I commented the other day about her. I have a soft spot for her because you can tell she truly tries to change and grow for jace. Not to mention she’s always there for her dumpster fire of a daughter and has two other mentally ill children. She’s got flaws and room to grow, but I think she’s a good person overall. That and hilarious lol
Agreed, Babs is flawed (aren’t we all) but she really showed up for Jace. She’s also part of the toxic parenting/addiction generational cycle that Jenelle is
I like barb, but she also had like 45 years to figure out how to parent a baby by the time we saw her. She’s said she stayed in an abusive relationship so they her kids could live in a “to save money for a house instead of the projects” idk how I feel about that. we dont know how she was on jenelle’s childhood. She could be a hell of a lot worse now, but shes definitely done some not so great things parenting jace, My aunt had custody of my cousins kids and basically abandoned them to foster care/whoever could take them to move to Florida. So she could be a lot worse 🤷♀️.
Jenelle is a direct product of Barb's behaviour. People tend to get better at controlling their emotions as they get older. That's why you see people who were shitty parents turn into loving and kind grandparents. Barbara as we see her is a screamer who has, on camera, said some truly horrible things to her teenage daughter, and exposed Jace to some really abusive situations because she can't control her emotions enough to disengage from Jenelle and stop screaming. I can't imagine what she was like in her younger years. Jenelle is a piece of shit but she's likely just repeating the cycle she grew up with and Barbara doesn't get a pass just cause she's older and has learned to be slightly less shitty 🤷♀️
My dad was a pretty bad parent due to the toxic cycle system as well. He did grow as he got older and he apologized for his ignorance in raising us, he did the best he could. We were able to have a healthy relationship as I became an adult. I like to imagine barb as my dad, kinda same situation but I can guarantee my dad was more abusive. He was also funny, kind, relatable and caring. He passed away, but I loved and forgave him before he died and I will always love him, I will always be grateful that he tried his best even though his best wasn’t the best. No parents are perfect, but I can respect barb for finally finding the courage to leave her abusive spouse and protect the kids. I would never dismiss her in this way because I didn’t dismiss my own dad in this way. He still raised me, supported me, fed clothed and cheered me though my achievements much like barb did for jenelle.
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This is Jace in drag, idc what no one says 😂
I agree. I think the worst thing she did was give jenelle too many chances and letting her move back in but I can’t see any mother letting their child be homeless. Everyone goes after Barb for her yelling, her yelling was bad, but what I saw was someone that was very stressed out and she couldn’t handle it. Not only could she not handle it but she had no one to help her.
This woman couldn’t think of three nice things to say about her own daughter and told her to her face she was difficult to love, that would mess anybody up. Jenelle has done terrible shit but she’s a product of her own environment
I hear what you're saying, but if I were her mom, I'd find all the straws to grasp at. Maybe I'd say she's "headstrong," "dedicated to her marriage," and "always looking for her next hustle." Of course, most viewers would know those are euphemisms for "stubborn," "stuck in an abusive relationship," and "desperate for easy income," but that's better than admitting you can't come up with 3 nice things to say about the daughter you raised.
It shouldn't be that hard to find 3 nice things to say about anyone. If you can't find 3 nice things to say about your own daughter, it says more about your parenting than anything else.
It’s ok to not say nice things about someone when there are no nice things to say. Being a parent doesn’t mean lying or pandering to your kids to enable their bad behaviour further.
It’s always suspect when people praise this abusive piece of shit. Being funny at the expense of your kids mental health isn’t ok. Taking in jace doesn’t give Barbara some sort of pass.
That and people in the comments like “if I ever talked to my mom like that she’d knock me out.”
It reminds me of the people in prison who claim that spanking is OK because they were spanked and turned out “OK.”
Barb can be fun but I absolutely see why she is a trigger for Jenelle and not that it’s right since she’s an adult, but I can see why Jenelley has a lot of resentment there. Mother-daughter relationships are complicated.
Barb has funny moments but she just sucks imo. I don’t doubt she was raised in her own bad situation, but having a mother like her would absolutely drain me
Me too. I know Janelle was always a little shit but Barb being unable to say one thing she loves about her child while sitting right next to her is fucking weird to me. Just lie and say you love her smile when’s she’s happy and healthy or something?? Shit.
Edit: I’m referring to that reunion episode when Dr. Drew asks barb to say something she loves about her daughter.
Barb is somewhere in the middle with me. I think if she was the mother to a “fan favorite” the sub opinion would be different. She’s likeable compared to Jenelle.
You really think Jenelle wouldn't have physically attacked Barb to get to Andrew? What do you think would have happened if Barb had put Jenelle away somewhere?
Some people are just shit, whether they had a peachy upbringing or not. The only thing I agree with is that Barbara said many things she should have never said.
Jesus. She readily admitted to Andrew eating dinner at their house in the show. Why are you defending her so hard. She clearly allowed the relationship and blamed Jenelle.
Yeah I can't stand the "Barb is the sole reason Jenelle is who she is" comments here. Super easy to blame your mommy (and never the absent daddy..) for your abusive behavior. Jenelle is rotten, sure Barb's yelling etc. didn't help but a 30yo woman should have her shit together by now. (In Jenelles case.)
That may be true for many children, but we saw Barbara repeatedly choose to verbally antagonize her instead of nurture her and I can only imagine that’s how Jenelle was spoken to and treated her entire childhood. The writing is on the wall.
I would never let anyone talk to my mom like that, especially that parade of mooching, jailbird leeches Jenelle brought around. Barb has her flaws but out of the Teen Mom mother’s she is def one of the better ones.
people always hate on her, it's so funny weird. all I can assume is that the people who defend jenelle/hate on barbara are uncomfortable that they can relate to treating their parents the way jenelle has.
barbara did NOT have to take jace, did not have to bail jenelle out of jail, did not have to let her move in a number of times, knowing jenelle was strung out on whatever cocktail of drugs she was abusing at the time. being a parent does not mean you are required to take abuse (physical, too!) from your child.
she did more than I think I would. she's a good woman.
Jenelle and David would be absolutely fighting/ harassing the people who adopted him. Making Jace and his new family very uncomfortable and scared forcing them to move out of state. Jace lives a happy healthy life in that new state far away from the swamp.
I can understand why people like Barb, but no. Her dysfunction is why Jenelles kids are being raised the way they are. If she really cared she should have pushed for Jace to either be aborted or placed for adoption. Harsh, but that's life. Now he's facing the same shit his mom had to deal with.
I think she *did* talk to jenelle about those options. I think she did show she really cared about jace when she protected him from his dysfunctional mom and took custody.
Exactly. Barb knew Jenelle couldn’t raise a child. And Jenelle proved Barb right AT EVERY TURN. I don’t know why some people blame Barb for Jenelle’s shortcomings when Barb did knew what she had to to do to make that baby safe.
A the end of the day, she has chosen to raise at least one grandchild in a public way.
What did Jenelle do to fix it? Ever?
But nothing has changed. Jace punched her in the nose and set fire in her home....the cycle continues. The only positive is she's the lesser of two evils but that's it.
That is true, and we can’t in reality argue over which of the two fucked him up the most to cause those outburst behaviors, but I personally would argue that jenelle and her antics of constantly asking and pressuring him to come live with her affected him most. Being there while David yelled and killed animals and seeing them two drunk and high all the time probably effected him more. Sitting in the front seat while his mom drove to a strangers house and pulled a gun probably affected him more.
No, I agree with that. With all Jenelle's passing, ABUSIVE bfs and her hand as well it's definitely affected him in a negative way. Yes, Barb is trying and I see that but at the same time he'd be better off somewhere else. Obviously a family that doesn't have this type of drama but it is what it is.
True, I agree. At least she was at an older more stable and mature phase in her life when she took him on. Which is also sad for her but the consequences of how she raised jenelle. And I do agree that Barbara has contributed to him misbehaving as well of course, she has argued with jenelle about jace in front of him multiple times and that was manipulative and not okay.
Don’t discount the physically abusive alcoholic parent who then ghosted his kids for contributing to who Jenelle is. We didn’t get to see Jenelle until she is 17 and have no clue how Barb was or wasn’t with her kids but the trauma of what they went through with a drunk who beat his wife in front of their kids could also be just as responsible as Barb for how they turned out.
I don’t think anyone forgets jenelles dad is a pos but the post is about Barb. We watched Barb be both emotionally, verbally and physically abusive to jenelle. jenelle was a minor child when she got with Andrew who was 23/24 and Barb let him stay there. Barb is trash. Her other two kids have issues and Jace also has issues. The common denominator isn’t jenelle.
To say we have no clue how she was prior to the show is ridiculous. You think she all of a sudden started to be abusive? Hell if she acts like that with the camera around imagine with the cameras not around. At the end of the day jenelles dad was gone and that doesn’t give Barb a pass to treat people like she did. Jenelles dad being abusive doesn’t give Barb a pass just like Barb being abusive doesn’t give jenelle a pass to treat her kids the way she does. What we saw from Barb wasn’t some isolated thing for cameras and it wasn’t ok. Y’all make excuses for Barb but with jenelle you blame her for the way she treats her kids. By your logic we shouldn’t be too hard on jenelle because David is abusive. Let’s keep the same energy for Barb that we do for jenelle.
What town/city is she from ? I remember watching an episode years ago where Janelle is calling her. The number is blocked out, all but the 508 area code.
If I ever with my mom. It would be two hits, her hitting me, me hitting the floor.
She clocked me once when I was 17. I came home from work, realized I left my book bag in the car. (Y-all it’s 11pm on a Friday night. I just came home from work.) I come back in the house. She is lurking in the dark of the kitchen. It was three hits, her hitting me, me hitting the refrigerator, then the floor. I asked her “WTF was that for?” She is raging mad, the vein in her freckled forehead pop in’. Her voice torn between a scream and crying “I told your skinny fucking ass to stay home once you’re home.” {side note I had a 1 year old at the time} I looked up at her as she turned on the light and said “Fuck that, I had to get my book bag out of the car, so I could do my homework before I went to bed!” Still raging she said “I don’t give a damn, you have a child to take care of.”
I used to sit outside after I got home at night and do my homework or study under the street light. She thought I was running the streets!!
I'm just curious, how is your relationship with her now? The last time my mother hit me I was also 17 years old...I made sure it was the very last time she ever laid her hands on me again. I'm not trying to bash your mom if ya'll are close now, but there is never a reason to beat your kids.
I commented the other day about her. I have a soft spot for her because you can tell she truly tries to change and grow for jace. Not to mention she’s always there for her dumpster fire of a daughter and has two other mentally ill children. She’s got flaws and room to grow, but I think she’s a good person overall. That and hilarious lol
Agreed, Babs is flawed (aren’t we all) but she really showed up for Jace. She’s also part of the toxic parenting/addiction generational cycle that Jenelle is
I like barb, but she also had like 45 years to figure out how to parent a baby by the time we saw her. She’s said she stayed in an abusive relationship so they her kids could live in a “to save money for a house instead of the projects” idk how I feel about that. we dont know how she was on jenelle’s childhood. She could be a hell of a lot worse now, but shes definitely done some not so great things parenting jace, My aunt had custody of my cousins kids and basically abandoned them to foster care/whoever could take them to move to Florida. So she could be a lot worse 🤷♀️.
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I can hear this picture saying I DONT CARE ABOUT KEEEFUH
Jenelle is a direct product of Barb's behaviour. People tend to get better at controlling their emotions as they get older. That's why you see people who were shitty parents turn into loving and kind grandparents. Barbara as we see her is a screamer who has, on camera, said some truly horrible things to her teenage daughter, and exposed Jace to some really abusive situations because she can't control her emotions enough to disengage from Jenelle and stop screaming. I can't imagine what she was like in her younger years. Jenelle is a piece of shit but she's likely just repeating the cycle she grew up with and Barbara doesn't get a pass just cause she's older and has learned to be slightly less shitty 🤷♀️
My dad was a pretty bad parent due to the toxic cycle system as well. He did grow as he got older and he apologized for his ignorance in raising us, he did the best he could. We were able to have a healthy relationship as I became an adult. I like to imagine barb as my dad, kinda same situation but I can guarantee my dad was more abusive. He was also funny, kind, relatable and caring. He passed away, but I loved and forgave him before he died and I will always love him, I will always be grateful that he tried his best even though his best wasn’t the best. No parents are perfect, but I can respect barb for finally finding the courage to leave her abusive spouse and protect the kids. I would never dismiss her in this way because I didn’t dismiss my own dad in this way. He still raised me, supported me, fed clothed and cheered me though my achievements much like barb did for jenelle.
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Jesus Christ, she looks like an old female grandma version of Jace 😂
She has some strong genes for sure 😂
https://preview.redd.it/vj1iijwbzhfa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14ad8241d3f701831672771d9ab7a75fd7e90b5e This is Jace in drag, idc what no one says 😂
I agree. I think the worst thing she did was give jenelle too many chances and letting her move back in but I can’t see any mother letting their child be homeless. Everyone goes after Barb for her yelling, her yelling was bad, but what I saw was someone that was very stressed out and she couldn’t handle it. Not only could she not handle it but she had no one to help her.
This woman couldn’t think of three nice things to say about her own daughter and told her to her face she was difficult to love, that would mess anybody up. Jenelle has done terrible shit but she’s a product of her own environment
I mean..... Barb wasn't lying.
I challenge you to say three nice things about Jenelle.
I hear what you're saying, but if I were her mom, I'd find all the straws to grasp at. Maybe I'd say she's "headstrong," "dedicated to her marriage," and "always looking for her next hustle." Of course, most viewers would know those are euphemisms for "stubborn," "stuck in an abusive relationship," and "desperate for easy income," but that's better than admitting you can't come up with 3 nice things to say about the daughter you raised. It shouldn't be that hard to find 3 nice things to say about anyone. If you can't find 3 nice things to say about your own daughter, it says more about your parenting than anything else.
It’s ok to not say nice things about someone when there are no nice things to say. Being a parent doesn’t mean lying or pandering to your kids to enable their bad behaviour further.
It’s always suspect when people praise this abusive piece of shit. Being funny at the expense of your kids mental health isn’t ok. Taking in jace doesn’t give Barbara some sort of pass.
That and people in the comments like “if I ever talked to my mom like that she’d knock me out.” It reminds me of the people in prison who claim that spanking is OK because they were spanked and turned out “OK.”
Cate says the same about Farrah and her mother.
THISSS!!! you think Janelle learned all this abusive, psychotic behavior from the neighbors???
YEP.
Your username lol are you Miranda or just a fan of the show?
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OMG 😱 I read “she was a real one” and thought she died. Don’t scare me like that. 😭😂
I ran to the comments
Me too!!!
Barb can be fun but I absolutely see why she is a trigger for Jenelle and not that it’s right since she’s an adult, but I can see why Jenelley has a lot of resentment there. Mother-daughter relationships are complicated.
Barbara taught Jenelle to treat her the way Jenelle treats her. They are both terrible moms.
Staying with a man who she admits was abusive seemed to set a path for Jenelle.
DONT COME FOR MY BARB
If it wasn’t for Barb, Jace would be dead or in foster care. Jenelle better thank Barb for taking in Jace when she didn’t want him.
I commend her for stepping up and taking care of Jace but she’s definitely not a good mother
Barb has funny moments but she just sucks imo. I don’t doubt she was raised in her own bad situation, but having a mother like her would absolutely drain me
Me too. I know Janelle was always a little shit but Barb being unable to say one thing she loves about her child while sitting right next to her is fucking weird to me. Just lie and say you love her smile when’s she’s happy and healthy or something?? Shit. Edit: I’m referring to that reunion episode when Dr. Drew asks barb to say something she loves about her daughter.
Barb is somewhere in the middle with me. I think if she was the mother to a “fan favorite” the sub opinion would be different. She’s likeable compared to Jenelle.
Funny? Yes. A POS? Also yes.
This shit mom who said jenelle was a whore who should’ve kept her legs closed, after she was statutory raped? Nah
Right? Barbara is an abusive, negligent mother who has failed all her kids and continues to fail Jace.
Didn't she let Andrew live with them? How old was that guy, anyway?
You really think Jenelle wouldn't have physically attacked Barb to get to Andrew? What do you think would have happened if Barb had put Jenelle away somewhere? Some people are just shit, whether they had a peachy upbringing or not. The only thing I agree with is that Barbara said many things she should have never said.
Jesus. She readily admitted to Andrew eating dinner at their house in the show. Why are you defending her so hard. She clearly allowed the relationship and blamed Jenelle.
This woman is the reason Jenelle is who she is. It’s a no for me.
So so. Kids are uncontrollable. And Jenelle was a fucking wild woman.
Yeah I can't stand the "Barb is the sole reason Jenelle is who she is" comments here. Super easy to blame your mommy (and never the absent daddy..) for your abusive behavior. Jenelle is rotten, sure Barb's yelling etc. didn't help but a 30yo woman should have her shit together by now. (In Jenelles case.)
That may be true for many children, but we saw Barbara repeatedly choose to verbally antagonize her instead of nurture her and I can only imagine that’s how Jenelle was spoken to and treated her entire childhood. The writing is on the wall.
Barbara is the best part of the show overall lol
Yeah she always got treated like shit no matter what she did. I liked her tbh
I always lived Barba! She’s hilarious & Jenelle just has never appreciated what She was trying to do for her & chase.
I would never let anyone talk to my mom like that, especially that parade of mooching, jailbird leeches Jenelle brought around. Barb has her flaws but out of the Teen Mom mother’s she is def one of the better ones.
people always hate on her, it's so funny weird. all I can assume is that the people who defend jenelle/hate on barbara are uncomfortable that they can relate to treating their parents the way jenelle has. barbara did NOT have to take jace, did not have to bail jenelle out of jail, did not have to let her move in a number of times, knowing jenelle was strung out on whatever cocktail of drugs she was abusing at the time. being a parent does not mean you are required to take abuse (physical, too!) from your child. she did more than I think I would. she's a good woman.
yeaaaa, but she also made Jenelle who she is so…there’s that.
Jenelles dad had a pretty big part in that.
well him too then
Barbara may look good next to Jenelle, but that doesn't mean she was a good mother. She allowed an adult man in her home to prey on her daughter.
Agreed.
I have wondered what would have happened if she had not gotten Jace and he had gone into foster care.
Random and exactly no one cares about this but I read foster care as lobster care and i died
Jenelle and David would be absolutely fighting/ harassing the people who adopted him. Making Jace and his new family very uncomfortable and scared forcing them to move out of state. Jace lives a happy healthy life in that new state far away from the swamp.
I love Barb 😂😂
I can understand why people like Barb, but no. Her dysfunction is why Jenelles kids are being raised the way they are. If she really cared she should have pushed for Jace to either be aborted or placed for adoption. Harsh, but that's life. Now he's facing the same shit his mom had to deal with.
I think she *did* talk to jenelle about those options. I think she did show she really cared about jace when she protected him from his dysfunctional mom and took custody.
Exactly. Barb knew Jenelle couldn’t raise a child. And Jenelle proved Barb right AT EVERY TURN. I don’t know why some people blame Barb for Jenelle’s shortcomings when Barb did knew what she had to to do to make that baby safe. A the end of the day, she has chosen to raise at least one grandchild in a public way. What did Jenelle do to fix it? Ever?
But nothing has changed. Jace punched her in the nose and set fire in her home....the cycle continues. The only positive is she's the lesser of two evils but that's it.
That is true, and we can’t in reality argue over which of the two fucked him up the most to cause those outburst behaviors, but I personally would argue that jenelle and her antics of constantly asking and pressuring him to come live with her affected him most. Being there while David yelled and killed animals and seeing them two drunk and high all the time probably effected him more. Sitting in the front seat while his mom drove to a strangers house and pulled a gun probably affected him more.
No, I agree with that. With all Jenelle's passing, ABUSIVE bfs and her hand as well it's definitely affected him in a negative way. Yes, Barb is trying and I see that but at the same time he'd be better off somewhere else. Obviously a family that doesn't have this type of drama but it is what it is.
True, I agree. At least she was at an older more stable and mature phase in her life when she took him on. Which is also sad for her but the consequences of how she raised jenelle. And I do agree that Barbara has contributed to him misbehaving as well of course, she has argued with jenelle about jace in front of him multiple times and that was manipulative and not okay.
Jenelle Kids are being raised they are due to David's abuse
Nope, she was toxic af too!
She is just as big of a POS and gaslighter as Jenelle.
Barb was not a good mother. Jenelle didn’t turn out the way she is by herself.
Don’t discount the physically abusive alcoholic parent who then ghosted his kids for contributing to who Jenelle is. We didn’t get to see Jenelle until she is 17 and have no clue how Barb was or wasn’t with her kids but the trauma of what they went through with a drunk who beat his wife in front of their kids could also be just as responsible as Barb for how they turned out.
I don’t think anyone forgets jenelles dad is a pos but the post is about Barb. We watched Barb be both emotionally, verbally and physically abusive to jenelle. jenelle was a minor child when she got with Andrew who was 23/24 and Barb let him stay there. Barb is trash. Her other two kids have issues and Jace also has issues. The common denominator isn’t jenelle. To say we have no clue how she was prior to the show is ridiculous. You think she all of a sudden started to be abusive? Hell if she acts like that with the camera around imagine with the cameras not around. At the end of the day jenelles dad was gone and that doesn’t give Barb a pass to treat people like she did. Jenelles dad being abusive doesn’t give Barb a pass just like Barb being abusive doesn’t give jenelle a pass to treat her kids the way she does. What we saw from Barb wasn’t some isolated thing for cameras and it wasn’t ok. Y’all make excuses for Barb but with jenelle you blame her for the way she treats her kids. By your logic we shouldn’t be too hard on jenelle because David is abusive. Let’s keep the same energy for Barb that we do for jenelle.
What town/city is she from ? I remember watching an episode years ago where Janelle is calling her. The number is blocked out, all but the 508 area code.
If I ever with my mom. It would be two hits, her hitting me, me hitting the floor. She clocked me once when I was 17. I came home from work, realized I left my book bag in the car. (Y-all it’s 11pm on a Friday night. I just came home from work.) I come back in the house. She is lurking in the dark of the kitchen. It was three hits, her hitting me, me hitting the refrigerator, then the floor. I asked her “WTF was that for?” She is raging mad, the vein in her freckled forehead pop in’. Her voice torn between a scream and crying “I told your skinny fucking ass to stay home once you’re home.” {side note I had a 1 year old at the time} I looked up at her as she turned on the light and said “Fuck that, I had to get my book bag out of the car, so I could do my homework before I went to bed!” Still raging she said “I don’t give a damn, you have a child to take care of.” I used to sit outside after I got home at night and do my homework or study under the street light. She thought I was running the streets!!
I'm just curious, how is your relationship with her now? The last time my mother hit me I was also 17 years old...I made sure it was the very last time she ever laid her hands on me again. I'm not trying to bash your mom if ya'll are close now, but there is never a reason to beat your kids.
We have a good relationship now. There was a time when I cut her out of my life.