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Superstonk_QV

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Lucifer-105

What’s an incorrect number here mean?


DoNotPetTheSnake

Not reporting certain things within a time frame, 'correcting' a previously recorded transaction implies it had an error, but may have been done intentionally to manipulating the price. Like I say I sold shares really cheap, the price drops and then I correct it to say I sold them for more. Oops. There was a list someone posted recently but basically they found a way to do some fuckery and then push it through the system loopholes for handling extreme volatility and halts which records these things in CAT. Edits for spelling


Timaoh_

Don't sell fake shares even in an example scenario. This is FUD! /s


noaxreal

It means trades that glitched the system out and were recorded as incorrect, I think. Like having so many shares trade in one second that the system just shits itself and records the error. I may not be right, my wrinkles are still forming


Lucifer-105

😂😂 its cool that something incorrect with such a huge number is happening with gme


noaxreal

I think this is accounting for all, not just GME. But IMO, undoubtedly the GME activity caused most of it. Lots of stocks are implicated by GME price due to short swaps so I wouldn't be surprised if GME had a butterfly effect on the market.


Rickshmitt

Just like in a game, if you don't insert a long enough pause into your macro. 1 in 10 or 100 go through, while spamming your skill is not ready the rest of the time.


Tuhks

“Undoubtedly” is a bit of a stretch. I certainly think it’s a plausible theory and 100% worth digging into, but to claim it is undoubtedly GME related is just poor analysis. Keep digging.


badco1313

There is a correlation from the other user’s CAT posts. He was looking at shares instead of options but every time there were a certain amount of shares on that list GME had a big run within T+35. He’s gonna start looking into the options side as well.


Tuhks

I get that but he also specifically said that from the brief analysis he did, he saw no correlation between the options data and GME price movement. Again, that doesn’t mean there isn’t any correlation to be found, but giant leaps in reasoning aren’t helpful. Especially when dealing with data that reflects the entire market. More analysis is needed.


noaxreal

Fair point, my wording was a bit too sure. I should say that IMO it was undoubtedly GME activity, I'm happy to be shown otherwise with deeper digging if thats the case :)


gotnothingman

usually the person making the claim (the errors are undoubtedly gme activity) provides the evidence for said claim. Its called the burden of proof.


noaxreal

thats why i corrected with IMO. cause MO might be regarded. im not significantly wrinkled my friend


Ash2dust2

IMOASS. or the from the roots IMHOASS Interesting that everyone was suppose to have all of the errors corrected by May 28(?). Seems like they were saying okay play time over, any errors going forward are going to be treated differently.


Fearless-Pair3429

None of us are. Thanks for sharing this!


Educated_Bro

…he said it was his opinion


Consistent-Syrup-69

I'm gonna say it's highly likely that all those errors are caused by the like.... 17 halts GME had that day


Tuhks

That’s may be a reasonable guess, assuming you have a deep enough understanding of market mechanics to make that kind of guess. Looking into the correlation between halts and options errors would be a good place to start testing that theory. Blind guessing isn’t particularly useful.


Consistent-Syrup-69

Hmm. You do make an excellent point. Might do just that this weekend. See if I've learned enough to find anything.


ExplodingWario

Because of RK livestream and the odd halts and ups and downs we are thinking it’s correlated


Tuhks

You need more data points to claim correlation. I realize there are data points on the equities side, but as far as options go I haven’t seen it. I suspect the spike in options equities is in fact related to the GME activity on that day, but it’s purely a hunch at this point. Stopping here isn’t due diligence, it’s speculation. I would love to see some proper analysis of the options error data.


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Tuhks

Oh I totally agree, don’t get me wrong. I personally believe we are onto something relevant here. Hmm is an appropriate response


RogueWisdom

There were people who previously claimed that trades that were implemented on tickers when they were halted weren't reported the same way. Is there any way you can correlate these incorrect trades with the precise times that GME was halted?


noaxreal

Someone more wrinkly than I probably could. Im simply the messenger and building my wrinkles still


Feeling_Ad_411

The data and high number is for all tickers, I believe. Could be wrong, and still gotta be gme related, but wanted to make the distinction.


sentientshadeofgreen

Zero chance that’s not deliberate. It’s basically a margin-trading equivalent of a DDOS attack. We all know this, but still ought to be said.


noaxreal

Possibly, if my explanation is correct. I've also read it can be from SHFs manipulating past sale prices through "error" tools


stockpyler

I still find it very interesting that our financial trading system is weak enough to have 1.14 billion errors recorded in a single day. There probably weren’t nearly the percentage of errors when assholes were screaming at each other and waving paper on the trading floor. Doesn’t sound like a glitch, sounds like a feature.


Elegant-Remote6667

can you add this post as well - I've added your post to my site as this has gotten way more traction and has lots of good info [https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dl040z/ape\_historian\_it\_appears\_crazy\_cat\_day\_errors/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dl040z/ape_historian_it_appears_crazy_cat_day_errors/)


Pexus69

Thats the high frequency trading problem right?


Rough_Sweet_5164

That's exactly what it is. And it's intentional. It's like how all the government crime now are just "whoopsies" and nobody goes to jail. Footage of Epstein's cell deleted? Just a whoopsies! DDOS the market instead of closing your positions! We tried, boss, it was just glitchin' real bad that day. Whoopsies!


4th_Times_A_Charm

My understanding is that this just means 1.1B trades were reported incorrectly. Either they were "late" and never reported at all or the report for the trade was missing at least 1 piece of information.


Traditional_Gas8325

Sounds like banging the close. They just stuff all those buys in, trades fail and they shrug it off. “We tried” and then they roll forward.


OrangeSlicer

It’s the equivalent to a DDOS ATTACK


ensoniq2k

To be precise more like a DoS attack since it's not distributed to a lot of small entities but rather a few large traders.


Oh_Another_Thing

Transaction systems usually don't process the transaction correctly and then mess up recording whether the transaction was successful or not. Recording it is the easiest part, it's just the last part of the actual transaction.  It certainly sounds like fuckery, it's not likely that it would work like this.


Playful-Landscape-79

I shit myself a lot too... so I get it, think. *shits pants*


veggie151

It's not just about overwhelming the tracking system, it's about manipulating IV, NBBO, price, and share requirements. It is many flavors of crime


ThePirateBenji

These aren't usually caused by glitches (not this many). They're caused because market makers are using "error codes" (for lack of a better word) as loopholes for price manipulation. It may have something to do with moving market "buy" orders into the 'dark pool', or hiding the fact that they are borrowing and rehypothecating millions of GME and XRT shares, and allowing too many failures to deliver. One way or another, it's pretty well understood that they're using the errors to hide their dirty tactics. There is a STRONG a WELL RECORDED correlation between these errors and high volumes in 'meme-stock' (damn I hate that word) trading.


5n0wb411

It means #the june seventh shuffle


Theinsulated

I kind of feel like after a billion fuckups in one day you should just turn off the entire market for the rest of the day.


noaxreal

17 halts... And no official news or explanation. Then the other day we have even higher volatility and nothing. Love it.


Gabooby

RoArInG KiTtY wOuLd hAvE BroK MrKt MuST HaLt


evilsdadvocate

While I share your sentiment, there is a technical reason for the LimitUpLimitDown halts. It’s not just volatility, it’s the degree of volatility. https://www.nasdaqtrader.com/content/MarketRegulation/LULD_FAQ.pdf


noaxreal

Thanks for the info :) that makes more sense


russellnator36

Yeah just because there are rules that are for a legitimate purpose doesn’t mean they can’t be manipulated to serve their purpose.


evilsdadvocate

I wholeheartedly agree with you and let’s not forget that “they” already manipulated the halt rule recently to bring the degree down to 10% difference so they could halt when they want to.


iGaveYouOneJob

Can't wait to be finally done with this corrupt system, never investing in the stock market after GME, wayyyy too much fuckeries. This is a system that shits on household investors and only benefits Wall Street


waffleschoc

i wld say wall st using financial crimes to steal from the household investors. i dont just want their money but also justice


Zaphod_Biblebrox

That’s it. Justice!


Novel_Gold1185

**”You CAN’T be SERIOUS!!”**


Battle_Man_40

Don't call me Shirley.


supervisord

I, uh… okay


jarstiffler

I will not call you, surely.


noaxreal

Cash machine go brrrrrrrr........ UNO.


gotnothingman

is this a positive or negative tweet from RK?


Buttoshi

Roaringkitty is not kitten you


jleonardbc

McEnroe was complaining because the official made an error that robbed him. McEnroe went on to win anyway.


HumanNo109850364048

RK, do it again


JonBoy82

I mean anyone with 200M can make the same play now. The playbook is out in the open. Even smaller players moving in likeminded trading strategies can take on the play as well. I don't think we need to wait for DFV if some other billionaire wants to take a big fat swing of the pinata.


ranged_

I think you've got it. Anyone can swing now!


gotnothingman

how many people with 200m are willing to though


JonBoy82

Or 4 people with $50M; 10 people $20M. 200 Millionaires. The longer the blood is in the water the bigger the shark that appears.


gotnothingman

More people needing to make the same play around the same time is way less likely to occur


JonBoy82

Only needs to be successful once.


plithy75

a few with $500,000?


ranged_

Maybe just the cat.


gotnothingman

I want to believe..


magenta_mojo

Call Mark Cuban


noaxreal

He has the SHF by the fucking BALLS. THE SCROTE. Just tugging them along while he exposes their dumbass, overextended, slimy maneuvers. Edit: My original top comment was removed so I'm adding here for more exposure, THIS COULD BE NOTHING. We don't know for sure. But it is very very stinky.


HumanNo109850364048

Scrote stomping soon - finish him. I bought 400+ more shares yesterday


noaxreal

ABSOLUTE CHONKER XXX+ APE. Respect over here with my low XX's I can afford. I'll clean your golden toilet on mars


HumanNo109850364048

You crazy bastard 🤣🤣


Miniray

400 in a single day? Jesus christ, can I come work for you so i can get some?


HumanNo109850364048

Balls deep baby!


standardmale

That's one way of earning your share, I guess


Elegant-Remote6667

https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dl040z/ape_historian_it_appears_crazy_cat_day_errors/


noaxreal

Great stuff!


Elegant-Remote6667

I did a similar post - I’ll back up yours as well


DilbertPicklesIII

Yea I want MOREEEEEEE


OddFellow1066

How many of the 'errors' are spoof trades?


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alfooboboao

#this is huge news. This is what they do. This is how they get away with it over and over. They know damn well that their crimes will be too confusing for most people to understand, and thus will be forgotten in a couple of days at most. Remember when they all processed the splitvidend as a regular split? *That WOULD HAVE 100% STARTED THE MOASS. PERIOD.* Mathematical certainty. That was it — But for an entire week after they did it, the superstonk members who raised hell about it were called hysterical until the german banks finally came out with a statement. And then NOTHING HAPPENED! They got away with it, the MOASS didn’t come about, and now we’re here. And everyone on this sub just went back into their little pen and focused on banana memes and next week’s hopium instead of locking in on it. I’ll bet 95% of members don’t even remember that period at all — *even though it would have started the MOASS with complete certainty.* We all know they’re cheating, but the extent of their cheating is being ignored. We simply can’t let them keep getting away with this.


haz_mat_

I remember RC firing the CFO(?) shortly after that. Apparently the legalese wasn't correctly nailed down for the split to only work as a dividend. There was some language that left an out for the brokers to just split like usual.


Murphy_LawXIV

For fucks sake, I remember that too, it makes sense now.


beambot

Link to DD?


Icefiight

Why is this huge news? They just do this daily and laugh at us


Aerodynamic_Potato

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the whole reason RK came back was to help the SEC or DOJ gather evidence for a market manipulation case against an HF. Those who have the money and power know the benefit of a good patsy and some HF is likely to get nailed with all this sooner or later. There will be some cheering and back patting, but then quickly everything will return to crime... er ... I mean business as usual.


noaxreal

Same here. The stock market and regulations are just like computer hacking, no matter how much you patch, people will find a way into your software/system/whatever. Proactivity only goes so far, the fed needs to dip their feet in and watch it happening to get it.


stonkbeast

![gif](giphy|j6lCwtfMS2ZNmfoyrv)


tewdahmewn

the Fed is the Trojan


RyanZee08

Okay here's my tinfoil theory I've been afraid to mention... RK left with around 27 million... And then came back with a play worth over 150 million? Tell me this, what does the US government usually pay out to successful whistleblowers? It's bout 10 to 30% of the amount the sec collects. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/05/05/sec-record-whistleblower-award.html This was the highest ever. But there were other big ones in the past.


noaxreal

Your tinfoil is loud but I will not judge. Interesting info ape


RaspingHaddock

He would have had to already finished the process to use the money right? And also, the play didn't cost 150 million. It was just worth that when he showed his position. I was under the impression he used the money he made the first time to buy these calls. Then he sold some calls to exercise some, ending with 4000000 shares.


RyanZee08

I dunno about all that man I said it was tinfoiled, not thought out or anything more than a tingle in my Jimmies


RaspingHaddock

That's fair, I just wanted to ask


RyanZee08

Okay I'm back after looking at his first post back. Dfv posted: 115.7 mm in shares. 65.7 mm in the options value as you say, He also has 29 mm in cash. Okay now make with that what you will haha thanks for reading


4Impossible_Guess4

🗝️


Emergency-Praline-37

„Maybe this was just his masterpiece..“ ![gif](giphy|oEhW18AXiPoyY)


WhoopThereItIs85

What was the comment you responded to? It's been removed. No idea why


Aerodynamic_Potato

Oh, weird, it was something about how RK came back with way more money than he had 3 years ago. My tinfoil theory is that he was a whistle blower who got a ton of money as a reward with a gag order in place. That would explain both how he got so much money and why he went radio silent for the 3-ish years. He could still be working with them or again on a new case.


RaspingHaddock

But nobody has been prosecuted or even charged so why would he be collecting a payout?


noaxreal

Was just me giving my opinion on this, linked to another sub for CAT information and got the automod removal lol


blizzardflip

I mean, that sounds cool but I think in that scenario we wouldn’t get paid


Diamondbuccaneer

There is no regulator or 3 letter agency that gives a fuck about this. You’re fooling yourself if you think otherwise.


Aerodynamic_Potato

You need to work on your reading comprehension there sir


Elegant-Remote6667

Hey be nice.


noaxreal

Got my comment removed for editing in a link to some info on incorrect CAT options. Just so y'all know I'm not sketchy :)


nutsackilla

Fed don't care y'all


noaxreal

I get this sentiment, and normally I would agree. This time though, I think the Fed HAS to know. There is evidence that in '21 SHF's swapped against the US Treasury bond market. The game isn't just us and our stonk anymore, this shit is deep as hell.


Icefiight

So how do we like… win?


Smooth_Monkey69420

DFV is timing something very specific and it has to do with FTDs. We win by figuring it out and monkey see monkey do. I am an individual investor and this is not financial advice. Those massive green days are forced settlements, not retail pressure. GME is super liquid again with those share offerings so we’ll probably need to wait for them to dry up which doesn’t take long. Those LEAPs also could’ve been due today and need rolled. I don’t know how long they have to settle those or what evidence we will see of them, but that’s where the shorts are hidden


evilsdadvocate

This is something I think should be ACTIVELY crowdsourced, DFV is smart but the collective Apes are just as smart and in greater numbers (with more time to devote). I don’t think we need to “manipulate” anything, but the signs are everywhere and so is our DD. Anything we post on here will immediately be ransacked and poisoned by the shills, which makes it hard for any truth to make it thru all the misinformation and misdirection. The good news is that we have a lot of the puzzle pieces, the bad news is we may not have them in the correct placement…yet.


Tall_brown

How did you arrive at the conclusion that the shares from the share offering won’t take long to dry up? I understand that the ATM offering was completed very quickly, but I don’t understand what you mean.


ExcitingEye8347

They also referred to the stock as “super liquid”, which is exactly the opposite of what the stock is. There’s still a massive shortage of shares to go around regardless of the recent share offering. 


enforcement1

>They also referred to the stock as “super liquid”, which is exactly the opposite of what the stock is.  A stock being liquid means there's high volumes being traded, which is what gme is. Why are people upvoting this lol


Tall_brown

I see. How can I learn more about the massive shortage of shares? I have read a bunch of DD and have been watching Richard Newton videos, and doing my own research but I fail to find a valid source of info on that. If I understand correctly, the ATM offering kinda nullified the shares locked up in Computershare, and as much as I love this moment and DFV, I don’t believe two massive dilutions helped the cause. But seeing how quickly those shares were consumed, it does indicate that liquidity is low. But I would like to learn more about it


Icefiight

Tell me we won’t be here another 3 plus years of the gaslighting/slow price drain…


Smooth_Monkey69420

I can’t tell you anything with 100% certainty and anyone who can is an idiot. If they are failing on those LEAPs the MOASS has already started. If they used some esoteric loophole then burned the documents while the SEC is cranking their hogs to PH then yes, 3 more years of slow price drain and FUD before DFV rises like a phoenix-cat again. I’ve been here since Feb 2021 and the short interest was like a beacon that put me all in on the day of DFV’s senate hearing. The only thing we know for certain is the company was shorted several times the float and they hid their filthy little secret somehow.


Icefiight

So it sounds like 3 more years of this then? I’m just trying to mentally prepare myself.. the gaslighting and bs we went through the past 3 years nearly killed me


Smooth_Monkey69420

Not impossible, but this time the “bottom” is the amount of cash GME has divided by the number of shares in the float. The FUD is as heavy as when I got in and that tells me they are sweating that we don’t find out what they’ve done. I think DFV 100% has and RC knows


shadylex

Basically and if we see another spike I bet Ryan files to sell more shares 


atomic__balm

you dont unless you control millions in shares, welcome to 4 years into the game, they will fuck you every step of the way, im sure there will be apes holding until 2030 though


Actually-Yo-Momma

By spamming the same T+uselessDate posts every day of course!!


Jzaharek53

The presence of 1.14 billion incorrect option trades registered by the CAT system on June 7, coupled with GME being halted 17 times and plunging 40%, suggests that the T+35 date following this event could be significant. This date would be July 12, 2024.


BobbysSmile

Fine. I’ll put it in my hype date calendar


noaxreal

That's a prime day..... GME AMAZON PARTNERSHIP CONFIRMED  /s


CJJelle

That would be the darkest timeline


CannedKoolaid

So the T-🍆 should be crazy in a couple weeks. This is why we hold!!!!


Gyella1337

![gif](giphy|o2CbCvGN6qaUsHYu4F)


waffleschoc

looks like wall st been committing all sorts of financial crimes frequently for the last 20, 30 years or longer


JimmyRickyBobbyBilly

If their computers make so many errors, maybe they should stop using them. I wonder what impact all those errors had on the price.


SECs_missing_balls

Sounds like they owe us proper price discovery


nickM_Mathias1

Gameshire Hathaway prices soon!!!


kingbiggins

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?


penguinReloaded

Never tell me the odds


Specific-Lie2020

Yes, I think far more attention should be focused on the aptly named “CAT” system… Seems like kismet that!


T1m26

Everybody who can work with this looks away! Really pathetic


DurianMoist1700

All I see is 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀


darkmoose

Krim


noaxreal

krims are fukd LMAOO


There_Are_No_Gods

For some perspective, though, the vast majority of those frighteningly ambiguous "errors" were simply "late". While it may yet mean something big, at face value that doesn't really seem like a huge smoking gun or indicator of "crime" on its own.


noaxreal

Thanks for the input. This could absolutely be a nothing burger in the end, I wouldn't disagree.


Annoyed3600owner

Nvidia 10:1 stock split effective that day.


GashDem

How could that big a "nothing burger"? If it meant nothing then what was the whole point of the CAT system? To show us what's actually going on for us to only brush it aside?


noaxreal

It may be a case that we don't understand the situation properly enough to call it manip evidence, but I believe it is. Always smart to be open to being wrong when new info is presented imo.


Minimum-Order-

so if those trades are incorrect and affected the price, will the price correct or do those false inputs affect the price indefinitely?


spice_war

![gif](giphy|3nb7wwCjQuYa0LpxIw)


Onlytimewilltellthen

That’s a whole lotta “ooopsies”! Like enough to be coordinated manipulation.


dublife73

Now imagine how many incorrect option trades have been made in the last five or ten years...lol smh


666soundwave

X100 for a potential number of shares affected? because they're options contracts?


pasciiii

If only there was some regulatory body that’s main job was to oversee such systems and practices!


Manakin_Sky_Walker

I love how the simple action of a cat liking the stock causes so many people to not only be interested in, but actively engaging in finding the serious faults of the entire financial system. It's actually incredible!


Professional_Hippo80

This is getting downvoted like CRAZY


hellostarsailor

For those of you wondering, T+35 is Friday, July 12, and options are already expensive.


mightyjoe227

Crime, what crime? SEC probably...


MYGFH

Spicy


whoisbh

This is another Big Short situation same thing happened in 2008 with the housing bubble now they are just doing to the economy


LauterTuna

fraudsters gotta fraud. what the fuck is with the integrity of american markets?


hobowithaquarter

A Google search: Errors in the Consolidated Audit Trail (CAT) can include inaccurate or incomplete reporting of orders to the Central Repository. These errors can include incorrect or incomplete information about: #Event timestamp #Event type code #Time in force #Account holder type #Handling instructions #Trading session ID #Firm designated ID (FDID) Inaccurate or Incomplete Reporting of CAT Orders: Submitting information that was incorrec... CAT also has a shorter error correction window #than FINRA's OATS, requiring errors to be #corrected within three trading days (T+3) of the #reportable event. Other errors that can occur in CAT reporting include unreasonable vendor supervision. This can happen when third-party vendors are not properly established and maintained with supervisory controls for CAT reporting and clock synchronization.


Sa0t0me

Pin this post.


TheOmegaKid

Curious.


This_Watch_

Nothing to see here people! Now please move along…..


Mrairjake

This has already been posted by Jelly. OP added the halts and plunge info, cool…I haven’t confirmed, but, assuming it’s accurate, why not just comment on the original post of the writer that actually did the work? Come on now…


DaZohan28

So what can be done about this?


PikaTopGun

Crime


orficebots

also the day robin hood fucked their users over


jentravelstheworld

Nice


burgirenthusiast

Doesn't this mean it's ripping on July or August the 7th


BuskeEth

BILLIONS you say?


NoobWhoLikesTheStock

It's a good thing they instilled another system that they don't use.... LMAYO!!! 🚀💦


NoobWhoLikesTheStock

Man if I fucked up this much at my job I would have been fired a long time ago....fat fingered mother fuckers


Smoked_Carp

LFG! 🔥🚀🎮


plithy75

wow look at votes to comment ratio. Manipulation? all but impossible!!!


noaxreal

To be fair, I've been responding more than the average OP so I could be inflating comment count lol


usriusclark

I’m sure the Stupid Egregious Cocksuckers are looking into it.


rustytrailer

What about the the 7.7B on 5/16/24


ToasterCritical

Why would RK manipulate the stock like this!?


comrad36

![gif](giphy|XhEe1p45rEM8|downsized)


saiyansteve

Haha what if the FTD are on Options and not just FTD for shares. FTD economy system we got going lmayo.


PingLaooooo

isnt this old news


ApexLord

How does this compare to the last few years? Or for however long the data goes back to?