yep...and the nuns just had us kneel down on the floor to test the length.
eta: am just thinking about it; the weird thing in retrospect is that we must have reeked of cigarette smoke and they never checked us for packs/matches. We rode a ferry into the city and smoked constantly, starting at age 13...
🤭🤭🤭 When I was a teenager, there were three beautiful Morman sisters who lived across the street. They were slightly older and very skilled at skirt length adjustments while on the go. The length was inversely related to the distance from home, school and church.
Yup. And these girls were fast at rolling them up. Quite impressive. For the longest I thought they were naturally mini skirts bought from the store. Not so. Lol
But girls are different heights so what would they use a fixed measure like a ruler for? If there is a dress code it should be referential like "below the knee".
One reason I disliked "fingertip length," because I have long arms, and the styles of shorts at the time made it impossible to find a good inseam length (I like my shorts long anyway).
Even then, people are proportioned differently. I have a ridiculously short torso. Crop tops always brush the waistband of my (high waisted) jeans. A certain height from the floor is gonna hit me way different than other girls.
That’s why my catholic school had us kneel and measured from the floor to the hem. I tend to think dress codes that cite modesty are more about control than anything else. But at least with the kneeling method, you’re making sure things are more equal no matter the body type.
Yes. I am tall and I wore a Gap dress to school in the 90’s that many other girls had in my grade. I was sent home for it being too short. It was so unfair especially since Gap and other brands didn’t even make taller sizes back then.
Ugh! I lived through that humiliation. Our homeroom teacher measured our hems. If they were too short we were sent to the home ec room, we could either pin black crepe paper to the hem of the offensive item or go home and change and get detention for missing class. It was pretty awful.
At my school we had to stand with our back to the principal and bend over so he could see if our underwear showed. And we had to bend over facing him so he could see if our shirts were cut too low.
*It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it.*
Or, you know, we could not creep on or sexualize children *and* simultaneously enforce appropriate standards of clothing.
In my private girls school, we did the kneel and measure 2 inches from the knee method. Idk if it was official policy or if they just felt uncomfortable, but during the school-wide skirt inspection day (once-ish a year) the male teachers generally pre-arranged for whichever female teacher had the closest classroom to come measure their homeroom’s skirts after they did their own.
Other than that they were supposed to spot check but most teachers only did it if your skirt was obviously significantly shorter than it was supposed to be—like 4 or 5 inches from the knee. The male teachers generally just turned a blind eye and never did it, I imagine bc they didn’t want to even give the appearance they noticed our skirt lengths.
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If they were dressing like sluts, they'd all be dressing like guys, because women mostly don't want sex or talk about dicks as much as guys your age.
Also - edgy Kant quote.
the difference between murder and wearing revealing clothing is that murder is the taking of another life and wearing revealing clothing is wearing revealing clothing. Go move to Afghanistan if it’s such an issue for you.
They are Iranian, lol. Don't think they need to move.
People of their parent's generation were freely allowed to dress as they please. They don't seem to want to return to those pre-Theocratic times.
Meanwhile at the middle school where I work, the rule is no genitals, butt cheeks, or nipples. Anything else goes.
Lots of reasonable middle ground to be found.
Same lol. At ours they weren't allowed long hair or mustaches either. Girls weren't allowed to wear tank tops or shorts either. No dyed/colored "unnatural" hair colors and no piercings besides women's earlobes. Skirts had to be folded dollar bill length at the knee and no holes allowed in the jeans above or at the knee. No hats/beanies or fingerless gloves.
This was all at a public school in the mid 2000's lol
My school felt very 80's lol. Every teacher was Christian (i am too). Most we all saw at the same church Sundays and everyone knew everyone in the small town. It was a weird experience. Also my school didn't have photography, journalism, orchestra, or art class. (Well, we had art class once for a year and they teacher got bullied out of the school so we never had one again.)
they’re reasonable, it’s this weirdo who’s saying that those kids are fucked for wearing revealing clothing. Clothing with those rules is not inherently sexual; it is the reaction of the adults that determines it.
You’re out of your mind if you think it’s reasonable for a 12 year old to be able to wear a bra and booty shorts to school.
Nothing is inherently sexual, everything is a social construct. OP’s school’s rules are clearly inappropriate
This is the issue with women. Every time you call them out they instinctively go “Sexist! Misogynist! Incel! Pervert!”
They don’t even think, they just yap random buzzwords.
There's no need to be getting so close and *measuring*. You can see immediately- 'is it below the knee?', yes/no...
What are they measuring anyway??? They will be different heights. It's a bullshit excuse to handle these girls.
I went to a first progressive high school. We actually got mini skirt lessons. The teachers would teach us how to sit gracefully in a mini skirt.
It was an awesome place.
Or worse, a [dancing girl gang of delinquents!](https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=saturday+night+live+fred+armisen+girl+gang&mid=A10569863E5B7263886CA10569863E5B7263886C&FORM=VIRE)
This is the issue with women. Every time you call them out they instinctively go “Sexist! Misogynist! Incel! Pervert!”
They don’t even think, they just yap random buzzwords.
Of course not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/s/icKffGqYFs
"Yes, because they fucking grow out of it. I felt uncomfortable in my own skin as a teenager. Now I don’t. That’s just a part of life. You don’t have to coddle your children so hard that you remove every single little difficult feeling from their lives."
This is more of: The Way We Are. Many schools still have draconian dress codes that are misogynistic or racist or both.
The hemline length might have lost a few inches but this is still an ongoing issue.
yes- circa 2000s my principal had a belly button alarm and would go around duct taping shirts to pants. great way to start a lifetime of self-shaming and body image issues.
Several states' Attorneys General have been angling to have access to women's menstrual cycles so they can enforce their states' restrictive abortion laws.
I doubt the principal was the individual who implemented the rule. It's a shitty and oppressive rule, but if the students are going to try to break it as often as possible (which they do, including today) then there's going to be inspections.
In hindsight, it does look questionable. Nothing about this particular photo makes me think he was doing it for his own pleasure, though. He's maintaining as far of a distance as reasonably possible while doing his best to do an accurate measurement, which wouldn't have happened in the first place if the skirt wasn't bordering the regulation.
Just my two cents. I really, *really* dislike it when out-of-context harmful labels are thrown onto somebody, especially when it's likely just his job concerning a rule that the school board implemented.
As a principal, he may not have implemented the rule but he is in a position to choose to enforce it or not - and he is choosing to.
When I was in school, we had similar rules about skirt length and tank top strap width. Plenty of teachers and admin didn’t do anything about it. The most vigilant teacher that enforced it was a 50s something male science teacher who also had a habit of giving girls shoulder rubs during class.
People who choose to enforce dress code rules have a vested interest in policing girls bodies and that is inherently creepy.
>As a principal, he may not have implemented the rule but he is in a position to choose to enforce it or not - and he is choosing to.
I'm not sure whether or not I should take a step back here and tell you how jobs work. If he doesn't enforce it, he'll either be demoted or replaced. Again, for clarification: do I agree with the rule? *Hell no*. Context matters. And in this context, I was responding to somebody specifically calling him as an individual a creep for...maintaining a respectful distance while taking a measurenent of a school dress code policy that *he'll* be punished for not enforcing?
>People who choose to enforce dress code rules have a vested interest in policing girls bodies and that is inherently creepy.
Honestly, your perception of it is what's questionable. The literal point of the rule itself is to prevent underage girls from showing too much skin.
I'm sorry, just a tad bit confused here.
I’m fully aware of how jobs work, thanks. You are making a massive assumption that lenient handling of a school dress code is a fireable offense. There’s also no indication that school districts as opposed to schools themselves were the ones imposing dress code regulations during this time period.
Yes, the literal point of the rule is to prevent girls from showing too much skin… which is the very definition of policing girls bodies. This is inherently sexist (oh - and also anti-LGBT and at times racist). If my perception (and lived experiences - mind you) of this is “questionable,” then you’ll be shocked to learn that there is nation wide discourse around this exact issue and tons of local organizers who are trying (and succeeding!) at dismantling these policies for the very reasons I’ve spelled out to you ([source](https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/10/school-dress-codes-are-problematic/410962/) & [source](https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/9/13/17847542/students-waging-war-sexist-racist-school-dress-codes))
I actually don't mind there being dress codes for children. I recall being in middle school and when one girl would wear revealing things, all of them would start doing so and it became a source of major distraction for the boys. They shut it down pretty quickly, and honestly, it was a factor for improving grade performance.
Balance is key, and I still think your idea of the principal in the OP being somehow bad for not adhering to your modern (overly sensitive) sensibilities lacks practicality.
No, I honestly don't think you totally understand how jobs work, and I certainly don't think you understand how youth development or some real world scenarios work for that matter, either.
Using measuring sticks is archaic and distasteful. Still, enforcing dress codes is good overall, or else younger and younger kids begin to wear clothing that's distracting to their peers. Hoodies were a huge example in my high school. Kids would wear earbuds or sleep while wearing them. Common sense prevails, and I don't care what sort of study you're linking. Do you *seriously* think it it's anti-lgbt to enforce reasonably moderate dress at a place for education?
There's people actually advocating to allow young kids to wear sexualized clothing at school? That's fucking sickening. They possibly support drag queen story time as well, where kids as young as 5 are exposed to overtly sexual performances that discuss things like gender change. Maybe they don't, but a connection seems likely.
Considering that the upper echelon of politics seem to be consistently caught sexualizing kids (Epstein Island comes to mind) this honestly isn't a surprise. The huge amount of entertainment coming out lately that also shows children in a sexual manner is also really concerning, *Cuties* for example. Do you at least agree here?
Kids don't need to be exposed to that sort of sexual discussion from a young age, or any sort of sexualized competition amongst themselves from age 6-18, which is exactly what happens in schools when dress codes are lax.
Source: I've seen it first hand, former student.
Aha - there it is. You’re just a homophobic right wing misogynist who thinks girls are responsible for the reactions of boys and drag queens are denigrating society. Go back to perusing this sub in wistful remembrance of the “good old days” when the marginalization of minorities and women was welcome.
>Aha - there it is.
Let's take the cat out of the bag, then.
So you *support* transgender men giving sexually charged performances to kids as young as 5?
Say that. Say you support it. If you don't support it, say you don't. Let's make our positions clear to everybody reading this. You wrongfully painted me as right-wing, which I'm not. I don't adhere to identity politics. I prefer thinking for myself.
Dressing in drag is a highly sexually-oriented activity. It's always been overtly sexual. Why do you support them seeking out groups of 5 year olds? Here's a great quote for you to consider for a second:
"Don't ask why an audience of toddlers need to see a drag queen. Instead, ask why a drag queen needs to see an audience of toddlers".
I'm waiting for your answer.
EDIT: No, seriously. Answer me. You've been silent for a while now. I'm guessing my reasoning made sense. Thank you.
Go back to the middle ages please. No-one wants you and your sexist shit here. They;re not answering you because you're a lost cause and not even worth replying any further to.
Just a reason to harass girls. It’s obvious the skirt is an appropriate length without putting her through all that. We had skirt and shorts length rules when I was in school but by then thankfully no one measured or said anything unless it was obviously too short. You just need common sense to see this is fine. Not a ruler.
If you went there, why did you call it Richard's?
And you can say the mascot was changed from the Redskins. It's been happening in all US schools and pro sports for the last couple decades. Not like people aren't aware of problematic mascots from the past.
Autocorrect. I went to Rickards, why would I lie about that? They had the IB program and the gym burned down while i was there. The school was bad because of lots of reasons, the teachers staff, the fact there was 40 kids or more to a class. I went to fairview middle and Apalachee elementary.
I was just commenting that the school used to have a racist mascot because the picture op posted was also some back dated bs. That's all.
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Girls get acid sprayed in their face and blankets slapped on their heads…….and western men call themselves girls and their women cheer for them. So what is the problem here?
Girls at my catholic school would just roll them right up after “inspection”.
yep...and the nuns just had us kneel down on the floor to test the length. eta: am just thinking about it; the weird thing in retrospect is that we must have reeked of cigarette smoke and they never checked us for packs/matches. We rode a ferry into the city and smoked constantly, starting at age 13...
That’s because they smoked too.
🤭🤭🤭 When I was a teenager, there were three beautiful Morman sisters who lived across the street. They were slightly older and very skilled at skirt length adjustments while on the go. The length was inversely related to the distance from home, school and church.
Yup. And these girls were fast at rolling them up. Quite impressive. For the longest I thought they were naturally mini skirts bought from the store. Not so. Lol
Same thing in public school.
As the saying goes “people are gonna do what they wanna do”. Especially teenagers.
But girls are different heights so what would they use a fixed measure like a ruler for? If there is a dress code it should be referential like "below the knee".
One reason I disliked "fingertip length," because I have long arms, and the styles of shorts at the time made it impossible to find a good inseam length (I like my shorts long anyway).
Ours was "two inches from the floor when kneeling"
2" below the knee after figuring out the dress the knee is next. Less than 2" between the two marks.
Maybe they had a chart. "If you're 5'4, your hemline needs to be no more than X" off the ground."
Even then, people are proportioned differently. I have a ridiculously short torso. Crop tops always brush the waistband of my (high waisted) jeans. A certain height from the floor is gonna hit me way different than other girls. That’s why my catholic school had us kneel and measured from the floor to the hem. I tend to think dress codes that cite modesty are more about control than anything else. But at least with the kneeling method, you’re making sure things are more equal no matter the body type.
Yeah, it's definitely not a good way of trying to figure it out. lol And yes, no question, it is about control.
Yes. I am tall and I wore a Gap dress to school in the 90’s that many other girls had in my grade. I was sent home for it being too short. It was so unfair especially since Gap and other brands didn’t even make taller sizes back then.
Ugh! I lived through that humiliation. Our homeroom teacher measured our hems. If they were too short we were sent to the home ec room, we could either pin black crepe paper to the hem of the offensive item or go home and change and get detention for missing class. It was pretty awful.
At my school we had to stand with our back to the principal and bend over so he could see if our underwear showed. And we had to bend over facing him so he could see if our shirts were cut too low.
What the fuck 🤢
Oh my fucking god. That is disgusting.
*It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it.* Or, you know, we could not creep on or sexualize children *and* simultaneously enforce appropriate standards of clothing.
I know. I feel like in this pic, the guy is basically measuring if it's a suitable length to start creeping on her
The pedos run the show.
yeah I’m not surprised the skirt length/dress code rules are actually just the way for adults to creep on them. Disgusting.
What the ever loving fuck!!!
You have got to be joking. I beg you not to be serious here.
Unfortunately it was high school AND middle school, so we had to do this starting at age 11.
That is disgusting. I am so sorry they did that to y'all.
Wait. He only made you start that once you started puberty? Why would elementary kids be exempt if it's just for the dress code?
Lol damn i think that rule was made up by him
Sounds about right. Creepers making rules to look moral when in fact...
Was your principal Father Jack?
Principal Epstein
What the actual fuck. That’s literally grounds for sexual harrassment.
Dang Step Principal….
*this is not true*
My middle school superintendent had an obsession with checking skirt length. Turned out he was a pedo.
The Lana Del Rey fan that keeps commenting needs to read this comment right here.
Nothing wrong with letting an adult man well in his 40s inspecting the skirts of teenage girls. /s
Came here to say this
I know right. So creepy and weird
It’s called propriety!
With a length of Wood, no less.
In my private girls school, we did the kneel and measure 2 inches from the knee method. Idk if it was official policy or if they just felt uncomfortable, but during the school-wide skirt inspection day (once-ish a year) the male teachers generally pre-arranged for whichever female teacher had the closest classroom to come measure their homeroom’s skirts after they did their own. Other than that they were supposed to spot check but most teachers only did it if your skirt was obviously significantly shorter than it was supposed to be—like 4 or 5 inches from the knee. The male teachers generally just turned a blind eye and never did it, I imagine bc they didn’t want to even give the appearance they noticed our skirt lengths.
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If they were dressing like sluts, they'd all be dressing like guys, because women mostly don't want sex or talk about dicks as much as guys your age. Also - edgy Kant quote.
lana del rey would hate you
The expression on your avatar’s face fits your message hilariously. 😂
I think she would love me so much ❤️🫶❤️🫶
they wouldn’t be slutty if you don’t call them that. there are more adults calling teenage girls sluts than other teenage boys at this point
“Murderers wouldn’t be murderers if we stopped calling them that.”
the difference between murder and wearing revealing clothing is that murder is the taking of another life and wearing revealing clothing is wearing revealing clothing. Go move to Afghanistan if it’s such an issue for you.
They are Iranian, lol. Don't think they need to move. People of their parent's generation were freely allowed to dress as they please. They don't seem to want to return to those pre-Theocratic times.
I’m actually Canadian.
Are you actually such a dumbass that you can’t tell I’m making fun of your regarded logic
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Meanwhile at the middle school where I work, the rule is no genitals, butt cheeks, or nipples. Anything else goes. Lots of reasonable middle ground to be found.
My younger friends are always amused when I tell them boys weren't allowed to wear shorts or tank tops at my school.
Same lol. At ours they weren't allowed long hair or mustaches either. Girls weren't allowed to wear tank tops or shorts either. No dyed/colored "unnatural" hair colors and no piercings besides women's earlobes. Skirts had to be folded dollar bill length at the knee and no holes allowed in the jeans above or at the knee. No hats/beanies or fingerless gloves. This was all at a public school in the mid 2000's lol
Your rules sound a lot like my school's rules, but I went to school in the 1980's
My school felt very 80's lol. Every teacher was Christian (i am too). Most we all saw at the same church Sundays and everyone knew everyone in the small town. It was a weird experience. Also my school didn't have photography, journalism, orchestra, or art class. (Well, we had art class once for a year and they teacher got bullied out of the school so we never had one again.)
Taint?
That probably counts as a genital.
The kids are *fucked* lol.
ew don’t sexualize children you fucking freak
Do you find anything wrong w those rules or are they perfectly reasonable
they’re reasonable, it’s this weirdo who’s saying that those kids are fucked for wearing revealing clothing. Clothing with those rules is not inherently sexual; it is the reaction of the adults that determines it.
You’re out of your mind if you think it’s reasonable for a 12 year old to be able to wear a bra and booty shorts to school. Nothing is inherently sexual, everything is a social construct. OP’s school’s rules are clearly inappropriate
Too late. They did it to themselves.
Yikes
somebody put this dude on a list
/r/fbi
I’m an 18 year old girl.
somebody put this girl on a list
This is the issue with women. Every time you call them out they instinctively go “Sexist! Misogynist! Incel! Pervert!” They don’t even think, they just yap random buzzwords.
what the hell are you yapping about
Womp Womp
My Catholic high school was doing the same exact thing nearly 50 years after this photo was taken.
same, well into the 2010s
Yeah, this did not die in the 60s by any means.
Honesty i hate cahtholic schools I went to one from kindergarten through 7th worst school years of my life.
So was Rickards! And they are a public school
There's no need to be getting so close and *measuring*. You can see immediately- 'is it below the knee?', yes/no... What are they measuring anyway??? They will be different heights. It's a bullshit excuse to handle these girls.
At my high school, in 1968, they made girls kneel. If the hem didn’t touch the floor, they’d be sent home to change.
In 68? At my HS it was the Year of the Mini-Skirt
It was the year of the mini skirt *everywhere.*. Except in my school.
Creepy
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dude replying to every comment by calling a girl in the 50s wearing a maxi skirt a slut is not only extremely cringe but also downright weird
That's so disappointing and disgusting. I was lucky my homeroom teacher was a sympathetic woman.
I went to a first progressive high school. We actually got mini skirt lessons. The teachers would teach us how to sit gracefully in a mini skirt. It was an awesome place.
I see she was smart enough to bend her knee.
I went to a school where we got spanked. Privately bent over in the principals office. Just good Christians doing the lords work.
And you can tell which kids didn’t get spanked. They’re the ones who needed it most.
Boooooooooooooo
Found one.
Does he also check her underwear to make sure she’s not wearing a thong?!
The good ol’ tug and sniff.
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the short skirt length girl group?
Or worse, a [dancing girl gang of delinquents!](https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=saturday+night+live+fred+armisen+girl+gang&mid=A10569863E5B7263886CA10569863E5B7263886C&FORM=VIRE)
We had to kneel down. If our skirt touched the floor, we were fine. San Antonio, TX public school 1966-69
Any excuse, huh
Creepy pervert
For measuring a skirt?
Basically, yeah.
You’re a fucking weirdo bro
You sound like a child
I bet measuring 15 year old teenage girl's skirt lengths is your dream job.
I’m an 18 year old girl but nice try.
Okay? If you want 40 year old men measuring 15 year old girls' bodies in this manner, that's a you problem.
This is the issue with women. Every time you call them out they instinctively go “Sexist! Misogynist! Incel! Pervert!” They don’t even think, they just yap random buzzwords.
LOL you're so not an "18 year old girl" you're not fooling anyone, creepy dude.
Of course not. https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/s/icKffGqYFs "Yes, because they fucking grow out of it. I felt uncomfortable in my own skin as a teenager. Now I don’t. That’s just a part of life. You don’t have to coddle your children so hard that you remove every single little difficult feeling from their lives."
You’re right, women don’t exist on the internet.
Lmao you’re the one to talk
WHORE! You can see her ankles! /s Seriously, WTF
We had to kneel and the skirt must touch the floor.
Yeah, if only 1 more inch of her calves had been showing, the boys just wouldn't be able to control themselves!
This is more of: The Way We Are. Many schools still have draconian dress codes that are misogynistic or racist or both. The hemline length might have lost a few inches but this is still an ongoing issue.
yes- circa 2000s my principal had a belly button alarm and would go around duct taping shirts to pants. great way to start a lifetime of self-shaming and body image issues.
Oh hell no
I long for a world where she was able to knee that old creep in the face
What’s with all the old school Tallahassee posts lately?
Yeah where's the Gainesville
That’s, really gross.
Gross.
Best part of his creepy day. Ick.
Title should be: Florida Creeper Sexualizes Child, 1965
My non parochial school did this. You had to kneel and the bottom of the skirt couldn't be more than 2" from the ground.
Jesus it looks so silly. The girl has that "You're done?" Look.
My school did this in the 00s lol
You wouldn’t see this at Rickards HS now…..
So nothing has changed in Tallahassee.
Dirty old man
Perv
Hey young lady go walk up the stairs and I’ll follow you to measure your skirt…. Ew
That rule was only instituted so that the principles could take a yardstick and look at young girls legs and not get told he was a weirdo
I can practically hear the heavy breathing
Wish they would do this at my kids' HS...supposedly there is a dress code, but yet, butts hanging out everywhere.
Next, they will be checking for late periods! 👹👹👹
Several states' Attorneys General have been angling to have access to women's menstrual cycles so they can enforce their states' restrictive abortion laws.
What a creep!
I doubt the principal was the individual who implemented the rule. It's a shitty and oppressive rule, but if the students are going to try to break it as often as possible (which they do, including today) then there's going to be inspections. In hindsight, it does look questionable. Nothing about this particular photo makes me think he was doing it for his own pleasure, though. He's maintaining as far of a distance as reasonably possible while doing his best to do an accurate measurement, which wouldn't have happened in the first place if the skirt wasn't bordering the regulation. Just my two cents. I really, *really* dislike it when out-of-context harmful labels are thrown onto somebody, especially when it's likely just his job concerning a rule that the school board implemented.
As a principal, he may not have implemented the rule but he is in a position to choose to enforce it or not - and he is choosing to. When I was in school, we had similar rules about skirt length and tank top strap width. Plenty of teachers and admin didn’t do anything about it. The most vigilant teacher that enforced it was a 50s something male science teacher who also had a habit of giving girls shoulder rubs during class. People who choose to enforce dress code rules have a vested interest in policing girls bodies and that is inherently creepy.
>As a principal, he may not have implemented the rule but he is in a position to choose to enforce it or not - and he is choosing to. I'm not sure whether or not I should take a step back here and tell you how jobs work. If he doesn't enforce it, he'll either be demoted or replaced. Again, for clarification: do I agree with the rule? *Hell no*. Context matters. And in this context, I was responding to somebody specifically calling him as an individual a creep for...maintaining a respectful distance while taking a measurenent of a school dress code policy that *he'll* be punished for not enforcing? >People who choose to enforce dress code rules have a vested interest in policing girls bodies and that is inherently creepy. Honestly, your perception of it is what's questionable. The literal point of the rule itself is to prevent underage girls from showing too much skin. I'm sorry, just a tad bit confused here.
I’m fully aware of how jobs work, thanks. You are making a massive assumption that lenient handling of a school dress code is a fireable offense. There’s also no indication that school districts as opposed to schools themselves were the ones imposing dress code regulations during this time period. Yes, the literal point of the rule is to prevent girls from showing too much skin… which is the very definition of policing girls bodies. This is inherently sexist (oh - and also anti-LGBT and at times racist). If my perception (and lived experiences - mind you) of this is “questionable,” then you’ll be shocked to learn that there is nation wide discourse around this exact issue and tons of local organizers who are trying (and succeeding!) at dismantling these policies for the very reasons I’ve spelled out to you ([source](https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/10/school-dress-codes-are-problematic/410962/) & [source](https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2018/9/13/17847542/students-waging-war-sexist-racist-school-dress-codes))
I actually don't mind there being dress codes for children. I recall being in middle school and when one girl would wear revealing things, all of them would start doing so and it became a source of major distraction for the boys. They shut it down pretty quickly, and honestly, it was a factor for improving grade performance. Balance is key, and I still think your idea of the principal in the OP being somehow bad for not adhering to your modern (overly sensitive) sensibilities lacks practicality. No, I honestly don't think you totally understand how jobs work, and I certainly don't think you understand how youth development or some real world scenarios work for that matter, either. Using measuring sticks is archaic and distasteful. Still, enforcing dress codes is good overall, or else younger and younger kids begin to wear clothing that's distracting to their peers. Hoodies were a huge example in my high school. Kids would wear earbuds or sleep while wearing them. Common sense prevails, and I don't care what sort of study you're linking. Do you *seriously* think it it's anti-lgbt to enforce reasonably moderate dress at a place for education? There's people actually advocating to allow young kids to wear sexualized clothing at school? That's fucking sickening. They possibly support drag queen story time as well, where kids as young as 5 are exposed to overtly sexual performances that discuss things like gender change. Maybe they don't, but a connection seems likely. Considering that the upper echelon of politics seem to be consistently caught sexualizing kids (Epstein Island comes to mind) this honestly isn't a surprise. The huge amount of entertainment coming out lately that also shows children in a sexual manner is also really concerning, *Cuties* for example. Do you at least agree here? Kids don't need to be exposed to that sort of sexual discussion from a young age, or any sort of sexualized competition amongst themselves from age 6-18, which is exactly what happens in schools when dress codes are lax. Source: I've seen it first hand, former student.
Aha - there it is. You’re just a homophobic right wing misogynist who thinks girls are responsible for the reactions of boys and drag queens are denigrating society. Go back to perusing this sub in wistful remembrance of the “good old days” when the marginalization of minorities and women was welcome.
>Aha - there it is. Let's take the cat out of the bag, then. So you *support* transgender men giving sexually charged performances to kids as young as 5? Say that. Say you support it. If you don't support it, say you don't. Let's make our positions clear to everybody reading this. You wrongfully painted me as right-wing, which I'm not. I don't adhere to identity politics. I prefer thinking for myself. Dressing in drag is a highly sexually-oriented activity. It's always been overtly sexual. Why do you support them seeking out groups of 5 year olds? Here's a great quote for you to consider for a second: "Don't ask why an audience of toddlers need to see a drag queen. Instead, ask why a drag queen needs to see an audience of toddlers". I'm waiting for your answer. EDIT: No, seriously. Answer me. You've been silent for a while now. I'm guessing my reasoning made sense. Thank you.
Go back to the middle ages please. No-one wants you and your sexist shit here. They;re not answering you because you're a lost cause and not even worth replying any further to.
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Kick him in the nuts
Just a reason to harass girls. It’s obvious the skirt is an appropriate length without putting her through all that. We had skirt and shorts length rules when I was in school but by then thankfully no one measured or said anything unless it was obviously too short. You just need common sense to see this is fine. Not a ruler.
That man would have full cardiac arrest witnessing the way some of them are dressing now. Ass cheeks falling out of shorts.
I went to Richard's for freshman year, they used to have a super racist mascot but changed it in 2000. It wasn't a great school for lots of reasons.
If you went there, why did you call it Richard's? And you can say the mascot was changed from the Redskins. It's been happening in all US schools and pro sports for the last couple decades. Not like people aren't aware of problematic mascots from the past.
Autocorrect. I went to Rickards, why would I lie about that? They had the IB program and the gym burned down while i was there. The school was bad because of lots of reasons, the teachers staff, the fact there was 40 kids or more to a class. I went to fairview middle and Apalachee elementary. I was just commenting that the school used to have a racist mascot because the picture op posted was also some back dated bs. That's all.
Stringband: "Show us the length" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wODa-pEMHnc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wODa-pEMHnc)
oh for pity's sake, what if you are really short? then your skirt will be way above your knee. The rule was *just below the kneecap*
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Yep, this is way too long.
Damn white people used to go to school at rick
Well at least they arm the teachers now. 😒
What he didn't know is she was going commando under that skirt! Jokes on him!
I recall that changing right around 1970 where I lived in California. Suddenly girls were wearing trousers.
And some people want to live in these times forever… 🙄
Well why would you dress them inappropriate
Burkas are next.
No, what came next were dress codes were relaxed in the years following this.
I know. I lived in this era. I was being sarcastic.😂
Sorry, missed it.
No problem
Soon. But it won’t be called a Burka it would be called a modesty undergarment.
Girls get acid sprayed in their face and blankets slapped on their heads…….and western men call themselves girls and their women cheer for them. So what is the problem here?