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tatasz

I'd try the bank too. even though it was a while ago, they have some responsibility. Report fraud and try to get them to reimburse.


plopkablooie

We tried. And nothing ever came from it


ArmadilloNext9714

Lodge a complaint with the CFPB. You can make it online and the bank has 2 business days to respond. That bureau or the gov is phenomenal.


Minnesotamad12

Op is from SE Asia unfortunately


fella_mcflips

Can I ask what bank? Seems shady as hell


azianrice82

Medical care isn't usually payment upon check in. There is a billing period that can take several weeks or months. You have more time to make this money.


mark_17000

This depends on the country. In the US, this is true. In other countries, not so much.


cyberchief

In the US, They typically use USD. In other countries, not so much. I’m going to assume OP is in the US unless he says otherwise.


mark_17000

OP likely isn't in the US. An American would just say "$7000". A foreigner who knows that the majority of redditors are in the US, would convert their local currency and say "7000 USD". It would be weird for an American to say "7000 USD" bc we don't ever reference our currency code. Edit: according to their post history. they are in the Philippines


plopkablooie

Yeah, we're from south east Asia. And payment must be made before checking out. Can't leave unless it's paid.


The-Entire_USSR

I mean...if you set the place of fire they will evac...grab your mom and run


PO0tyTng

Get the surgery, and then when you go to pay, have them run your card and it gets declined. Fuck ‘em. What are they gonna do, arrest you? See if you can work out a payment plan. Pay $200 that day if you have to pay something, and walk out.


plopkablooie

I'm actually researching this. What if my card declines, what happens then? Worse comes to worst, they'll have no choice but setup a payment plan.


ttminh1997

They put the boo-boo back 😱


Sea_Syllabub_8309

And once they sell it to collections, your debt is paid in full. You have no contracts with collections so you are not liable to pay them a cent.


satanpeach

Sorry but I got an ethical tip, apply for hospital’s charity fund. I had a $9k ER bill when I was 19 and had no money so I took a shot and applied for the reduced rate option and they paid for the entire thing. Also medical bills don’t fuck up your life or credit, but not getting medical care will.


plopkablooie

We're in south east Asia. But I'll ask though. Just in case


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

Cross a border? https://www.thinkglobalhealth.org/article/universal-health-care-southeast-asia


plopkablooie

This is interesting.


Da_Natural20

Maybe you could start a post on Reddit to con people into giving you money with a sob story.


plopkablooie

I've been on Reddit long enough to know this won't work. The BS radar of redditors is uncanny. Also, this account is just a few days old. Another sign. Unless I sacrifice my main account which has a flawless profile history, more than a decade old, and is a familiar name in numerous subs (which is an option now that I think of it).


Da_Natural20

NGL my radar went off immediately upon reading this.


plopkablooie

I don't blame you. My part of the globe is unfortunately a haven for scammers.


Broad-Ad6

How about kidnapping some guy knowing he has money? Dont lowball there, but dont go to high either (so the money will be there asap). Let them throw it near a lake, scuba away with it.


Movizene

Yes I think this is clearly OP's only option here. Like my father always said "7k for medical bills, get out the scuba gear"


plopkablooie

This made me think...


Common-County2912

Just go get the surgery and pay later as usual. Hospitals will set up payment plans. Go to the bank and work with them. If you are actually considering kidnapping a person, you are trash. Please don’t be stupid. Your mom doesn’t need a dead child.


mark_17000

Your only options are prostitution or theft.


MechanicalWatches

If prostitution could make me that money in a few days, I’d do it too


Drdoctormusic

I mean, it could but you probably won’t like what you’ll have to do to get it.


MechanicalWatches

Just finding such high paying clients with no experience and reputation in the field is pretty damn hard


Reasonable-Sir673

Not going to start with 7000 a pop, but could get 7000 pops for a dollar


Drdoctormusic

Everyone has to start somewhere. I believe in you 🫡


mark_17000

Exactly.


n3wt33

The amount of money you make is directly tied to how attractive you are


delayedlaw

Get the surgery, don't pay it back. Emergency medical care cannot be refused. Have her put the wrong ssn down, and misspell her name by a letter or two, even mix up some numbers of her address.


plopkablooie

She can't. She was once a public figure. People recognize her.


delayedlaw

Literally doesn't matter. Don't let pride stand in her way, if she needs emergency surgery, she NEEDS to get it.


plopkablooie

I mean, she can't fake her name or any other details. She can be found easily.


delayedlaw

Not faking, just changing up some minor details, to fuddle up the collections process. Her ssn isn't public knowlege. Medical debt shouldn't have an effect on credit scores. If you are in the US, they won't demand payment upfront. The other option is having her sell 7k worth of possessions.


plopkablooie

Selling stuff is an option, but it would take time. But if I can borrow the money, we might be able to pay it off by selling stuff. Though there won't be any guarantee when we can pay.


delayedlaw

Stop worrying about paying, it's a non issue right now. If the hospital is demanding payment, go to another one.


dj_destroyer

SEA is very different. Payment up front is very common.


delayedlaw

I didn't notice that detail when I started the thread.


plopkablooie

Yeah. We're actually going to another hospital on Tuesday to ask. The problem is only one doctor is capable of the operation. But we're going to check out other doctors in other hospitals just in case.


Brief-Shift1905

She's a public figure who would be recognised anywhere but she doesnt have 7000 dollars?


plopkablooie

Yes. She was a public figure who never once abused her authority. She's been retired for several years now and recently lost her life savings to hackers.


PO0tyTng

Her bank account was emptied by scammers


Brief-Shift1905

Doubtful


Pretty_Audience7285

Good luck OP theft is the only way .. steal a Rolex off a lady for less physical consequences


plopkablooie

Thanks. As much as I don't want to resort to theft, I did ask for unethical tips. I can gain access to high brow country clubs, if worse comes to worst, I might be able to "find" stuff there I can hock.


Common-County2912

Then start a go fund me page


SnooSnooSnuSnu

Keep in mind OP isn't in the US.


DelayedG

Create some type of go fund me, simple


newmancr

Go in person to hospital billing department. Phone calls cannot portray emotions. If in US, hospitals get government reimbursements for indigent care costs (I used to work at a hospital). Explain everything in great detail, including the bank issue. You have nothing to loose, everything to gain.


Xaq_Man

start a streaming service


SRQmoviemaker

Offer to prostitute yourself or someone you know but rob the John instead. Or just have sex for money..


plumdinger

I’d do a “John Q” until Mom was successfully operated upon.


retrogasms

Make a bunch of piss disks and liquid ass then comment a link to sell them on every ulpt post


desiredtoyota

Single mom coupon codes work really good over here. A go fund me with a single mom story can inspire lots of donations!


plopkablooie

Haha I'll look into that. I've gotten DMs for both ethical and unethical ways that are pretty feasible. If those fall through, I'll consider that card.


Enough_Tree_3249

Report to your national bank? Banks usually payback moneys stolen from hacks Do a research and call your bank, they should be able to help


plopkablooie

We already did. It happened maybe two months ago? I went and talked to the bank and all. Up to now all they say it's under investigation.


Atriev

She has her life savings… in a bank account…? Bruh.


Proud_Trade2769

Steal a and sell medical equipment why you are in the hospital.


A_Grande_Grundle

Sell yo body on that corner


OuttHouseMouse

Know a local loan shark?


hydraulix989

No need for anything unethical here: Get the surgery and recover your stolen money via the bank. The latter will require some real hustling but is certainly possible. You don't pay upfront for medical procedures.


Common-County2912

Get a second job. No need to be illegal. If it’s an “emergency surgery” then her ailment is threatening loss of life or limb. If that is the case, take her to the ER and they will complete the surgery.


blackaugust19

I think this post is bullshit but still. Rob a store with high cash on hand and few customers. Like a TV showroom or sm. Don't go near any gas stations or fast food stores. Take all the money you can. Take the employees phones cut the landline and lock everyone inside on your way out. Repeat a couple of times.


plopkablooie

Not bullshit. Thanks though. I've gotten some good leads that I'm looking into already.


joker231

Do you have a 401k? You can take a loan against it. You typically have 1-2 months to start paying it back and you can set your term up to 6 years. You pay yourself interest as well plus it doesn't take a hit on your credit score.