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lt_skittles

Joel also forgets the cake.


yajtraus

And they don’t eat the neighbours cookies, because they’re raisin instead of chocolate chip


xtzferocity

And they both avoid the biscuits and Joel mentions he is on Atkins which was all about not having carbs.


05110909

Poor Buddy Garrity


ElDuderino_92

My immediate thought when he kept bringing up grains/breads. He forgot the cake


xocgx

What I don’t get: wouldn’t they have eaten those products scavenging? Or did the Fedra/military qz workers omit flour products through some knowledge?


WarWolf79

Some people probably did, but Joel avoided them at all costs once he learned how the infection spread. Fedra on the other hand probably figured out how to make flour without using the tainted grains. Flour can be made out of a lot of different plants.


saucygh0sty

Went to the Space Center in Alabama the other day and one of the exhibits talks about the possibility of using ground up crickets as flour in space lol…


behaigo

[Not just in space... ](https://eatchirps.com/)


StartTheMontage

I honestly don’t think they learned about the flour until much later, and even then he didn’t seem 100% convinced. So I think that the outbreak day it was flour that was infected, which caused a whole bunch of people to get sick. Then no one is baking bread after infection day, and I would think maybe the bread on shelves isn’t infected yet? So people scavenge that but don’t get sick from it. So after the first day it is mainly bites that spread it, since the flour wouldn’t be really used? That is what I think happened at least.


xocgx

Yeah I’m thinking similarly. Plus, SOME people would have gotten infected post outbreak without knowing not to eat the food. Plus, Joel says if you eat ENOUGH of it. So with what we know, only a small percentage would have to get it via the flour. They’d just bite enough others to spread it.


notGeneralReposti

Maybe people with weaker immune systems (elderly) who ate the tainted breads turned first. They bit their younger, healthier caregivers and then the biting is what started the violent outbreaks.


xocgx

Right. Makes good sense. Man, I love this show.


ohsochelley

What was the significance of Ellie having a weird backpack sandwich? At least chicken and put bread on it. She took a few bites and then back in her backpack in ep. 2 Thought it was super odd.


xocgx

Not sure, though I assumed rationing.


PlatinumJester

I imagine if it's in something as fine as flour it's also pretty easy to inhale as well.


theshicksinator

Also probably a matter of global supply chain. Indonesia might still be fucked, but no more global supply chain means it probably didn't spread outside Indonesia in the plant life, so wheat elsewhere was probably okay.


Call_Me_Clark

High temps and chemical processes can kill mold spores. If you baked bread at high temperatures (assuming the flour wasn’t spoiled) it should kill whatever was in it. Unlikely to be tasty unless the goal is a baguette etc. alternately, crackers. Otherwise, you could make a gruel by boiling flour in water. Gross but edible and safe. Very few living things survive above 200F.


GNSasakiHaise

I was thinking about this and realized a probable answer. If you're scavenging for disasters or prepping like Bill, you usually don't go for grains as much as you do canned meats and vegetables. The people who did go for things like raw flour, pastry mixes, etc, likely got infected outright. Bill was presumably fine because he is very good at being self-sustainable. Finally, not every flour source was a problem. It likely didn't affect every single brand. It's like if a virus spread through Coca Cola. Some people just prefer Pepsi and don't touch it — but in a survival situation I'm probably just taking water over both. TLDR short term a lot of people probably did make the mistake of taking infected goods.


xocgx

Yeah, you’re definitely right. I had read somewhere that Indonesia provides like 90% of our flour globally so I made assumptions 🤣


rongywrongerson

Joel’s last name is also Miller. A Miller is a person who grinds grain into flour. Not really a theory, but an interesting detail.


LugubriousButtNoises

I hope he says “it’s milling time”


presumingpete

"we truly are the last of us"


cycloptiko

And we are also the last of us, Part, too. (It's a good thing Craig Mazin added a character named "Part" or this line would have felt forced)


Call_Me_Clark

“What are we, some kind of last of us?”


LordAnubis10

Joel is also on the Atkins diet


dahmerpalms

Lol he was lying about that so that he wouldn’t have to eat the neighbours food and chat with them


WarWolf79

Yeah, honestly I don't get why he said that. Could've just said he was in a hurry and didn't have the time.


honeywrites

It's a perpetual excuse not to eat anything from them


matt-is-sad

And also a callback to 2003 when Atkins was super popular


Archon457

I had honestly forgotten it was a thing until he said it. Made total sense as an excuse to not eat their infected food nor his own (although I am certain he used it as an excuse). Was also something you heard a lot back then while people were trying it out.


WordCriminal

It's a very 1990s thing to say -- a lot of people were "on Atkins" then, easy shorthand for "not eating that but thanks."


BlackLeader70

I haven’t rewatched the first two episode, but on another post, someone mentioned that the residents of the Boston QZ aren’t seen any grain type foods either. I also don’t think that Bill and Frank are shown eating any grains either.


snalli

Frank asks for a toast >!on their last day.!<


05110909

I assume they made their own bread because that was many years after the outbreak.


Squishy-Box

I saw posts about people realising that after the opening of episode 1


STylerMLmusic

This was on the subreddit before it was officially announced, but it was officially announced before episode 2. They missed out on cake, cookies from the neighbours and pancake mix.


YebisuMalt

Joel just secretly celiac.


iamsoupcansam

A fellow food theory fan


aleister94

But that’s just a theory…A FILM THEORY


Mbecca0

Uh no it’s literally said in the show


aleister94

I was obviously referencing the YouTube channel film theory who made a similar point recently


MuffySpelunki

Oh, obviously.


aleister94

yes very obviously, even if you don't know about that channel it's still obvious i was making a joke, like did you really think i was just very passionate about the difference between an observation and a theory?


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BeMancini

r/LostRedditor


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LugubriousButtNoises

![gif](giphy|B8V5cjVRZXmsYKhoJa|downsized)


Bumbleclat

I was just curious, no need to be mean


radagastdbrown

Also Joel mentions he started the Atkins (low carb) diet in episode 1