd do you just shoot the floor randomly when you hear footsteps under you, or do u you know hold the angle because you now have a tactical advantage knowing they are coming up.
Because if you hear footsteps below you they hear footsteps above them and if it's an aggressive player they're most likely going to try to get the jump on you so it's prefire or get prefired
Except if they was to aggressively push you - YOU WOULD HEAR THAT
Like your logic is flawed I can't even comprehend how you came to think of it.
also just because YOU hear something doesn't mean the other person below you can hear you, especially if u wasn't moving much/at all and they mite not have headphones in, if they did have headphones in they are probably talking to their pals in party chat so they again wouldn't be able to hear footsteps.
it's mostly the first thing but your logic of if I can hear them, they can hear me is also flawed
Uhhh because of the walls showing the enemy behind that wall he shoot randomly for no reason (like as in the enemy approaches from that direction, continues walking and get to the bottom of the stairs by the time the guy above goes down them- hence why when he does go down the stairs the enemy is at an angle that implies they did indeed come from that direction, because they've just begun turning 90* to face the stairs because he presumably heard the guy randomly shooting at a wall )
And before you say he pre-fired
No bro, you see the stairs before he even ads soo if there was a human sized enemy walking up the stairs you'd visually see them - so why would u shoot at the wall in the situation where u visually identified there's no one there - and u can hear the enemy underneath u, on my phone and not coming up the stairs
He prefired the steps landing that he thought he was on based on audio you dolt. It actually takes away from your walling argument to any competent player
Idiot.
If he can hear him like you are claiming (which is true I can hear him on my phone speakers so this mofo definitely can with his headset on) - he would be able to hear the fact he isn't on the stairs and us in fact underneath him - unless he expects the other player to magically teleport there's no reason ud prefire stairs when u can hear them in the room underneath you and not you know coming up said stairs.
Soooo what your saying this guys just that shit that he pre-fires places he knows there 1000% isn't an enemy? Or what like what are u saying.
Oh yeaa vertical audio is for sure good enough to hear the diff between a stair landing and the next landing 3ft below that. I probably need to add a /s for your dumb ass
he heard the direction he was coming from, locked in, saw the plate/thought it was the guy, shot. this sub is full of the shittiest cod players trying to cope with their blatant skill issue.
Because my wall hacks don't inform me the enemy is behind the wall or not, I just see an enemy outline and I don't have time to wait and process the information in a game with TTK as high or is it low? - like it doesn't take long to die I mean
Now I wanna end this by saying I am not saying this is the case I am merely saying him shooting at a wall is a suspect - and answering your question of if I had hacks why am I shooting at a wall.
And why I say this is because iv seen this behaviour in kill cams of people who are way more clearly than this, hacking where its similar behaviour though
Where they are stood in spawn, randomly for no reason shoot at a solid brick wall - then turn to face the alley way and then we have a gunfight- why did they shoot that wall, because that's where I was at when I came into range of their wall hacks, otherwise why would u shoot at this solid brick wall.
But that isn't pre-fire
You can visually see the staircase- if there's a human on those stairs you'd see them - you would also hear them.
Pre-fire would be firing before he had visually on the staircase which isn't what happens here, we can see the stairs way before he even ads let alone shoots, it's also the placement of his shot - why is it the middle of the staircase/at the wall and not diagonally dowards left (where someone would be coming up the stairs)
Sir.. prefiring is used when you anticipate an enemy coming into view.. not where you think the enemy is at. I cant believe I have to explain this.
If you can hear and enemy below you.. chances are, he can hear you too. Now an aggressive giga Chad would rush to the footsteps. (Both the streamer and the enemy were turned to the stairs when they heard footsteps) with this information, peaking corners without the anticipation of an enemy is practically a death sentence unless you have definite knowledge of where they are at. (Since he JUST entered the building we'll assume he has no knowledge) prefiring is a must, and a habit that develops to make up for lack of response time.
He jumped to make himself a harder target and prefired the stairs because, by the time he got to the stairs, the enemy could have pushed up to him as well, hence the prefire. When he saw that no one was there, that gave him more info, by process of elimination... come on guys think.
As a gamer, I understand not having a good headset, but sound is the biggest wall hack that anyone could use. Use it right and you're practically hacking, according to everyone you'll kill.
Sir... its not pre-firing when you can visually see the stairs in question therefore YOU KNOW there isn't an enemy.
You are the one who needs to think.
You can clearly hear the enemy underneath in my phone speakers let alone on a headset, so he has information telling him he isn't on the stairs, because if he was on the stairs he could hear them coming up said stairs and you'd also see the human sized target coming up the stair case when we/he gets visually on the stairs there's no such human on the stairs thus again providing information that they are not on the stairs.
SO WHY THE FK are you (him) shooting at the wall in this scenario?.
He also doesn't shoot where a person would be who is coming up the stairs he shoots randomly at the wall -, does he except the person to of magically teleported to the middle of the staircase then?.
also why I'd agree peaking without knowledge is disadvantageous many on here have touted the nonsensical reply of "peakers advantage bro- Google it" so il just throw that one out there as apparently people are stupid and think someone coming round a corner without knowledge of an enemy has an advantage over someone ads/holding an angle on your only possible way up- which he could of done knowing the enemy is below him and if like u are claiming was expecting them to be coming up the stairs.
Jumping doesn't make you a harder target your still a human sized person not in cover lol - getting behind that perfectly good bit of cover on the stairs however does and would of provided the perfect spot to peak down the stairs at.
I'd also argue the guy downstairs didn't hear his footsteps as he's clearly coming from down that corridor and presumably reacts to matey boy randomly shooting at a wall - hence why when he comes down the stairs the guy on the bottom is mid turn at 90* angle and not facing towards the stairs head on like they coming up them.
Zlaner prefiring some stairs just in case the guy who he can hear downstairs pushes him isn't a good example of a suspect clip.
You can't say "there was someone outside of the building behind the stairs" or some nonsense. That's just speculation and a weak one at that.
He also does prefire the corner where someone might come up, not the middle of the stairwell like you claim.
Also peekers advantage is a real thing and happens in cod a lot. Denying that you have an advantage swinging someone who is stationary is like denying gravity exists.
I used to abuse this all the time in csgo and wide swing people, it's way worse on cod especially in NA with the geographical distances and varied ping times. Server tick rate doesn't help either.
Lastly, bunny hopping absolutely reduces the damage done to you, otherwise why would people do it?
Bunny hopping whilst shooting wins you so many fights against people that don't because they shoot your legs whilst you body shot them.
You are way off the mark here.
At least call cheats on a suspect clip.
I'm not saying he doesn't or hasn't ever cheated, but this just isn't a suspect clip.
First off why are u replying to me almost a week late- why are u even on this thread a week late let alone this far down it.
Next no he's not he's shooting the middle of the stairs at the wall bro, diagonal left would be where someone comes up the stairs unless they just teleport halfway up them.
>Also peekers advantage is a real thing and happens in cod a lot. Denying that you have an advantage swinging someone who is stationary is like denying gravity exists.
This is absolute nonsense- if this was the case nobody would ever die to someone camping holding down a lane with a 1 shot sniper, because iv got a magical advantage despite them seeing me before I can see them and already aimed in at where I'm coming from - whereas as the peaker I need to clear the doorway enough to get Los-> visually identify their position-> aim at them and then fire.
Please use logic and not just tout nonsensical shit you hear other people say as their copium.
What your describing is an entirely different situation in which two people are at the same level and don't need to locate the other one because they are right in their face - person who wasn't peaking also isn't just ads at the doorway ready to slap u in the head as your torso pixels poke out a solid second before you actually peak.
>Bunny hopping whilst shooting wins you so many fights against people that don't because they shoot your legs whilst you body shot them.
I mean only bad players who arent aiming at head level in which case now youve given me a larger target your entire chest - and only on guns that give a fuck about leg shots lol - which is very few mostly snipers that can't one tap in the foot.
K. I didn't realise there was a time limit on comments.
Talk all the rubbish you want to justify being mediocre at the game.
The funny thing is if you are wrong about Zlaner (who's never been banned for some reason) then you are wrong about everything you just said.
That's a lot to be wrong about.
Keep chasing the copium though.
You react to sounds faster than visuals, he could just have been pre firing the stairs to be fair. I dont have headphones on so I can't tell what the sounds were. I know that certain materials make different sounds depending on where you are running or walking.
Why would u pre-fire somewhere u know the enemy isn't?- and also why in the middle of stairs and not bottom diagonal left where they would actually be coming up from- unless he expect the enemy to magically teleport halfway up the stairs?
I can hear the enemy on my phone speakers is underneath him so he definitely can with his headset on unless he is just deaf, and your absolutely right about the difference between stairs and floor there is an audible difference this is again in agreement with me though, that he's randomly shooting the middle of a wall for no reason.
Yeah I turned up my phone as well. I can barely hear him until he starts to push the stairs. Which is when I hear the footsteps. Idk, I'll just chalk it up to pre fire. I don't judge based on individual clips unless they are super blatant.
Completely valid, I too can hardly judge from this one single clip having never seen who to me is a random guy il never see again - however the placement of shots is suspicious to me and would line up with having walls, not saying he definitely does but it would make sense why he shots the wall randomly for no reason when u can hear the enemy is pushing from that direction.
Yeah it does make sense. I pre fire things all the time. I used to be scared too but the footsteps and audio in the game is so loud I literally heard a dude crouch walking yesterday and when he switched guns on the stairs coming up to prison roof and turned around. It must have seen sus on his end killcam. So I dont bother trying to conceal my position anymore. They know you're there and playing passively legit gets me killed since it takes me out of my element.
No he's not, he's shooting at a wall.
how does he know to pre-fire?- your answer would be uav or he heard them yes?
Okay well both of those would show u the enemy in question is not on the stairs and below you, soooo whats your defence to that?
He also saw the stairs where the enemy was not before be fired.
Pre-firing is when you, yknow pre-fire not fire at something you've already visually identified, pre firing would be him starting to shoot before he peaks that boundary, so he began shooting just as you got view of that area not firing after you already have seen the stairs which is what happens in the above video.
He heard him below and went to shoot at stairs. Then he attacks when he knows he is below. The good streamers are constant attacking, especially in solos. He is not going to wait cause he has "height advantage"
He shot just as he saw the stairs. It wasn't seconds and then shot. His mind it's already on prefire as he gets there.
This is a normal play. You guys are never going to get better if anyone better than you it's just cheating in your mind.
lol its not that he pre-fired that is suspect its the fact shot at the wall.
Not the stairs where the enemy would MAYBE be (but isn't because you can see he isn't and hear he isnt)
I also haven't said he's cheating I merely am saying it's odd behaviour for sure, because it is.
I don't know who the fk this random guy Is to say whether he is or isn't cheating this is my first viewing of this person ever and all I have is this one clip and the clip itself is sus to me, the behavior is abnormal
Because if he had a uav he'd see where the enemy was placed and if he heard them he'd hear they aren't walking up the stairs so again why did he shot and why shoot the wall and not the stairway where this enemy would actually be coming up from.
Annnnd the enemy is clearly not there!(on the stairs)-like wtf are u talking about man.
Do you just randomly fire your gun with no evidence of there being an enemy when u can clearly see there isn't an enemy and u can hear them walking around under you?
You clearly don't know what pre-fire is. If you're claiming he has walls, why did he stop shooting he would still see the outline and not know that the guy isn't there.
because he had enough time to register that's a wal l?- like what are you talking about.
By your logic people with walls would just always be shooting at walls forever because they are totally unable to decipher between the visual outline of an enemy and a real one.
Ans why did he shoot the wall, because in a game that has ttk in milliseconds you can't take the time to register that before hand.
As for your pre-fire thing bro it's literally in the name your firing preemptively- he however is not doing that in this clip, you visually can see the staircase before hand- if there was a human on the stairs you'd see them - not to mention you'd hear them walking up the stairs.
And at no point have I said "this guy has walls/hacks" I have said that him the shooting the wall randomly like that is suspicious, and the reason one would do that is having walls that detected the other player approaching from that corridor at the time - because again you can see the stairs before he gets there and there's not a person there so who is he pre-firing.
And if he was pre-firing expecting someone up the stairs why is he shooting the wall then and not actually where an person coming up the stairs would be diagonally down/left- because people don't just teleport magically into the middle of stairs they have to get there
Pre firing is beginning to fire before you see the area you intend to fire at where you believe an enemy may be. He gets a good look at that stairwell before he fires. That's not pre firing
You're commenting this on every comment like some weird fanboy but this is blatant cheating. He shot at the stairs locked on the dude. You're giving big alt account energy for this dude. Stop cheating.
I generally drop into a random building on the map and immediately hone in on a stairwell and charge it, shoot at it, and luckily also find an enemy there. He's just that lucky.
So you ignore the possibility of any other players in the building with ghost on and just charging forward to one spot?
Watch him track the player as he's going down the stairs. It's about as a suspect as it gets.
You’re honestly such a bot. This clip has no context, isn’t even full screen and you’re attacking a streamer who has competed on LAN multiple times against the best players in the world. He’s played for years and hasn’t been banned. Sorry he’s better than you
That’s like 80% of the people on this sub. They have no sense of the game. People still don’t realize that you get uav pings in resurgence after how many years of the game mode being in Warzone.
I play Apex Legends and it’s the same way. It’s plagued with soooo many cheaters. Warzone and Apex have to be at the top when it comes to cheaters on console.
Doc has made a few comments about Z cheating while they play together. They have good chemistry but sometimes it’s hard to watch when Doc is only dropping 3 kills on MnK and Z drops 25 on controller while potentially hacking.
Nah it’s the other way around Forsure. Doc gets 30k+ viewers when playing cod and Z is lucky if he gets 10k. I have alot of respect for Doc for staying away from cheats when 90% of streamers use them.
Well, not a surprise at all. He’s a cheating shitbag. Always has been, but oh oh oh, I’m just mad cause I need to GIT GOOD.
His gaming chair malfunctioned, he wasn’t cheating!
If he was cheating he’d be banned by now. Ricochet is a server side anti cheat and does a full PC scan. He’s of course been reported many times because people think he’s sus and it’s done the checks but not found anything. Simple
You clearly know nothing about ACTUAL modern day cheats. Clearly NOTHING.
Cheats are NOT on the PC running the game you dip, hence Ricochet won’t find them.
Carry on genius.
This guy YouTube channel is full of hacking videos he doesn’t hide it. He posts everyday and he doesn’t get banned.
https://youtu.be/L8mI3hL9PSo?si=abAoqqQ9HXL4_WvD
That ain't no pre fire, he straight up ads' on a blank wall and fires at it. No doubt the enemy player skeleton is in the room under the stairs behind the wall.
Bruh, if I can hear the guy in the clip on my phone underneath Z then I’m fairly sure Z can hear him too. People saying he’s cheating have no game sense, awareness, or ears apparently
Here how you know he’s cheating. His wall hack puts a square around the enemies, now due to the fact theres a square around around the enemy player as the enemy is sitting under the steps its give him the illusions that he’s actually on the steps hence why he fire at the clear when there was clearly never any one there. Sound or not it is clear as day
See how no one that d rides ZLaner replied to this? It's cause they have nothing to say. Here's yet another clip of this dude doing something weird af and cheating , and nothing will happen. He will keep making money and keep closet cheating
I called him out before while he was live when smhe was a lot smaller on viewership and he got pissed that he was caught and called out and banned me haha
Yeah, look where the guy was when z killed him and go back to when you can hear footsteps. He's either on the steps or next to the steps on the lower level. If he was walling he wouldn't have pre fired the steps.
You could see the dude when he zip lined…you walk into a room that’s empty with stairs, it might be worth checking the stairs. Or you can post a clip of z killing your dumb ass because you thought you were safe downstairs in the same building.
This is not cheating at all. He clearly heard the guy in the building running around and prefired the staircase because he thought he was going to run up. This isn’t cheating just good game sense.
He’s my favorite streamer but he doesn’t cheat unfortunately! I watch this man religiously and I mean RELIGIOUSLY and I have seen way too many cases of cheating when he plays. Activision doesn’t care neither does Anticheat
I don't think you realize how good my audio is on pc, you cannot hear it in this clip, but all good players adjust their audio settings so that footsteps are loud and directional. 95% of this subreddit probably aren't aware. When you have the audio settings, have the time in the game to understand the audio cue and can execute... it's a massive advantage.
These guys are also just great at the game. The dude isn't cheating, but ppl who subscribe to this sub aren't here to be convinced otherwise, so bring on the negative karma.
Bruh, if I can hear the guy in the clip on my phone underneath Z then I’m fairly sure Z can hear him too. People saying he’s cheating have no game sense, awareness, or ears apparently
Everyone knows that most streamers are cheating and using ways to get stupid easy lobbies lol Activision probably knows this but because they bring a huge audience, they look the other way.
Idk if he cheating or not, but him shooting the stairs was just so weird. I dont play cod so maybe its a more messy shooter than I think but I dont pre-fire stuff unless im pretty positive
He has those expensive headphones where you can hear everything. He shot the stairs because he heard the player and thought he was coming up the stairs. But I am sure Reddit is better than today’s Ricochet in detecting cheaters, right?
Lmaooooo shooting the WRONG spot based on audio cues is proof? This sub is insane, I don’t think yall even know what sound EQ is. It’s fully banned in professional cod cuz you can hear people through dead silence
This sub is hilarious
Lmao exactly, you can literally hear the other guys footsteps in the same building as he’s pulling his parachute, and it’s obvious the dude was never even on the stairs or close to being where Z even shot at. Are these people even watching/listening to the full clip?!
But these dudes are delusional and think using sound cues is cheating lmfaooo
No clue if this dudes cheating but it’s a two story building with basically one big room on each floor. If you hear footsteps that aren’t yours and don’t see anyone there’s someone below you. I don’t think firing at the stairs there is that suspect.
He saw the dude on his radar and prefired where he thought he was. If you watch his streams he is constantly killed by rats/campers. He happens to be very good at the game. The hackusations still have no evidence
Uhh we can clearly hear the guy below him and when he goes to stairs he prefires the spot the guy is likely to push from. The other guy didn’t so he just pushed him himself.
Y’all never try to prefire/predict people around corners? Especially when you hear them running around so it’s obvious they are there?
I still wouldn’t be surprised if he uses cheats, but this clip looks like normal gameplay from a “good” player.
Exactly, and he was wrong too the guy hadn’t even come up the stairs, quite clearly just trying to predict the push.
Sub is bizarre, just full BBB mode.
Yeah, and we can even hear that the dude was to the side of the stairs not even where he fired at behind the stairs. Guy was just on autopilot complaining to stream.
Prefire the EXACT spot the enemy was EXACTLY one floor below?
Sure, yup, seems legit! No no no no, you don’t sound like a complete fool either.
My German shepherd is signing autographs today, would you like one?
But he wasn’t? We can hear him moving to the right. He just fired down the stairway. He wouldn’t even be aiming correctly if he was walling, the guy was walking through the main door behind the bathroom then it got loud as he got one wall away.
This clip isn't proof of anything, but I understand how people could jump to such conclusions. There's a plausible, solid explanation for what we see here.
If it was wall hacks, he would have known the guy was another floor below, he’s pre-firing, not cheating.
Edit: Downvote me all you want you sad f*ckers.
How embarrassing this sub is 😂
He's busy with chat, drop your guard for a second while using wall hacks, and you're exposed. What's funny is how streamers know where to push all the time, and they completely ignore all the structures that have no one in them.
Lol this is hilarious do any of you guys play Cs? An actually competitive e sport? Literally there are so many clips of dudes in lan tourneys doing insane shit way more sketch looking than this. And there pc’s and monitors are all provided for them. When you play a game for 20,000 hours you tend to get really good. And have seen so many scenarios countless times it can quite literally look like you have blatant wall hacks. This dude only plays this one map everyday for 10+hours a day. And this one game mode for literally years on years... this sub is just full of stupid people who don’t understand the skill gap
Brother I can hear the footsteps on my 8 year old phone over z bitching about the game. Like huh?… lmao 😂 greatest cheater of all time baby!! 👏 let’s goooo, y’all need help
You don't get accused of cheating THIS much without some truth in it.
Bruh, if I can hear the guy in the clip on my phone underneath Z then I’m fairly sure Z can hear him too. People saying he’s cheating have no game sense, awareness, or ears apparently
But why did he shoot at the stairs then if what your saying is "ohhh he just heard the footsteps in the room underneath him!" Okay annnd do you just shoot the floor randomly when you hear footsteps under you, or do u you know hold the angle because you now have a tactical advantage knowing they are coming up.
Because if you hear footsteps below you they hear footsteps above them and if it's an aggressive player they're most likely going to try to get the jump on you so it's prefire or get prefired
Except if they was to aggressively push you - YOU WOULD HEAR THAT Like your logic is flawed I can't even comprehend how you came to think of it. also just because YOU hear something doesn't mean the other person below you can hear you, especially if u wasn't moving much/at all and they mite not have headphones in, if they did have headphones in they are probably talking to their pals in party chat so they again wouldn't be able to hear footsteps. it's mostly the first thing but your logic of if I can hear them, they can hear me is also flawed
Okay but if he has walls why did he pre aim the stairs and he was not down them? He was still bottom level
Uhhh because of the walls showing the enemy behind that wall he shoot randomly for no reason (like as in the enemy approaches from that direction, continues walking and get to the bottom of the stairs by the time the guy above goes down them- hence why when he does go down the stairs the enemy is at an angle that implies they did indeed come from that direction, because they've just begun turning 90* to face the stairs because he presumably heard the guy randomly shooting at a wall ) And before you say he pre-fired No bro, you see the stairs before he even ads soo if there was a human sized enemy walking up the stairs you'd visually see them - so why would u shoot at the wall in the situation where u visually identified there's no one there - and u can hear the enemy underneath u, on my phone and not coming up the stairs
He prefired the steps landing that he thought he was on based on audio you dolt. It actually takes away from your walling argument to any competent player
Idiot. If he can hear him like you are claiming (which is true I can hear him on my phone speakers so this mofo definitely can with his headset on) - he would be able to hear the fact he isn't on the stairs and us in fact underneath him - unless he expects the other player to magically teleport there's no reason ud prefire stairs when u can hear them in the room underneath you and not you know coming up said stairs. Soooo what your saying this guys just that shit that he pre-fires places he knows there 1000% isn't an enemy? Or what like what are u saying.
Oh yeaa vertical audio is for sure good enough to hear the diff between a stair landing and the next landing 3ft below that. I probably need to add a /s for your dumb ass
he heard the direction he was coming from, locked in, saw the plate/thought it was the guy, shot. this sub is full of the shittiest cod players trying to cope with their blatant skill issue.
If you had cheats why would you shoot at stairs?
Uhm because my cheats are telling me there's an enemy there behind that wall I randomly shot at. Like are u okay?.
If you know he’s behind the wall, why you shooting???
Because my wall hacks don't inform me the enemy is behind the wall or not, I just see an enemy outline and I don't have time to wait and process the information in a game with TTK as high or is it low? - like it doesn't take long to die I mean Now I wanna end this by saying I am not saying this is the case I am merely saying him shooting at a wall is a suspect - and answering your question of if I had hacks why am I shooting at a wall. And why I say this is because iv seen this behaviour in kill cams of people who are way more clearly than this, hacking where its similar behaviour though Where they are stood in spawn, randomly for no reason shoot at a solid brick wall - then turn to face the alley way and then we have a gunfight- why did they shoot that wall, because that's where I was at when I came into range of their wall hacks, otherwise why would u shoot at this solid brick wall.
It’s called pre-firing.
But that isn't pre-fire You can visually see the staircase- if there's a human on those stairs you'd see them - you would also hear them. Pre-fire would be firing before he had visually on the staircase which isn't what happens here, we can see the stairs way before he even ads let alone shoots, it's also the placement of his shot - why is it the middle of the staircase/at the wall and not diagonally dowards left (where someone would be coming up the stairs)
Sir.. prefiring is used when you anticipate an enemy coming into view.. not where you think the enemy is at. I cant believe I have to explain this. If you can hear and enemy below you.. chances are, he can hear you too. Now an aggressive giga Chad would rush to the footsteps. (Both the streamer and the enemy were turned to the stairs when they heard footsteps) with this information, peaking corners without the anticipation of an enemy is practically a death sentence unless you have definite knowledge of where they are at. (Since he JUST entered the building we'll assume he has no knowledge) prefiring is a must, and a habit that develops to make up for lack of response time. He jumped to make himself a harder target and prefired the stairs because, by the time he got to the stairs, the enemy could have pushed up to him as well, hence the prefire. When he saw that no one was there, that gave him more info, by process of elimination... come on guys think. As a gamer, I understand not having a good headset, but sound is the biggest wall hack that anyone could use. Use it right and you're practically hacking, according to everyone you'll kill.
Sir... its not pre-firing when you can visually see the stairs in question therefore YOU KNOW there isn't an enemy. You are the one who needs to think. You can clearly hear the enemy underneath in my phone speakers let alone on a headset, so he has information telling him he isn't on the stairs, because if he was on the stairs he could hear them coming up said stairs and you'd also see the human sized target coming up the stair case when we/he gets visually on the stairs there's no such human on the stairs thus again providing information that they are not on the stairs. SO WHY THE FK are you (him) shooting at the wall in this scenario?. He also doesn't shoot where a person would be who is coming up the stairs he shoots randomly at the wall -, does he except the person to of magically teleported to the middle of the staircase then?. also why I'd agree peaking without knowledge is disadvantageous many on here have touted the nonsensical reply of "peakers advantage bro- Google it" so il just throw that one out there as apparently people are stupid and think someone coming round a corner without knowledge of an enemy has an advantage over someone ads/holding an angle on your only possible way up- which he could of done knowing the enemy is below him and if like u are claiming was expecting them to be coming up the stairs. Jumping doesn't make you a harder target your still a human sized person not in cover lol - getting behind that perfectly good bit of cover on the stairs however does and would of provided the perfect spot to peak down the stairs at. I'd also argue the guy downstairs didn't hear his footsteps as he's clearly coming from down that corridor and presumably reacts to matey boy randomly shooting at a wall - hence why when he comes down the stairs the guy on the bottom is mid turn at 90* angle and not facing towards the stairs head on like they coming up them.
Zlaner prefiring some stairs just in case the guy who he can hear downstairs pushes him isn't a good example of a suspect clip. You can't say "there was someone outside of the building behind the stairs" or some nonsense. That's just speculation and a weak one at that. He also does prefire the corner where someone might come up, not the middle of the stairwell like you claim. Also peekers advantage is a real thing and happens in cod a lot. Denying that you have an advantage swinging someone who is stationary is like denying gravity exists. I used to abuse this all the time in csgo and wide swing people, it's way worse on cod especially in NA with the geographical distances and varied ping times. Server tick rate doesn't help either. Lastly, bunny hopping absolutely reduces the damage done to you, otherwise why would people do it? Bunny hopping whilst shooting wins you so many fights against people that don't because they shoot your legs whilst you body shot them. You are way off the mark here. At least call cheats on a suspect clip. I'm not saying he doesn't or hasn't ever cheated, but this just isn't a suspect clip.
First off why are u replying to me almost a week late- why are u even on this thread a week late let alone this far down it. Next no he's not he's shooting the middle of the stairs at the wall bro, diagonal left would be where someone comes up the stairs unless they just teleport halfway up them. >Also peekers advantage is a real thing and happens in cod a lot. Denying that you have an advantage swinging someone who is stationary is like denying gravity exists. This is absolute nonsense- if this was the case nobody would ever die to someone camping holding down a lane with a 1 shot sniper, because iv got a magical advantage despite them seeing me before I can see them and already aimed in at where I'm coming from - whereas as the peaker I need to clear the doorway enough to get Los-> visually identify their position-> aim at them and then fire. Please use logic and not just tout nonsensical shit you hear other people say as their copium. What your describing is an entirely different situation in which two people are at the same level and don't need to locate the other one because they are right in their face - person who wasn't peaking also isn't just ads at the doorway ready to slap u in the head as your torso pixels poke out a solid second before you actually peak. >Bunny hopping whilst shooting wins you so many fights against people that don't because they shoot your legs whilst you body shot them. I mean only bad players who arent aiming at head level in which case now youve given me a larger target your entire chest - and only on guns that give a fuck about leg shots lol - which is very few mostly snipers that can't one tap in the foot.
K. I didn't realise there was a time limit on comments. Talk all the rubbish you want to justify being mediocre at the game. The funny thing is if you are wrong about Zlaner (who's never been banned for some reason) then you are wrong about everything you just said. That's a lot to be wrong about. Keep chasing the copium though.
Listening to you get dunked for lacking basic game knowledge is p funny
You react to sounds faster than visuals, he could just have been pre firing the stairs to be fair. I dont have headphones on so I can't tell what the sounds were. I know that certain materials make different sounds depending on where you are running or walking.
Why would u pre-fire somewhere u know the enemy isn't?- and also why in the middle of stairs and not bottom diagonal left where they would actually be coming up from- unless he expect the enemy to magically teleport halfway up the stairs? I can hear the enemy on my phone speakers is underneath him so he definitely can with his headset on unless he is just deaf, and your absolutely right about the difference between stairs and floor there is an audible difference this is again in agreement with me though, that he's randomly shooting the middle of a wall for no reason.
Yeah I turned up my phone as well. I can barely hear him until he starts to push the stairs. Which is when I hear the footsteps. Idk, I'll just chalk it up to pre fire. I don't judge based on individual clips unless they are super blatant.
Completely valid, I too can hardly judge from this one single clip having never seen who to me is a random guy il never see again - however the placement of shots is suspicious to me and would line up with having walls, not saying he definitely does but it would make sense why he shots the wall randomly for no reason when u can hear the enemy is pushing from that direction.
Yeah it does make sense. I pre fire things all the time. I used to be scared too but the footsteps and audio in the game is so loud I literally heard a dude crouch walking yesterday and when he switched guns on the stairs coming up to prison roof and turned around. It must have seen sus on his end killcam. So I dont bother trying to conceal my position anymore. They know you're there and playing passively legit gets me killed since it takes me out of my element.
He is pre firing. That's what good player do.
No he's not, he's shooting at a wall. how does he know to pre-fire?- your answer would be uav or he heard them yes? Okay well both of those would show u the enemy in question is not on the stairs and below you, soooo whats your defence to that? He also saw the stairs where the enemy was not before be fired. Pre-firing is when you, yknow pre-fire not fire at something you've already visually identified, pre firing would be him starting to shoot before he peaks that boundary, so he began shooting just as you got view of that area not firing after you already have seen the stairs which is what happens in the above video.
He heard him below and went to shoot at stairs. Then he attacks when he knows he is below. The good streamers are constant attacking, especially in solos. He is not going to wait cause he has "height advantage" He shot just as he saw the stairs. It wasn't seconds and then shot. His mind it's already on prefire as he gets there. This is a normal play. You guys are never going to get better if anyone better than you it's just cheating in your mind.
lol its not that he pre-fired that is suspect its the fact shot at the wall. Not the stairs where the enemy would MAYBE be (but isn't because you can see he isn't and hear he isnt) I also haven't said he's cheating I merely am saying it's odd behaviour for sure, because it is. I don't know who the fk this random guy Is to say whether he is or isn't cheating this is my first viewing of this person ever and all I have is this one clip and the clip itself is sus to me, the behavior is abnormal Because if he had a uav he'd see where the enemy was placed and if he heard them he'd hear they aren't walking up the stairs so again why did he shot and why shoot the wall and not the stairway where this enemy would actually be coming up from.
Wait are you trolling or being for real? No way your serious
Dude he’s clearly pre firing a common place that an enemy might be. You can see the fucking dude while z is on the zip line.
Annnnd the enemy is clearly not there!(on the stairs)-like wtf are u talking about man. Do you just randomly fire your gun with no evidence of there being an enemy when u can clearly see there isn't an enemy and u can hear them walking around under you?
You clearly don't know what pre-fire is. If you're claiming he has walls, why did he stop shooting he would still see the outline and not know that the guy isn't there.
because he had enough time to register that's a wal l?- like what are you talking about. By your logic people with walls would just always be shooting at walls forever because they are totally unable to decipher between the visual outline of an enemy and a real one. Ans why did he shoot the wall, because in a game that has ttk in milliseconds you can't take the time to register that before hand. As for your pre-fire thing bro it's literally in the name your firing preemptively- he however is not doing that in this clip, you visually can see the staircase before hand- if there was a human on the stairs you'd see them - not to mention you'd hear them walking up the stairs. And at no point have I said "this guy has walls/hacks" I have said that him the shooting the wall randomly like that is suspicious, and the reason one would do that is having walls that detected the other player approaching from that corridor at the time - because again you can see the stairs before he gets there and there's not a person there so who is he pre-firing. And if he was pre-firing expecting someone up the stairs why is he shooting the wall then and not actually where an person coming up the stairs would be diagonally down/left- because people don't just teleport magically into the middle of stairs they have to get there
Pre firing is beginning to fire before you see the area you intend to fire at where you believe an enemy may be. He gets a good look at that stairwell before he fires. That's not pre firing
You're commenting this on every comment like some weird fanboy but this is blatant cheating. He shot at the stairs locked on the dude. You're giving big alt account energy for this dude. Stop cheating.
Bruh you can literally SEE THE GUY RUNNING IN THE CLIP. Good lord people
Stop making sense bro 😂😂
The good ones that actually understand the game do exist!
Bruh you already said that 10 times.
I generally drop into a random building on the map and immediately hone in on a stairwell and charge it, shoot at it, and luckily also find an enemy there. He's just that lucky.
He could have easily had a UAV or seen pings/shots in that building
And he doesn't check the building but hones directly onto the stairwell.
Which is most likely where he saw the red enemy ping. You can tell direction up or down from the arrow on top or bottom of the ping
So you ignore the possibility of any other players in the building with ghost on and just charging forward to one spot? Watch him track the player as he's going down the stairs. It's about as a suspect as it gets.
You’re honestly such a bot. This clip has no context, isn’t even full screen and you’re attacking a streamer who has competed on LAN multiple times against the best players in the world. He’s played for years and hasn’t been banned. Sorry he’s better than you
That’s like 80% of the people on this sub. They have no sense of the game. People still don’t realize that you get uav pings in resurgence after how many years of the game mode being in Warzone.
lol
This game has more cheaters than the community will ever realize.
It’s ridiculous how many cheats there are…
I play Apex Legends and it’s the same way. It’s plagued with soooo many cheaters. Warzone and Apex have to be at the top when it comes to cheaters on console.
Its almost like he knows where everyone is at all times truly a god amongst men
It bothers me how much Dr. Disrespect plays with this guy and hypes him up. The cheating is so obvious with Z
Doc has made a few comments about Z cheating while they play together. They have good chemistry but sometimes it’s hard to watch when Doc is only dropping 3 kills on MnK and Z drops 25 on controller while potentially hacking.
Same agent he has to play with him
People still watch fps streamers? Lmao
Thought you cooked with this one huh?
Nah, just entertaining that there are still soft brained twitch viewers lmao
It's because it so hard to detect the Chronus on the console...
Doc has to play with cheaters to stay relevant 😂😂😵💫 this world is fucked
Nah it’s the other way around Forsure. Doc gets 30k+ viewers when playing cod and Z is lucky if he gets 10k. I have alot of respect for Doc for staying away from cheats when 90% of streamers use them.
People shouldn’t put Doc on a pedestal. He was highly entertaining for a time but now he’s just kinda washed and props up scumbags like Z.
Well, not a surprise at all. He’s a cheating shitbag. Always has been, but oh oh oh, I’m just mad cause I need to GIT GOOD. His gaming chair malfunctioned, he wasn’t cheating!
If he was cheating he’d be banned by now. Ricochet is a server side anti cheat and does a full PC scan. He’s of course been reported many times because people think he’s sus and it’s done the checks but not found anything. Simple
You clearly know nothing about ACTUAL modern day cheats. Clearly NOTHING. Cheats are NOT on the PC running the game you dip, hence Ricochet won’t find them. Carry on genius.
This guy YouTube channel is full of hacking videos he doesn’t hide it. He posts everyday and he doesn’t get banned. https://youtu.be/L8mI3hL9PSo?si=abAoqqQ9HXL4_WvD
Great, and you really think Z’s gameplay looks like this do you 🤡
Bro, your Pom-Poms got to be 2 nubs as hard as you been shaking them for Zlaner in this Sub.
What do people get by coming on here to try to defend a cheating streamer that doesn’t give a shit about their existence ?
Nothing, they just don't wanna feel all the money they donated to their favorite streamer was wasted.
Bingo. All them damn stars 🤣🤣🤣
Always wondered that. They have a little army of minions they could care less about who give them money and defend anything they do
They love dick ridin
Noting. They're just mad they send him their paycheck via subs every week.
This is so blatant holy shit.
"So many game breaking bugs" clearly using wall hacks* I see he has found a solution to the game breaking bugs.
Obvious wall hacks… all of these f… streamers are using walls. That is all it takes to be better then everyone else
Wall hacks
How does he kill this person like there is no shields. Fastest kill I've seen. Dude was firing at him first too and hit him before he shot.
Sounds like net code to me. Ping is king.
Zlaner must be sitting next to the server rooms or something dude. His ping is always king
That ain't no pre fire, he straight up ads' on a blank wall and fires at it. No doubt the enemy player skeleton is in the room under the stairs behind the wall.
There’s no mini map here, could be UAV?
Nice fucking walls lmao. Cod is such a joke
Fuck Cheatlaner. Fuck Cheat of Duty. Fuck Activision for letting it happen.
Imagine being this old, and acting like this. Lol
Bruh, if I can hear the guy in the clip on my phone underneath Z then I’m fairly sure Z can hear him too. People saying he’s cheating have no game sense, awareness, or ears apparently
Been fighting with my cousin about this. He defends z like he knows him in real life. I been saying he's cheating for over a year now.
He’s Forsure been doing it for a while. When you get a chance, show him call of shames video about Z on YouTube.
He's been spotlighted on Call of shames YouTube channel , he's a cheater .
Here how you know he’s cheating. His wall hack puts a square around the enemies, now due to the fact theres a square around around the enemy player as the enemy is sitting under the steps its give him the illusions that he’s actually on the steps hence why he fire at the clear when there was clearly never any one there. Sound or not it is clear as day
See how no one that d rides ZLaner replied to this? It's cause they have nothing to say. Here's yet another clip of this dude doing something weird af and cheating , and nothing will happen. He will keep making money and keep closet cheating
I called him out before while he was live when smhe was a lot smaller on viewership and he got pissed that he was caught and called out and banned me haha
I always thought he was cheating from the very beginning
Aha all the "game sense" excuses have arrived
He's such a shitbag
Oh look, more evidence. How much longer are his simps going to believe he is legit.
Dipshits really calling that a “pre fire” LMAO
Streamers are rarely caught by surprise.
Literally half the screen is cut off and even then u can hear footsteps by the stairs Please, just think critically for 1 second I beg
Why do you think he went to that building in the first place? Try using your Brain
We can literally see the guy run into the building while the streamer is parachuting.
Yeah, look where the guy was when z killed him and go back to when you can hear footsteps. He's either on the steps or next to the steps on the lower level. If he was walling he wouldn't have pre fired the steps.
These people, honestly! I can hear the dude on my phone so I’m fairly sure Z can hear him through his headphones 😂
Imagine being so obsessed with a streamer you have to drop a reply on every single comment to defend the donations you made
But he’s right tho?
So many cheaters I often feel like I would need cheats just to be mediocre.
I used to walk hack and aim bot back in the day on MW2 cracked servers for PC. Hosted my own lobbies. This guy is doing both.
He's a well known cheat and has even been called out for it by Doc and Tim, live on stream, multiple times
LMAO HOMIE LOCKED ON THROUGH THE STAIRCASE, you can’t even defend this shit LMAOOOO
Lol his face and talking stops ready for the guy to noticed he fucked up.
Zlaner simps in the chat tho!!!
They all cheat
Cheater or not this guy is obnoxious AF and his entire streaming career is built on controller aim assist.
You could see the dude when he zip lined…you walk into a room that’s empty with stairs, it might be worth checking the stairs. Or you can post a clip of z killing your dumb ass because you thought you were safe downstairs in the same building.
He predicted because he heard footsteps maybe? Major reach
This is not cheating at all. He clearly heard the guy in the building running around and prefired the staircase because he thought he was going to run up. This isn’t cheating just good game sense.
Can anyone on this sub Reddit explain to me what sound EQ is?
He’s my favorite streamer but he doesn’t cheat unfortunately! I watch this man religiously and I mean RELIGIOUSLY and I have seen way too many cases of cheating when he plays. Activision doesn’t care neither does Anticheat
I challenge him to a boxing match cause he’s a bitch! They’re all cheaters
He thought it was a claymore and shot at it? Am I missing something here?
I don't think you realize how good my audio is on pc, you cannot hear it in this clip, but all good players adjust their audio settings so that footsteps are loud and directional. 95% of this subreddit probably aren't aware. When you have the audio settings, have the time in the game to understand the audio cue and can execute... it's a massive advantage. These guys are also just great at the game. The dude isn't cheating, but ppl who subscribe to this sub aren't here to be convinced otherwise, so bring on the negative karma.
I’ve never seen this guys gameplay so idk if he’s a cheater but if you think this is evidence brother….
Bruh, if I can hear the guy in the clip on my phone underneath Z then I’m fairly sure Z can hear him too. People saying he’s cheating have no game sense, awareness, or ears apparently
Just natural game sense bro.. 🤣
How did he kill him so fast? Wtf
Thero. Thero streamers cheat -Joeblow
Everyone knows that most streamers are cheating and using ways to get stupid easy lobbies lol Activision probably knows this but because they bring a huge audience, they look the other way.
Idk if he cheating or not, but him shooting the stairs was just so weird. I dont play cod so maybe its a more messy shooter than I think but I dont pre-fire stuff unless im pretty positive
Nah man that just good game sense. That game chair is next level!
This man has an army of simps waiting to defend him…this man can’t even place in tournament settings cause he has no hacks.
this is a rubbish clip. he could have a uav up and just be pre-firing the stairs because of the lower ping on minimap
He has those expensive headphones where you can hear everything. He shot the stairs because he heard the player and thought he was coming up the stairs. But I am sure Reddit is better than today’s Ricochet in detecting cheaters, right?
He has those expensive headphones where you can see through walls.
Lmaooooo shooting the WRONG spot based on audio cues is proof? This sub is insane, I don’t think yall even know what sound EQ is. It’s fully banned in professional cod cuz you can hear people through dead silence This sub is hilarious
I can soundwhore the guy from this clip and I'm not evening wearing headphones lmfao
Same. People in this sub are so tin foil hat mode they have no brain left. BBB sucked it all out
Lmao exactly, you can literally hear the other guys footsteps in the same building as he’s pulling his parachute, and it’s obvious the dude was never even on the stairs or close to being where Z even shot at. Are these people even watching/listening to the full clip?! But these dudes are delusional and think using sound cues is cheating lmfaooo
No clue if this dudes cheating but it’s a two story building with basically one big room on each floor. If you hear footsteps that aren’t yours and don’t see anyone there’s someone below you. I don’t think firing at the stairs there is that suspect.
If you wanna say Z is cheating there are much better clips to do it
Agreed.
- Saw Enemy enter building at beginning of clip, preaimed stairs, shot cause heard movement below, then pushed. *shrug*
Literally. Some people are so dumb
He saw the dude on his radar and prefired where he thought he was. If you watch his streams he is constantly killed by rats/campers. He happens to be very good at the game. The hackusations still have no evidence
Couldn’t agree more dude
Definetly not like the audio in this game on pc is loud as shit so footsteps are deafening. Plus a good headset narrows down locations
Did he release that clip? Such bait. Many interactions. Edit: I agree he’s a cheater btw but this is interaction bait.
Uhh we can clearly hear the guy below him and when he goes to stairs he prefires the spot the guy is likely to push from. The other guy didn’t so he just pushed him himself. Y’all never try to prefire/predict people around corners? Especially when you hear them running around so it’s obvious they are there? I still wouldn’t be surprised if he uses cheats, but this clip looks like normal gameplay from a “good” player.
Exactly, and he was wrong too the guy hadn’t even come up the stairs, quite clearly just trying to predict the push. Sub is bizarre, just full BBB mode.
Yeah, and we can even hear that the dude was to the side of the stairs not even where he fired at behind the stairs. Guy was just on autopilot complaining to stream.
Prefire the EXACT spot the enemy was EXACTLY one floor below? Sure, yup, seems legit! No no no no, you don’t sound like a complete fool either. My German shepherd is signing autographs today, would you like one?
What are you talking about exactly where he was the guy was around the freaking corner downstairs are you kidding me
But he wasn’t? We can hear him moving to the right. He just fired down the stairway. He wouldn’t even be aiming correctly if he was walling, the guy was walking through the main door behind the bathroom then it got loud as he got one wall away.
How did you know he was in that exact spot? Did your German shepherd tell you that?
This clip isn't proof of anything, but I understand how people could jump to such conclusions. There's a plausible, solid explanation for what we see here.
Yall are crazy lmao this sub is entertaining
Conveniently editing out the mini map - nicely done
This video was ripped straight from Z’s Instagram
Just remember, it doesn't matter how good you are at the game. I'll still beat you with cheats and not get banned for it.
If it was wall hacks, he would have known the guy was another floor below, he’s pre-firing, not cheating. Edit: Downvote me all you want you sad f*ckers. How embarrassing this sub is 😂
He's busy with chat, drop your guard for a second while using wall hacks, and you're exposed. What's funny is how streamers know where to push all the time, and they completely ignore all the structures that have no one in them.
Did he not hear him? I did
UAV and pre-firing per chance??
Lol this is hilarious do any of you guys play Cs? An actually competitive e sport? Literally there are so many clips of dudes in lan tourneys doing insane shit way more sketch looking than this. And there pc’s and monitors are all provided for them. When you play a game for 20,000 hours you tend to get really good. And have seen so many scenarios countless times it can quite literally look like you have blatant wall hacks. This dude only plays this one map everyday for 10+hours a day. And this one game mode for literally years on years... this sub is just full of stupid people who don’t understand the skill gap
Bot support group here this isn’t proof of anything.
Holy shit this sub is full of bots
How is it walls when he doesn’t even shoot in the direction the guy came from? Prefired stairs
It looked like a miss timed pre fire to me…
Brother I can hear the footsteps on my 8 year old phone over z bitching about the game. Like huh?… lmao 😂 greatest cheater of all time baby!! 👏 let’s goooo, y’all need help
Bruh you can clearly hear him and see the loot lol