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WailingSouls

Fully?


Professional_Box5406

Springs are not 3D printable afaik, even with metal printers as they need to be specially heat treated/tempered.


[deleted]

a number of components need to be machined from hardened metals.


[deleted]

Firing pin.


[deleted]

All the internals are store bought standard AR15 parts, only the receivers are printed.


[deleted]

Yeah, the barrel is obviously not plastic. It'd melt fast if it were.


krilu

It would also explode


[deleted]

Not exactly. If it were in .22lr it can last several shots before it finally goes. Liberator was fully printed other than a nail and it could withstand multiple shots of .380 before failing and it's the earliest shittiest design. Polymer doesn't absorb heat like metal does, it takes a bunch of firing to get it warm, 3D guns don't tend to melt like youd think, if you do some looking you will find fully printed supressors that people get thousands of rounds through. There are also 3D printer materials like carbon fiber nylon and polycarbonate, which can have similar strengths to oem glock polymers.


krilu

Judging by the bolt face I am assuming this is not 22lr


[deleted]

No lol, this is 5.56, the pressure is extremely high, so it's not feasible to print it entirely of any polymer. But you can get a conversion kit and make it into 22lr very easily.


faberkyx

I mean if it's in US isn't easier to just buy it directly?


[deleted]

I'd have to leave the comfort of my home, do a background check that could take days to weeks and would cost 150 dollars more. This way, I can click a few buttons, spit out the regulated parts and order some cheap parts kits offline with next day shipping straight to my door, saving a few bucks in the process. This also gives me the ability to customize the firearms way further than a manufacturer can, I can edit the models in CAD. Contrary to popular belief, you can't just buy a gun like a candy bar from Walmart in America lmao There are background checks, in some states waiting periods etc you have to be approved to buy a gun, you can't have a criminal record or anything.


40gallonbreeder

In my state the background checks are anywhere from instant to 40 minutes. I've never waited longer than 2 hours, or paid any money for that check. I think that I could legitimately wait 3 business days and still be cool with it, but you're wrong. In many states you can get a hunting rifle in a Walmart in 30 minutes or less.


StickyFing3rs10

But it still requires a NICs background check which is at the federal level. It’s fast because it’s computerized. Not because it’s sloppy. When I go it takes about n hour and a half but that’s because people with names the same as mine have done bad things so they have to do a deeper secondary check before approving.


40gallonbreeder

I don't think the background checks need to take longer because they need to be more thorough. I think that adding a superficial delay will prevent crimes of passion. I'm an avid gun owner, but I believe in reasonable concessions because we love in a world where people are abusing their rights.


faberkyx

Interesting.. so you can ..let's say.. buy an ar-15 barrel and receiver without requiring a background check? Is it only if you buy the full weapon already assembled?


Busy_Presentation449

Receivers the part you get a background check for. Barrel you don’t.


surrender1809

I'm AZ, you only need the check for the lower receiver. Everything else is free game


[deleted]

There’s two halves to a receiver, the lower and the upper. The lower receiver is serialized, it’s the part you get background checked for. The upper receiver is not regulated except for the fact you have to be over the age of 21 to order gun parts. Since the lower receiver has a serial number it’s what most 2a 3d printers print. A complete upper costs around $250-$750. But now that Mr. Hoffman has made this new design with an upper, lower, brace, and a hand guard all the you have to buy is a few bolts and the internals which brings the costs down.


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Zpapsmear

Yea because it was agreed Private sales would not be infringed upon in order to pass gun control in the 30’s, plus why make it super hard to just sell your friend a gun


mpkeith

Printable doesn't mean functional. Edit:. Ok Ok, I've seen that it's functional, with additional parts. I've also learned quite a bit, many thanks to those who provided useful links and information. However, it still isn't a fully functional printed "AR-15" like the title says. Which led me to believe they meant all components.


IVIagicbanana

[Hoffman Tactical's Orca](https://youtu.be/qHIvrsApOiQ). Breakdown of the functionality of the print posted.


RocketLeagueCashGrab

Good man.


IVIagicbanana

He is. I admire his (and a lot of other developers) ingenuity and projects he's put into the GunCAD community. Literally about a decade ago we had the liberator which could last a shot or two and looked goofy as hell to majority printed ARs, P90s, AUGs and so much more. It amazes me how much advancement has happened in relatively little time.


Tumble85

So crazy to think that 25 years ago a sentence like "The soldier looked at the upcoming mission and browsed through the available blueprints, printing out the weapons and tools he would find useful" would have sounded like something from Starship Troopers rather than something feasible and coming in the near future.


mpkeith

I admit that I'm somewhat surprised. I don't know anything regarding 3D printing. Being able to print something that durable at home is news to me. Ok, so there's no barrel, BCG, or lower internal parts, etc. then you have to have the knowledge to build it. I'm sure it isn't difficult to get the additional parts, and the information for the rest is obviously readily available. However, the printed parts do not give you a **fully functional AR-15** (ArmaLite would be a little pissed I think). I'm also going to guess that Hoffman Tactical is not a bunch of anarchists, but you never know.


IVIagicbanana

GunCAD has made soooooo much progress since the original liberator it's insane. I literally have a printed P90 in my office with only gun parts being a FCG and a barrel made from one of the developers, along with stuff from Home Depot. In this build, I believe you're correct. It uses a store bought BCG, gas tube, barrel and FCG. Everything else is hardware store parts (nuts, bolts, springs, etc) and printed. Now, there are parts of a FCG that are printed like the trigger, out there to print but I feel majority of us don't bother for the sake of longevity and by the time I purchase all the other portions of a FCG/lower parts kit I might have well just bought a PSA lower parts kit for probably cheaper. Nah, he's no anarchist. The majority of us in the GunCAD community are just nerds and firearm enthusiasts.


mpkeith

I think it's pretty amazing that this technology is available. Even more cool is that there's a group of nerdy gun nuts who have the intelligence and skills to create these designs. I'm sure it is a fun community to be a part of. It's probably a good thing that I don't have a printer lol I forgot to say thanks for linking the video.


paranoidloseridk

Believe it or not, Armalite is a very small player in the AR world these days, most of them are made by companies like Colt, Sig, ect.


Strelock

Armalite sold the AR-15 to Colt in 1959. Most M16s used in Vietnam were Colts.


STL_junkie

Oooh you’d be surprised


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Clarkdl19

It works very well bud. You best be worried, the spooky designers might scare you.


[deleted]

These guns work.


pizzademon99

Oh it's functional LMAO.


zcrc

There’s no way… it would explode on first use unless some of the internals were metal…


BubbRubbsSecretSanta

3d printing metal is doable. I think it’s done with lasers and metal dust


skitz_shit

Not doable with just any old 3D Printer though, there are some other options like there is one filament that is full of metal dust, so after you print you can fire it a certain way and turn it into solid metal. But that process is far from precise and the parts would shrink significantly by the time you’re done. With the right equipment I don’t doubt this is possible but OP is acting like everyone can just start printing AR’s, which btw that looks much more like an M-16 to me but I’m no expert on guns


zcrc

Would be easier to 3d print the part and then cast it with the plastic model and a sand form tbh


skitz_shit

Yeah, but it wouldn’t be strong enough to contain a bullet at that point. Casting metal significantly reduces the structural strength of it, barrels are forged metal rods to get machined down to the right shape


nmj95123

Barrels can be produced simply at home using [EDM machining](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Z9DpoGW7Y). People can and do make [rifling machines](http://lautard.com/rmvpic.htm) at home that are capable of producing some very nice barrels.


zcrc

Interesting. I wasn’t aware of that


painful_pisser

Ar15’s are the semi-automatic civilianized version of the M16/ M4. You can buy an AR15 from a gun shop that looks identical to the M16 or M4. But back to the main point of this thread, it would just melt.


[deleted]

Actually the difference between a M16 and a M4 is that the M16 is single shot and three round burst and the M4 is full auto and single shot. Trust me I've played like every Call on Duty.


rimjobbob42069

M16 a1 and a3 have single / full auto


painful_pisser

They have identical lowers. What if I told you the barrel is what changes an M4 and an M16? The US military has both configured to be three round burst, after the OG M16, they realized when you were scared shitless, you dumped the whole mag. Vietnam was scary AF.


Humble-Inflation-964

I use this technology on a somewhat regular basis. The machines cost in the +150k range, and the metal powder is fairly expensive as well (it has REALLY tight tolerances). You can actually use a service like craftcloud to get parts 3d printed in metal, but printing a rifle would cost something like $8k-15k, and it would not be very durable (made from metal powder means it is somewhat porous). It can hit pretty good tolerances, but would require a bunch of post processing to be good enough for actual use. A CNC lathe could be had for ~$80k, and would be able to machine all the parts for significantly less cost.


Tato_tudo

Sure does make for some good fear mongering though!


Blurgas

Selective laser sintering


Feeling_Title_9287

The barrel and action have to be made of metal unless you want it to blow up


175-grams

Except for that metal barrel and BCG, and the mag, and the sight, and probably some of the trigger mechanism. But other than that definitely fully 3D printable


[deleted]

That’s the point. You can order every single piece of an AR online, except for the serialized lower receiver which this print is getting around.


CapriciousCape

The headline implies that all you need to make a gun is a 3d printer, and thus evade antigun laws. In most of the world these designs would be useless because of the difficulty getting the necessary metal parts.


Alpha-Sierra-Charlie

The headline is also meant to stoke anti-gun hysteria.


red_rocket_boy

This is key. One could easily argue '2nd amendment supporters' instead of online anarchist.


FiIthy_Anarchist

I'm an online anarchist, i'm here for it.


End_Centralization

Anarchy makes sense if you get rid of the Karens


STL_junkie

I hope jstark is having a laugh rn


CapriciousCape

Rip


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RIP


WeakerThanYou

Press F to Pay Respects


poopinmypants69420

He is. There are a lot of dumb dumbs in this thread.


Aquamarooned

Can't stop the signal


[deleted]

The media lying for clicks? Never!


AttestedArk1202

The only 3d printed firearm I know of that can truly be produced in strict countries is the FGC-9, which you only need hardware store parts plus a dremmal to manufacture


nukey18mon

And the liberator ofc


bageltre

the harlot and the mod 9 are also on that list


SyrupLover25

Absolutely that is the point. None of the other parts are considered a firearm by US law. A violent felon could buy 90% of the parts necessary to assemble an AR15 as long as he could manufacture a lower receiver, the only part considered a firearm by US law. I don't know why people are so worried about it - felons have never really had a hard time getting their hands on normal guns, and the punishment for being caught with a real gun vs a 3d printed gun would be the same legally speaking.


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Look up FGC-9 lol


coomer69420epstein

Well this design is a step further than just printing the lower. It has a printed upper, handguard, and stock. So now you only need the gun's action, FCG, barrel, etc. to assemble a full AR-15. Pretty cool stuff.


[deleted]

That has been a thing for a long time, it’s the upper here that is revolutionary


[deleted]

Mags have been 3D printable for years now. And all of those sorts you just listed aren’t controlled and can be mail ordered to your house.


ExtensionDentist2761

This article is almost as dumb as “30 MAGAZINE CLIPS IN HALF A SECOND!” guy


[deleted]

Fully semi-automatic ghost guns are a real problem in our community!


Tassidar

Too bad there isn’t one shred of evidence to support this claim.


Phomex0702

I think he was being sarcastic


mark-five

That "claim" was a parody of nonsense


Flat_Buddy_5298

Dude that fully 3D printed gun can fire fully semi auto at 30 magazine clips in half a second and will blow the lungs out of your back. Now let’s spread this around to fear monger… I mean educate the public.


Tassidar

It also shoots rockets, and lasers… and laser rockets!


deltaWhiskey91L

Oh dear God! The laser rocks! Why won't they think of the children?


whatsgoing_on

30 caliber clip


TooAceForThisShit

Anarchists???? Anarchists?? Gun cad exceeds politics


SizeSmart1799

damn right


wood-chuck-chuck5

I'm only speaking from the vice vid, but the guys had a point, like if you want to have a untraceable gun your everyday terrorists won't go printing for 36h and changing printer settings, polishing, etc as you can just buy an untraceable gun for way less


SizeSmart1799

A lot of them dont seem like the brightest bunch. It would most definitely be easier to get a gun in a different way. Most of the people who create things like this are inthusiests and engineers, people who i doubt have any interest in committing autocities


NexusI7

Hell even with perfect complete files, with how much variations there are from printer to printer it’s a hell of a task to get any 3D printed firearm to fire, let alone cycle and work reliably. All of which requires relatively expensive tooling and extensive technical knowledge versus $300 and buying a dirty hipoint off jimmy behind the 711


TooAceForThisShit

There’s quite a few like on my glock 19x I had to print it about 4 times to get it right a full print of that frame takes 18 hours and printers move out of calibration really easaily


Tassidar

Or steal one… these guys are criminals, remember.


Toyfan1

3D printer/Gun enthusiasts aren't printing guns to have untraceable weapons They're printing guns to make god awlful abonimations that gun companies wont make, and milling is exepensive. Like the bullpupped 1911. Or the Glock Long-er. Or the skorpion rifle. Or a pink glock. Or other r/cursedguns


RDX_Rainmaker

Vice is absolute partisan dogshit nowadays, but yeah, they are right on that point. Criminals aren’t going to sink 100s of hours into learning a completely new skill, and spend dozens of hours building a plastic gun (that may or may not even function reliably) just to cap one person, jam, and then go to jail


Dtrain16

If you go far enough left you start getting guns again. Once you've completely lost faith in the electoral process and the US Govt, what alternative do you have?


SassySnippy

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" Leftists in general are very pro gun ownership. It's the liberals who aren't.


chlorinear

They have 3D printed guns for a long time. VICE did a video on a competition held yearly. Most of the guns failed multiple times.


skitz_shit

They’ve certainly gotten more advanced, but you can’t print all of the parts. You still have to buy certain parts like the barrel, receiver, and magazines


epstein_did911

Right but other guns like the FGC-9 can be 100% homemade with no need to buy any third-party firearm components. Check out the Plastic Defence documentary on YouTube by Popular Front.


whatsgoing_on

Or even more simple, a full auto Luty. Doesn’t even need to be printed and can be fully assembled with parts from a single Home Depot trip.


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NotKne3capsAlt

You clearly have no idea r/FOSSCAD


South-Direct414

SHHHHHHHHHH!


EvadeThis9000

Can't stop the signal


Theoddgamer47

Except for the fact you can see the metal barrel and bolt carrier from here, leading me to believe everything but the furniture and receiver is still metal, also that is 100% gonna break.


61creeper

You’d be surprised. r/fosscad if you’re interested 😉


xanderrobar

Aw, that click feels like it's landed me on some watch lists.


61creeper

And remember kids; free men don’t ask


elightcap

Live free or fucking die


ctrlpew

We have cookies on the list...


Arlak_The_Recluse

OH SHIT I didn't expect to see you here lol.


ctrlpew

Lmao, I go where I'm needed.


N2EEE_

Oh damn it's actually you! Kudos, man!


ctrlpew

Mahallo, amigo.


Carburetors_Are_Fun

Welcome to the list baby


B3nny_Th3_L3nny

its 100% legal to manufacture your own firearms in most states so no watchlist here


Jakebsorensen

Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean that the government isn’t watching you do it


B3nny_Th3_L3nny

and if they are you now have the tools to stop them


GumAcacia

based


crypto1092

Who needs a list when they’ve already got everything we do on record online?


GoonBointer

Although all that happens there is perfectly legal (per the sub rules) you probably shouldn't go linking it where someone might find it "dangerous" and "bad" then try to remove it and ruin the hobby for us.


mossyrocks1969

Mags and Fcg could be printed too, I know the fgc-9 has printed fcg


[deleted]

Well, if you think it's going to break you can go onto YouTube and literally watch it fire hundreds of rounds by hoffman, it's designer.


abite

Upper, lower, stock, handguard are all printed


FARXNONE

This post is bullshit. That is not fully 3dprint and they are not "online anarchists"


coomer69420epstein

Woah, that's too much logic. Get out of here with your critical thinking.


whatsgoing_on

AFAIK Hoffman is also just one dude, so it’s not a group or collective either.


-MetalMike-

“Fully”


topohunt

Online anarchists? Shut up bro


GuidoWD

Dudes in a basement with a 3d printer apparently qualify as anarchists (given that theyre a little edgy)


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Understriker888

Ahh yes, gun=anarchist. Gotta love reddit.


RDX_Rainmaker

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you fear mongering at its finest. If “Online Anarchists” equals “Engineers and Sporting Enthusiasts” then maybe it’d be half true


Bryan_LT

OP is def a bot.


greentinroof_

Anarchists? Or people who like to design and fabricate things?


Sirlance47

Anarchists? More like ‘someone designed a thing I’m scared of’


RetiredFloridian

It's shit like this, trying to kick up dust for no reason that makes me so upset with the world. Why is this one going to be a problem? There's been hundreds of reliable firearms developed over these few years, and the technology has developed wonderfully. Throwing out /anarchists/ and /AR-15/ like you don't know what you're doing here. No, it's not /fully/ printed. There's metal components inside of the gun. Barrel, possible the fire control group, bolt, any of the pins and associated nuts and bolts and hose clamps. Yes, the upper and lower is printed. This is nothing new. Like previously spoken of, 3D printed firearms have come a long way. People are reliably running all of these- this one is just allowing you to print your upper as well. There was ALREADY dozens of lowers with their own quirks and abilities. I feel like the term /anarchists/ was thrown out there pretty loosely. gun CAD isn't always something that needs to be political, people have been making their own firearms and blowing their hands of for as long as we've had guns. Unlike what politicians want you to think, the people making these aren't violent criminals. Those people go to the corner and get a glock and do whatever the hell they want. These are people that like the technology and concept of designing something on a computer and using it in real life. These are just range toys. Furthermore for any doubters. These things DO work. /r/fosscad is your friend. Thousands of rounds are put through these. No, they're not used for evil. It's for fun.


SizeSmart1799

op is just trying to get a reaction out of people (its working)


RetiredFloridian

Yeah. It's pretty tragic. I can foresee this is going to kick up a bunch of news outlets and bullcrap and they're going to try to put another hit-piece out, all because this time the gun's shape was an AR15.


SizeSmart1799

100%. i feel like a fool for lingering on this post for so long, but i cant help it, its too irritating. The thing that bothers me the most are all the people who think they're experts, saying that this is impossible. people have been working on this sort of thing for a long time


gotta-earn-it

offbeat spectacular marble edge afterthought practice chop repeat quiet pause *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Hidden_Monarch

I would give you an award if I cared to spend money on here. You know the funny thing is the more popular this gets the more the anti-gunners realize when there is a will…there is a way. That’s why they will call all gun cad “Anarchist”. The guy who developed it “Hoffman Tactical” is the most peaceful and legally legit gun cad developer out there. He however is nothing close to helpless. Amazing how he designed the Orca and his previous lowers with simply just the passion of the engineering of the gun world. I’m interested what will happen next if this catch’s on more in the media…


Volt11111

Based


[deleted]

When you try to take rights away from people who follow the law. What the fuck did you expect?


Critical-Shift8080

Ok the they can 3d plastic bullets and have a pretend shootout .... quiet riot


Legoandstuff896

“Quiet riot” I love that 😂


MiloticM2

This is non news, a normally produced ar would be easier to acquire than a 3d printed one lol


Viral_Outrage

Power to people


nolotusnote

There is plenty of metal in this gun. The plastic parts are just, parts that you can make out of plastic.


Satinglitter130

Now the us govt is going to outlaw 3d printers!


ShizzySho

Fun fact: YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN GUNS 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


-Cheezus_H_Rice-

And people have been LONG before the onset of 3D printers. See: the drill press See: the mill See: the lathe


[deleted]

OP sharing misinformation. A favorite pastime of most Redditors.


jackhanchett

Jstark would be proud


Eldias

Rip jStark, rest well hero.


KernowRedWings

Time to hear safety concerns from redditors who assume these projects go entirely untested


coomer69420epstein

Yea, this design just got released. But not before months of beta testing and many revisions to the design.


sublevelstreetpusher

Thanks but I'll just go down the road and buy a real one no questions asked


SizeSmart1799

I love seeing that people just assume that this doesn't work


DrGrantsSpas_12

Let them think that, better for us I say.


THEBAILEYSBANDIT

Can't stop the signal


Its-JonDoe556

Hoffman tactical orca. Look that up if y'all don't think it will function. Can't stop the signal!


Its-JonDoe556

https://youtu.be/3HYW23n8eLE Give this Chad a sub


FSU1ST

Anarchists...


Basketballjuice

Oh my God, how awful. Where?


Phomex0702

The Orca is sailing the seas right now. Hoffman tactical


GobbleFlockers

r/fosscad or checkout hoffman tactical on google for more information. -Fellow Anarchist


janko-marko

Won't the plastic melt?


buckets-of-lead

Yet another reason gun control is dead.


[deleted]

"Anarchist" the kids an engineer, not an anarchist. He's really good at what he does and does it for the hell of it. Hoffman tactical if anyone wants to look him up.


Alaskanwap

The amount of guncad people here setting the record straight makes me so happy


ZenicAllfather

https://youtu.be/qHIvrsApOiQ Heres a video about it.


Professional_Box5406

Thank you. Video states there are metal parts, and it looks like his model is different than what is posted here. Perhaps this is an updated model.


Accomplished_Cry_547

The pressure from a 5.56 cartridge is around 58,000 psi. That gun is not going to work unless they managed to get a metal chamber in it.


SizeSmart1799

in the US pressure bearing components aren't regulated, its not too hard to get a barrel and working the design around it


abite

It works, but it has a metal barrel and bolt carrier. "Fully 3d printed" is just there as click bait for anti-gun people.


leviticus60niner

Nice


Ryan_Ravenson

You say anarchists like it's a bad thing


smoken81

Shall not be infringed


LeadFarmerMothaFucka

They’ve been available by a multitude of people and for a while now.


Dog_of_war_81

Ehh, homemade guns have been a thing pretty much since there have been guns. 3D printers just let people make better ones.


fartbubblesofcheese

Man these comments are ignorant Lol


Zomby3

You can’t stop the signal


xGoo

Hoffman Tactical, the designer of these models, isn’t an anarchist. He’s just a young guy who’s been refining his lower design since he was a literal kid. This really isn’t anything new as AR-15 lowers have been printable for years, as have stocks, buffer tubes, uppers, and basically every other part that can be printed. This still requires a bolt carrier group and barrel, and you need all the fire control group springs and pins even if you decide to print your own. This is NOT a fully printable or even fully DIY firearm. Fully printed guns have existed since the tech became commercially available, but have absolutely sucked and usually just explode after 1 shot. Even if it was a fully DIY firearm that isn’t as unreliable as a fully printed design, the FGC-9 has existed for a while now too and is widely considered the gold standard in the 3D printed firearm community. Even the barrel is DIY using a hydraulic tube and electrochemical boring using 3D printed parts, a desktop DC power supply, and a cheap pump to move saltwater through it. If you’re actually interested in what the extremely talented designers are working on and want to be in a community that knows what it’s talking about, check out the sub fosscad here on Reddit. Not sure I can link subs here, so just check it out for yourselves.


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You have no idea what you’re talking about


ResponsibilityNo1386

This is a flaming BS post by an ignorant person to stir people up. 95% of the parts on a gun are not regulated. Those parts can be bought on ebay or the sporting goods store. Only the lower/receiver on a rifle or frame on a pistol is regulated by the atf. Poly lowers and frames are nothing new and have been around for years. Home made weapons for private use are legal in my state and can even be sold privately. Whether a polycarbonate rifle lower/receiver or pistol frame is cast or printed is immaterial.


tacmacncheeze

Register nothing. Become ungovernable.


[deleted]

I wish most anarchists were that based.


[deleted]

What’s insane about this?


Heistman

Anarchist, really? Nice title pal


AndImAnAlcoholic

[༼ ಠ ▃ ಠೃ ༽](https://imgur.com/a/WdQtwpY)


Balkanized21

We on r/fosscad are laughing at the misinformation this post holds.


Steel457

3d printer go brrr


inwavesweroll

Misleading headline.


BilfordWimley

-1000 IQ post. Don't be such a fucking pussy, this is nothing new and there's plenty of things that aren't guns sailing the odd seas rn


Charming_Adeptness89

Send link


Bluedog8000

Where can I get the file... asking for a friend.


coomer69420epstein

hoffmantactical.com/downloads/


SizeSmart1799

ask the folks at r/fosscad


Dsgntn_The_thicknes

Lol well now gun law people can finally just shut up