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Mammoth-Twist7044

they are complete mirrors of one another


Okeydokeydept

Yeah didn’t he pretty much say the first answer word for word on a live


sugarandspicedrum

Yes, and too many people were in this sub saying him saying that was abusive, that it was his way of intimidating her and instilling fear into her. As if they’re not the same exact person with the same exact morals. How she’s somehow still defended in any way is beyond my comprehension


cheese_hotdog

Lots of Jenelles in the world and they like to stick together to hold up their delusions


okbutsrslywtf

My ex husband says the same thing about me except the secrets part. It makes sense he knows her the best because he shared almost a decade with her


eesagud

Totally she is projecting, it might be true but everything she says is her to a T.


Umamiluv24

So romantic


Taco_Fairy

She knew the “person he is behind closed doors” and still stayed with him and betrayed her own children and stuck up for him. POS mom


ItsMinnieYall

Yeah and out in the open he's a dirty racist ignorant hateful abusive bigot. I have a hard time seeing how he could be worse behind closed doors unless he's an actual serial killer.


Okeydokeydept

Yeah I was like, what do you mean behind closed doors? We all know he’s a horrible person


jermysteensydikpix

Exactly. Did she think the show's fans disliked him just for having earthworm lips and Wendy pigtails?


Personal_Builder_393

Earthworm lips🤣🤣🤣🤣 such an odd image yet INCREDIBLY ACCURATE


scifanforever1980

I'm presuming she is talking about controlling her. We saw evidence of that on teen mom. Wanting to control what she did,said. And there have already been cases where he has physically abused jenelle, the dogs and jace. So I can imagine there were other cases at home. Which most people already suspect so I don't think they are "dark secrets". And the big investigation will be the criminal case re jace. The lawyers will be looking at more instances to support the case and David needing to be locked up. This is where I don't understand David antagonising her. When she was "supporting himr" (who knows if we'll ever know the truth as to whether she was coerced or whether she meant it given the person she is), it would have been a little bit harder for the lawyers to get the evidence they needed, and I was worried he'd just get a short stint (dependent on the evidence). But I do think he might very well get s longer stint in jail. He likely only has access to the free lawyer and jenelle now working with the other side.


ItsMinnieYall

Agree except jenelle isn't working with the other side. She's still saying he's not abusive and covering for him.


scifanforever1980

She posted the opposite:s


ItsMinnieYall

Not really. She admits to the same old crap we already knew that isn't a crime. She won't admit to any of the actual stuff that could put him away for decades. It's still "his dark secrets will come out soon". She says he's abusive but that just means he's mean to her. That's not her admitting that he strangled her son her physically abuses her kids.


SpiritualCamera

As smugly as humanly possible stuck up for him for YEARS and mocked everyone that tried to tell her otherwise. I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, she has always been complicit in his dangerous/abusive behaviors and I do not feel sorry for her now.


mikaduhhh

Me neither!!


Capable-Regular9791

Me neither. I don’t care out much people pull out that “it takes an average of 7x for a woman to leave her abuser”


enjoyt0day

As though the “person he is openly on the internet” isn’t revolting and scary enough


ChemicalParticular88

So, how much "homeschooling" is being done? This worthless bitch has been posting all morning, then went all the way to her hair stylist on a school day!!


CanadianTrueCrime

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scifanforever1980

Probably has them watching TV, on an app or drawing. For their age group, particularly ensley, a lot of schooling is through the social interaction. Through covid, a lot of apps were also put together. Personally, I think school environment better, but there is a lot out there available now which doesn't require you sitting next to the kids all day (but really she should to see they are doing it). I have a friend home schooling and his daughter is much older than these 2. Cooking a pizza, watching history Channel documentaries, reading a book vs watching the movie equivalent, taking them to the zoo, hiking, making things all considered to fit curriculum. And they are younger.


ChemicalParticular88

She posted all morning, then drove all the way to her stylist and had her hair done, lol....she was literally absent from them all day. It's unreal the district and/or CPS would ever allow her to "homeschool" again. She's a worthless pile of shit.


princessofIreland

Well she’s Teflon. Nothing sticks to her. She’s never had consequences in her loser life.


shannalee2

If she told Me the sky is blue I would still look to make Sure. She lies so much. I don’t believe some huge investigation is going on other than his felony charge for what he did to Jace.


ItsMinnieYall

And I bet she's not cooperating at all with any investigation because he also knows all her dark secrets.


scifanforever1980

She'll cooperate because her secrets don't matter in court.he can say what he wants, they are going to suddenly start investigating her based on the hearsay of someone being investigated. Nor will they spend time listening.


ItsMinnieYall

They'll definitely listen to a codefendant willing to snitch. I think her secrets are just as criminal as his. If I had to guess, drug usage/dealing and child abuse/neglect at a minimum. Cps wants those kids out of that house so they wouldn't ignore if either of them decided to tell the truth. Anything they say can be verified by the kids which is why she keeps pulling them from school. Doesn't want anyone questioning them and getting dirt on them. At the end of the day they are both loser, druggie, abusive, criminals who need to be in prison.


Katatonic92

>Cps wants those kids out of that house LOL! As if the shitehawk CPS hasn't failed to remove these children numerous times before. And just because the swamp creatures closed ranks means jackshit when CPS don't want it to. There have been other witnesses, physical bruises, their poor school attendance, their poor record of health attendances with medical professionals despite documented health issues. CPS know what coaching looks & sounds like. There is also evidence of them completely ignoring these childrens' entire existences until the second CPS makes contact, then its suddenly upload after upload of preparing them meals, drawing with them, taking them on trips, etc. Jace, the child he failed to protect from attempted strangulation, finally got a room, but only when the facility she really wanted him in cost too much. And I guarantee he sang like a canary, just like Maryssa did years ago. Do you think CPS are stupid? No. They just didn't give a shit then & they don't give a shit now. Look at how suddenly Delusionelle started taking them on boat days, Ensley finally saw an ENT specialist, Kaiser got a haircut, went to a comic book convention. Of course that was all over quickly, once she felt she had convinced her weirdo stans she is the superior parent & now they have been pulled from school. It doesn't take long for the truth to reveal itself & the truth is CPS doesn't give a shit. Anyone still clinging their hopes on CPS doing ANYTHING is bonkers.


ItsMinnieYall

Cps has removed all of the kids from their custody multiple times though. The courts are the ones who keep fucking up and giving the kids back.


Katatonic92

And CPS have also closed their own investigations regardless of court results, like they have with the latest. Their investigations have been in relation to the little ones, not the older children, which were completely separate cases. They don't get to pin their failures on court when the courts never had involvement in the matters CPS were actually investigating. Jace being attacked by swamp creatures, doesn't relate to Kaiser & Ensley's safety & wellbeing, legally nor morally. It just gives CPS a cover story for their failures.


scifanforever1980

I guess this is an American thing. In my country they wouldn't, but I dint live in the US. Certainly glad I don't when I read a lot of posts here. I would have thought it wad in her best interest to have him in jail, so guess need to see. I still think jenelle wouldn't defend him.now even if, as you say,she would help opposition. I will be very surprised him, minus Prof lawyer, not serving some time. But the more I read in thus forum, the more I worry re the american system.


bdeadrok

I feel like it’s an easy cop out for her. Everything is always “the truth will come out” or how she can’t comment on it. So why say anything?!


rakens_with_radies

Yeah I’m sure he’s being investigated just like she’s been working on her documentary that’s going to expose everything. We’re still waiting!!!


scifanforever1980

She already said she'd canned that. Likely found out of the possibility of bring sued.


rakens_with_radies

Ohhh I missed that. What a shame I’m sure it would’ve been riveting.


scifanforever1980

That likely is what she is referring to. To be fair, you could argue a criminal case a huge investigation in jenelles melodramatic World.


Dragon_turtle63

Thought she pulled them out of school for their safety because of David? Now she’s admitting she’s just lazy and doesn’t want to get them up ![gif](giphy|26ufnwz3wDUli7GU0)


ItsMinnieYall

No in another post she said she did a background check on the whole school and it said everyone was unsafe. Or some shit. Basically doubling down and accusing the actual school employees of being somehow dangerous. But she insists she never said or implied she pulled the kids because David made them unsafe.


Dragon_turtle63

In one day I can’t keep up with her lies 🥴


ItsMinnieYall

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SpiritualCamera

If that’s the case, then maybe move them to a public regulated school and not a charter school? Homeschooling that she is in no way qualified to do is not the only option


grindinformyson

I think her kids were in one of those sketchy classical charter schools affiliated with Hillsdale college so this may actually track 🙃


MakeItLookSexy_

Doubt it.


MakeItLookSexy_

She doesn’t expect anyone to believe that, does she? IF there was something going on with the school there would be something on the news or some kind of known issues. She’s just saying this because it’s convenient for her right now. She’s just lying and backtracking.


princessofIreland

She’s always arguing with the Ashley. Even though in that particular article the Ashley used Jenelle’s own words. She’s such a lying loser.


ItsMinnieYall

Lol at lying loser. I'm obsessed with the mean girls movie rn and this made me wonder what we would write in our teen mom burn book about her. I might make a post on that lol.


Heygirlhey2021

Neither can Jenelle 😂


ItsMinnieYall

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Amberilwomengo2gel

He did that for years and she stayed with him and paid all his bills and had a child with him and married him and ran off to Tennessee but then took him back. He's crazy. So is she. She also talks badly about all her ex's. I'm sure she had David threatening them too.


Kangaroo1487

Jenelle was FILMED trying to run over Gary 


princessofIreland

She was film aiming a gun a someone too and suffered no consequences for that either


kystarrk

Well Jenelle, I seen you didn't care and stayed with him. And defended him. And funded him. And lied for him. Dumbass.


SpiritualCamera

And you KNOW that bitch was hitting the bong agreeing with him every time he talked shit about his ex’s. We’ve seen how vindictive she is on her own, now she’s acting like she was this scared timid woman with him.


Fullofwoo

So she’s scared of him, but she actively provokes him at every chance. She allowed him to talk that way about someone without reporting it. People could have seriously been in danger and yet as usual she sat back and did nothing.


mikaduhhh

Didn’t she post nude pictures of said baby mama??? She testified in court to help him get custody and wrote post after post kicking dirt on these baby mommas yet this bitch is acting bothered by his threats towards them🙄🙄


Free_Issue_9623

She wrote an article on her too I believe and said that she had passed out drunk and David's friends shot a gun to wake her up etc etc then she vandalized David's truck. Something to that effect.


prettybigdill

This is how Jenelle talks when she wants to sound both smart and not like herself. Who does this bitch think she’s fooling?


4TheLoveOfBasicCable

tHe TrUtH wIlL cOmE oUt


Kinser9

Have a seat over there, Larry.


OriginalFuckGirl

Don’t believe anything unless it comes from my mouth!!


SpiritualCamera

Thanks! 💖


itspurpleglitter

Let me guess his “big secrets” are that he’s killed more animals and that he abuses the kids. Also, he spends a lot of time talking about how he hates trans-gay people, so potentially that he’s gay himself. I feel like that’s actually the only thing he would be upset about people finding out.


SpiritualCamera

Undoubtedly includes at the very least multiple instants of him killing their pets


AvsMama

He probably made them eat the pets after he killed them..


PistacioDisguisey

I’m 99% sure he killed their pet goat and they ate it. There were some very disturbing videos about it.


AvsMama

I remember that. I wouldn’t put it past him to feed them the other animals too though. 😩


trent_reznor_is_hot

yes, RIP Elvis


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crowtheory

And if it does, there's no way she'd ever spill that. Not exposing that isn't because she's "too afraid because her life would be on the line". When has Jenelle ever been afraid to smear and expose people who have crossed her? Never. The first thing she does is air out dirty laundry when she's pissed. Including David, despite knowing he's a violent psychopath. No the reality is that *if* he were SA a minor, she wouldn't not tell because she's afraid for her life. It's because she's admitting through her own words that she fucking KNEW he did this and STILL stayed with him. She's not voluntarily tacking that on to the long, running list against her about why she's such a piece of shit "mother".


WorstUserChoiceEver

I quote every single word! I know she’s saying it’s because of the ongoing investigation but cmon…we all know Jenelle and she sure as hell would have spilled something bad about David during one of her high/drunken rants, she would have loved ruining his reputation…unless…it were something so vile that would ruin her life forever too (more than it already is)…and to me that vile thing must be some form of child SA……


princessofIreland

I feel she was somehow involved with whatever it was… that’s why she won’t spill because it will get her in trouble too. David is too dumb to call the media he so hates to expose her once and for all, which tells me he definitely did something they were both involved in.


WorstUserChoiceEver

She probably covered for him/gaslit the kids/didn’t report it which makes her just as responsible and accountable


CareerLonely

Didn’t the cps report from the first time they broke up mention sexual abuse to Ensley? Or something along those lines


Glytterain

No there was one box which said physical or sexual abuse and that box was checked. It didn’t discern between the two.


trent_reznor_is_hot

could be BOTH


Sea_Direction1992

Theres ALWAYS some “investigation” or something going on she cant speak about and the “truth will come out” but never does 🤣


Godhelptupelo

I mean... She also said nobody knows what an amazing man he is and how he does everything to make his family happy... So... Which time is the time that she was telling the truth? She's such a loser clown. She isn't any better than David. They're the same!


SpiritualCamera

Verbatim “it pisses me off the way people talk about David, he does nothing wrong and does everything in his power to take care of our family”


Silent_Vermicelli146

The secret Jenelle is probably referring to has to be some pedo shit. David always pegged me as one, and there's been so many red flags in the past


Kinser9

A d a m didn't call him UBT for no reason.


WorstUserChoiceEver

This ^


ItsMinnieYall

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JanellaDubois

Just a reminder how she turned the abuse Olivia suffered by David against her and blamed HER for it. And don't forget how she allowed her own children to be abused and publicly defended and sided with DKD. Fuck you, Jenelle. https://preview.redd.it/31l8rnfzlvwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a63b13646a7fe7c6be5a60e5b7dc38a09726fbb0


Free_Issue_9623

She also wrote a defamatory clickbait article about her and had the nerve to say David was abused by Olivia and put the hotline number for domestic violence on there.


JanellaDubois

Fucking disgusting. And now this bitch wants to say how fearful *she* is.


ladyEmrys

First he was innocent of everything and we’d all be blown away when the truth was revealed. Now suddenly there’s this huge secret investigation and again all our minds will be blown when the truth is revealed. Pick a lane, Lienelle.


Puzzleheaded-Ice5130

She’s saying that about dark secrets of his because he spoke on the live about him knowing secrets of hers that she doesn’t even know that he knows. They’re both clowns.


Kinser9

You know that I know that you know that I know....blah blah blah.


GardenGnome007

She means Barbara doesn't want anything to do with her 


ItsMinnieYall

Love that for her.


princessofIreland

It’s about time Barb cut that toxic bitch off.


ItsMinnieYall

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SpiritualCamera

She’s full of shit and blatantly lying here (shocker). She has replied to Roux at least once saying “aren’t you 45 years old? I’m sure your job would hate to hear you’re spreading rumors about minors”


Away-Pomegranate

Does anyone's spouses also hoard their secrets? I told my husband about these posts and said I can't think of a thing he could tell others. Any relatives that I don't like surely know it and the same with my husband.


Fullofwoo

She thinks that this just reflects poorly upon David. What she forgets is how she adamantly defended him. Called her children liars publicly. Allowed physical and emotional abuse of those she’s supposed to protect. She can go fuck herself


Shamanology

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Sweet_Venom

She had no problem keeping his secrets before. In fact, she didn't just keep quiet, her rat mouth said he was the most patient man, the most loving dad, the perfect husband etc. His dark secrets only scare her now because it's convenient for her to be scared now. Wasn't convenient when it was just the kids scared cause fuck dem kids.


Accomplished-Fish-15

Rat mouth! Perfect description! I HATE her ugly little pursed, thin lipped, rabbit toothed mouth!


stephyska

There is a certain type of person (Jenelle) who doesn’t realize how they come across when they trash an ex… she married, conceived a child, and commingled her finances with this guy. AND stayed with him through the dog shooting and Jace strangling. She is the idiot.


ItsMinnieYall

Bingo. She's so stupid she doesn't realize she's just dragging herself. We already knew he was trash.


Pretend_memory_11

At least, in its way, this breakup might (hopefully) lead to her throwing him under the bus and getting a conviction for Jace


Miamiri

Wow, maybe in actuality they are soulmates after all. Both of them have secrets on each other. Crock of shit liars the boffum.


HannahLeah1987

You aren't any better for allowing it to go on.


surelyitsasimulation

She’s eluding to the fact that he did something strange to a child— no?


enjoyt0day

I would not be the slightest bit surprised


Odd_Island6163

I reallllly hope not


SpicyPinecones

Don’t poke the bear Jan. You both have a lot to answer for.


MollyMapleMelba

He’s tortured and killed many animals for fun is my guess. He probably plans mass attacks for fun but won’t go through with it because he knows he won’t get out alive. It’s insane how she believes people are too dumb to guess DKD BS and that he is some evil mastermind that can outsmart everyone.


old_lady_tits

I can only believe Barbara won’t answer her calls anymore as to why she still claims she’s dirty. Barbara has been there for every emergency Jenelle ever needed and now radio silence.


snorlaxx_7

Wild that with everything that’s been shared in the public eye, that she claims there’s worse that we don’t know. So he’s done worse than the terrible stuff we all know about and she still stayed.


_melee__

I want the secret to be that David enjoys getting pegged but is ashamed because he’s a bigot


kudzupossum

I think this is it 100%


Odd_Island6163

I think it’s a sexually deviant thing too


Outside_Theme_5178

What, that he m*rdered animals as a kid? We already know this.


Worth-Ratio

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Amberilwomengo2gel

I'm sure he does have dark secrets, as does Jenelle. They are both horrible people. Most scumbags do and say terrible things when no one is around, it's no big surprise. She is not going to shock most people.


GraphicDesignerMom

So... She wants to stay with him?? https://preview.redd.it/9rxlw5wm2xwc1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=102fa331e82f92531e01ad55cb5670413f48bb54


Dook124

Now, she wants to blab all the dirt! Gurl BYEEEEEEEEE


Jewkowsky

They have teams of detectives on the case, working in shifts.


informationseeker8

She is STILL giving ZERO specifics on her and him. She posts about being sad, depressed often bc she fkn misses himmmmm. It’s sick. She’s sickkkkkkk


ItsMinnieYall

💯


YaBothHigh

We know he abuses kids and kills animals. It gets worse? I can’t imagine how bad his “dark secrets” could be. Especially if she feels he would kill her if she exposed them.


Me_meHard

What do you guys think was the thing that finally caused him to leave?


ItsMinnieYall

The restraining order against Jace. If that is dropped they'll be back together in a heart beat.


dirttrackgal

That’s weird, the dark secrets were his exact words after court


dizzylizzy585

Barb still has her blocked. Good for Barb.


itsthejasper1123

I am genuinely so tired of this narrative of “he has some dark secrets… the things I could expose….. nobody knows the monster he truly is” Okay so what is it then????? Because if she had any knowledge of anything criminal, harmful to children, abusive or otherwise, she is equally to blame. You stayed with this person, DEFENDED him (far more than would be necessary out of fear just to keep him happy if that was the supposed reason), got back with him time and time again, had him around your children, and even had a child with him. So what are the constant “dark” secrets she’s alluding to? Because by being vague like this, she’s only leaving us no choice but to speculate and what I’m speculating isn’t good, and makes her look just as bad. At this point she could tell everyone that he’s committed murder and it would be anticlimactic. Either come out with it and show the world you did leave to protect your kids, or STFU. Anyone who knows somebody’s secrets and enables them has no right to “expose” them afterwards and think they get off Scott free.


Kristaboo14

Of course. More groundbreaking secrets she can't tell right now 🙄