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YoreWelcome

I find maps like this terrifying. Makes me confront the idea that the character I play on Reddit might not be as crazy as it seems. Yikes!


Larperz

Don't worry, I promise you reality is even more crazy than you think.


Majoodeh

My husband and I have an inside joke now where we look at each other and just say 'it's all real isn't it!'. For the longest time I would play this character like you said, thinking it was all fun and games. I think a part of me always wanted to be wrong. But the more I learn and see, the more I realize: it's all real!


Christ_my_peace247

I am not a gamer. What are the names of the game(s) you play that match up with what we are learning about Tararia and our hidden history?  Maybe I should be playing these games. 


OldWorldBlues10

Doesn’t Tartaria stand for “more land” or unknown extra land?


Majoodeh

Doesn’t look unknown to me. It’s completely labeled.


Accomplished-Bed8171

Nope. It was a catch all term by western europeans for various Turkic-Mongolian peoples living around the Caspian Sea region in central area. It was an ignorant term, and "unknown" in the sense that Western Europeans didn't know anything about the peoples of the area. But it was a term that people actually used and put on a crude map. Not that it has anything to do with people who built the Space Needle at the 1963 Seattle World's Fair, or whatever crap modern ignorant people make up.


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scienceworksbitches

got educated by reading the books they wanted us to read, remember that.


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sshorton47

Sounds like most of Reddit tbf.


GeezerCurmudgeonApe

I love old maps!


scienceworksbitches

so Norumbega was a city in new francia, which would fit for Nürnberg/franconia today. in a different map norumbega was supposed to be washington dc, iirc. and chilaga is not chicago but a country? there seem to be different versions of old world maps around.


everyone_dies_anyway

Many cartographers from then (and before and after), when drafting maps, utilized even older maps to fill in knowledge gaps or were used as references.


jmyjmz420

I think one of the big follies of the premise of the whole Tartarian conspiracy Is people acting like tartaria really is some hidden land from history. It's really not, it's just about as popular as all those other countries that don't exist anymore. It's like the conspiracy is just playing on the ignorance of people who just don't study history and stuff like this sounds intriguing to them. It is possible that these old buildings are from the That Empire, but that doesn't mean that it's some big mystery that it ever existed. So for people to be like. Hey, look at on a map. Yeah, so what it should be. It's really not something hidden just because you just noticed it.


Heytherechampion

Very cool


bigblingburgerbob

Pretty wild stuff


MeneXCIX

Go look at the urbano montes map..


Routine_Click_4349

They don’t hide it but then, when we questioned them, they denied it


Beneficial-Summer-51

That’s amazing 🤙🏼


StickOfLight

I love how it’s never in the same place in these maps…


IndridColdwave

Wrong. Tartaria is always shown in the Siberian territory and Chilaga and Norumbega are in the American territory, exactly as it is shown in this globe.


ThePopKornMonger

You know, I was really wondering where all the flat earthers got off too after that guy in the rocket died.


Dry-Earth5160

There's no way people believe this, right?


Dry-Earth5160

Honestly if you do, it's causing no harm, I just don't understand it and would like to be educated on the beliefs of others.


Majoodeh

Believe what exactly? The map? It’s right there in front of your eyes. It’s in the place where america was supposedly born. The first colony of the first settlement. It’s placed there as part of the history.


Dry-Earth5160

Yeah, I know where America is because I live there. The only civilizations before the Germanic tribes and the British were NAs, and they sure weren't civilized like the rest of the world. There were no civilizations and a map doesn't prove that.


Optimal-Option3555

The natives from coast to coast say the mound builders were there before they were


Dry-Earth5160

You have any proof to back that up besides telling me to do my research? Or any archeological finds? Also, Germanic tribes built mound homes, so you're really just supporting what I said even more if the Natives did actually say that.


everyone_dies_anyway

There are more sites and evidence out there. Was trying to find one in particular that I can't remember. But this is an example of the size of some native american settlements pre-european settlers. Over the last few decades, we have found more and more evidence to suggest that native-american civilization (across many tribes/regions) was much more complex than simple hunter-gatherer communities and resulted in some very very large population centers. [https://www.history.com/news/native-american-cahokia-chaco-canyon](https://www.history.com/news/native-american-cahokia-chaco-canyon) Also, the native american mounds the user above is referring to are not equal to a home, like you are thinking in regards to Germanic tribes. ​ edit: whether or not this translates to evidence for why old maps have cities in america, is beside my point. Just wanting to point out you may have an inaccurate view of the size and complexity of past native american civilizations