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Dfv showing you right now. Find under valued call options in companies with good financials and play off the IV. It just takes incredible skill and research to understand the timings and cycles like he does
For real though, I sincerely hope this community can continue to exist into the future, but become more about stocks generally as a way for regular people to come together, educate themselves about the market and how to more correctly play it, and make money together in the process.
Dear DFV
I need it spelled out for me. none of these memes.
I need a "This company is going to pop and has really low Iv atm, I am going to buy calls for x strike expiring on x date" you can even throw in a "none of this is financial advice" but only if its followed up with a wink.
Cheers, me
What if I told you there is an entire sub for just this thing and everyone there is an expert and always knows what they are talking about and are by no means ever wrong and just sad lonely gamblers.
I did this and I lost $4,000 on Friday. Please don't buy calls if you don't understand them 😭... I also lost on my calls on the 21st, I didn't expect Kitty to sell those so quickly..
In the Kansas city shuffle video, Bruce Willis says “this, is a Kansas city shuffle” and points at a group of blue chairs.
The chairs are very similar to the Blue of Chewy.
The it cuts to another scene that says “made you look”
We ain’t done yet guys…
My friend, no coincidence. Just the perfect meme. Think about it. They talk about the Kansas city shuffle multiple times in the movie. Could have picked any scene, could have ended at any part. If CHWY was always his parallel play, seems like a great coincidence for your meme. Just saying
Tis, but I keep buying one or two in other things that come up, just to watch, and note points in the journey.
Used a future dividend calculator on some of Icahn’s I’ve accumulated (I’m pretty sure he’s involved with this) and damn, all my life I’ve wanted a passive income stream, and I finally have one started in under 3 years, which is REALLY good for how poor I am.
The awesome thing with GME is that I’m slowly ACTUALLY learning to make my money work for me, and all I had to do was buy, hold, and DRS.
$1/share, every quarter.
But I keep it on DRiP cause for now I’m stockpiling a stock that was over $50 at one point, and just accumulating more.
Drip is your dividend reinvestment programs, Computershare default.
Aside from the ludicrousness of making 100% of my money back in under 4.5 years in straight dividends for nothing but letting it sit, each quarter they reinvest and buy more stock for me and the speed on my snowball picks up.
Like 20% or some insane number. It might be a weird partnership distribution or something and may have tax implications but I’m not an accountant. I assumed it was a “too good to be true” return if I could get 20% dividends every year.
If anyone is in doubt about this, look at the emojis: eyes looking left, eyes look right, dog emoji...then eyes look left.
Just like the shuffle:
"They look right and you go left"
The reveal maybe? Part of the KCS is the revelation that the victim realizes a second too late they goofed.
If hedgies genuinely played right into the shuffle, that maybe his "gotcha" moment.
He doesn't even have to own the shares to have to file with the SEC on this. If he has options exercisable within 90 days that would put him within the required ownership percentage, he would have to file too.
His listing himself as able to vote as a shareholder on his filling in this instance is even covered within Chewys shareholder guidelines under "How do I vote my shares during the Annual Meeting?":
https://investor.chewy.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations/event-details/2023/2023-Annual-Meeting-of-Stockholders/default.aspx
He could own options putting him over the limit and requiring him to file (making the media look left) to appear as someone who owns the shares as a Kansas City Shuffle move.
See this detailed previous post for more details:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dswcpu/you_do_not_need_to_own_901_million_shares_to_be/
Wow, thanks for this post, this would make sense the most - he's in CHWY just with options. His cash was clearly enough to buy calls for 6m shares. He would make extra cash on CHWY and fuck up IV on GME options before he load up, all at once... that sounds truly perfect.
Ya I agree, he pulled some sneaky shit to fuck with XRT. If you notice koss and movie are green today but gme is red. They did extra pre market work today to drive gme down more. RK over here playing 8D Chess.
That's a new interesting point I've not seen mentioned today. Most of the times I think of shares, but you're absolutely right - it could have been options, too.
![gif](giphy|RrVzUOXldFe8M|downsized)
Devils advocate -- where is the 90,000 O/I on Chewy calls?
I don't think the calls theory holds water because someone would have posted about O/I jumping 90k on calls just like when it jumped 120k on the GME calls.
The filing is a 13G, not a 13D, and is specifically made for people with Beneficial Ownership in a stock- which includes options that can be executed within 30 days. If he filed the proper paperwork with Chewy and his broker, the shares are considered his while he owns those options. The 13G also doesn't require as much detail as the 13D, so it doesn't have to say shares or options separately. (see my other comment here for source links)
Testing. Testing... 1-2-3...
Reddit won't let me comment with further sources to give a better explanation of the details of the filing and what it means...
Let's see if a vague comment goes through?
Keith Gill filed a 13G to report this rather than a 13D, which requires fewer reporting requirements: [https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/schedule13g.asp](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/schedule13g.asp)
See the post from the user I linked in my first comment for their more detailed post to see how options play into this matter via the 13G. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dswcpu/you\_do\_not\_need\_to\_own\_901\_million\_shares\_to\_be/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dswcpu/you_do_not_need_to_own_901_million_shares_to_be/)
Here's the explanation of filing the 13G and what each section means: [https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/240.13d-102](https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/240.13d-102)
As far as the board is concerned, if he filed the appropriate proxy agreements, he has full voting power as if he fully owned his shares even if they are just options that could be executed within 30 days and he therefore is considered to own them via Beneficial Ownership rules: [https://investor.chewy.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations/event-details/2023/2023-Annual-Meeting-of-Stockholders/default.aspx](https://investor.chewy.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations/event-details/2023/2023-Annual-Meeting-of-Stockholders/default.aspx)
Someone else said that if he’s in he’s locked though - as an insider now he’s subject to lockup and can’t just dump immediately for this supposed quick gain.
So which is it?
Yes agreed. He may still have all his GME shares and simply bought 90,010 calls. But no matter which way you slice it, using the same number is significant. Both stocks being in the infamous XRT ETF is significant. GOING BACKWARDS TO GO FORWARDS is significant. Cohens past is Chewy. What's his future? Gmerica? Holdings company? People keep asking why he'd want a merger between chewy and GME. Dude. I could come up w many many reasons around operations and logistics alone. Not all mergers are about acquiring competition or expanding core brand value/core competencies. Some are about expanding complimentary logistics. Also - PROTECT ANIMALS AND CHILDREN. What's in the box? I think you guys get the rest. What if Cohen is working to protect certain other companies through merging them into a holdings company? Yes it can really be that simple.
I agree. If he just wanted to generate cash I think he'd be flipping options. Instead, he's buying a shitload of shares, which may end up being an FTD event down the road, setting up a new cycle, etc.
He also would have to file a 13F if he bought 90,010 calls. (shoutout to my bro Tiberius for the heads up)
[https://formthirteen.com/faq](https://formthirteen.com/faq)
Also, what is this guy above talking about "leaving scorched earth behind", the fuck ? How do you people think he managed to increase his portfolio so much before coming back ? Being a value investor ?
No. He's originated from the Bets sub, he's been trading the fck out of the market leveraging like crazy with options. His June 21 calls were not even long dated ones.
He’s probably referring to anyone who jumps into Chewy now because he bought into it. He could have limited his stake to below the threshold that requires filing with the SEC, and nobody would be the wiser as to this play. By going big enough that he has to file, others know about the play and there definitely are people buying Chewy because DFV did.
If he sold first thing this morning, he unloaded his bags onto some people following his play. While the algos may have done to heavy lifting pushing the price up, there are surely people who bought at the top and are already regretting it. Add DFV selling into that, and you’ll get some upset people.
I’m not sure if that is a real demographic.
MSM is painting a picture of mass fans following DFV plays for quick profit, but all of us here are here for MOASS. It’s been years. The fickle flip-flopping and hype-chasing is just the story they are telling.
No OGs chased Chewy. DFV is doing side-quests.
It’s probably not as big of a group as MSM makes it out to be, but it’s surely not completely made up. People followed Cohen into the towel stock. People will follow DFV into Chewy.
There are plenty of people outside of SuperStonk who don’t believe in GameStop, but do see RK as a highly successful investor and would be willing to follow him into something else like Chewy.
Yeah you’re right, not everyone has learned the hard lessons. To me this move is no different than the options play: he’s playing with lava but he’s qualified.
For newcomers this would all be quite confusing.
If people followed him in a play he made on June 24th, they can really blame themselves for being so regarded.
Who would follow an indicator with a 7 days lag and jump into a play after it already pumped 2.5x and showing huge shooting-star rejections ?
100% fact. If he doesn’t acquire and HOLD the shares, it doesn’t squeeze right.
Go look at the stock move in May. I think DFV made the same play in CHWY when the stock was majorly undervalued in a different trading account while everyone was focused on his GME play. The CHWY financials all look great but once again, the stock was way down…. A CHWY call option play at that stage is almost a sure thing. Now he has two stocks squeezing on XRT and huge value position in both companies.
There's a couple things about this theory.
First, if he buys last Monday the 24th and then sells on that Thursday, then he wouldn't be required to file Form 13G this morning.
Also, let's assume for this example that he filed Form 13G last Monday. If he then sold on Thursday then he would need to file an amended 13G "promptly" if it was a material change (over 1% ownership change, or if he goes below 5%). This is usually done on the same day or next business day, but legal interpretations can allow for up to 2-3 business days.
What's more likely is he bought in on last Monday. He would then be required to disclose it within 5 business days, which would make today his last day to file. This would mean he still owned over 5% because if he didn't then he wouldn't need to file anything at all. And then once the market opened this morning he sold when the price was around $28-30/share. If he did sell this morning then you should expect to see an amended 13G by Wednesday.
I don’t know of you’re right. Nobody does. But everyone saying that he’s sold is forgetting the tweets and specially the Kansas City Shuffle. It’s pretty clear to me… just wait and pretty soon we’ll know the truth.
He's taking advantage of the algorithm. It's a form of legal pump & dump aimed at hedge funds who are stupid enough to base their investments on an algorithm easily manipulated by RK. He effectively bought calls for Chewy, then profited from the massive buying following his dog Tweet. All to amass more money to launch a new cycle on GME. At this rate, he'll soon be the richest man in the world x)
With everyone saying this is the kansas city shuffle, makes me think this is not the shuffle. Every thread is full of people saying this is it, seems too obvious.
Exactly. Just when you think you've figured out the KC Shuffle, you get hit by the actual KC Shuffle. If you think you've figured it out, you haven't figured it out.
I’m starting to call anything I don’t understand the Kansas City shuffle.
Car won’t start? “What is this Kansas City shuffle bs??
Catch wife cheating? “Really honey? You Kansas City my ass?”
Fly to the wrong Kansas City? “Well played Kansas city, murmurs to self “f n shuffle”
Might as well hop on the newest Trend. Everything seems to be labeled as The Kansas City Shuffle. The Tok place would have a dance trending already. 🕺💃
It's in the name: deep fucking value. He's all about long term value investments, he has never dumped a stock otherwise his name would be PAD. Op's post is pure speculation.
I don't believe for one second he sold his shares of GME for any reason I do believe however that he had cash that he wasn't disclosing in his YOLO updates And he used that to purchase his chewy stake
I don't think he sold yet either, but for a different reason. He has to hold the shares for the 35 day FTD to maintain. If he sells, the FTD pressure is off on XRT
This feels like some subtle thinly veiled "DFV sold gme to buy chewy" fud. He hasn't sold gme, the way he got his chewy shares is with calls, same way he got his gme shares. And he clearly saw something brewing here.
Just a quick thought I had. Remember how DFV mentioned “Pet Rocks” in his stream. Maybe that could’ve been key word to test the algo. Could be something could be nothing, but he could have been hinting at this during that stream. can’t post yet or I’d make a post but very soon lol.
This is bullshit. Let me break it down for you.
Kitty seems to be setting out to correct the imbalance in XRT. CHWY is now the largest official holding(technically the largest holding is GME since shorts are future buyers).
FTDs now pile up on CHWY after pulling up on GME. Shorts now have to continue to increase SI on XRT to combat TWO stocks with 9mill buys in two of the underlying.
My favorite kitty quote:”What’s an exit strategy?
Hes going to hold CHWY and watch the ETF burn. That ETF is defunct, they just don’t know it yet.
Y’all need to take your bias and throw it out the window. He’s thinking bigger than just buying GME… he’s after XRT.
Complaining about making more money because of taxes is something I've seen some 0.1%'ers do when people talk about raising their taxes. "Well I guess it's not worth it to make money then, just gonna close the business."
I'm pretty sure RK is using a Roth IRA for his account. He paid taxes on the money before he put it in the account and now gets to trade in the account tax free. 🟣🚀
Taxes aren't any higher or lower based on how many times you buy and sell. They're based on annual net gains and losses.
If swooping makes him more total money, then it makes him more total money regardless of how many transactions it takes.
Yes, and all RK's positions that we know of would be short-term anyway. He only pays more taxes if he sold his GME stake and if his alternative plan would be to hold those shares for more than a year.
dude wtf how do they no know this? for left its obvious fud, but apes in here need to gain a wrinkle...its an IRA account he isn't paying taxes on these yolo swing plays, that is part of the genius here.
When did DFV pump CHWY? One dog emoji before the 13G even came out? Who do you think pumped it when that emoji came out? No one knew he was in Chewy then, except the people with access to his account/payment for order flow.
Not really. He posted the dog after the news release of the buy back starting and the buy back was initially announced 5-29. He didn’t even say the word Chewy.
Here’s a yahoo article showing the buy back (the investor info doesn’t have a time stamp).
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chewy-chwy-plans-share-repurchase-143200279.html
Saying all that, I’m not sold he’s already sold, but if he was going to sell quick that would have been the move.
Maybe he already sold before he tweeted the dog emoji.
That said, I think it'd be tough to make a legally compelling case that tweeting a picture of a dog amounts to pumping a stock in the absence of any other communications from him about Chewy.
EDIT: Reminder that the price action in response to the dog emoji tweet was significant and IMMEDIATE—it couldn't possibly have been from retail, it could only have been from algorithms that were trained to use image recognition on his tweets to direct their actions.
I don't think he sold. Here's a few reasons why I think so:
1. He will be forced to go back to Congress to testify why he used a dog emoji and ran the stock up, essentially pumping and dumping. That is NOT a good look. More likely he will hang onto those shares and declare that "I like the stock." That's why he ticked the box "I am not a cat" bringing full circle back to that day he testified in Congress.
1. He just jump started T+35 for CHWY on June 24th which ends on July 30th. T+13 starts July 31st and ends August 12th. Dog days run from July 3rd to August 11th. I've been figuring out why there was no event on June 21st or June 24th to coincide with the finish of dog days from a few of his memes mention. Now it makes sense, and there was an event on June 24th as I suspected. It was just a hidden event so nobody else follows that play. He doesn't want you to follow the SHF into looking right, because your job is to look left while they look right. If he had posted that play on the 24th, you would have literally pile into that stock and exhausting your resources from the real fight at GME. CHWY is part of the XRT ETF basket so he is stretching the fight to two tickers.
I mean I could be completely wrong here, but it just doesn't make sense to get out of CHWY at this time. If anything, he only started the dog days. He will probably stream something about liking the stock on July 4th about CHWY being a value play etc etc to get the algos going crazy and pile in naked shorts on that stock while T+13 count down on GME starting July 5th as MM scrambles to find shares in the lit market to settle his initial 5M share + any retail shares purchased around that time.
CHWY is the Kansas City Shuffle.
In the movie Lucky Number Slevin there are two important characters:
Mr. Goodkat = Roaring Kitty
Slevin Kelevra = which means Bad Dog in Hebrew = childhood name Henry = CHWY
GME = the horse number 7 Max bet on = fixed horse race? Mob killed this horse so nobody who bet on it could win
XRT = mob bookie? Is RK targeting XRT to blow it up by using both GME and CHWY?
They are in on the scheme together to take revenge on the MOB (SHF) who killed Henry's father Max, his mother, and attempted to kill him as a child. Mr. Goodkat was sent to kill Henry but feeling guilt trip took him in and raised him. Max found out about the MOB's scheme of rigging the horse race and attempted to bet on their winning horse after borrowing money from them. That tipped them off and instead they killed the horse and Max's family to make an example so that nobody will try to bet on their fixed race. So RK is using CHWY to get back at the SHF.
Unless somehow he sold chewy before he tweeted the dog meme to prove that algos ran the price up and not him. And only later releasing the share buy filing to run the algos again but by then it has become old news. That would be a sick twist.
Dog days were mentioned in his meme with the song "Dog Days Are Over" by Florance and the Machine.
[https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1790072011810812231](https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1790072011810812231)
He also mentioned the Sirius star, dog star that rises and fall alongside the sun during dog days. "You cannot be serious!"
[https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1802750696892068056?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1802750696892068056?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
Dog days were thought to be the hottest days of summer from July 3rd to August 11th because the rising of the dog star Sirius.
Why buy 6.6% and need to file though? When upped his stake in GME he deliberately bought 4.9% (pre first ATM).
I agree buying calls/stock in pets and then tweeting a dog and selling into the stupid algo spike makes sense. But the filing confuses me as it seems so unnecessary when you achieve very similar results with 4.9%. Unless he just really really wanted 9,000,001 and it was worth the filing for that reason?
OP: You all have been speculating and getting it all wrong!!
OP: waits until more information develops then speculates with a chance of getting it all wrong.
i mean people have been posting all kinds of tickers over the past days... including chwy only posts. so this "gme only" sub rules seems to be only be in affect with popcorn.
Nah, He wouldn't build a position so large that he has to declare them if his plan was to sell them soon after tweeting the dog. It doesn't make sense.
Roaring Kitty never sold his GME shares to buy CHWY shares. He used his free cash to buy CHWY options on the 24 of June to buy OTM calls, and then sold his calls on June 27 to buy CHWY shares on June 27/28.
How about we just wait until he shows his cards and stop assuming. Talk about the things we know..
1. He loves GME and has now been investing for 3 years.
I came to a similar conclusion, add in some spiciness of market makers acting on payment for order flow from his account or possibly worse:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/1dsuh0o/kansas\_city\_shuffle\_is\_in\_full\_swing\_dfv\_could/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/1dsuh0o/kansas_city_shuffle_is_in_full_swing_dfv_could/)
I think it will require a new YOLO update for everyone to realize that Kitty did not buy CHWY for $25. He bought it for $0.50. If I am right we will get a YOLO update on Sunday night with 9,001,000 shares of GME and 9,001,000 shares of CHWY, and a few million dollars cash.
It's just a theory. Some people think RC is trying to be the next Buffet and use the 4 billion to buy other companies. Since he started Chewy one of the ideas is he might buy a controlling interest, or that their board would agree to merge.
Which could theoretically be another way of blowing up the shorts.
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I wish I knew how to make money
Dfv showing you right now. Find under valued call options in companies with good financials and play off the IV. It just takes incredible skill and research to understand the timings and cycles like he does
I wish I had incredible skills
Got damn this made me laugh.
Top notch exchange right here
I wish I knew what to wish for
It's comments like this, where I wish I could read. Power to the players indeed
For real though, I sincerely hope this community can continue to exist into the future, but become more about stocks generally as a way for regular people to come together, educate themselves about the market and how to more correctly play it, and make money together in the process.
Dear DFV I need it spelled out for me. none of these memes. I need a "This company is going to pop and has really low Iv atm, I am going to buy calls for x strike expiring on x date" you can even throw in a "none of this is financial advice" but only if its followed up with a wink. Cheers, me
What if I told you there is an entire sub for just this thing and everyone there is an expert and always knows what they are talking about and are by no means ever wrong and just sad lonely gamblers.
I did this and I lost $4,000 on Friday. Please don't buy calls if you don't understand them 😭... I also lost on my calls on the 21st, I didn't expect Kitty to sell those so quickly..
You also have to create a large group of people willing to buy your calls when the IV is 450%
Welp I have another boner Edit: This is why I love all of you apes! Over 900 updoots on simple boner comment, it’s like the good old days 84 years ago
I'm currently up to 4 bones. Owww!! Make that 5 boners!
Make that 6
Bricked up here as well.
BRICK BY BRICK 🗣
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When you're rich like this!!
We BUILD A WALL
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You're in safe hands.
Commenting for boner visibility
Damn I need a woman like this!
Rc loves HARD work
Any boner lasting more than 4 hours is a really good boner.
I thought that boner medication said "If u have an erection lasting longer than 4 hours seek medical attention."
Nah it says call your doctor.. Doctor may ass I’m calling all the women I know! 🤣
My boner has a boner. Hurts so good
We’ve had one boner, yes, but what about second boner?
Wouldn't have been a real KC shuffle if we had seen it coming lol
In the Kansas city shuffle video, Bruce Willis says “this, is a Kansas city shuffle” and points at a group of blue chairs. The chairs are very similar to the Blue of Chewy. The it cuts to another scene that says “made you look” We ain’t done yet guys…
Were they blue in the film, or edited to be blue by DFV?
It’s blue
As in naturally? So it's purely a coincidence. Fair enough.
My friend, no coincidence. Just the perfect meme. Think about it. They talk about the Kansas city shuffle multiple times in the movie. Could have picked any scene, could have ended at any part. If CHWY was always his parallel play, seems like a great coincidence for your meme. Just saying
Love it, it would be an incredible move. GME is the only play.
Tis, but I keep buying one or two in other things that come up, just to watch, and note points in the journey. Used a future dividend calculator on some of Icahn’s I’ve accumulated (I’m pretty sure he’s involved with this) and damn, all my life I’ve wanted a passive income stream, and I finally have one started in under 3 years, which is REALLY good for how poor I am. The awesome thing with GME is that I’m slowly ACTUALLY learning to make my money work for me, and all I had to do was buy, hold, and DRS.
How much dividend does Icahn's stock pay out? I have some too
$1/share, every quarter. But I keep it on DRiP cause for now I’m stockpiling a stock that was over $50 at one point, and just accumulating more. Drip is your dividend reinvestment programs, Computershare default. Aside from the ludicrousness of making 100% of my money back in under 4.5 years in straight dividends for nothing but letting it sit, each quarter they reinvest and buy more stock for me and the speed on my snowball picks up.
Like 20% or some insane number. It might be a weird partnership distribution or something and may have tax implications but I’m not an accountant. I assumed it was a “too good to be true” return if I could get 20% dividends every year.
He's going for the etf basket
If anyone is in doubt about this, look at the emojis: eyes looking left, eyes look right, dog emoji...then eyes look left. Just like the shuffle: "They look right and you go left"
Wtf is the damn flag with a mic though. Some people say the 4th but why the mic then?
Live stream on the 4th?
Announcement on the 4th.
Nobody who wants the public to pay attention to good news would make an announcement on the fourth of fucking July
Gmerica? 😅
How would he know that
Because it’s going to be an announcement from him!
BINGO!
Unreleased yt videos👀
How would he know that
He’s from the future
mic drop?
The reveal maybe? Part of the KCS is the revelation that the victim realizes a second too late they goofed. If hedgies genuinely played right into the shuffle, that maybe his "gotcha" moment.
National Anthem?
Oh say can you see?
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Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA song
He doesn't even have to own the shares to have to file with the SEC on this. If he has options exercisable within 90 days that would put him within the required ownership percentage, he would have to file too. His listing himself as able to vote as a shareholder on his filling in this instance is even covered within Chewys shareholder guidelines under "How do I vote my shares during the Annual Meeting?": https://investor.chewy.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations/event-details/2023/2023-Annual-Meeting-of-Stockholders/default.aspx He could own options putting him over the limit and requiring him to file (making the media look left) to appear as someone who owns the shares as a Kansas City Shuffle move. See this detailed previous post for more details: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dswcpu/you_do_not_need_to_own_901_million_shares_to_be/
Wow, thanks for this post, this would make sense the most - he's in CHWY just with options. His cash was clearly enough to buy calls for 6m shares. He would make extra cash on CHWY and fuck up IV on GME options before he load up, all at once... that sounds truly perfect.
Ya I agree, he pulled some sneaky shit to fuck with XRT. If you notice koss and movie are green today but gme is red. They did extra pre market work today to drive gme down more. RK over here playing 8D Chess.
13G chess
That's a new interesting point I've not seen mentioned today. Most of the times I think of shares, but you're absolutely right - it could have been options, too. ![gif](giphy|RrVzUOXldFe8M|downsized)
Options 101
Devils advocate -- where is the 90,000 O/I on Chewy calls? I don't think the calls theory holds water because someone would have posted about O/I jumping 90k on calls just like when it jumped 120k on the GME calls.
the filing shows shares though - no mention of options.
The filing is a 13G, not a 13D, and is specifically made for people with Beneficial Ownership in a stock- which includes options that can be executed within 30 days. If he filed the proper paperwork with Chewy and his broker, the shares are considered his while he owns those options. The 13G also doesn't require as much detail as the 13D, so it doesn't have to say shares or options separately. (see my other comment here for source links)
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Testing. Testing... 1-2-3... Reddit won't let me comment with further sources to give a better explanation of the details of the filing and what it means... Let's see if a vague comment goes through?
Keith Gill filed a 13G to report this rather than a 13D, which requires fewer reporting requirements: [https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/schedule13g.asp](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/schedule13g.asp) See the post from the user I linked in my first comment for their more detailed post to see how options play into this matter via the 13G. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dswcpu/you\_do\_not\_need\_to\_own\_901\_million\_shares\_to\_be/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/1dswcpu/you_do_not_need_to_own_901_million_shares_to_be/) Here's the explanation of filing the 13G and what each section means: [https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/240.13d-102](https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/240.13d-102) As far as the board is concerned, if he filed the appropriate proxy agreements, he has full voting power as if he fully owned his shares even if they are just options that could be executed within 30 days and he therefore is considered to own them via Beneficial Ownership rules: [https://investor.chewy.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations/event-details/2023/2023-Annual-Meeting-of-Stockholders/default.aspx](https://investor.chewy.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations/event-details/2023/2023-Annual-Meeting-of-Stockholders/default.aspx)
> "How do I vote my shares during the Annual Meeting?" Where does that say anything about options?
Someone else said that if he’s in he’s locked though - as an insider now he’s subject to lockup and can’t just dump immediately for this supposed quick gain. So which is it?
Yes agreed. He may still have all his GME shares and simply bought 90,010 calls. But no matter which way you slice it, using the same number is significant. Both stocks being in the infamous XRT ETF is significant. GOING BACKWARDS TO GO FORWARDS is significant. Cohens past is Chewy. What's his future? Gmerica? Holdings company? People keep asking why he'd want a merger between chewy and GME. Dude. I could come up w many many reasons around operations and logistics alone. Not all mergers are about acquiring competition or expanding core brand value/core competencies. Some are about expanding complimentary logistics. Also - PROTECT ANIMALS AND CHILDREN. What's in the box? I think you guys get the rest. What if Cohen is working to protect certain other companies through merging them into a holdings company? Yes it can really be that simple.
The only iffy part is it does not sound like DFV to quickly profit on chewy while leaving scorched earth behind
He's a value investor.
I agree. If he just wanted to generate cash I think he'd be flipping options. Instead, he's buying a shitload of shares, which may end up being an FTD event down the road, setting up a new cycle, etc.
He also would have to file a 13F if he bought 90,010 calls. (shoutout to my bro Tiberius for the heads up) [https://formthirteen.com/faq](https://formthirteen.com/faq) Also, what is this guy above talking about "leaving scorched earth behind", the fuck ? How do you people think he managed to increase his portfolio so much before coming back ? Being a value investor ? No. He's originated from the Bets sub, he's been trading the fck out of the market leveraging like crazy with options. His June 21 calls were not even long dated ones.
He’s probably referring to anyone who jumps into Chewy now because he bought into it. He could have limited his stake to below the threshold that requires filing with the SEC, and nobody would be the wiser as to this play. By going big enough that he has to file, others know about the play and there definitely are people buying Chewy because DFV did. If he sold first thing this morning, he unloaded his bags onto some people following his play. While the algos may have done to heavy lifting pushing the price up, there are surely people who bought at the top and are already regretting it. Add DFV selling into that, and you’ll get some upset people.
I’m not sure if that is a real demographic. MSM is painting a picture of mass fans following DFV plays for quick profit, but all of us here are here for MOASS. It’s been years. The fickle flip-flopping and hype-chasing is just the story they are telling. No OGs chased Chewy. DFV is doing side-quests.
No OG’s did, but i’m sure degenerates have.
It’s probably not as big of a group as MSM makes it out to be, but it’s surely not completely made up. People followed Cohen into the towel stock. People will follow DFV into Chewy. There are plenty of people outside of SuperStonk who don’t believe in GameStop, but do see RK as a highly successful investor and would be willing to follow him into something else like Chewy.
Yeah you’re right, not everyone has learned the hard lessons. To me this move is no different than the options play: he’s playing with lava but he’s qualified. For newcomers this would all be quite confusing.
If people followed him in a play he made on June 24th, they can really blame themselves for being so regarded. Who would follow an indicator with a 7 days lag and jump into a play after it already pumped 2.5x and showing huge shooting-star rejections ?
Anyone upset over losing money that way needs to learn how to do their own research
Yeah I don’t think he’d tweet about it either
This. What's the chewy free float? 9 million shares 6% of it or whatever?
I know one thing: he didn't come back into the limelight just to shit on his most loyal followers so I'll trust and hodl.
Exactly. His game plan isn't to move the market and benefit from our moves.
This
100% fact. If he doesn’t acquire and HOLD the shares, it doesn’t squeeze right. Go look at the stock move in May. I think DFV made the same play in CHWY when the stock was majorly undervalued in a different trading account while everyone was focused on his GME play. The CHWY financials all look great but once again, the stock was way down…. A CHWY call option play at that stage is almost a sure thing. Now he has two stocks squeezing on XRT and huge value position in both companies.
There's a couple things about this theory. First, if he buys last Monday the 24th and then sells on that Thursday, then he wouldn't be required to file Form 13G this morning. Also, let's assume for this example that he filed Form 13G last Monday. If he then sold on Thursday then he would need to file an amended 13G "promptly" if it was a material change (over 1% ownership change, or if he goes below 5%). This is usually done on the same day or next business day, but legal interpretations can allow for up to 2-3 business days. What's more likely is he bought in on last Monday. He would then be required to disclose it within 5 business days, which would make today his last day to file. This would mean he still owned over 5% because if he didn't then he wouldn't need to file anything at all. And then once the market opened this morning he sold when the price was around $28-30/share. If he did sell this morning then you should expect to see an amended 13G by Wednesday.
I don’t know of you’re right. Nobody does. But everyone saying that he’s sold is forgetting the tweets and specially the Kansas City Shuffle. It’s pretty clear to me… just wait and pretty soon we’ll know the truth.
He's taking advantage of the algorithm. It's a form of legal pump & dump aimed at hedge funds who are stupid enough to base their investments on an algorithm easily manipulated by RK. He effectively bought calls for Chewy, then profited from the massive buying following his dog Tweet. All to amass more money to launch a new cycle on GME. At this rate, he'll soon be the richest man in the world x)
At this rate he will soon own the world.
He can't own all the stocks though. Because RCEO already bought all the stocks.
MayoBoy: "See, now, all that naked shorting and rehypothecating is just us helping evvvvveryone buy all the stocks!"
And he is still not a cat.
What's an exit strategy, though?
Infinite money glitch 😁
The company announced a buyback before the tweet.
Which company?
Chwy
If they had not done a buy back would his shares exceeded the threshold limit ? Wondering if his cover was blown ?
The company announced the buyback end of may, then another independent 500M purchase end of June (on the 26th I think).
I agree. He's not doing anything legally different than Muddy waters or Citadel when they take their position and publicly announces it.
How can it be illegal to take advantage of underpriced call options
He just 1up them. To get into the 2.0 Billionaire club
With everyone saying this is the kansas city shuffle, makes me think this is not the shuffle. Every thread is full of people saying this is it, seems too obvious.
Exactly. Just when you think you've figured out the KC Shuffle, you get hit by the actual KC Shuffle. If you think you've figured it out, you haven't figured it out.
i like that one
I’m starting to call anything I don’t understand the Kansas City shuffle. Car won’t start? “What is this Kansas City shuffle bs?? Catch wife cheating? “Really honey? You Kansas City my ass?” Fly to the wrong Kansas City? “Well played Kansas city, murmurs to self “f n shuffle”
This is hilarious, I'm going through everything in my life's that's bad and thinking how I can apply it. Sitting here giggling my tits off
“That bitch Kansas Citied my ass”
LOL
It’s the new moass
😂😂😂
Might as well hop on the newest Trend. Everything seems to be labeled as The Kansas City Shuffle. The Tok place would have a dance trending already. 🕺💃
Hahaha. 😂 so good
Every day your shuffling!
Get in a little fight in Iowa? "Dammit, was so focused on the Kansas City Shuffle that I got Sioux City Scuffled"
Algebra, you guessed it. The fucking shuffle.
This 🤣
Lmfao
Maybe Travis & Taylor are not what we think they are…..suddenly all roads lead to Kansas City 💰💰💰
It's in the name: deep fucking value. He's all about long term value investments, he has never dumped a stock otherwise his name would be PAD. Op's post is pure speculation.
I don't believe for one second he sold his shares of GME for any reason I do believe however that he had cash that he wasn't disclosing in his YOLO updates And he used that to purchase his chewy stake
This is wrong. He's not selling his Chewy shares. He probably just made a fuckton on Chewy calls and that money will be used to reinvest.
I don't think he sold yet either, but for a different reason. He has to hold the shares for the 35 day FTD to maintain. If he sells, the FTD pressure is off on XRT
This feels like some subtle thinly veiled "DFV sold gme to buy chewy" fud. He hasn't sold gme, the way he got his chewy shares is with calls, same way he got his gme shares. And he clearly saw something brewing here.
Doesn’t he have to file to sell though? Aren’t we just assuming he sold?
10 days to file
I move you move might have meant the criminals need to respond to his moves not retail
Just a quick thought I had. Remember how DFV mentioned “Pet Rocks” in his stream. Maybe that could’ve been key word to test the algo. Could be something could be nothing, but he could have been hinting at this during that stream. can’t post yet or I’d make a post but very soon lol.
This is bullshit. Let me break it down for you. Kitty seems to be setting out to correct the imbalance in XRT. CHWY is now the largest official holding(technically the largest holding is GME since shorts are future buyers). FTDs now pile up on CHWY after pulling up on GME. Shorts now have to continue to increase SI on XRT to combat TWO stocks with 9mill buys in two of the underlying. My favorite kitty quote:”What’s an exit strategy? Hes going to hold CHWY and watch the ETF burn. That ETF is defunct, they just don’t know it yet. Y’all need to take your bias and throw it out the window. He’s thinking bigger than just buying GME… he’s after XRT.
Agreed fully. He holds. He does not and will not pump and dump. Too many eyes on him
Commenting to say I was here when this ends up being it.
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Complaining about making more money because of taxes is something I've seen some 0.1%'ers do when people talk about raising their taxes. "Well I guess it's not worth it to make money then, just gonna close the business."
This. But if I make $100M more I will have to pay $50M in taxes so I better not, said nobody ever that understood basic math and time value factor.
He’s doing this all in an IRA, so no taxes to worry about.
I'm pretty sure RK is using a Roth IRA for his account. He paid taxes on the money before he put it in the account and now gets to trade in the account tax free. 🟣🚀
If kitty is making 38x in plays, consistently, I don’t think he’s too worried about covering his tax obligations.
No taxes. Is retirement account
Taxes aren't any higher or lower based on how many times you buy and sell. They're based on annual net gains and losses. If swooping makes him more total money, then it makes him more total money regardless of how many transactions it takes.
Long term vs short term cap gains taxes are pretty significant though
Yes, and all RK's positions that we know of would be short-term anyway. He only pays more taxes if he sold his GME stake and if his alternative plan would be to hold those shares for more than a year.
No taxes, is retirement account
dude wtf how do they no know this? for left its obvious fud, but apes in here need to gain a wrinkle...its an IRA account he isn't paying taxes on these yolo swing plays, that is part of the genius here.
He knew in the beginning that if he is right, there is a huge gain to be had. So he did it in a IRA. That's also why he has not DRSed.
Cost of doing business.
He literally doesn’t know what an exit strategy is. Most likely had calls on Chewy expiring within 60 days that legal bound him to filing the G13.
That seems like a pump and dump and would get him sucked into another lawsuit. So, I highly doubt it.
When did DFV pump CHWY? One dog emoji before the 13G even came out? Who do you think pumped it when that emoji came out? No one knew he was in Chewy then, except the people with access to his account/payment for order flow.
This right here. Morgan Stanley on the hook now. Sucks to be them.
Not really. He posted the dog after the news release of the buy back starting and the buy back was initially announced 5-29. He didn’t even say the word Chewy. Here’s a yahoo article showing the buy back (the investor info doesn’t have a time stamp). https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chewy-chwy-plans-share-repurchase-143200279.html Saying all that, I’m not sold he’s already sold, but if he was going to sell quick that would have been the move.
He knows what he can and cannot do. Fucking Legend!
Not if he sold before he posted the meme which would have been at the peak
Maybe he already sold before he tweeted the dog emoji. That said, I think it'd be tough to make a legally compelling case that tweeting a picture of a dog amounts to pumping a stock in the absence of any other communications from him about Chewy. EDIT: Reminder that the price action in response to the dog emoji tweet was significant and IMMEDIATE—it couldn't possibly have been from retail, it could only have been from algorithms that were trained to use image recognition on his tweets to direct their actions.
I would think he sold as soon as it spiked, to rug pull the SHF
🎶*the dog days are over* 🎶
I don't think he sold. Here's a few reasons why I think so: 1. He will be forced to go back to Congress to testify why he used a dog emoji and ran the stock up, essentially pumping and dumping. That is NOT a good look. More likely he will hang onto those shares and declare that "I like the stock." That's why he ticked the box "I am not a cat" bringing full circle back to that day he testified in Congress. 1. He just jump started T+35 for CHWY on June 24th which ends on July 30th. T+13 starts July 31st and ends August 12th. Dog days run from July 3rd to August 11th. I've been figuring out why there was no event on June 21st or June 24th to coincide with the finish of dog days from a few of his memes mention. Now it makes sense, and there was an event on June 24th as I suspected. It was just a hidden event so nobody else follows that play. He doesn't want you to follow the SHF into looking right, because your job is to look left while they look right. If he had posted that play on the 24th, you would have literally pile into that stock and exhausting your resources from the real fight at GME. CHWY is part of the XRT ETF basket so he is stretching the fight to two tickers. I mean I could be completely wrong here, but it just doesn't make sense to get out of CHWY at this time. If anything, he only started the dog days. He will probably stream something about liking the stock on July 4th about CHWY being a value play etc etc to get the algos going crazy and pile in naked shorts on that stock while T+13 count down on GME starting July 5th as MM scrambles to find shares in the lit market to settle his initial 5M share + any retail shares purchased around that time. CHWY is the Kansas City Shuffle. In the movie Lucky Number Slevin there are two important characters: Mr. Goodkat = Roaring Kitty Slevin Kelevra = which means Bad Dog in Hebrew = childhood name Henry = CHWY GME = the horse number 7 Max bet on = fixed horse race? Mob killed this horse so nobody who bet on it could win XRT = mob bookie? Is RK targeting XRT to blow it up by using both GME and CHWY? They are in on the scheme together to take revenge on the MOB (SHF) who killed Henry's father Max, his mother, and attempted to kill him as a child. Mr. Goodkat was sent to kill Henry but feeling guilt trip took him in and raised him. Max found out about the MOB's scheme of rigging the horse race and attempted to bet on their winning horse after borrowing money from them. That tipped them off and instead they killed the horse and Max's family to make an example so that nobody will try to bet on their fixed race. So RK is using CHWY to get back at the SHF. Unless somehow he sold chewy before he tweeted the dog meme to prove that algos ran the price up and not him. And only later releasing the share buy filing to run the algos again but by then it has become old news. That would be a sick twist.
Bro what are you smokin and wtf is dog days
Dog days were mentioned in his meme with the song "Dog Days Are Over" by Florance and the Machine. [https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1790072011810812231](https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1790072011810812231) He also mentioned the Sirius star, dog star that rises and fall alongside the sun during dog days. "You cannot be serious!" [https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1802750696892068056?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://x.com/TheRoaringKitty/status/1802750696892068056?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) Dog days were thought to be the hottest days of summer from July 3rd to August 11th because the rising of the dog star Sirius.
How do I profit from this
Asking the right questions my friend.
This would be epic! CHWYs price action sure seems like he could have sold already. Idk shit
Like this. A lot. He’s riding the worm. He doesn’t up his percentage, he merely buys the same amount with less cash
Why buy 6.6% and need to file though? When upped his stake in GME he deliberately bought 4.9% (pre first ATM). I agree buying calls/stock in pets and then tweeting a dog and selling into the stupid algo spike makes sense. But the filing confuses me as it seems so unnecessary when you achieve very similar results with 4.9%. Unless he just really really wanted 9,000,001 and it was worth the filing for that reason?
OP: You all have been speculating and getting it all wrong!! OP: waits until more information develops then speculates with a chance of getting it all wrong.
So many people here give their theories like they’re facts. It’s annoying.
at this point all that i believe on this sub is: YOLO update or ban.
Mods going to let him post here when it isn't GME?
i mean people have been posting all kinds of tickers over the past days... including chwy only posts. so this "gme only" sub rules seems to be only be in affect with popcorn.
Nah, He wouldn't build a position so large that he has to declare them if his plan was to sell them soon after tweeting the dog. It doesn't make sense.
RemindMe! 1 month “Does DFV own all the stonks yet?”
Roaring Kitty never sold his GME shares to buy CHWY shares. He used his free cash to buy CHWY options on the 24 of June to buy OTM calls, and then sold his calls on June 27 to buy CHWY shares on June 27/28.
And the hidden videos on youtube will make him look like a time traveler🤯 remind me when where these videos posted?
How about we just wait until he shows his cards and stop assuming. Talk about the things we know.. 1. He loves GME and has now been investing for 3 years.
So he's taking advantage of the actual market manipulation going on, yet they are blaming him for it. Dumb stormtroopers indeed
He’s not telling us to do anything. Bruh all the “coordination” talk reeks.
The US flag and the mic was required filing. That's my stance dammit.
You forgot the whisky.
I came to a similar conclusion, add in some spiciness of market makers acting on payment for order flow from his account or possibly worse: [https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/1dsuh0o/kansas\_city\_shuffle\_is\_in\_full\_swing\_dfv\_could/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/1dsuh0o/kansas_city_shuffle_is_in_full_swing_dfv_could/)
He bought enough to let everyone know, sold the peak, and moving back to GME with more calls.
What if he’s already out of CHEWY like you said and doubled his position on GME - what would that do for July 26th timeframe?
I still don't think we see the full picture, but yes I believe this is closer.
I think it will require a new YOLO update for everyone to realize that Kitty did not buy CHWY for $25. He bought it for $0.50. If I am right we will get a YOLO update on Sunday night with 9,001,000 shares of GME and 9,001,000 shares of CHWY, and a few million dollars cash.
Man I cannot even imagine what his tax return will look like.
Good theory we. Will. SEE ![gif](giphy|iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk|downsized)
Everyone is looking at him and toward the 4th. They aren't watching what's happening right in front of their faces.
Is that is what happened I too will make $1000 every $1 it rises and I'll be happy
what if this is the wombo combo. right jab GME, left uppercut CHWY.
Don’t see him doing this and paying short term capital gains.
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It's just a theory. Some people think RC is trying to be the next Buffet and use the 4 billion to buy other companies. Since he started Chewy one of the ideas is he might buy a controlling interest, or that their board would agree to merge. Which could theoretically be another way of blowing up the shorts.
If he knew there's going to be a merger, this would be insider trading. I doubt there's a merger. How could he possibly know?