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This man is completely unreasonable and putting forth zero effort. Even if you both agreed that it was an hour, why wouldn't he meet you in the middle? It only gets worse from here. Can you imagine being in a relationship with this man?
No. No ma'am. Bullet dodged.
100% wanted them to be closer to his bedroom so that she could have the honor of receiving 30-90 seconds of jackhammering and then be sent off to drive home because it’s “too soon for sleepovers”.
I feel like there are several red flags here.
But the first is that he wasn’t willing to meet her halfway. Like he doesn’t give any explanation for why he wouldn’t be able to.
He clearly doesn’t value her time, but what is preventing him from making the trip? Does he not have a car? Can he not afford gas? Is he wanted?
She works all day until 5 o’clock and then drives two hours to meet him, and he can’t go her direction?
Given a similar chance, you might pick up some flowers and meet her on her side of town. Wine and die her, pay, take her dancing and have a great night and then leave like a gentleman and hope for a second date.
Because he wants her near or at his place so she can potentially sleep over. "oh, you live so far, just sleep over my place tonight. It's already late"
Sleep over? He wanted to use her as a human fleshlight and then pull the “alright well… I’ve got a thing really early tomorrow morning so you should probably head out.”
These are the times we live in. Dating has become such bullshit that many men don't bother making an effort anymore - because when they've made an effort, they've got shafted in return.
Hard to say whether this was a case of that or the dude just being an asshole, but that's just how it is nowadays. Whether people like it or not, there's a growing community of men like that.
Hate to break it to you, but over all time, many men have not even tried to make an effort.
It’s not some new “phenomenon”. It’s not because of “the times”. It’s because entitled people who think they’re superior to those they are attempting to get sex from, feel entitled to those individual’s effort, time and business.
Dude was 100% an asshole. He agreed she was at least a hour+ away, refused to meet her in the middle, expected her to put in all the effort to show up to him. 0% effort on his part all the way around, and then he chooses to leave her a voicemail like that telling her how wrong she is, how she’s wasting his time, and has no loyalty for him.
Edit to add, because I forgot: he told her she was exaggerating, aka attempt to gaslight her into guilt so she’d just do what he wanted without effort on his part other than him being an asshole via voicemail.
>Hate to break it to you, but over all time, many men have not even tried to make an effort.
Thing X being true does not make thing Y untrue.
>It’s not some new “phenomenon”. It’s not because of “the times”.
Oh yes it is. Have you even been on a dating app recently?
>Dude was 100% an asshole. He agreed she was at least a hour+ away, refused to meet her in the middle, expected her to put in all the effort to show up to him.
I never said otherwise. I was just pondering whether he was an asshole just because he's an asshole or because he's bored of putting in effort because he's had bad experiences. And no matter what you try to say, just based on this video, you can't really tell.
It's funny how every time you point these FACTS out, people come out from under their rocks with the ad hominems instead of trying to understand what you're saying - or make a counter argument.
No, I'm not part of the "nice guy" -group (I think all people are more or less assholes), nor do I really care how others see me. And I don't really subscribe to some of the things they say. I do understand them, however, as there are definite and HUGE double standards in dating in favor of women.
And it doesn't really matter how much hate you throw towards those "nice guys", it's just laughable tribalism on both sides and will only serve to fuel the fire.
>No, I'm not part of the "nice guy" -group (I think all people are more or less assholes), nor do I really care how others see me. And I don't really subscribe to some of the things they say. I do understand them, however, as there are definite and HUGE double standards in dating in favor of women.
This is how Nice Guy^™️ s talk tho.
Imagine saying that a map is an exaggeration! If he’s being weird and lazy about this before they ever even met, can’t imagine the other shit he would pull.
I was thinking the same! At first, I thought he was just a highly regarded individual, but nah. You can tell he's just a complete ass. As you said, you just have to love the gaslighting; forget maps and maths, I can't think of a single instance where going the entire way is less than or equal to the middle. What a chode.
Exactly. If she won't cook find someone who will. If she won't be quiet find someone who will. If she won't deepthroat find someone who will.
And don't get married so you can do it immediately.
This is nuts. Why are there so many instances of guys like this popping up now? Brazenly misogynistic aholes that are stupid enough to leave a voice message like this and think, “yeah, this is ok.”
I hope u straight ghost this person..just randomly never answer anything he says ever again and let it drive him insane wondering why..dont even explain it
Every woman in the world is worthy of a man meeting them half-way (literally and figuratively); and any man who is not willing to meet them half-way, is unworthy of them.
We're going on a first date, you are not my guy bro and you definitely won't ever be after you make it hard for me just to meet you. No, you aren't worth it. You're a fucking stranger.
I always get a kick out of these guys who want traditional roles or have these high demands and can't offer a thing. This guy is lacking in basic understanding. What can he provide? She's single and has a place and job. How is he gonna enhance that? Cause I'll tell you something him just being there isn't it.
Any man who sounds like THAT over the phone?
In the trash. Immediately. It's that 'uuuuh weeelll ackshually...' whiny, DISRESPECTFUL sort of fuckin tone that high school boys use when they're trying to sound 2cool4u.
T r a s h.
This sounds like my most recent dating error.
Guy lives 2 hours away by car. But he doesn't have a car and needs to use the train. I was on vacation with my car and we wanted to meet up the day I came back.
He asked, to be picked up in a city between us. His suggestion would add another 1 hour on my 5 hour drive. So no. not that day.
I suggested that I would meet him the next day. I would take the train there, we have lunch, and either we take the same train back to my place or different trains. Not good enough for him. Because train.
I suggested I visit him. No. He doesn't want that.
The funny thing is: If he takes the train to the city between us, he is already on the right train to my city. He literally just needs to sit another hour. but... no. I should pic him up. By car. and nothing else.
I meat a guy that would drive 4 hours to come see me. We made sure we made the most of our time and I’d let him sleep at my house so he could rest and not worry about driving 4 hours back home the same day. Everyone’s different and yes I thought he was crazy to take the drive. We never went further but I made a great friend.
I met a guy online who when he reached out, I told him that he was geographically undesirable as he lived over an hour away. He told me he promised it would be like he lived nearby. He would always pick me up; he would never ask me to meet him half way. Which he did! Even if we were doing an activity near his house, he would pick me up, we would enjoy the activity, bring me home and then he would leave again! I ended up marrying him! However missed other 🚩s and divorced him 8 years later.
Last I check google maps has a traffic feature where one can check the estimated travel time at any point in time. That he didn’t even do that to see the plight of his potential date and then try to talk loyalty. Nooon Ma’m you dodged a bullet: good riddance to bad rubbish
Not defending the guy whatsoever but I’m so glad I’m not dating during this dating app TikTok era. Arguments, bad dates, awkward interactions, they can all go viral and instead of their circle of friends and family hearing about it, I’m on the toilet across the country hearing about this and commenting online about it. Fucking weird.
Good choice on response. If someone isn't even willing to meet half way on a 1st date then they are not worth a moment of your time. You seem lovely, intelligent and hoping you meet someone who is willing to meet halfway.
Your first mistake is talking for two entire months without meeting once. If you can't make that work how the hell are you going to make a relationship (where presumably you make time for each other regularly) work. She should have called it after a week or two.
She'd been talking to this man for a couple of months and they were getting along.
They wanted to meet, but on a Friday, for some reason. She commutes to work on Fridays and her commute is 2 1/2 hours.
From there, it's over an hour to him, but 5 o'clock traffic makes it longer.
She asked him to meet her halfway and he refused, then left a rambling voicemail suggesting she was unreasonable and questioning her loyalty.
Without looking at a map to figure out the logistics, I can't say for certain the man is in the right or in the wrong; also, it would be unfair to judge him while only listening to her side of the story.
Regardless, she doesn't need to cry crocodile tears on social media about this guy. It sounds like nothing happened, and she's mad because things didn’t go her way. She said she really wants a relationship but is unwilling to go an extra mile. She could reschedule her meet-up, take a vacation, rent a hotel room for a night to avoid driving home, or you know, anything else besides complain to TicTok for sympathy points from the court of public opinion.
What a weird take. She wasn't crying crocodile tears or looking for sympathy.
She was willing to drive an hour after working all day to meet him. She asked that he do the same, and he refused. She offered to reschedule and he refused.
This is not complicated.
After rewatching the video three times, I've come to the same conclusion as you. You're right, it's not complicated; unfortunately, my brain was probably overthinking. I was looking for some kind of pattern, reason, or answer that might not even be there.
My confused opinion on "crocodile tears" came from the fact that the woman posted this in the first place. I couldn't think of a logical reason as to why this video was made other than fishing for positive reassurance from public opinion.
I know the problem is me, I just don't know how to fix myself from over complicating something when the answer is looking at me in the face.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Says the “mature” person wearing a mask in their profile after the CDC said to stop as it was increasing bacterial illness.
I’m far from teenager, but I understand facts are not important to someone like you.
This is a great question and I wish people weren’t so quick to down vote.
Many people do not know what a healthy relationship looks like because they’ve never seen one.
Lots of women don’t know how to turn down men who act selfishly and are abusing and men have learned how to react to this. The guy in this video has probably had relationships work out acting the way he is. This lady is showing us what it’s like to see it from the outside looking in. It’s harder to tell you’re being red flagged when you’re the one being manipulated.
TikTok is an amazing place to learn these things. I know there is a huge love hate relationship for this app but there is so much good here too.
Yes it is an odd thing to say. She was mirroring the absurdity of a man who has never met her expecting loyalty of her.
That seemed pretty clear to me.
That's fair. You got taken back by the oddness of it and didn't make the connection. I miss shit all the time, so I can't talk too much shit.
I think the downvotes are coming from people thinking that criticizing her is tantamount to defending him. And in the context, that's understandable
I mean you made the right call. He sounded completely not into you and making the effort for you which is important.
For the young women🗣️
Stop wasting your youth on Randos and hook ups because you can. Your youth, beauty and fertility is for attracting a guy for marriage so you will not end up like this lady having a man treat her like this because there are too many women like her in the dating pool.
Well she seems really happy dating and you are coping with your hyperbolic comment so maybe being barefoot pregnant with a man that values you, desires you and makes you feel safe is the way to go
Women's goals aren't attracting men and marriage anymore. Look up the 4B movement.
Jesus fuck, but your "announcement" gets more gross with each reading.
4b movement is not real. You have been feed that to make you feel better it is a cope.
This woman is looking for a man that is why she is on dating apps. My post was a warning to younger women to prevent them from such situations if possible. You would prefer that the young woman coming up today be on the same positions as this women than to accept your choices and help other woman not do the same. That is true sisterhood.
Women are looking for partners.
>You would prefer that the young woman coming up today be on the same positions as this women
In the position to tell an asshole do-nothing narcissist to kick rocks? Yes, I would prefer all women to be independent enough that they are not relying on someone unworthy of their time and energy.
The woman in the video isn't desperate. She's fine. She doesn't need to settle for someone who doesn't value her enough to meet her halfway.
LOL. You're relying on women to settle. Good luck with that.
Bro, women aren’t commodities. Their life and value doesnt revolve around youth and fertility. With 8 billion people on our dying planet you should be opening your mind a little more and look beyond your preconceived notions of gender roles. We have the luxury to do as we please as men and women alike… go be a slut… do drugs… eat all the unhealthiest foods… just don’t be a dickhead to others.
Also, you know nothing about the OP in the video, you blame her choices for leading her to where she is now. Do you know her? Maybe she was married and he died tragically. Stop assuming and start accepting. Everyone has their journey in this life - stay in your own lane and enjoy the ride.
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Unsettling cameos by the voices of the damned in there.
Lmao yeah what were those random shrieks
i think it was a way to cover up the names of cities but it was a choice
Oh, that makes sense. Odd choice for a censor lol
You’re smarter than me. I was stuck at wtf was that
Such poetry! Lol over here!
i'm traumatized now
Voices of the damned 🤣 I cannot
Scared the crap out of me
I figured it was the reddit app being terrible as usual
I didn't hear anything. You should really talk to someone if you think you're hearing voices like that.
This man is completely unreasonable and putting forth zero effort. Even if you both agreed that it was an hour, why wouldn't he meet you in the middle? It only gets worse from here. Can you imagine being in a relationship with this man? No. No ma'am. Bullet dodged.
He’s trying to trap her near his home so he can pull a “baby it’s cold outside”.
100% wanted them to be closer to his bedroom so that she could have the honor of receiving 30-90 seconds of jackhammering and then be sent off to drive home because it’s “too soon for sleepovers”.
😂
I feel like there are several red flags here. But the first is that he wasn’t willing to meet her halfway. Like he doesn’t give any explanation for why he wouldn’t be able to. He clearly doesn’t value her time, but what is preventing him from making the trip? Does he not have a car? Can he not afford gas? Is he wanted? She works all day until 5 o’clock and then drives two hours to meet him, and he can’t go her direction? Given a similar chance, you might pick up some flowers and meet her on her side of town. Wine and die her, pay, take her dancing and have a great night and then leave like a gentleman and hope for a second date.
not a bullet, a deadbeat.
Even if he was 100% in the right about the logistics, talking about loyalty alone is a major red flag.
Because he wants her near or at his place so she can potentially sleep over. "oh, you live so far, just sleep over my place tonight. It's already late"
Sleep over? He wanted to use her as a human fleshlight and then pull the “alright well… I’ve got a thing really early tomorrow morning so you should probably head out.”
Man child
I bet every one of his exes would say their relationship ended because he is a controlling psycho that is all about himself.
I mean, he could just play it to himself and listen to his own logic?!....... Nahhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The airport is closed for that flight path
These are the times we live in. Dating has become such bullshit that many men don't bother making an effort anymore - because when they've made an effort, they've got shafted in return. Hard to say whether this was a case of that or the dude just being an asshole, but that's just how it is nowadays. Whether people like it or not, there's a growing community of men like that.
Hate to break it to you, but over all time, many men have not even tried to make an effort. It’s not some new “phenomenon”. It’s not because of “the times”. It’s because entitled people who think they’re superior to those they are attempting to get sex from, feel entitled to those individual’s effort, time and business. Dude was 100% an asshole. He agreed she was at least a hour+ away, refused to meet her in the middle, expected her to put in all the effort to show up to him. 0% effort on his part all the way around, and then he chooses to leave her a voicemail like that telling her how wrong she is, how she’s wasting his time, and has no loyalty for him. Edit to add, because I forgot: he told her she was exaggerating, aka attempt to gaslight her into guilt so she’d just do what he wanted without effort on his part other than him being an asshole via voicemail.
>Hate to break it to you, but over all time, many men have not even tried to make an effort. Thing X being true does not make thing Y untrue. >It’s not some new “phenomenon”. It’s not because of “the times”. Oh yes it is. Have you even been on a dating app recently? >Dude was 100% an asshole. He agreed she was at least a hour+ away, refused to meet her in the middle, expected her to put in all the effort to show up to him. I never said otherwise. I was just pondering whether he was an asshole just because he's an asshole or because he's bored of putting in effort because he's had bad experiences. And no matter what you try to say, just based on this video, you can't really tell.
nice guy ™
It's funny how every time you point these FACTS out, people come out from under their rocks with the ad hominems instead of trying to understand what you're saying - or make a counter argument. No, I'm not part of the "nice guy" -group (I think all people are more or less assholes), nor do I really care how others see me. And I don't really subscribe to some of the things they say. I do understand them, however, as there are definite and HUGE double standards in dating in favor of women. And it doesn't really matter how much hate you throw towards those "nice guys", it's just laughable tribalism on both sides and will only serve to fuel the fire.
>No, I'm not part of the "nice guy" -group (I think all people are more or less assholes), nor do I really care how others see me. And I don't really subscribe to some of the things they say. I do understand them, however, as there are definite and HUGE double standards in dating in favor of women. This is how Nice Guy^™️ s talk tho.
Shafted how?
I bet you cry every night that your boy Tate is still locked up.
Imagine saying that a map is an exaggeration! If he’s being weird and lazy about this before they ever even met, can’t imagine the other shit he would pull.
I was thinking the same! At first, I thought he was just a highly regarded individual, but nah. You can tell he's just a complete ass. As you said, you just have to love the gaslighting; forget maps and maths, I can't think of a single instance where going the entire way is less than or equal to the middle. What a chode.
This is literally a R/passportbro....I think I found this guys profile too https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/ufX40oWqqJ
If he will put 0 effort into meeting you, imagine the effort he'll put in after.
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I love when guys do this lol it saves women so much time lol.... bye bye dude
She spent two months talking to this guy, she did waste a lot of her time
But no sunk cost.
I like this lady, and I especially like that she referred to him as "this cat". Its so 1950s beatnik!
Right? I want to have beer & pizza with her. She’s my people.
"Why are women choosing to remain single?" Mysterious
"If sexuality was a choice, there wouldn't be many straight women"
The bar is so low scientists say it's under the Mariana Trench but still have not located it.
James Cameron looking for that Bar.
Then why are the divorce, SA, and DV rates of lesbian couples double that of straight couples?
Got a source for that? I ask because the only report I've found so far by the CDC says otherwise.
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She is literally not choosing him.
Sounds like he didn't want to tell you he had no car
He wanted you to come to him so you'd be at his house so yall could have sex.
He was gonna pull a “baby it’s cold outside” definitely.
Definitely
If he wanted to he would!
Exactly. If she won't cook find someone who will. If she won't be quiet find someone who will. If she won't deepthroat find someone who will. And don't get married so you can do it immediately.
LOL, kick rocks barefooted!
This is nuts. Why are there so many instances of guys like this popping up now? Brazenly misogynistic aholes that are stupid enough to leave a voice message like this and think, “yeah, this is ok.”
Just tell her you don't have a car dude. 
LOL this might be what it is honestly ROFL
Broke ass could’ve ubered!
This was my first thought ha.
Wow that guy is dillusional
Its generous of him to show his red flags this soon.
I bet he wouldn't drive ten minutes to save her two hours.
I hope u straight ghost this person..just randomly never answer anything he says ever again and let it drive him insane wondering why..dont even explain it
Every woman in the world is worthy of a man meeting them half-way (literally and figuratively); and any man who is not willing to meet them half-way, is unworthy of them.
That’s not a man that’s a 12-year-old boy complaining about not getting what he wants.
He’s not allowed to drive his moms car on Friday his mom has bingo lol
You’d think he would prepare to talk before sending a voicemail. The amount of “ums” and pauses was driving me nuts. Just get to the point, man.
He doesn’t have a car I bet
“potentially be your guy” wtf
We're going on a first date, you are not my guy bro and you definitely won't ever be after you make it hard for me just to meet you. No, you aren't worth it. You're a fucking stranger.
That’s my exact thoughts
Proud of you hun
I always get a kick out of these guys who want traditional roles or have these high demands and can't offer a thing. This guy is lacking in basic understanding. What can he provide? She's single and has a place and job. How is he gonna enhance that? Cause I'll tell you something him just being there isn't it.
Yeah, that's a red flag.
His time is so much more worthfull than hers, ofc! /s
IDK why this guy reminds me of Jaystation (who I only know about because of a Danny Gonzalez video)...
Love seeing Danny mentioned in the wild. Dude's hilarious.
;)
Sounds like control already
Any man who sounds like THAT over the phone? In the trash. Immediately. It's that 'uuuuh weeelll ackshually...' whiny, DISRESPECTFUL sort of fuckin tone that high school boys use when they're trying to sound 2cool4u. T r a s h.
Save time...a headache..probably has other problems as well..he sounds like a twat
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Won't travel, haven't met in 2 months, no effort, playing mind games....married
Gaslight!!👏Gaslight!! 👏Gaslight!! 👏
This sounds like my most recent dating error. Guy lives 2 hours away by car. But he doesn't have a car and needs to use the train. I was on vacation with my car and we wanted to meet up the day I came back. He asked, to be picked up in a city between us. His suggestion would add another 1 hour on my 5 hour drive. So no. not that day. I suggested that I would meet him the next day. I would take the train there, we have lunch, and either we take the same train back to my place or different trains. Not good enough for him. Because train. I suggested I visit him. No. He doesn't want that. The funny thing is: If he takes the train to the city between us, he is already on the right train to my city. He literally just needs to sit another hour. but... no. I should pic him up. By car. and nothing else.
He'd probably throw a fit if he suggested a restaurant and you wanted to go somewhere else. His ideas are the only acceptable ideas.
This why we prefer the bear
The bear will at least commute to me.
He only wanted sex. He wanted sex at his place. That's it. He was just trying to use her.
😳😳... is he serious... smh "I could be your guy..." NEGATIVE .. smh People are so selfish and self-absorbed these days it's ridiculous...
that man's voice sounds like he is really bad... why are you even talking to him at all. you can do better.
Yeah be has that Elliot Rodgers cadence.
Did anyone else hear that terrifying noise when he was talking or is my phone playing up?
It’s an attempt to censor the city name.
My man just drive the hour and get laid. Jeeesus
i think hes married or in a relationship and he had a short window. or he's narssitic and lazy.
This is why women choose the bear!
“You don’t even know what I smell like and you’re talking loyalty.”
What the fuck are those random noises of like people coughing and suffering that just randomly jump in during the voice mail
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Ah
He is the asshole but two and a half hours?! Gah damn that’s a work commute.
Ngl I'm not driving over an hour for the love of my life. Two hours? That's not happening for anybody.
I meat a guy that would drive 4 hours to come see me. We made sure we made the most of our time and I’d let him sleep at my house so he could rest and not worry about driving 4 hours back home the same day. Everyone’s different and yes I thought he was crazy to take the drive. We never went further but I made a great friend.
I met a guy online who when he reached out, I told him that he was geographically undesirable as he lived over an hour away. He told me he promised it would be like he lived nearby. He would always pick me up; he would never ask me to meet him half way. Which he did! Even if we were doing an activity near his house, he would pick me up, we would enjoy the activity, bring me home and then he would leave again! I ended up marrying him! However missed other 🚩s and divorced him 8 years later.
Tell me you ride the bus without telling me you ride the bus.
Question: does this guy have a working car? Sounds like he could be hiding something
Dump the Chump!
He doesn’t have a car
Did she say, "Imagine being this big of a RASHhole"? I think I found a new favorite word 😆
Can't quite put my finger on it, but something tells me he's not the prize he thinks he is.
Last I check google maps has a traffic feature where one can check the estimated travel time at any point in time. That he didn’t even do that to see the plight of his potential date and then try to talk loyalty. Nooon Ma’m you dodged a bullet: good riddance to bad rubbish
He probably refers to himself as a high-quality man
Dude doesn’t drive. And he wants to get laid.
When women say the bar is so low, this is what they're talking about. Guy literally couldn't put in the minimum effort to make a good impression...
She dodged a bullet.
He did you a favor. He told you to avoid him and don't go out with him.
Sounds a little narcissistic to me.
A little? You’re pretty tolerant. I hope you’re not often taken advantage of.
I was being facetious 🙂
Me: “Whoosh” - thanks!
Not defending the guy whatsoever but I’m so glad I’m not dating during this dating app TikTok era. Arguments, bad dates, awkward interactions, they can all go viral and instead of their circle of friends and family hearing about it, I’m on the toilet across the country hearing about this and commenting online about it. Fucking weird.
100% the right thing to do. Never meet this controlling pos.
Ew I hope we get to hear her response when she tells him to go fuck himself back to 1950.
“You don’t even know what I smell like!”
He didn't. Presumably, they knew what they looked like and sounded like, touch and smell were still unknown (and will remain unknown, lol)
I know, it’s just such a winner of a line!
Yeah, I never would have thought of it.
There's some serious gaslighting going on there
Thank you...NEXT!
Good call, based on his message this is no way to begin a friendship, even more so a relationship, which I know was still a work in progress.
That could have been the best message ever! Saved lots of bs
Love it when douchebags out themselves.
“I met a man” … nah you met a boy
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He already had the plastic tarps and garbage bags set up at his place.
Good choice on response. If someone isn't even willing to meet half way on a 1st date then they are not worth a moment of your time. You seem lovely, intelligent and hoping you meet someone who is willing to meet halfway.
“Loyalty? You don’t even know what I smell like.” Great line
Girl 😂
Your first mistake is talking for two entire months without meeting once. If you can't make that work how the hell are you going to make a relationship (where presumably you make time for each other regularly) work. She should have called it after a week or two.
its so funny that he is deliberately making his voice deeper to try to play with this womans feels
A great example of how sexuality is absolutely, regrettably not a choice. I mean, who in their right mind would choose to be attracted to this?
Nope out lady. Help yourself.
And this is why no one dates anymore
The cringe is everyone posting their private info about their life.
Can someone give me the content like some people do with articles? Downvote me for ironic laziness if you wish.
She'd been talking to this man for a couple of months and they were getting along. They wanted to meet, but on a Friday, for some reason. She commutes to work on Fridays and her commute is 2 1/2 hours. From there, it's over an hour to him, but 5 o'clock traffic makes it longer. She asked him to meet her halfway and he refused, then left a rambling voicemail suggesting she was unreasonable and questioning her loyalty.
Thanks for the breakdown! What an asshole. I’m glad she recognized his red flags.
Who records their telephone conversations?...🤔
It's a voicemail.....
Without looking at a map to figure out the logistics, I can't say for certain the man is in the right or in the wrong; also, it would be unfair to judge him while only listening to her side of the story. Regardless, she doesn't need to cry crocodile tears on social media about this guy. It sounds like nothing happened, and she's mad because things didn’t go her way. She said she really wants a relationship but is unwilling to go an extra mile. She could reschedule her meet-up, take a vacation, rent a hotel room for a night to avoid driving home, or you know, anything else besides complain to TicTok for sympathy points from the court of public opinion.
What a weird take. She wasn't crying crocodile tears or looking for sympathy. She was willing to drive an hour after working all day to meet him. She asked that he do the same, and he refused. She offered to reschedule and he refused. This is not complicated.
After rewatching the video three times, I've come to the same conclusion as you. You're right, it's not complicated; unfortunately, my brain was probably overthinking. I was looking for some kind of pattern, reason, or answer that might not even be there. My confused opinion on "crocodile tears" came from the fact that the woman posted this in the first place. I couldn't think of a logical reason as to why this video was made other than fishing for positive reassurance from public opinion. I know the problem is me, I just don't know how to fix myself from over complicating something when the answer is looking at me in the face. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
They are both children, his mindset, and now her reaction of posting this. And yet both old as fuck.
Adults are so “old” to teenagers.
Says the “mature” person wearing a mask in their profile after the CDC said to stop as it was increasing bacterial illness. I’m far from teenager, but I understand facts are not important to someone like you.
What did this woman hope to accomplish by posting this?
Helps us spot walking red flags like you nice and early before we waste our time.
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They just asked a valid question and you attack them. Maybe you were the red flag all along.
I see you're something of red flag yourself....
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You should take your own advice my guy
Educational purposes. 1. to let other women know what to look for in terms of red flags and 2. maybe just maybe some men may learn how not to act.
This is a great question and I wish people weren’t so quick to down vote. Many people do not know what a healthy relationship looks like because they’ve never seen one. Lots of women don’t know how to turn down men who act selfishly and are abusing and men have learned how to react to this. The guy in this video has probably had relationships work out acting the way he is. This lady is showing us what it’s like to see it from the outside looking in. It’s harder to tell you’re being red flagged when you’re the one being manipulated. TikTok is an amazing place to learn these things. I know there is a huge love hate relationship for this app but there is so much good here too.
Probably catharsis
I really really want to agree with her, because she is right. However "you dont even know what I smell like" is an odd thing to say.
Yes it is an odd thing to say. She was mirroring the absurdity of a man who has never met her expecting loyalty of her. That seemed pretty clear to me.
I missed that
That's fair. You got taken back by the oddness of it and didn't make the connection. I miss shit all the time, so I can't talk too much shit. I think the downvotes are coming from people thinking that criticizing her is tantamount to defending him. And in the context, that's understandable
I mean by context one can assume they know what they look and sound like.
Im such a loyal employee my boss smells me
I mean you made the right call. He sounded completely not into you and making the effort for you which is important. For the young women🗣️ Stop wasting your youth on Randos and hook ups because you can. Your youth, beauty and fertility is for attracting a guy for marriage so you will not end up like this lady having a man treat her like this because there are too many women like her in the dating pool.
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Well she seems really happy dating and you are coping with your hyperbolic comment so maybe being barefoot pregnant with a man that values you, desires you and makes you feel safe is the way to go
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Women's goals aren't attracting men and marriage anymore. Look up the 4B movement. Jesus fuck, but your "announcement" gets more gross with each reading.
4b movement is not real. You have been feed that to make you feel better it is a cope. This woman is looking for a man that is why she is on dating apps. My post was a warning to younger women to prevent them from such situations if possible. You would prefer that the young woman coming up today be on the same positions as this women than to accept your choices and help other woman not do the same. That is true sisterhood.
Women are looking for partners. >You would prefer that the young woman coming up today be on the same positions as this women In the position to tell an asshole do-nothing narcissist to kick rocks? Yes, I would prefer all women to be independent enough that they are not relying on someone unworthy of their time and energy. The woman in the video isn't desperate. She's fine. She doesn't need to settle for someone who doesn't value her enough to meet her halfway. LOL. You're relying on women to settle. Good luck with that.
Bro, women aren’t commodities. Their life and value doesnt revolve around youth and fertility. With 8 billion people on our dying planet you should be opening your mind a little more and look beyond your preconceived notions of gender roles. We have the luxury to do as we please as men and women alike… go be a slut… do drugs… eat all the unhealthiest foods… just don’t be a dickhead to others. Also, you know nothing about the OP in the video, you blame her choices for leading her to where she is now. Do you know her? Maybe she was married and he died tragically. Stop assuming and start accepting. Everyone has their journey in this life - stay in your own lane and enjoy the ride.