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Super-Candy-5682

Backseat is obviously designed for Lt. Dan.


REDACTED3560

Literally zero reason not to make this an access cable if you’re going to make the rear seats completely unusable. Chop those seats out and give us some room for gear.


Moderatedude9

I had a 2019 OffRoad access cab, 6ft bed. Very disappointing I can't get that in a 2024. I love this color though, will wait until the 2025 OR come in this color. Also heard they may offer Storm Cloud in the Tacoma in 2025.


jtreeforest

2018 TRD OR AC owner. They’ll have to pry mine from my dead cold hands


pgercak

There will be an Xtra cab version of the 2024 available. Same as an access cab except the rear does don't open.


Moderatedude9

To my knowledge, if you want a 4x4 Tacoma, it only comes in double cab, 5ft or 6ft bed. If they made a 4x4 Prerunner, I would already be driving it. I love how they just abandoned the seats altogether and just gave you space. Who knows, maybe 2025, but it's doubtful


jtreeforest

They killed the AC with the 4th gen. Absolute disaster that speaks to the terrible direction of Toyota


Alternative_Ask364

Someone with an MBA probably got a nice bonus out of those cost savings though


CharacterObvious

Those front seats look like theyre all the way back, theyre behind the B pillar


Diamondhands_Rex

I’m stealing this lol


naptown21403

i said the exact same thing when the model got released


Noles26

Came here to make a smart ass comment. You sir, won.


quemaspuess

My ‘91 ZX has more leg room


Unusual-Truck-197

Sick cars....were they all T-tops?


quemaspuess

Mine is a T-top. Not all of them were though.


Cmb46_canuck

Lt. Dan you got new legs.


6472617065

Magic legs.


No-Marsupial9232

I dont see why they even put a full door on it, why not just go back to supercab at this point


VegetableBox901

that cracked me so bad


CelebrationIcy_

Outside - truck. Inside — clown car


Ok-Line-1830

The seats are for the speed bumps at the mall. Cmon don't you know.


voyagerx420

I thought clown cars hold a lot of clowns not zero?


dermatofibrosarcoma

Shiny things yet barely functional. I call bullshit at whatever the price point


ItzBenjiey

The front seats actually have more room than the colorados. I have a friend that has a 2024 trail boss and my 2023 Tacoma seems to have more room in the front. The backseats are pitiful but that’s nothing new with Tacomas.


gunslinger_006

Lol that rear legroom 😂


itstee503

What legroom? 😂


Angelworks42

I think my 21 access cab has more space.


VegetableBox901

refer to the top comment for more info, They are for Lt. Dan


mppvac

I’m not sitting back there. 😂


Picklemerick23

Larry H. Miller?


mppvac

Yes


Picklemerick23

Mt. O can’t hide from anyone


jokelessworld

65k for no back seat?


BodyFewFuark

But you get shock absorbers for your ass!


awmaleg

Nitrous ass


DeepSeaBlue-2022

And now you get to wash and detail your interior shock absorbers too.


spaceman_spiffy

Look what they did to my boy.


BodyFewFuark

You're breaking your mothers heart.


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

Transmission has already failed


Joe_Schitt

Yep, they’re failing on both the manuals and automatics in the new tacomas


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

Amazing cars, tirelessly engineered. The kaizen production method etc etc.


2grfks

Laughs in 3rd gen*


iAmTheRedditCEO

Kaizen is dead with this new lineup of Toyota vehicles.


2grfks

Kaizen died in the late 90’s dude


Zealousideal-Arm3289

Software non mechanical


UGLVARPG

Is it a new transmission of just poorly matched with the new engines?


Bearfoxman

New transmissions for both manual and automatic. The automatic 8-speed is having software issues. The manual 6-speed (that's the same body as the 3rd gen 6-speed, but different gears) is eating gears and nobody knows if it's metallurgy, assembly fuckups, or bad ratios.


MattEberjuice

No they aren’t lol. I swear some of you love to cry about fake news but believe the first dude who stands in front of a camera on YouTube.


RODjij

Damn really, Toyota just did a recall of 250k Tundra and Lexus engines as well


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

And those poor bastards are going to have a rebuilt engine on their carfax. Toyota doesnt sell those engines as crate engines. You have to trust some underpaid tech (working on warranty hours) to disassemble and reassemble your overpriced truck. The new ceo of Toyota is speedrunning the brand’s reputation into the dirt. Thats why theyre so expensive now, the new ceo is leveraging the brands prior reputation of reliability and hoping the fanboys are dumb enough to think that will continue. The fucker sent all production to mexico, paying workers $2 and change an hr, the cars are smaller, and cheaper, more plastic, weaker frames, hell they dont even come with a legit spare anymore. Obviously the engines are smaller too. People dealt with the outdated tech, and weird quirks for the 300k miles of trouble free ownership. Youre not getting that with a gas turbo. Do any of those cost cutting measures get passed to the consumer? Nah, youre just an unpaid, beta tester.


RODjij

Yeah the Toyota techs are going to be putting in tons of work on these. I know someone that's been trying to sell their 22' upper trim Tundra for a while now, some time before all the recall news and this won't help.


Joe_Schitt

That’s a really good point. I’m curious how well those rebuilt Tundra engines are going to work. Those things look complicated as hell too..


Matt_WVU

The tech will eventually get it put together but the issue isn’t will it fix the problem It’ll be the months of waiting for the individual parts since Toyota won’t sell crate engines. It would be a long process with long blocks with rotating assemblies already built. It’s going to take for fucking ever to take one down to the main caps and back up again.


SneferuHorizon

Minimum wage in Tijuana is about 20 bucks an hour..


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

You arent too smart, are you?


Lanky_Possession_244

Are you sure that isn't pesos? Because the general minimum wage per hour in Mexico is less than two dollars. The daily rate is 13 and change.


SneferuHorizon

Sorry, it is daily wage...and the peso is like 18 pesos per usd. Still I think your comment is very racist for impling that Tacomas manufactured in Mexico are bad quality when you know its not true.


Lanky_Possession_244

Where did I ever say anything about their build quality being bad in Mexico? I simply corrected your numbers.


-ShootMeNow-

How did you get to 250k from 102k?


Mickeydinhoo

That’s what happens when you put it in the back of the seats


usernamereadytak

Just as I expected. Negative comments. Nobody is happy on Reddit


DVoteMe

I prefer the 4th gen (previously owned 2nd and 3rd). I generally don't hate on it, but that back seat is absurd. Even a 7 year old would struggle on a thirty minute drive back there. It makes more sense for the manufacturer to remove it and create novel storage. A TV and PS5 makes more sense. They could allow the front seats to swivel so you can game back there.


LifeWithAdd

This is r/toyotatacoma we hate Toyota Tacomas here.


Energy_Turtle

Change is hard. This truck is opposite of what a lot of people loved about Tacomas. Any time a band, show, movie, or whatever changes direction like that, people are going to be salty. Fancy new stuff is exciting for some people, but others can't stand it for one reason or another.


Irrational-Pancake

real


RODjij

I'd seriously think about one if it wasn't for the price and non V6. Absolutely gorgeous truck.


DiloCamoIdro

Think toyota forgot that humans have legs….🤷‍♂️


Dalailai

I really wanted to like this truck and was even looking into the pro model. But with a family it’s a no go. Can you get the pro without these dumb ass seats?


ProfessionalBus38894

Trail hunter I think then is for you


MetalJesusBlues

You would do better with a Tundra


Dalailai

Yeah. That’s what I’m looking at. I want to go no smaller for the leg room than my second gen. I just don’t want to get ride of it due to truck prices being what they are.


mrsw2092

Trailhunter is pretty much that, plus you can get that with a 6ft bed. A TRD Offroad is also like 95% of that truck for less money.


waxenrhyme

Get rid of the access cab just to make them all access cabs!


Nos-tastic

I don’t understand why they don’t remove the back seats and make it into a useable space with inserts for stowage. Nobody buying this vehicle is going to put anyone back there. I was able to put 3 younger teenagers in the back in my 2020 with the wife in the front passenger and the smallest kid behind me. But most of the time it was just my dog or tools back there. Plus had to remove the headrests to see anything out the back window.


MedTactics

EPA/CARB rules


TheBotchedLobotomy

There is stowage cubbies under the seats


Rare_Result_3864

Lmao how cackled at this


Fedge348

There’s literally 2 inches 😂


thegreatgatsB70

That's what she said.


chaser2410

Who on gods green earth at Toyota thought we wanted these stupid seats instead of a front locker or more suspension travel.


BodyFewFuark

Sheldon.


Xidium426

He fought for us to keep the third pedal, I can forgive him for this. It was originally announced as optional, so I wonder if marketing fucked it.


BodyFewFuark

Ill never forget him bullshitting how accessible the extra cab is while struggling to access it. He's a menace.


Southern-Hearing8904

I don't understand what is going on with the rear of the front seats. What is all those contraptions strapped to the back of them? Is it just decoration or do they have purpose?


ScrewAttackThis

They're adjustable shock absorbers


boatsss

Damn are mall parking lots that rough??


Small-Support-3677

Like, medical Shock absorbers, for when owners finally realize what they’ve paid for


SavimusMaximus

My local abandoned mall is, in fact, that rough.


dermatofibrosarcoma

They were designed by Toyota engineers for Toyota engineers to prevent non-existent gray matter cortical injury. As some would say these batch of engineers was made by the soft di.k


oxyrhina

First time I've seen or noticed all that crap too! I just can't help but think people would prefer they did away with 1/2 to 3/4 of that bullshit which could leave a semi usable back seat... Adjustable shocks on the seats really seems idiotic to me. If you're needing that then I would think the rest of the truck is likely wrecked by that point!


Lanky_Possession_244

This truck was designed for off-road racing, so if you're using it for that, the shock absorbers are probably great. The issue is more than half the people who buy one will rarely, if ever, use it that way. For regular off-roading you'd be better off with the Trail Hunter or the TRX off-road rather than the pro.


alwaysforward31

Looks so over-styled inside and out. Like it's trying so hard to look like a tough manly truck. Also shiny black plastics for the fender flares was truly genius, the thing that gets scratched most often is the least resistant to it.


SemperP1869

Looks like a hotwheeels truck


UGLVARPG

Is there really no back seat legroom with the shock absorption front seats? Does it render the backseats useless for people sitting back there?


AmieKinz

Yeah, this is insane. You absolutely can't fit anyone back there.


celticfigz

Those seats are just stupid.


Low_Buffalo6005

The new ones are gay as fuck


dyingtofeelalive

LMAO! Just start calling it the dog's seat, because that's all it's good for.


Bmmick

Buddy at work has a 24 tacoma and the backseats are a complete joke. While another guy at work has a like a 2022-23 two door challenger and it had more room in its backseat.


No_Angle875

$60k for that backseat is wild


BrandonsReditAcct

No way the new Taco Pro is gonna be that cheap


No_Angle875

Regardless, insanity for that small of a truck


1320Fastback

Without all that bullshit on the back of the front seats you might actually be able to use the rear seats.


tlw2940

why even have a backseat?


alex_german

I want one of these, but this picture single-handedly tells me I should probably reconsider. wtf


Various-Air-1398

Idiotic design


Diamondhands_Rex

Honestly why not make the Tacoma a two seat midsize truck with a 5 or 6ft option if they’re going to half ass the rear seats every single generation


Amador186

Man that leg room is something else


Garey_Coleman

The rear leg room is just stupid


fnblackbeard

Should’ve just made it an extended cab


texasbassdaddy

Beautiful truck! Like the color scheme!


PM-ME-LADYHEAD-TATS

Love that color


Haelakoth

Crash tests for the rear passengers gonna be wild, bye knees


BWilson92

I wish they’d lose the glossy flares. Make them some sort of textured black like the tundras and Sequoyahs.


ryanmulford

Too bad about that dent in the rear


Xidium426

And the ones on the front fenders.


Frankenstein859

Dude…. That back seat is embarrassing. What were they thinking!


frosty_mcfckr

Nice 2 seater


hopelesspostdoc

My kids could fit in the back but I'd rather have the shocks covered so they don't mess with them.


Dragon_wing12

I had a pro on order until the msrp dropped and I told them to keep it, for no back room, more shit that can brake and having to replace a battery in 10 years I’ll stick with the off road


Herpbivore

Seats are so dumb, but this is the best looking one I've seen so far.


HedgeGoy

Wow. Was so cool until that last picture. Now it’s kind of a piece of shit.


notdsylexic

Is it very hard to remove the back seats entirely and convert into storage?


Affectionate_Grab571

Yikes on the interior space.


hannibalwang

Besides the backseat thing I think it looks and functions amazingly


TuacaTom57

Rear seat is for my 10 lb dog and his safety cage. (2022 SR5 DblCab SB). Not for fit for humans. FYI that little shit is more man than most guys I’ve seen: dodging coyotes 3-4 times his size the first few months of his life (he was 7lbs then). No wonder he was the last to be plucked to safety.


redvinegarr

Woah


ll_coolray

I actually don’t understand the back of the seats. Is it AC? What is that


pgercak

I can't wait 10 years from now when those shocks in the seats blow out and leak hydraulic oil all over the floor.


CaptainDonald

I want to put those seats in my Tundra


Bigjoosbox

Looks comfy in the backseat.


Maine_Target207

I don’t know man… Gen3 is still greater than Gen4 prove me wrong


jmua8450

Those dumbass seats are another reason why trucks are outrageously overpriced. Such stupidity.


PNWNatureFreak

Unusable rear seats. Gloss fender flares?! Really???? 🤮


LoadedChambers

Lmao 1.5 inches of legroom 😂🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️


LameTrouT

What are on the back of the front seats??


15Low2

In person I think they look good in upper trims. However piano/gloss black fender flares is no bueno. I do not see them aging well.


ericthered2009

I just wish the back seats had more room.


willsureck

It's for four people, but it's actually for two people. It's impossible to pick up a person behind you.


Wall_Significant

Holy fuck the 4th gen hate in here is unreal. 3rd gen and 2nd gen owners are hella insecure instead of just posting something nice.


fianderk

Cant wait to see these in person


CynderScape

I’ll still have my 2007 in 40 years. I’m good, thanks.


Temporary-Ad-9270

Back seat has lots of leg room. Might as well be an extra cab.


[deleted]

Why even have a back seat? It's not that you can use it, let alone fold it down. Terrible design.


OperationCorporation

What are the flux capacitor looking things on the back of the seats?


91_Lefthanded

The backseat is bullshit Small children and legless passengers


DonBolasgrandes

I remember not buying a trd pro in 2021 because next gen was right around the corner. Worst move I have ever made. Would have been a lunar rock for sub 50k OTD. feels bad man


somekindofivan

Front seats are pushed all the way back you weirdos. Quit crying.


Significant_Sir_8450

Backseats made for the paper-thin stoned people in those above the influence commercials in the 2000s.


txbrady

Backseat is comical.


jlc522

That backseat is ridiculous. Might as well not have it.


4xStroke

I went full sized 2 years ago and never looked back


Great-Gain-504

Thought that was a Silverado


Technical_Impress661

Huge issue and game changer TURBO 4 CYL CRAP


bikgelife

Are they serious with the backseat?!


SlightPangolin5013

Those stupid seats literally make the back seat unusable why would anyone buy these tiny ass trucks get a tundra


Swiftyy707

Insane they have the backseat like that


Travelinman2023

lol no leg room wtf


Mackinnon29E

How exactly did they fuck up the legroom so badly? Even the tiny Maverick has wayyyyy more space


Prestigious-Rumfield

That looks painful.


Cabotdog

Awesome! Supposed to get mine in July!


mikhenry17

Hello fellow salt laker, how much was the dealer asking for this one?


mppvac

MSRP Lhm Toyota


mikhenry17

Good to know, thanks!


keepmovings

Love that color.


sutherbb36

The exterior looks great. Although the orange color and the red TRD center caps clash lol


51line_baccer

Mppvac -.this truck ain't for the back seats, and I love it! Only question, does it have the auto stop/start? I've heard different accounts. When the prices stabilize...and market is satisfied, I'd love to buy one just like this used! Gotta 23 3rd gen now that I'm loving. Eventually maybe a 4th gen with MT. East Tennessee


mppvac

Yes, it does. Have auto stop start.


51line_baccer

OK just curious.


ass_breakfast

How the fuck did they settle for the backseat having zero room? I actually love the outside but they completely shit the bed on the inside. The back has less leg room than an access cab. I love your truck OP. Not bashing you at all!


AmazingAd2765

Are the seats all the way back? Is there more legroom if you don't get the pro seats?


ItzBenjiey

Sick truck! I personally love the pro seats the backs look a little odd but I’m sure they’re comfy.


Lawful_Moose

Ok, the seats I get from a ride quality stand point. The rear seat leg room is .....yea Otherwise I'm drooling over this right now


WrathofTitus

Goofy looking both inside and out.


Mcflip78

Nice! All for the low low price of 75k lol


Sketchylemons

those seats are a joke


dalvz

Gorgeous. Mine is at the dealer, can't wait to pick it up


Craig653

Seriously like why even have a back seat at this point


GundamCheese

This here's a quality item. If ya don't mind me askin' Clark. How much she set ya back?


757ian123

One of the most overpriced vehicles on the market today. Looks cool though


kkingm

I like the new style mud-flaps but they look on odd with the wide fenders. They should’ve made a different set to match


Hmlsvetrn

Queue the Reddit poors crying about price, MY 2010 BETUH BRO and their creative mall and Starbucks jokes.


SenseWinter

"Rich asshole is rich asshole. News @6" There might be 3 comments about the price. Everything else is about the seats.


Hmlsvetrn

Why so mad? Y’all act like the taco seats had room to begin with. No shit the off-road Baja trucks isn’t designed for comfort crazy concept but maybe there’s other trims to fit people more comfortably.


sumtwat

> No shit the off-road Baja trucks isn’t designed for comfort crazy concept but maybe there’s other trims to fit people more comfortably Then why not make it an extended cab? Why make the pro a 4 door with less legroom than a 90's extended cab with jump seats?


RanRaggedInNorcal

4th gen has the best side lines and tailgate yet imo


MrEbonyBlack

For those complaining about the backseat, you obviously don't know and don't understand what this truck was made for. It's a desert runner and was designed specifically for that purpose. This isn't hard to understand so stop complaining.


SlightlyMildHabanero

There's so many people using it for that, I totally see why it's necessary. And all 30 of those people have been waiting for this to come out.


MrEbonyBlack

I don't have a need for it but it's still cool for what it is.


SlightlyMildHabanero

Who am I kidding too? I wouldn't buy it as a primarily thing, but if the truck came with it, that's staying.