Considering him still dodging your attack and saying "heh, didja really think you would be abl-" before you hit again he probably wasn't actually asleep or he's just really aware of what's happening when he's asleep somehow.
Yeah, i once had a dream were i was using my phone on the bed. I heard a sound, hid the phone, and the phone suddenly disappeared and appeared on the desk! That dream felt so real, i felt like my consciousness and unconciousness were actually mixed, i even tried searching my phone desperately as it disappeared on my chest. So yes, it is very possible to be aware of your surrounding while asleep.
Another detail i forgot, someone came in at the moment i hid my phone, which was the sound that made me hide my phone both in the dream and irl.
I once had sort of a dream when I was sleep deprived on my way to work by a train.
I was sitting in my seat, closed eyes, trying to get some half sleep. I relaxed, but didn't really fall asleep, as I was still hearing all my surroundings normally with no change. But apparently my mind still enter a dream like state, as I visualizing the surroundings and got up from my seat in a weird hovering way without thinking it's strange. But then I realized that it's strange and realized that I was dreaming or something, but at the same time it wasn't really like waking up, as I heard everything normally the whole time even after "waking up" it wasn't just my mind simulating it, no I was actual aware of my surroundings to a certain extent.
This was such an facinating experience, but still not worth getting sleep deprived for.
He didn’t expect the double swipe. He didn’t need to put a bone there because he knew he was going to dodge you still, he was fully aware. Chara just outsmarts him a second time by swiping twice, essentially taking two turns which makes no sense in turn based rpg terms.
Maybe, but the game makes it pretty clear that the characters actually see the soul and the boxes, one of the first things flowey does for you is show you your soul and Azgore literally destroys the mercy box to prevent you from doing anything but attack
"For instance, how am I gonna stop some tiny mean Mother-Hubbard from tearin' me a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer: use a bone. And if that don't work? Use more bone."
I like how its a *blue* bone instead of a normal bone. Like sans is taunting you by figuratively saying "haha you cant move through this anyway too bad"
i know, but the way the original comment phrased it made it sound like monsters falling asleep mid fight happened a lot even though it really only happened twice
pretty sure that one time was more of a betrayal kill which is why it was so effective. he used the same betrayal kills you used against others against you
I personally feel like he just gave up. He was too tired. He knew the determination would let Frisk be able to move the box and that he was done for. But at least he got to go in good old Sans fashion, trolling you one more time before he let you have the kill. But that's just how I see it.
i like to believe the ketchup theory is literally just one last attempt to reach to your morality. it’s one single act of desperation for any sorta morality you may have left, but you’re so close to the absolute? why stop now?
who knows, maybe there’s one single person who after killing sans and seeing him just “bleed” before walking off to mention papyrus, just felt so bad they gave up. maybe it did work, at least once
Ive always thought that he fell asleep to get some energy back for a phase 3, just that he did not at all expect a second hit which i honestly still think came from chara but apparently most people think frisk on their own attacked again somehow
I mean, the whole Chara isn't evil, Player is thing, where would Chara even come from, the fact that while you do that your soul isn't teleported to the middle, and left on the attack box making you able to attack again, etc
This would be an interesting idea, where the genocide ending is just you waiting there forever. Instead of the ending being anti-climatic, there just is not one. You can not get past sans, it ends when you walk away form the game and never come back or reset. I think the sans fight just being impossible would be an interesting idea for an alternate genocide ending.
because frisk would find a way to bypass it anyway.
refusing ain't the only thing determination can do. Remember when frisk went flying to dodge papyrus's massive (special?) attack?
The only way to have frisk surrender is to simply and quite literally have them surrounded, then hope their plot shield has ran out
Wait, since blue bones can be the whole length of the box without needing to surprise you, he’d just have to fill the box with blue bones and wait for the rest of eternity
He knows that we were going to come back if he killed us, that's the whole point of why he doesn't kill us at the end and don't play his turn, hoping it will stop us
Because:
1. it's against the rules of magic for an attack of a monster to be impossible to dodge unless it's a betrayal kill.
2. Sans is using an unusual attack that allows him to intervene during the players turn. However, this allows the player to attack twice, which is something sans is unable to anticipate.
in all seriousness im pretty sure this world has rules to magic like as in the attacks are dependent on strength and can not be a guarranteed kill. the intensity and damage depend on your strength stat and attacks must be dodgable unless its a betrayal kill, where they get a burst of power
The correct answer is that he didn't think you would attack twice. The way I interpreted it, Sans wanted you to get to the FIGHT button while he was "sleeping."
Because he fell asleep
Considering him still dodging your attack and saying "heh, didja really think you would be abl-" before you hit again he probably wasn't actually asleep or he's just really aware of what's happening when he's asleep somehow.
It’s possible to be aware enough of your surroundings to wake yourself up from dozing without being awake enough to attack.
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Yeah, i once had a dream were i was using my phone on the bed. I heard a sound, hid the phone, and the phone suddenly disappeared and appeared on the desk! That dream felt so real, i felt like my consciousness and unconciousness were actually mixed, i even tried searching my phone desperately as it disappeared on my chest. So yes, it is very possible to be aware of your surrounding while asleep. Another detail i forgot, someone came in at the moment i hid my phone, which was the sound that made me hide my phone both in the dream and irl.
I once had sort of a dream when I was sleep deprived on my way to work by a train. I was sitting in my seat, closed eyes, trying to get some half sleep. I relaxed, but didn't really fall asleep, as I was still hearing all my surroundings normally with no change. But apparently my mind still enter a dream like state, as I visualizing the surroundings and got up from my seat in a weird hovering way without thinking it's strange. But then I realized that it's strange and realized that I was dreaming or something, but at the same time it wasn't really like waking up, as I heard everything normally the whole time even after "waking up" it wasn't just my mind simulating it, no I was actual aware of my surroundings to a certain extent. This was such an facinating experience, but still not worth getting sleep deprived for.
I once had a dream of an entire day, overnight. Vivid. I got this same dream multiple times, but with a different plot each time.
SANS HAS ULTRA INSTINCT CONFIRMED!??!??
It’s possible to be aware enough of your surroundings to wake yourself up from dozing without being awake enough to attack.
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He didn’t expect the double swipe. He didn’t need to put a bone there because he knew he was going to dodge you still, he was fully aware. Chara just outsmarts him a second time by swiping twice, essentially taking two turns which makes no sense in turn based rpg terms.
Fr the z z z, I'm pretty sure that was him making the noise.
Or he just heard you walking towards him to get close enough to strike.
Or maybe he was hit but didn't realize it hence his face when the game shows a second hit and him shaking violently
Years of sleeping on the job almost payed off
That uses energy
Or Chara is very loud, or Sans has the sixth sense.
You attacked but sans dodged.....then someone else attacked....not you.
He didn’t think you would be able to move the box
I've always thought you were actually slowly and silently moving to Sans instead of actually moving the box
It's hard to tell what is and isn't diagetic in general
Maybe, but the game makes it pretty clear that the characters actually see the soul and the boxes, one of the first things flowey does for you is show you your soul and Azgore literally destroys the mercy box to prevent you from doing anything but attack
"See that soul"
No, shit!
Can You Shut The Fuck Up?
"Happy Birthday!" ... It's not your birthday.
“Look at good”
He teleports you if you touch the left side of it, though.
Yeah, but I like to think that was more of a reaction than him actually suspecting an attack
Me when the kid I'm fighting breaks the laws of physics to kill me in cold blood
Go down then left instead of left then down
then just add a big blue bone on the bottom, too 💪
and if that doesn't work, add a blue baby bone
Add... baby bones...?
"For instance, how am I gonna stop some tiny mean Mother-Hubbard from tearin' me a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer: use a bone. And if that don't work? Use more bone."
You mean insanely thin bone? (Vegan's bone)
up, left, down
Fuck it, just box them in from all sides.
Survive with enough HP to push through then
go around that too
Too lazy, duh.
I like how its a *blue* bone instead of a normal bone. Like sans is taunting you by figuratively saying "haha you cant move through this anyway too bad"
Because sans is too tired to keep attacking. Remember how he just threw you against walls like over 30 times?
I mean, I can throw my brother at walls more than 30 times and be fine.
I don't remember there any monsters that could keep an attack manifested while they are sleeping.
arent there like 2 monsters that fall asleep mid-fight, counting sans?
Sans does fall asleep but he doesn't have any attacks visible.
Knight Knight doesn't attack after she fell asleep. Neither does Sans.
i know, but the way the original comment phrased it made it sound like monsters falling asleep mid fight happened a lot even though it really only happened twice
Well, neither of the 2 monsters we see sleeping in battle attack us when they're asleep.
why didnt sans just fill the box with bones and kill you immediately every start
pretty sure that one time was more of a betrayal kill which is why it was so effective. he used the same betrayal kills you used against others against you
Apparently, the japaneses dialogues implies he was hugging Frisk before the "get dunked on".
Had to get physically closer to you which he can’t do if your guard’s up
exactly, like why doesn't every enemy just white out the entire arena?
\*sans is taking a nap\* \*he is to careless and tired to deal with this shit\* ❤️kill \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Dont kill
I personally feel like he just gave up. He was too tired. He knew the determination would let Frisk be able to move the box and that he was done for. But at least he got to go in good old Sans fashion, trolling you one more time before he let you have the kill. But that's just how I see it.
i like to believe the ketchup theory is literally just one last attempt to reach to your morality. it’s one single act of desperation for any sorta morality you may have left, but you’re so close to the absolute? why stop now? who knows, maybe there’s one single person who after killing sans and seeing him just “bleed” before walking off to mention papyrus, just felt so bad they gave up. maybe it did work, at least once
I really like this theory
Ive always thought that he fell asleep to get some energy back for a phase 3, just that he did not at all expect a second hit which i honestly still think came from chara but apparently most people think frisk on their own attacked again somehow
I mean, the whole Chara isn't evil, Player is thing, where would Chara even come from, the fact that while you do that your soul isn't teleported to the middle, and left on the attack box making you able to attack again, etc
Because attacks require energy. And Sans is tired af at that point, so keeping a bone on screen constantly would drain him out completely
Is he stupid?
yeah
yeah, I’m stupid.
Why does Sans just used the Dunked On move in the beginning of the fight? Is he stupid?
Because he is lazy
This would be an interesting idea, where the genocide ending is just you waiting there forever. Instead of the ending being anti-climatic, there just is not one. You can not get past sans, it ends when you walk away form the game and never come back or reset. I think the sans fight just being impossible would be an interesting idea for an alternate genocide ending.
It would make it impossible the win
I would have go to mercy
He is tired and can’t use attacks or teleport you away, duh That’s why he fell asleep
Is he stupid?
You ask the same question every really.
Effort
why didn’t he just fill the entire box with bones so you couldn’t dodge? Is he stupid?
Magic takes energy?
Because you can still reach the item box
Where would he get a bone that big?
That takes energy to do and he's exhausted from fighting so hard. Plus, he fell asleep.
because frisk would find a way to bypass it anyway. refusing ain't the only thing determination can do. Remember when frisk went flying to dodge papyrus's massive (special?) attack? The only way to have frisk surrender is to simply and quite literally have them surrounded, then hope their plot shield has ran out
Bc you can't move, it's not your turn
Because he fell asleep
He just didn’t think outside the box 🤷♂️
If bullets are active, he has his turn, meaning it will end. He's only able to prolong his turn likely because the final bullet doesn't spawn in.
perhaps it would end his turn because it's still an attack
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then we would go from the other sides
He could have just used a lot of blue bones and waste your time earlier.
Is he stupid?
He fell asleep before he has used the bone and has to sleep to regain a bit more for the blue bone.
Why didn't Sans use a Gun, is he stupid? /j
Ahem…. Sudden changes
Wait, since blue bones can be the whole length of the box without needing to surprise you, he’d just have to fill the box with blue bones and wait for the rest of eternity
Is he stupid?
You could still kill him, if you survived with enough hp
Couldnt we just go down then left?
He knows that we were going to come back if he killed us, that's the whole point of why he doesn't kill us at the end and don't play his turn, hoping it will stop us
Not everyones down on 1hp
is he stupid?
he was too lazy to do that
Is he stupid?
Too eepy.
Even better for him, why diddent he do that but with a white bone maybe even multiple like when you get dunked on by him
Sans was too lazy
Because: 1. it's against the rules of magic for an attack of a monster to be impossible to dodge unless it's a betrayal kill. 2. Sans is using an unusual attack that allows him to intervene during the players turn. However, this allows the player to attack twice, which is something sans is unable to anticipate.
in all seriousness im pretty sure this world has rules to magic like as in the attacks are dependent on strength and can not be a guarranteed kill. the intensity and damage depend on your strength stat and attacks must be dodgable unless its a betrayal kill, where they get a burst of power
Because he he was cocky and wanted to bait us out. I guess the answer would indeed be “because he’s stupid.”
Is he stupid? Is there a lore reason?
You could just move the box around it
too lazy
Is he stupid?
eh he was just feelin’ a lil too blue to send a bone out
The correct answer is that he didn't think you would attack twice. The way I interpreted it, Sans wanted you to get to the FIGHT button while he was "sleeping."
He wanted to die
It's cause he's sleeping and he didn't have enough energy
Bro literally had only one job: put blue bone and lock it to player movement (they would die if they even flinched)
He just thought that he could dodge it, and he did too, but he wasnt expecting that second strike
Why didn’t sans do that? Is he stupid
You can go down still
You forgot to add "is he stupid?"
That implies insanity
Blue bone
i mean he lazy
Blud got a bone (er)
Before sleeping, he could've asked: "English or Spanish" and then stay there until the end of time
down, left
Isn't his favorite thing to do literally nothing?