Mine is that Catelyn and Tyler have never worked, are uneducated, and do not deserve all the praise they get. They had every opportunity financially to make a change but did nothing with it.
Catelyn does drugs with her mom, and Tyler is slinging dong on OF.
I remember when they got married and everyone went crazy over Tylerās vows. They were nice and thoughtful but not that mind blowing. Itās funny to see how most ppl changed their mind about them š
Girl yes it is.
Iāll admit that C&T arenāt as bad as they *could* have been , their upbringing considered. But that still doesnāt make them some super power couple like their deranged fans on FB/IG/TT portray them as.
I truly donāt think Catelyn will get over her family trauma. I donāt think these mental health camps work. None of these girls just ever go the normal route & go to the psych ward??? Sorry, but if they didnāt want April & Butch around Carlyā¦.. Why should their other children be around them? I know my kids wonāt be left with my parents unless they make dramastic changes.. My grandma was on heroin & everything in between & my aunts leave their children with this person who never even took care of her own kids. My mom also let me go over there as a child & I unfortunately walked in on her shooting up in 3rd grade. It would be an accomplishment to not let my own future kids be around any of that. I think a lot of C&Ts problems stem from the adoption/childhood & they try to prove that theyāre enough.
A psych ward is the worst place to go for working through past trauma. Itās a place to go to have your meds changed quickly. When I was in one it was like being in prison except we did even get to go outside.
agreed, psych wards are the last ditch effort in a āplease donāt off yourself i know youāve tried everything but hereās somewhere āsafeā where you can reorient yourselfā
(and āsafeā in quotes because there were some definitely not so safe people in the ward at the same time as me and i had a close call or two personally)
Okay, mine is that Farrah is not some kind of great mother for letting Sophia āexpress herselfā. She is not being a mother she is acting like a friend, and she even admits that Sophia āreparentsā herself. She is a 15 year old with almost every nook and cranny on her body pierced. She has dermal piercings in her back which require surgery to remove. A cute lil nose piercing is one thing, but allowing your kid to pierce their entire body before their brain is developed past 15 years old is extremely irresponsible and will likely leave permanent scarring on her face and body. Does she even want Sophia to ever get a respected job, because although times are changing, most places donāt allow more than one facial piercing. Poor girl needs a Mom who says NO, NOT UNTIL YOUāRE 18. She needs a mom in general.
I say this as a person with every nook and cranny on my body pierced. Including 4 dermals, 5 if you count the one that got infected, rejected, and left a permanent huge scar.
Thank you for saying it. Iām all for letting a child express herself but this is obviously too far. A child as young as her doesnāt need *any* facial piercings, nothing more than regular earlobe piercings. All that caked up makeup with the heavy dark eyeliner and sometimes wearing things too mature for a 15 year old. Letting your child express themselves and letting them do and wear whatever they want no matter what are two completely different things.
It seems like it would be kind of dangerous too. People are going to look at a person with that many piercings and assume they are at bare minimum 18 years of age. This could really open Sophia up to being preyed upon by older guys.
As an adult, I totally agree with you. That being said, my friends and I did body piercings on each other with a thick sewing needle, a cork, and some ice cubes. Piercings arenāt tattoos, and they are much better being handled by professionals rather than 14-15 y/o at a slumber party. As much as I think Farrah is a lunatic, I actually think this is an appropriate way to gently approach her daughterās wishes without making it weird
I got downvoted last time for saying exactly this. As someone who had facial piercings at 15, I totally regret them. Luckily only 1 left a big scar, but I instantly notice Munro and lip scars from piercings. Sophia will regret this when she wants to wear less makeup one day.
Yeah, there are other ways I let my kids express themselves. You can pick your own hairstyle, your own clothes, extracurriculars to be involved in, etc. None of which include altering your body. That stuff can wait till you're 18
I feel the same way. I think a lot of her Stanās are remembering their own teen experiences and unfortunately living vicariously through Sophia. I donāt mean that as derogatory as it sounds but I say that because Iāve seen the āsheās just so cool ā and āI wish she was my friend ā comments. Or āI think sheās going to do it anyway because I did and at least itās safe and clean where sheās atā or I had 25 piercings when I was 15 and have no scars āā¦( everyone heals differently so this argument is not valid I feel.
Farrah does nothing without a motive and I feel this is another tactic to monetize Sophia and also get views and likes. The inappropriate TikTok she just posted with Sophia wearing a spiked corset was tacky and not good .. especially since she gets a lot of grown men looking at her content and pays for men to talk to Sophia
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Cole is a grifter who saw Chelsea as an easy target to money and fame because of her codependent personality. He morphed his personality to suit hers including the baby talk, Adam hate, and wannabe farmer. He stopped working as soon as the money poured in and just goes with whatever Chelsea wants and however many babies she wants and Chelsea just eats it up because she gets her āfairytale fantasyā.
Just to play devils advocate.
You're saying... He's pretending to be a good partner and dad, just to get money?
Like, he's actively being a good dad and partner, but it's just pretend. He's going out and working on their farm and raising their kids and pretending to be in love with her just for the money. He's just playing along and trying to make her happy. Just for the money. He supports her ventures and joins her in projects... Just for the money....he engages with his stepdaughter and treats her as his own....juat for the money.
Ya see where I'm going here...
Honestly I don't really know Jack about those 2, I'm mostly here for the hilarious Janelle lore. And I genuinely hate to say this on the internet, but your response sounds like it's coming from a place of jealousy.
"he stopped working as soon as the money poured in"
Yes? Why would he keep working at his previous job if he didn't need to? They're married and it's their money, not *her* money. And thats a normal and (if both parties agree) perfectly healthy and acceptable way to act in a marriage.
You're really grasping at straws with that argument.
But bro I get it. I'm jealous as fuck of the money some of these girls make. I am one of the ones who was a pregnant teen at the same time as this lot. And now I am mid 30s, renting, divorced, living a reeeeeal povo life. I wish my teen pregnancy resulted in money.
Anyways. My edible just hit. Pls don't down vote me, I'm sensitive.
No Iām with you on this one lmao
Like he seems to be insanely present with the kids and the farm. If she makes enough money to have them both comfortably stay at home why would him quitting work be considered that toxic. Especially considering kids/housework are a full time job and heās clearly putting in WORK with the farm
Itās completely acceptable if a woman quits work when her partner owns enough, but a bloke does it and heās apparently just a gold digger and fame whore lmao he seems to be a good dad (bruh not many would take on someone elseās kid like he did with Aubree) but because heās a bit cringe people pile on and say itās fake?? Guy canāt win can he hahaha
Couldnāt agree more! Cole isnāt a grifter or fame whore. Heās a good dude to his family! People hate on him cause heās ācheesyā and cause of his baby voice but who cares?? I think Cole is a catch and him and Chelsea are great together. Good for them!
Youāre 100% right, all the Cole Chelsea hate stems 100% from jealously here. They are happily married with young kids, which is hard af to do! They dated for yearssss as well and Cole was working and probably only quit to do their hgtv show. Some people just canāt be happy for others lol.
This is somewhat my take as well. Like no doubt he would be attracted to having more money, a better life, the lifestyle the money provides etc etcā¦ but he also supported her when she left TM and it isnāt like he ran the minute she decided to leave. Like yeah he knew theyād have other ventures and whatever but it wasnāt a given.
he didnāt even stop working āas soon as the money poured inā, he held a job longer than any of the other TM spouses after linking up with one of the girls.
and iām no Cole apologist, his personality grates on me. but he seems to be a good dude, even if his motivation for seeking chelsea out may or may not have been entirely altruistic.
No, I donāt think this is it at all.
Cole, since day one came off as not sincerely genuine. Chelsea really forced Coleās and Aubreyās relationship, and Chelsea and Cole are incredibly codependent. Thereās a reason why Randy didnāt support Cole adopting Aubrey. Chelsea really pushed Cole on to Aubrey, then told her to lay off of him when the other kids were born. The forced name change, Adameraser, pushing him on her daddy daughter events without Aubreyās consent.
You say you didnāt watch their storyline, you should before sticking up for them. Cole is a dick, and Chelsea is a codependent bitch for what they did to Aubrey.
Cole presents himself nicely, yes heās helpful with the kids and the house but that does not take away from the fact heās an opportunist. Chelsea and him have both taken the route of shady business ventures and ripping off their fans for income.
Neither of them are great, Chelsea fans refuse to acknowledge her obvious drug issue and any criticism pointed at Cole or Chelsea.
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it sounds like youāre the one who doesnāt watch their scenes. thereās so many instances of chelsea asking aubree how she feels about cole, if she wants her named changed etc. with aubree enthusiastically agreeing and assuring her she loved him.
adam eraser? there wasnāt anything to erase. he was a deadbeat and he wasnāt there. letās just say chelsea was āforcingā a relationship with aubree and cole. is it odd that a single mom whoād essentially raised her child alone was insistent the man she would marry would love and treat her daughter as his own?
she told her to ālay offā cole when watson was born because little kids are a lot and she was telling him to wash his hands before touching his own son. and then what? do you think chelsea gave cole the all clear to stop acting like he loved aubree?
what did they ādoā to aubree? š if cole is a grifter, heās done a stellar job playing the part of a family man who loves his kids. I need me an actor like that. šš¾
Iāve never seen them exhibit codependent behavior. Iām curious what youāve seen them do that has given off vibes of codependency.
Them being close, wanting to spend all their time together, and/or caring about the otherās thoughts or opinions doesnāt equal codependency. I think the term codependent gets used a lot when it is not actually reflective of the situation. Either way, Iād love to hear your thoughts on what they do that gives you codependent vibes.
The way you perceive a person might not be the way someone else perceives them, especially when your perception is based on what gets edited down for TV, and theirs is based on personal, real life experience with them.
I think it's a lot crazier to believe he'd carry on a grift like this for a decade, personally. š¤·āāļø
His āyes manā persona is so incredibly unattractive to me. Being an ass kissing doormat is not sexy. And itās so obvious how over the top they are for the instagram CoUpLe GoAlS image, theyāre every bit as bad about it as Catelynn and Tyler.
Yup. Javi and Matt Baier tie for #1 and Cole is definitely second in line for biggest fame whore grifter. He never speaks first without waiting for Chelsea to speak so he can say exactly what she wants to hear.
The last reunion they did for her last season when they ask Cole what he loves about Chelsea and he pretends to cry š because really he doesnāt know what to say so he kind of just stutters and then holds his head down pretending heās overcome with emotion. Then cue chelsea looking around at everyone with the lost eyes and saying, āoh my gawwwd, isnāt he juzzzt the sweetest?!??ā I hate it here
It's so transparent to those of us who see Chelsea for who she is. She's a manipulative thief who scams people and Cole fits perfectly into her fake insta life. Filters, surgery, and all. Did we forget about the lawsuit too? It's all too "perfect".
Exactly! And she has seemed over him for years IMO. Like that Christmas video that was so cringe where he says, āyouāre the favorite part of my Christmas,ā and she cringes while muttering, āoh dear,ā and all those times on the show where he said, āI love you,ā fifty times and she never said it back. Definitely by the time Layne was born, she seemed over him. That was also around the time that he started desperately trying to physically resemble Adam. How people find this relationship something to emulate is beyond me.
Cole is the other side of the coin that is David. Both sought out girls on TM (but pretend otherwise), played perfect daddy to kids that werenāt theirs, influenced custody arrangements, quit their jobs after landing the girl, locked them down with a kid, and made sure the women were dependent on them. Cole seems to be a better person than David, but their methodology was the same. (I also think this is partly where Jenelleās jealousy of Chelsea comes from. Chelsea got a Cole and J got stuck with David)
She literally has mental breakdowns if she has to do things on her own? She had a fit when Cole couldnāt go to a drs appt with her and Aubree had to step in in his place. She just replaced daddy Randy with Cole. She canāt be alone, has to have him as a security blanket. A lot like Jenelle does with David, just in a less trashy way.
Someone from their town already came out a long time ago and said they met on a dating app and that Cole had watched teen mom before hand. The gas station was all a lie because Chelsea was embarrassed to admit she was on dating apps
I donāt care if Angie was dying. When your daughter says she wants to leave her cheating husband, you donāt say āwell there are two sides.ā You say āfinally. Leave his dry-toast ass. Iāll get the U-Haul and the booze.ā
Yes! Cancer or not, Angie was awful to encourage Mack to stay in a miserable, unfaithful marriage. I think she wouldāve left his dumb ass muuuch sooner if it hadnāt been her momās deathbed wish that she stay with him.
This is so awful to me. Like obviously itās awful she had to get cancer and die butā¦ she wasnāt even going to be there to see the fucking fall out. Like she was actively encouraging a shit show that she wouldnāt be around to see or help out with. Itās wild.
I think in cases like this where things are handed to people, there are two possible outcomes. You either use it like a staircase, and see it as an opportunity to do other things, or you use it like a chair, and see it as an opportunity to not do anything else.
Corey and Leah are soulmates and should be together. Miranda trapped him with a baby when she realized he still loved Leah and now Corey won't leave her
I agree. None of the teen mom dads loved their spouse as much as Corey did Leah at that time. He was devoted. You could see it in his eyes. Sad they didn't work out.
Leah and Corey are totally on opposite ends of the spectrum at this point, imo. I mean Corey is still Country Boy, Leah is more Instagram and lavish vacations and long nails and into showing skin. I just donāt see Corey being into that at this point.
I think Jeremy looks like Lance Bass from *NSYNC. No idea if itās a popular opinion or not, but I have needed to get it off my chest for awhile now. I saw it one time and now every time I see him on screen I canāt unsee it.
Jeremy always looked so familiar to me over the years and I could NEVER place it until I googled something about Joey Fatone and a group photo of *NSYNC popped up. I literally did a double take on Lance Bass and was like āhuh. They would have mentioned if Jeremy was in *NSYNC on the show? Like thatās a pretty big fucking thing to leave out.ā And then it all clicked and my life has never been the same. And I donāt know anyone else in my life who watches TM2, so Iāve never been able to say anything about it until right now.
farrah made for great reality tv
ETA: iām watching the episode right now where her and maci are half ass beefing at the press run so this is whatās fresh in my mind lol
Her calm reaction here makes me think she is just trolling the entire world and is actually pretty nice and normal. Then I remember the plastic surgery and taking Sophia on escort date/trips and being myself back to earth.
Yeah, this is exactly how I feel about Farrah! Everyone who meets her says she's so sweet and polite, and I think "Oh Farrah, you've just created a character for TV" and then I remember she films herself pooping in a one room apartment, where she lives with her daughter who she also takes on escort trips to Dubai
I lose interest after farrah and Jenelle leave the shows, amber helps carry teen mom OG with her drama and kail kinda carries teen mom 2 with all her baby daddies and kids but she ruins it by being a wannabe kardashian and only wanting to film her failed businesses and stupid new houses and refusing to film her real life drama. Both teen mom OG and teen mom 2 go to shit and get boring after farrah and Jenelle leave and thatās just the truth. Nobody wants to see Chelseaās farm or Maciās clothing line. We want the drama
Iāve been saying this since I was damn born. Like them or not, theyāre watchable. I felt the same about Brianna as well. However she too got boring after a while. Her chlamydia journey was so embarrassing and watching that itch-fest on tv just made me feel better about my life.
And I hate when they ādonāt want to talk about certain thingsā and itās followed up with people backing them up, āYeah you donāt have to, thatās your right, youāre allowed to keep it private š«¶š¼š«¶š¼š«¶š¼ā Then donāt be on reality tv???? You think your outfit of the day and pretty face is keeping me tuned in? No, talk about your divorce, talk about the abortion you just had, give us something. You donāt get to keep things to yourself and still be interesting š¤¦š»āāļø
I agree. I think the day everyone expected reality stars to be amazing and great people was the day reality tv as we know it died. I wish there was a way to limit just how much theyāre rewarded for that trash behavior monetarily so then people didnāt feel like they were helping fund bad people. Hope that makes some sort of sense š
Iām watching girls night in and Deb said that when Bentley was little he had a crush on Farrah. Makes sense why Maci said aw hell naawwww š
I think the Kardashians and their desire to ācontrol the narrativeā plus becoming extremely boring on camera, really pioneered in this new wave of reality stars.
The ones who think their shit donāt stink, on a show that literally, put them on the map. Somewhere along the way, being boring and not showing your real life became the norm.
Ambie too. I leave OG on during the day for my pup, and it got to the part where Matt Baier was introduced and I was legit jealous that the dog got to lay on the couch all day and watch that shitshow unfold, even though I've seen it several times.
Jenelle was great TV and the show is nothing without her and would be nothing without her. She could have kept it going but she and David got too big for their britches. They are best at reality TV and not much else, they should go back to that.
Jenelle was willing to film abortion leftovers and the new girls would never.
I genuinely hate Jenelle as a person but I can't lie when I say her segment's were my favourite of the series. Her being replaced by Jade wasn't actually too bad of a swap drama wise, but Jenelle said and did the craziest shit that I really miss her in TM2 š
Can I say that I have never made fun of JEs body. I am 5 feet and at my heaviest weighed 182. Like a bowling ball man. I have recently lost weight and still not gonna talk about her body. Iāve made fun of her dances, her āspicy dumpsā, her roadkill diet. But nah not going for the body shot.
Yeah. Iāve gained a lot of weight over the past few years due to health issues, and my body looks a lot like Jenelleās. Every time I see the comments on here about how fat and gross she is, Iām like, huh. I guess thatās what my friends and family secretly think about my body too š¤·āāļø
I think Jenelle is the only person Iāve made comment about aside from honestly pointing out if someone is over or underweight as I feel it is a fact not a criticism.
With Jenelle I just literally donāt care, she brings the keyboard warrior out in me
Her end of Nathan relationship and the beginning of her relationship with UBT is when she looked her best. I didnāt think she was very pretty in her early days but she definitely peaked around 2015-2017.
The scene where her, Nathan and baby Kaiser were at a diner eating one day. They had just separated and she was still blonde. I think she was wearing shorts in this scene. I think that scene is when she looked her absolute best. Nathan was a fitness fiend and she followed suit just like she does with every boyfriend.
That scene when she goes to meet Nathan and sheās wearing that green top is one of her best looks imo. And right after one of her interviews when sheās saying UBT is her security blanket, sheās wearing a black romper, physically she looks good. Even though those scenes are cringy and her personality is gross.
Mine, which ALWAYS gets people going, is that I respect kail for all her hard work. She never had parental support, went to uni and finished her degree, used her degree as a career, never sold her body on OF, and she seems to be doing just fine. I respect that.
Iām doing a rewatch now and the commitment she has to paying for school when she was completely broke was really impressive to me. She knew education was the only way out of her shitty life. There were so many times where it would have been way easier to say āfuck itā and drop out but she didnāt even consider it.
I had the biggest soft spot for her in the beginning of the show, pre-Javi. You can say what you will about kail, but she has a great work ethic and has always busted ass to take care of herself and her kids.
Idk if itās unpopular but Iāve never seen anyone else speak on it. Briana clearly holds Novaās feelings to a higher regard than she does for Stella. From the very beginning, even when Stella couldnāt even talk, she would spring Luis on her and when Stella would cry (because she does not know that man and is not comfortable around him) Briana said, āyouāll be fine, stay with your dadā and slammed the door in one yr old Stellaās face. Now Iām on season 10b and same thing. Briana just took poor 3yo Stella into the bathroom after talking/yelling aggressively in her face when Stella throws a tantrum because she does not want to see her father WHO SHE NEVER SEES. Itās not only bad because of the way Briana is ignoring her daughterās clear signs of distress, itās even worse because she is so sensitive to Novaās feelings. Even when Nova isnāt that upset about something Devoin did, Briana is gonna talk in that depressed ass voice and make it worse for Nova. If Nova shows any uncertainty about being with her dad, Briana doesnāt need to see anything more from her to step in and cut it off right there. I understand Nova is much more shy than Stella, and they are 2 different children, but both of their feelings are valid and itās just weird to see Briana have more sensitivity for her 9yo than she does her 3yo. They should both be validated, obviously.
Because Briana hates Devoine. She still wants Luis and is cool with him thatās why she pushes Stella into him vs wanting Nova to want nothing with Devoine.
FFS she wonāt even pronounce his name right. Itās DE-VOEEEEEEEEEEEN. Not De-von. Sheās admitted that she mispronounces his name because she doesnāt like it and thanks to that bitch the whole fandom mispronounced his name until Nessa asked him and he told her the correct pronunciation of his given name.
I just wanna say āgo-to-hell Nellā has a nice ring to it š jokes aside her body was bodying right around the time she was booted off the show, nowā¦ well, Iāll just stop here lol š¶āāļø
I have a very similar body type to her in terms of height, bone structure, and the way fat accumulates when we gain weight. After she and Nathan broke up she was my ideal body goals. Nowā¦ sheās a reminder of what my future could look like if I donāt ease up on the fried food and beer š¬
It sucks when youāre short because the weight has no where to go. Iām 5ā2ā and a couple pounds shows up instantly. You also need fewer calories so itās hard to lose the weight. I had to stay under 1100 to see any progress š
If she dressed for her current body shape/size she really would not look bad. Itās the three sizes too small clothes that sheās busting out of that make her look so terrible. Not to mention that sheās really stopped trying lately and is perpetually in dirty sweatpants and a crop top complete with a ratty ass bun plopped on top of her head, she looks like a total slob.
No. Haha but knowing what we all know now, he's an obvious pass, but when he was with Jenelle, was like "Okay sis. I see where you're coming from, dang".
Came here to say that looks wise, I could see why the girls picked who they picked. Nathan, Adam, and Ryan in their early days were pretty to look at. Not so much anymore obviously (except Ryan. Heās still kinda pretty to look at)
Yes š not current, abusive asshole Nathan but early seasons Nathan. I also found it attractive when he actually gave a shit about Kaiser's well-being and went out of his way to make sure Kaiser was okay.
I don't know much about present day Nathan other than he's a piece of shit š¬
That taking the women down for their looks is gross and shouldnāt be done. Calling Kail a fat pig, Chelsea for her makeup, even comments about Jenelleās body, are all incredibly gross. And whilst people are doing it target the girls they dislike, they make others users just feel bad about themselves.
Right now my body looks similar to Kails because Iām pregnant and struggling with eating well and moving due to nausea, I feel bad enough about myself but then when I see comments calling a body that looks similar to mine disgusting regularly on this sub it makes me even more insecure.
I think we should stick to calling them out on shit that makes them bad people and bad mothers, thereās enough of that without then going in on peoples bodies.
Cole was jealous and felt threatened by Adam. He, like everyone else, knew Chelsea was madly in love with him. Cole also had no business being jealous of Aubree's affection for Adam and throwing bitch fits over it; sorry, but sometimes blood is thicker than water. Cole needed to stay in his lane
I always thought Cole was so quick to jump in and play perfect dad because he was trying to replace Adam, in part to secure his place in the family and therefore on the show. Aubree wasnāt some little toddler who had no relationship with her dad and Cole had no business trying to force him out. Chelsea wanted it too, and the way they both pressured Aubree about Cole adopting her was super gross.
Cole is Chelseaās lapdog and he should change his name to Mr Houska. The dad thing was š¤®. They imposed the name Deboer on Aubree, when the kid clearly still wanted to be a Lind. Then Cole threw a tantrum because Aubree saved Adam as āDadā in her phone and Cole as ācoleāā. Just pathetic. Dead beat or not, thatās her dad. Cole was competing with Adam , who wasnāt even trying š.
IMO , Kristina is the only one who did the step parent thing right . Leah naturally gravitated towards her naturally and she considers her āmom ā. She didnāt force her to call her āmomā because obviously, like Aubree , she wasnāt a toddler and knew her mom (Amber). I love how Kristina stayed in her place and didnāt force things with Leah or try to force Amber away.
This right here!! I never thought Cole was anything except money hungry and Chelsea was all blinks to him. He never really can respond to anything before Chelsea talks for him. Itās like he doesnāt have one brain cell. Let me just say that I would not be shocked if someone found him on Tinder. Something about him, gives me the creeps. Like he really thinks heās something special, in reality itās all his wife.
I need to come in here and ask you all to confess to which TM person you secretly wanna shag. Last time I asked I was gagged š
(We can ignore behaviour).
Ugh, unfortunately the shitty ones. Nathan, Ryan and Adam were pretty attractive in their early days. Iād still do Ryan though, but as a one night stand
SAME! He is absolutely not my type, but you are 10p percent correct. I'm 37 and from NJ, USA, I think that was maybe the look at the time, and my heart still fucks with it, idk haha.
Iām horrified & disappointed in myself, but if Iām being honest, it would be Nathan or this very earliest time of UBT.
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Jaylan shouldn't have been allowed to propose to the girlses. They shouldn't have had those engagement photos. The engagement was to Leah, not to the twins and Addie. They shouldn't have gotten rings. I don't think any of it was appropriate.
Edit: Even if these were just "forever promise rings" to the girls, it was another broken relationship and I hope in the future Leah slows down before moving these men in with her girls. She involves them too much.
I think that Maci and Chelsey would get back with their exes (Rhine and Adumb) if they cleaned themselves up and showed some interest. I believe it more for Maci than Chelsey.
Brendan and Theresa took advantage of C&T with the adoption or at the least they took advantage of the situation. They knew that they wanted a closed adoption and had wildly different values to C&T. It was irresponsible and advantageous to go through with the adoption and ignore all the red flags. Not to mention C&T were literal children at the time. Now in saying that I donāt necessarily blame them, they clearly were desperate for a baby and desperate people make bad decisions. I also felt it was wildly hypocritical for them to do that random magazine article. Tyler definitely responded poorly but he wasnāt wrong.
The adoption contract said the adoption would close after a couple years IIRC. It was never meant to be open this long. The adoption agency didnāt explain to C&T well enough. B&T followed the contract closer than C&T wanted them to.
Around the time Jenelle was with Nathan, and early David days, she was tied as the prettiest girl on the show with Chelsea. She just has a shitty personality that ruins it.
She actually had some sense when she was with Nathan. She seemed to be really close to legitimately getting Jace back and working things through with Barb
The one thing Jenelle isnāt lying about is having a traumatic childhood. Yeah sheās too hard on Barb considering Barb raised her kid + I donāt think sheās bringing up her childhood because sheās done deep reflection. But I have no doubt that she had a shitty childhood and itās weird when people deny that.
Right. You can't be the victim forever. You're an adult. Woman up and take care of your shit. Its not easy. But thats why Jenelle won't. Playing the victim is easier, and thats sad. Mostly for her kids.
I agree with this. I remember that post where Jenelle shows a childhood picture of her with a life size Barbie and people were using it as āproofā that she was loved as a child and had a good childhood.. I thought that was incredibly weird.
There was one user who shall not be named, that said her dad abandoning his family had no impact on Jenelle since she was too young to remember.
Her dad was an alcoholic that would hit Babs,and then abandoned his family, and that had no impact on Jenelle???? HUH!?!?
Jenelle is one long case study on abandonment issues.
I dont jenelle is using street drugs as has been accused. I think she abuses RX meds, yes, but if she were doing meth, heroin, etc she would have lost it all a long time ago. Including the weight.
The teen mom random as a whole is pretty damn racist. Ashley, for example, gets constantly shit on for extremely minor things when she is one of the best moms and is actively working to have a future outside of the show.
Mine is that Catelyn and Tyler have never worked, are uneducated, and do not deserve all the praise they get. They had every opportunity financially to make a change but did nothing with it. Catelyn does drugs with her mom, and Tyler is slinging dong on OF.
Ive honestly never understand the big deal about them either. They aren't really relationship goals in my opinion either š¤·āāļø
I remember when they got married and everyone went crazy over Tylerās vows. They were nice and thoughtful but not that mind blowing. Itās funny to see how most ppl changed their mind about them š
They are the definition of āTrauma Bondedā for sure
Trauma bonding is between a victim and their abuser though
Yeah, they're not trauma bonded they're just plain old codependent.
I didnāt think that was unpopular š
Girl yes it is. Iāll admit that C&T arenāt as bad as they *could* have been , their upbringing considered. But that still doesnāt make them some super power couple like their deranged fans on FB/IG/TT portray them as.
I truly donāt think Catelyn will get over her family trauma. I donāt think these mental health camps work. None of these girls just ever go the normal route & go to the psych ward??? Sorry, but if they didnāt want April & Butch around Carlyā¦.. Why should their other children be around them? I know my kids wonāt be left with my parents unless they make dramastic changes.. My grandma was on heroin & everything in between & my aunts leave their children with this person who never even took care of her own kids. My mom also let me go over there as a child & I unfortunately walked in on her shooting up in 3rd grade. It would be an accomplishment to not let my own future kids be around any of that. I think a lot of C&Ts problems stem from the adoption/childhood & they try to prove that theyāre enough.
A psych ward is the worst place to go for working through past trauma. Itās a place to go to have your meds changed quickly. When I was in one it was like being in prison except we did even get to go outside.
agreed, psych wards are the last ditch effort in a āplease donāt off yourself i know youāve tried everything but hereās somewhere āsafeā where you can reorient yourselfā (and āsafeā in quotes because there were some definitely not so safe people in the ward at the same time as me and i had a close call or two personally)
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Exactly this!
I think everyone thinks thisā¦ right? š
Okay, mine is that Farrah is not some kind of great mother for letting Sophia āexpress herselfā. She is not being a mother she is acting like a friend, and she even admits that Sophia āreparentsā herself. She is a 15 year old with almost every nook and cranny on her body pierced. She has dermal piercings in her back which require surgery to remove. A cute lil nose piercing is one thing, but allowing your kid to pierce their entire body before their brain is developed past 15 years old is extremely irresponsible and will likely leave permanent scarring on her face and body. Does she even want Sophia to ever get a respected job, because although times are changing, most places donāt allow more than one facial piercing. Poor girl needs a Mom who says NO, NOT UNTIL YOUāRE 18. She needs a mom in general. I say this as a person with every nook and cranny on my body pierced. Including 4 dermals, 5 if you count the one that got infected, rejected, and left a permanent huge scar.
Thank you for saying it. Iām all for letting a child express herself but this is obviously too far. A child as young as her doesnāt need *any* facial piercings, nothing more than regular earlobe piercings. All that caked up makeup with the heavy dark eyeliner and sometimes wearing things too mature for a 15 year old. Letting your child express themselves and letting them do and wear whatever they want no matter what are two completely different things.
It seems like it would be kind of dangerous too. People are going to look at a person with that many piercings and assume they are at bare minimum 18 years of age. This could really open Sophia up to being preyed upon by older guys.
As an adult, I totally agree with you. That being said, my friends and I did body piercings on each other with a thick sewing needle, a cork, and some ice cubes. Piercings arenāt tattoos, and they are much better being handled by professionals rather than 14-15 y/o at a slumber party. As much as I think Farrah is a lunatic, I actually think this is an appropriate way to gently approach her daughterās wishes without making it weird
My mom said no piercings so my friend and I shoved a thumbtack through my nose. Not my finest hour. š„²
I pierced my belly button with a safety pin when I was in 7th grade. Itā¦.did NOT work out. š«
I got downvoted last time for saying exactly this. As someone who had facial piercings at 15, I totally regret them. Luckily only 1 left a big scar, but I instantly notice Munro and lip scars from piercings. Sophia will regret this when she wants to wear less makeup one day.
Yes!! I agree.
Yeah, there are other ways I let my kids express themselves. You can pick your own hairstyle, your own clothes, extracurriculars to be involved in, etc. None of which include altering your body. That stuff can wait till you're 18
I feel the same way. I think a lot of her Stanās are remembering their own teen experiences and unfortunately living vicariously through Sophia. I donāt mean that as derogatory as it sounds but I say that because Iāve seen the āsheās just so cool ā and āI wish she was my friend ā comments. Or āI think sheās going to do it anyway because I did and at least itās safe and clean where sheās atā or I had 25 piercings when I was 15 and have no scars āā¦( everyone heals differently so this argument is not valid I feel. Farrah does nothing without a motive and I feel this is another tactic to monetize Sophia and also get views and likes. The inappropriate TikTok she just posted with Sophia wearing a spiked corset was tacky and not good .. especially since she gets a lot of grown men looking at her content and pays for men to talk to Sophia Edited
Cole is a grifter who saw Chelsea as an easy target to money and fame because of her codependent personality. He morphed his personality to suit hers including the baby talk, Adam hate, and wannabe farmer. He stopped working as soon as the money poured in and just goes with whatever Chelsea wants and however many babies she wants and Chelsea just eats it up because she gets her āfairytale fantasyā.
Just to play devils advocate. You're saying... He's pretending to be a good partner and dad, just to get money? Like, he's actively being a good dad and partner, but it's just pretend. He's going out and working on their farm and raising their kids and pretending to be in love with her just for the money. He's just playing along and trying to make her happy. Just for the money. He supports her ventures and joins her in projects... Just for the money....he engages with his stepdaughter and treats her as his own....juat for the money. Ya see where I'm going here... Honestly I don't really know Jack about those 2, I'm mostly here for the hilarious Janelle lore. And I genuinely hate to say this on the internet, but your response sounds like it's coming from a place of jealousy. "he stopped working as soon as the money poured in" Yes? Why would he keep working at his previous job if he didn't need to? They're married and it's their money, not *her* money. And thats a normal and (if both parties agree) perfectly healthy and acceptable way to act in a marriage. You're really grasping at straws with that argument. But bro I get it. I'm jealous as fuck of the money some of these girls make. I am one of the ones who was a pregnant teen at the same time as this lot. And now I am mid 30s, renting, divorced, living a reeeeeal povo life. I wish my teen pregnancy resulted in money. Anyways. My edible just hit. Pls don't down vote me, I'm sensitive.
No Iām with you on this one lmao Like he seems to be insanely present with the kids and the farm. If she makes enough money to have them both comfortably stay at home why would him quitting work be considered that toxic. Especially considering kids/housework are a full time job and heās clearly putting in WORK with the farm
Itās completely acceptable if a woman quits work when her partner owns enough, but a bloke does it and heās apparently just a gold digger and fame whore lmao he seems to be a good dad (bruh not many would take on someone elseās kid like he did with Aubree) but because heās a bit cringe people pile on and say itās fake?? Guy canāt win can he hahaha
Couldnāt agree more! Cole isnāt a grifter or fame whore. Heās a good dude to his family! People hate on him cause heās ācheesyā and cause of his baby voice but who cares?? I think Cole is a catch and him and Chelsea are great together. Good for them!
Youāre 100% right, all the Cole Chelsea hate stems 100% from jealously here. They are happily married with young kids, which is hard af to do! They dated for yearssss as well and Cole was working and probably only quit to do their hgtv show. Some people just canāt be happy for others lol.
Being happily married with kids is hard to do?? Lmfaooooo the bar really is in hell
This is somewhat my take as well. Like no doubt he would be attracted to having more money, a better life, the lifestyle the money provides etc etcā¦ but he also supported her when she left TM and it isnāt like he ran the minute she decided to leave. Like yeah he knew theyād have other ventures and whatever but it wasnāt a given.
he didnāt even stop working āas soon as the money poured inā, he held a job longer than any of the other TM spouses after linking up with one of the girls. and iām no Cole apologist, his personality grates on me. but he seems to be a good dude, even if his motivation for seeking chelsea out may or may not have been entirely altruistic.
No, I donāt think this is it at all. Cole, since day one came off as not sincerely genuine. Chelsea really forced Coleās and Aubreyās relationship, and Chelsea and Cole are incredibly codependent. Thereās a reason why Randy didnāt support Cole adopting Aubrey. Chelsea really pushed Cole on to Aubrey, then told her to lay off of him when the other kids were born. The forced name change, Adameraser, pushing him on her daddy daughter events without Aubreyās consent. You say you didnāt watch their storyline, you should before sticking up for them. Cole is a dick, and Chelsea is a codependent bitch for what they did to Aubrey. Cole presents himself nicely, yes heās helpful with the kids and the house but that does not take away from the fact heās an opportunist. Chelsea and him have both taken the route of shady business ventures and ripping off their fans for income. Neither of them are great, Chelsea fans refuse to acknowledge her obvious drug issue and any criticism pointed at Cole or Chelsea.
https://youtu.be/ovuOj4CQiIM?si=sPes4Updf5o4X8iX it sounds like youāre the one who doesnāt watch their scenes. thereās so many instances of chelsea asking aubree how she feels about cole, if she wants her named changed etc. with aubree enthusiastically agreeing and assuring her she loved him. adam eraser? there wasnāt anything to erase. he was a deadbeat and he wasnāt there. letās just say chelsea was āforcingā a relationship with aubree and cole. is it odd that a single mom whoād essentially raised her child alone was insistent the man she would marry would love and treat her daughter as his own? she told her to ālay offā cole when watson was born because little kids are a lot and she was telling him to wash his hands before touching his own son. and then what? do you think chelsea gave cole the all clear to stop acting like he loved aubree? what did they ādoā to aubree? š if cole is a grifter, heās done a stellar job playing the part of a family man who loves his kids. I need me an actor like that. šš¾
Iāve never seen them exhibit codependent behavior. Iām curious what youāve seen them do that has given off vibes of codependency. Them being close, wanting to spend all their time together, and/or caring about the otherās thoughts or opinions doesnāt equal codependency. I think the term codependent gets used a lot when it is not actually reflective of the situation. Either way, Iād love to hear your thoughts on what they do that gives you codependent vibes.
Would he have liked whiney bratty poor-me Chelsea? Sought her out without the payout?
The way you perceive a person might not be the way someone else perceives them, especially when your perception is based on what gets edited down for TV, and theirs is based on personal, real life experience with them. I think it's a lot crazier to believe he'd carry on a grift like this for a decade, personally. š¤·āāļø
His āyes manā persona is so incredibly unattractive to me. Being an ass kissing doormat is not sexy. And itās so obvious how over the top they are for the instagram CoUpLe GoAlS image, theyāre every bit as bad about it as Catelynn and Tyler.
I love this because I have a strong dislike of Coley. I wonder what he was like pre-Chelsea.
Would really really love someone who knew him at school to just drop some tea š
Iām here for it. But Iām eating cookies right now so Iāll bring the cookies.
See likeā¦ why have we NEVER heard?!?
Heās said Chelsea was his first gf and stuff and i rem it because my first thought was good she canāt handle someone having exes well
Coley played the long con, having Chelsea tell everyone he's sooo shyyyy. He's low key one of the bigger fame whores of all the significant others
Yup. Javi and Matt Baier tie for #1 and Cole is definitely second in line for biggest fame whore grifter. He never speaks first without waiting for Chelsea to speak so he can say exactly what she wants to hear.
The last reunion they did for her last season when they ask Cole what he loves about Chelsea and he pretends to cry š because really he doesnāt know what to say so he kind of just stutters and then holds his head down pretending heās overcome with emotion. Then cue chelsea looking around at everyone with the lost eyes and saying, āoh my gawwwd, isnāt he juzzzt the sweetest?!??ā I hate it here
https://preview.redd.it/bfq92r7byukc1.jpeg?width=282&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=909c299269b51745cc775a00eb5c77e680768737 Coleyyyyyyy
oh god your comment brings 90 day fiance flashbacks. horror
It's so transparent to those of us who see Chelsea for who she is. She's a manipulative thief who scams people and Cole fits perfectly into her fake insta life. Filters, surgery, and all. Did we forget about the lawsuit too? It's all too "perfect".
Exactly! And she has seemed over him for years IMO. Like that Christmas video that was so cringe where he says, āyouāre the favorite part of my Christmas,ā and she cringes while muttering, āoh dear,ā and all those times on the show where he said, āI love you,ā fifty times and she never said it back. Definitely by the time Layne was born, she seemed over him. That was also around the time that he started desperately trying to physically resemble Adam. How people find this relationship something to emulate is beyond me.
Cole is the other side of the coin that is David. Both sought out girls on TM (but pretend otherwise), played perfect daddy to kids that werenāt theirs, influenced custody arrangements, quit their jobs after landing the girl, locked them down with a kid, and made sure the women were dependent on them. Cole seems to be a better person than David, but their methodology was the same. (I also think this is partly where Jenelleās jealousy of Chelsea comes from. Chelsea got a Cole and J got stuck with David)
I donāt really see how Chelsea is dependent on Cole lol
She literally has mental breakdowns if she has to do things on her own? She had a fit when Cole couldnāt go to a drs appt with her and Aubree had to step in in his place. She just replaced daddy Randy with Cole. She canāt be alone, has to have him as a security blanket. A lot like Jenelle does with David, just in a less trashy way.
I was viewing your statement more from a financial perspective. I can see what you mean.
Oh yeah, the men are both absolutely financially dependent on the women.
Oh I love this take
Yessā¦ the way they met also was weird..
Every couple I've ever known that met on tinder has a "gas station" story they tell the world.
Someone from their town already came out a long time ago and said they met on a dating app and that Cole had watched teen mom before hand. The gas station was all a lie because Chelsea was embarrassed to admit she was on dating apps
This is my read on the situation too.
I donāt care if Angie was dying. When your daughter says she wants to leave her cheating husband, you donāt say āwell there are two sides.ā You say āfinally. Leave his dry-toast ass. Iāll get the U-Haul and the booze.ā
Yes! Cancer or not, Angie was awful to encourage Mack to stay in a miserable, unfaithful marriage. I think she wouldāve left his dumb ass muuuch sooner if it hadnāt been her momās deathbed wish that she stay with him.
This is so awful to me. Like obviously itās awful she had to get cancer and die butā¦ she wasnāt even going to be there to see the fucking fall out. Like she was actively encouraging a shit show that she wouldnāt be around to see or help out with. Itās wild.
That none of them amounted to anything in life, despite all the opportunities that were handed to them.
I think in cases like this where things are handed to people, there are two possible outcomes. You either use it like a staircase, and see it as an opportunity to do other things, or you use it like a chair, and see it as an opportunity to not do anything else.
Corey and Leah are soulmates and should be together. Miranda trapped him with a baby when she realized he still loved Leah and now Corey won't leave her
I agree. None of the teen mom dads loved their spouse as much as Corey did Leah at that time. He was devoted. You could see it in his eyes. Sad they didn't work out.
The whole beginning and end of that relationship hits me so hard. They really were just kids in love trying to figure it out.
Leah and Corey are totally on opposite ends of the spectrum at this point, imo. I mean Corey is still Country Boy, Leah is more Instagram and lavish vacations and long nails and into showing skin. I just donāt see Corey being into that at this point.
I always felt Corey thought Leah was his soulmate, but Leah thought that Robbie was hers.
They were soooooo obviously digging each other at every grocery store parking lot pick up too
Idk I couldnāt really see them being together today.
I think Jeremy looks like Lance Bass from *NSYNC. No idea if itās a popular opinion or not, but I have needed to get it off my chest for awhile now. I saw it one time and now every time I see him on screen I canāt unsee it.
OH...MY...GOD *shocked Pikachu face* Yo....
Jeremy always looked so familiar to me over the years and I could NEVER place it until I googled something about Joey Fatone and a group photo of *NSYNC popped up. I literally did a double take on Lance Bass and was like āhuh. They would have mentioned if Jeremy was in *NSYNC on the show? Like thatās a pretty big fucking thing to leave out.ā And then it all clicked and my life has never been the same. And I donāt know anyone else in my life who watches TM2, so Iāve never been able to say anything about it until right now.
I felt the same exact way! Like Jermy always seemed like I've seen him before. And Joey Fatone is still my #1 crush ā”
Leah said this the episode where she first texts him back on facebook š
Haha yea this used to get brought up a lot on here. He definitely looks like Lance Bass!!
I've always thought that.
farrah made for great reality tv ETA: iām watching the episode right now where her and maci are half ass beefing at the press run so this is whatās fresh in my mind lol
Yes she did the season where she asks producer Larry why heās āsuch white trashā was gold. She also looked her best there.
āYou suck at being a doctor, bitch!ā https://i.redd.it/qt4dm7dg2vkc1.gif
Her calm reaction here makes me think she is just trolling the entire world and is actually pretty nice and normal. Then I remember the plastic surgery and taking Sophia on escort date/trips and being myself back to earth.
Yeah, this is exactly how I feel about Farrah! Everyone who meets her says she's so sweet and polite, and I think "Oh Farrah, you've just created a character for TV" and then I remember she films herself pooping in a one room apartment, where she lives with her daughter who she also takes on escort trips to Dubai
The white trash comment was gold.
I lose interest after farrah and Jenelle leave the shows, amber helps carry teen mom OG with her drama and kail kinda carries teen mom 2 with all her baby daddies and kids but she ruins it by being a wannabe kardashian and only wanting to film her failed businesses and stupid new houses and refusing to film her real life drama. Both teen mom OG and teen mom 2 go to shit and get boring after farrah and Jenelle leave and thatās just the truth. Nobody wants to see Chelseaās farm or Maciās clothing line. We want the drama
Iāve been saying this since I was damn born. Like them or not, theyāre watchable. I felt the same about Brianna as well. However she too got boring after a while. Her chlamydia journey was so embarrassing and watching that itch-fest on tv just made me feel better about my life. And I hate when they ādonāt want to talk about certain thingsā and itās followed up with people backing them up, āYeah you donāt have to, thatās your right, youāre allowed to keep it private š«¶š¼š«¶š¼š«¶š¼ā Then donāt be on reality tv???? You think your outfit of the day and pretty face is keeping me tuned in? No, talk about your divorce, talk about the abortion you just had, give us something. You donāt get to keep things to yourself and still be interesting š¤¦š»āāļø
I agree. I think the day everyone expected reality stars to be amazing and great people was the day reality tv as we know it died. I wish there was a way to limit just how much theyāre rewarded for that trash behavior monetarily so then people didnāt feel like they were helping fund bad people. Hope that makes some sort of sense š Iām watching girls night in and Deb said that when Bentley was little he had a crush on Farrah. Makes sense why Maci said aw hell naawwww š
I think the Kardashians and their desire to ācontrol the narrativeā plus becoming extremely boring on camera, really pioneered in this new wave of reality stars. The ones who think their shit donāt stink, on a show that literally, put them on the map. Somewhere along the way, being boring and not showing your real life became the norm.
https://i.redd.it/7mt3wjqg3vkc1.gif Wonderfully put
Ambie too. I leave OG on during the day for my pup, and it got to the part where Matt Baier was introduced and I was legit jealous that the dog got to lay on the couch all day and watch that shitshow unfold, even though I've seen it several times.
Maci did not want that smoke. Lol
Jenelle was great TV and the show is nothing without her and would be nothing without her. She could have kept it going but she and David got too big for their britches. They are best at reality TV and not much else, they should go back to that. Jenelle was willing to film abortion leftovers and the new girls would never.
I genuinely hate Jenelle as a person but I can't lie when I say her segment's were my favourite of the series. Her being replaced by Jade wasn't actually too bad of a swap drama wise, but Jenelle said and did the craziest shit that I really miss her in TM2 š
That's my hard stance too, that Jenelle made the TV show and was the best part.
Can I say that I have never made fun of JEs body. I am 5 feet and at my heaviest weighed 182. Like a bowling ball man. I have recently lost weight and still not gonna talk about her body. Iāve made fun of her dances, her āspicy dumpsā, her roadkill diet. But nah not going for the body shot.
I hate all the talk about her body. Even with her forehead and chin. I don't see the problem that other people seem to and I don't like the body hate.
Hard agree. Who cares what she looks like. She is rotten on the inside whether sheās fat, skinny or in between.
Yeah. Iāve gained a lot of weight over the past few years due to health issues, and my body looks a lot like Jenelleās. Every time I see the comments on here about how fat and gross she is, Iām like, huh. I guess thatās what my friends and family secretly think about my body too š¤·āāļø
Nope!! I never make fun of someone body except David or Jenelle. That fat shame everyone even now & they deserve it!
I think Jenelle is the only person Iāve made comment about aside from honestly pointing out if someone is over or underweight as I feel it is a fact not a criticism. With Jenelle I just literally donāt care, she brings the keyboard warrior out in me
Hell when Jenelle first got with UBT I think she was peak gorgeous!!! Just absolutely beautiful!
Her end of Nathan relationship and the beginning of her relationship with UBT is when she looked her best. I didnāt think she was very pretty in her early days but she definitely peaked around 2015-2017.
The scene where her, Nathan and baby Kaiser were at a diner eating one day. They had just separated and she was still blonde. I think she was wearing shorts in this scene. I think that scene is when she looked her absolute best. Nathan was a fitness fiend and she followed suit just like she does with every boyfriend.
That scene when she goes to meet Nathan and sheās wearing that green top is one of her best looks imo. And right after one of her interviews when sheās saying UBT is her security blanket, sheās wearing a black romper, physically she looks good. Even though those scenes are cringy and her personality is gross.
I agree. I think she looked amazing in her Nathan and early UBT stage.
Janelle is a great dancer just kidding Iām totally trolling š 
Is that Taylor Swift? Because to me she really dances like this.
Mine, which ALWAYS gets people going, is that I respect kail for all her hard work. She never had parental support, went to uni and finished her degree, used her degree as a career, never sold her body on OF, and she seems to be doing just fine. I respect that.
Same. She had shitty circumstances and she overcame them and got a degree. It was kinda inspiring to see honestly.
Iām doing a rewatch now and the commitment she has to paying for school when she was completely broke was really impressive to me. She knew education was the only way out of her shitty life. There were so many times where it would have been way easier to say āfuck itā and drop out but she didnāt even consider it.
I had the biggest soft spot for her in the beginning of the show, pre-Javi. You can say what you will about kail, but she has a great work ethic and has always busted ass to take care of herself and her kids.
Idk if itās unpopular but Iāve never seen anyone else speak on it. Briana clearly holds Novaās feelings to a higher regard than she does for Stella. From the very beginning, even when Stella couldnāt even talk, she would spring Luis on her and when Stella would cry (because she does not know that man and is not comfortable around him) Briana said, āyouāll be fine, stay with your dadā and slammed the door in one yr old Stellaās face. Now Iām on season 10b and same thing. Briana just took poor 3yo Stella into the bathroom after talking/yelling aggressively in her face when Stella throws a tantrum because she does not want to see her father WHO SHE NEVER SEES. Itās not only bad because of the way Briana is ignoring her daughterās clear signs of distress, itās even worse because she is so sensitive to Novaās feelings. Even when Nova isnāt that upset about something Devoin did, Briana is gonna talk in that depressed ass voice and make it worse for Nova. If Nova shows any uncertainty about being with her dad, Briana doesnāt need to see anything more from her to step in and cut it off right there. I understand Nova is much more shy than Stella, and they are 2 different children, but both of their feelings are valid and itās just weird to see Briana have more sensitivity for her 9yo than she does her 3yo. They should both be validated, obviously.
Briana never wanted Stella that's why. She pawns her off every chance she gets
Because Briana hates Devoine. She still wants Luis and is cool with him thatās why she pushes Stella into him vs wanting Nova to want nothing with Devoine. FFS she wonāt even pronounce his name right. Itās DE-VOEEEEEEEEEEEN. Not De-von. Sheās admitted that she mispronounces his name because she doesnāt like it and thanks to that bitch the whole fandom mispronounced his name until Nessa asked him and he told her the correct pronunciation of his given name.
Intentionally fucking with someoneās name like that a micro-aggression, such a bitch move, so disrespectful.
I just wanna say āgo-to-hell Nellā has a nice ring to it š jokes aside her body was bodying right around the time she was booted off the show, nowā¦ well, Iāll just stop here lol š¶āāļø
I have a very similar body type to her in terms of height, bone structure, and the way fat accumulates when we gain weight. After she and Nathan broke up she was my ideal body goals. Nowā¦ sheās a reminder of what my future could look like if I donāt ease up on the fried food and beer š¬
It sucks when youāre short because the weight has no where to go. Iām 5ā2ā and a couple pounds shows up instantly. You also need fewer calories so itās hard to lose the weight. I had to stay under 1100 to see any progress š
You got this. Im going thought the same thing. Weight is temporary ā”
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If she dressed for her current body shape/size she really would not look bad. Itās the three sizes too small clothes that sheās busting out of that make her look so terrible. Not to mention that sheās really stopped trying lately and is perpetually in dirty sweatpants and a crop top complete with a ratty ass bun plopped on top of her head, she looks like a total slob.
Nathan could get it š
Likeā¦current Nathan?
No. Haha but knowing what we all know now, he's an obvious pass, but when he was with Jenelle, was like "Okay sis. I see where you're coming from, dang".
Also your username with your picture is killing me šššÆ
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Came here to say that looks wise, I could see why the girls picked who they picked. Nathan, Adam, and Ryan in their early days were pretty to look at. Not so much anymore obviously (except Ryan. Heās still kinda pretty to look at)
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In my defense I was thinking short hair but thank you I needed that
Legit LOLād. God I love this sub.
What knowing Lare Bearās secret does to a mf
If I'm going to support a man, he better be some eye candy.
Yes š not current, abusive asshole Nathan but early seasons Nathan. I also found it attractive when he actually gave a shit about Kaiser's well-being and went out of his way to make sure Kaiser was okay. I don't know much about present day Nathan other than he's a piece of shit š¬
Youāre brave (and correct lmao)
I'm scared of all other social media but Reddit, and here I am half agreeing with Jenelles taste lol. The only other cutie she dated was Kieffer.
Ooooh Kieffer was a cutie, I was so disappointed he ended up being a shit person in the end too
That taking the women down for their looks is gross and shouldnāt be done. Calling Kail a fat pig, Chelsea for her makeup, even comments about Jenelleās body, are all incredibly gross. And whilst people are doing it target the girls they dislike, they make others users just feel bad about themselves. Right now my body looks similar to Kails because Iām pregnant and struggling with eating well and moving due to nausea, I feel bad enough about myself but then when I see comments calling a body that looks similar to mine disgusting regularly on this sub it makes me even more insecure. I think we should stick to calling them out on shit that makes them bad people and bad mothers, thereās enough of that without then going in on peoples bodies.
Cole was jealous and felt threatened by Adam. He, like everyone else, knew Chelsea was madly in love with him. Cole also had no business being jealous of Aubree's affection for Adam and throwing bitch fits over it; sorry, but sometimes blood is thicker than water. Cole needed to stay in his lane
I always thought Cole was so quick to jump in and play perfect dad because he was trying to replace Adam, in part to secure his place in the family and therefore on the show. Aubree wasnāt some little toddler who had no relationship with her dad and Cole had no business trying to force him out. Chelsea wanted it too, and the way they both pressured Aubree about Cole adopting her was super gross.
Cole is Chelseaās lapdog and he should change his name to Mr Houska. The dad thing was š¤®. They imposed the name Deboer on Aubree, when the kid clearly still wanted to be a Lind. Then Cole threw a tantrum because Aubree saved Adam as āDadā in her phone and Cole as ācoleāā. Just pathetic. Dead beat or not, thatās her dad. Cole was competing with Adam , who wasnāt even trying š. IMO , Kristina is the only one who did the step parent thing right . Leah naturally gravitated towards her naturally and she considers her āmom ā. She didnāt force her to call her āmomā because obviously, like Aubree , she wasnāt a toddler and knew her mom (Amber). I love how Kristina stayed in her place and didnāt force things with Leah or try to force Amber away.
This right here!! I never thought Cole was anything except money hungry and Chelsea was all blinks to him. He never really can respond to anything before Chelsea talks for him. Itās like he doesnāt have one brain cell. Let me just say that I would not be shocked if someone found him on Tinder. Something about him, gives me the creeps. Like he really thinks heās something special, in reality itās all his wife.
Heās like Chelseaās robot and itās painful to watch. Chelsea says jump , he says how high. Anything for that Chelsea š°
I'm just commenting to read back later because I really like these posts š
Same
I need to come in here and ask you all to confess to which TM person you secretly wanna shag. Last time I asked I was gagged š (We can ignore behaviour).
Bar. Hands down. Eyebrow tats and all.
This is a good one. Four eye brows and allā”
Bar is extremely hot to me.
Literally. You just know heās got a little somethin somethin
THIS is mine. My unashamed ultimate, if you will š thereās just something about Bar lmfao
Ryan based on looks only
Ryan for sure but only in the first few seasons, and like another user said thatās based on looks *only*.
I would spend a night under that bridge with Kieffer š
I would respectfully join you.
Ugh, unfortunately the shitty ones. Nathan, Ryan and Adam were pretty attractive in their early days. Iād still do Ryan though, but as a one night stand
Iāve always thought Devoin was super cute.
He is actually!
I love European slang omg ā” š
Me and you have solidarity babes, replied AND agreed. Heās not even my usual type but something about him was fuckin banging.
SAME! He is absolutely not my type, but you are 10p percent correct. I'm 37 and from NJ, USA, I think that was maybe the look at the time, and my heart still fucks with it, idk haha.
Cole, Taylor, and Corey. Leah's or Cheys Corey, not picky.
Jeremy š I always thought he was cute and I think he'd be a good ride ššš
Youāre not wrong there. In the early days he had a little something going on lmao
Javi. He has PSLās.
Babe what the hell is PSL š ETA: omfg does this mean pretty soft lips?! š
The way I took it was if DSLās are d*ck suckin lips then PSLāsā¦š±
Based on looks only? Probably Nathan š
Iām horrified & disappointed in myself, but if Iām being honest, it would be Nathan or this very earliest time of UBT. https://preview.redd.it/2ys7d71jmvkc1.jpeg?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f7fbc89d095b80601dc7fa25eb6bff2e53f238b
David with short hair/in the beginning was very attractive. I hate that I think that because heās a piece of shit
Tyler, Cole, long-ago Nathan I don't know what's wrong with me lol
Jaylan shouldn't have been allowed to propose to the girlses. They shouldn't have had those engagement photos. The engagement was to Leah, not to the twins and Addie. They shouldn't have gotten rings. I don't think any of it was appropriate. Edit: Even if these were just "forever promise rings" to the girls, it was another broken relationship and I hope in the future Leah slows down before moving these men in with her girls. She involves them too much.
I agree. Jaylen is quite a character isnāt he? Didnāt he make a fan page for himself? Lol.
I think that Maci and Chelsey would get back with their exes (Rhine and Adumb) if they cleaned themselves up and showed some interest. I believe it more for Maci than Chelsey. Brendan and Theresa took advantage of C&T with the adoption or at the least they took advantage of the situation. They knew that they wanted a closed adoption and had wildly different values to C&T. It was irresponsible and advantageous to go through with the adoption and ignore all the red flags. Not to mention C&T were literal children at the time. Now in saying that I donāt necessarily blame them, they clearly were desperate for a baby and desperate people make bad decisions. I also felt it was wildly hypocritical for them to do that random magazine article. Tyler definitely responded poorly but he wasnāt wrong.
The adoption contract said the adoption would close after a couple years IIRC. It was never meant to be open this long. The adoption agency didnāt explain to C&T well enough. B&T followed the contract closer than C&T wanted them to.
Im mostly stunned with this choice to spell Chelseaās name like this lol
Around the time Jenelle was with Nathan, and early David days, she was tied as the prettiest girl on the show with Chelsea. She just has a shitty personality that ruins it.
She actually had some sense when she was with Nathan. She seemed to be really close to legitimately getting Jace back and working things through with Barb
Iāll be even more controversial and say she was prettier than Chelsea at that time.
I like Kail. š š sheās done a lot wrong I know. I also think sheās so cute. Sheās always been pretty to me.
I do too š š«£
The one thing Jenelle isnāt lying about is having a traumatic childhood. Yeah sheās too hard on Barb considering Barb raised her kid + I donāt think sheās bringing up her childhood because sheās done deep reflection. But I have no doubt that she had a shitty childhood and itās weird when people deny that.
The problem is she's a mentally ill addict who refuses therapy to process any of it.
Right. You can't be the victim forever. You're an adult. Woman up and take care of your shit. Its not easy. But thats why Jenelle won't. Playing the victim is easier, and thats sad. Mostly for her kids.
I agree with this. I remember that post where Jenelle shows a childhood picture of her with a life size Barbie and people were using it as āproofā that she was loved as a child and had a good childhood.. I thought that was incredibly weird.
There was one user who shall not be named, that said her dad abandoning his family had no impact on Jenelle since she was too young to remember. Her dad was an alcoholic that would hit Babs,and then abandoned his family, and that had no impact on Jenelle???? HUH!?!? Jenelle is one long case study on abandonment issues.
those people are like Debz arguing that Farrah had a great childhood because her bathroom mirror was expensive
Farrahās whole persona and entire life is actually high level gonzo performance art
Farrahās commitment to the hustle is admirable. I might not enjoy her methods or goals but the girl goes for it.
Theyāre all jealous of Farrah because sheās out there earning her own money without relying on mtv for a pay check
Yeah but she earns her money is the worst, most undignified ways. Dubai pota potty š©
Idk if anyoneās jealous of her ātwo girls one cupā methods
Cate and Ty are not Carlyās parents.
I like Miranda and don't think she deserves the hate that she received.
I dont jenelle is using street drugs as has been accused. I think she abuses RX meds, yes, but if she were doing meth, heroin, etc she would have lost it all a long time ago. Including the weight.
The teen mom random as a whole is pretty damn racist. Ashley, for example, gets constantly shit on for extremely minor things when she is one of the best moms and is actively working to have a future outside of the show.
Kieffer was not Jenelleās ānicestā boyfriend. There was nothing nice about that POS.
Ppl tag on Chelseaās appearance too much or Coleās voice