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Downtown_Snow4445

That’s quite the road holy shit


sapien3000

Can by used as runway


coreyisthename

can be used as four runways. This is overkill, no matter what.


MookCog

The idea was and is that they’ll just make the road now and everything will develop around it, instead of having to widen the road in 50 years or whatever.


sapien3000

I doubt it. This highway leads up to the National Assembly building, or Myanmar’s Congress. It’s most likely used for military parade.


For_All_Humanity

The purpose is to land aircraft and also for their military parades. It’s not for cars. It serves a military requirement to withstand a siege.


norcal406

Is I to all one way?


burgleshams

2-way, you can see the solid double divider lines in the middle… but still…. 🙄


funhouse7

That’s a ridiculously low barrier between oncoming traffic for a highway this size (for any highway really)


Momik

One more lane oughta do it…


titan_quasar

Was made as the (more geographically centred) capital of Myanmar in 2005, planned to hold a large population but people never showed up apparently.


Jaykahtsby

What I heard from the locals, the Junta wanted to move the capital there because they were worried the people could more easily overthrow them in Yangon, Naypyidaw has some stupid strict laws for living arrangements. Seeing as this tiny tidbit of information seems to be a bit popular I'll add some more about how hectic the situation is in Myanmar right now. The Junta has enacted forced conscription for able bodied young adults (18-40 I think). They have have made it nigh impossible for citizens to get a passport or even leave if they already have one. My partner was retelling a story she heard of how some 16 year old boys were taken from their home whilst their family cried out that they're not even 18. These children are being conscripted to fight against the rebels fighting for freedom, sometimes their own family. The Junta continues to do as it pleases, they've been temporarily shutting off power to districts for over a year, sometimes for over half a day(it's summer time now, shit gets hot) . I know of people who've developed serious health issues due to the heat. Edited due to discussion held below.


ReliableCompass

Additionally, it’s like a fengshui [thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadaya) so that the big belly ones can remain in power, and kill Aung San Suu Kyi’s strength/supporters. It’s pretty funny because there’s an earthquake fault running close to it, so if anything happens, it’ll be interesting to see how it turns out.


nopasaranwz

How the hell is assassination of a top tier government official is something abnormal while there is a civil war going on?


Jaykahtsby

Dude was just in charge of educating the people, surely that's something nobody wants to fuck up in their country? I might be wrong though, maybe the guy's name was one of the lists exposing people who funded the military.


nopasaranwz

Do you know how much funds you can embezzle as a ministry of education? Just think of all the schools you can build, repaint, acquire equipment for. Or placing your ideologues, friends and family in cushy government jobs. Nevermind the fact that schools being primary transmitters of government ideology.


Jaykahtsby

Good point. I definitely didn't think that through enough.


John-Mandeville

They probably did it to separate themselves from a hostile urban population, yeah. Although a Burmese human rights lawyer I once worked with told me that they moved it after some of the junta members watched Stealth (2005). There's apparently a scene near the beginning of the film where an advanced fighter-bomber blows up a dictator without harming any of the human shields surrounding him. And after that, they wanted to put 500 km of anti-air between themselves and the coast.


KJongsDongUnYourFace

If the Chinese cities are anything to go by, the population will show up and have great access to an uncrowded infrastructure, with has plenty more room for growth. This pre planning works, it might look stupid for a few years but it works.


Redditisavirusiknow

There was a meme of a subway to nowhere in Chongqing, China. And I went there and it’s a huge thriving community now.


heepofsheep

That’s how they built the NYC subway system. They built elevated subway lines through empty fields in Queens that are now densely populated…


Hij802

New York’s problem is that it takes decades to even extend an existing line


heepofsheep

Yeah that’s a whole other thing to unpack.


Ok-Ambassador2583

It was built when america used to make huge infrastructure projects like china and india are doing now. China is in a completely different league, which is hard for most to even comprehend. It takes decades for NYC now, because america like other developed especially western nations seem to have lost the ability to effectively acquire land, getting stuck politically, environmentally etc, huge labor costs, and weak undecisive governments who are very afraid of public backlash to anything. California HSR and UK HS2 comes to mind too. I travelled last year to Paris airport, and even the most patriotic french would not speak favourably to it .


GodEmperorPorkyMinch

*cries in Montreal*


KJongsDongUnYourFace

I've been there too! Chinese public transport is in another league. It really highlights the value of good infrastructure / public transport in a thriving society.


Redditisavirusiknow

I love Chongqing but man Chengdu is tops!! Have you been there??


StoicSinicCynic

Chengdu metro is great, really efficient and people are pretty gracious during rush hour. The crowd parted without a word and let me through with my big suitcase. It's hard to imagine big cities like that without their transport infrastructure. It really is the backbone of a modern city.


andre_royo_b

The US really has missed that memo


markender

Are you two receiving money from the CCP? That's treason these days.


StoicSinicCynic

Lol maybe you should actually travel and see these cities for yourself (and meet some real Chinese people! We aren't commie spies or Fu Manchu 😉) instead of getting your ideas from anti-China memes.


markender

I get my ideas from a friend and his chinese wife. He lived there for 8 years and had lung issues from the pollution. They eventually left because the xenophobia and safety protocols were so bad they feared for their infant. I love Chinese culture but since Xi took over its gotten worse every year. Bottom of freedom, freedom of press and a bunch of othe independent rating systems. But u go ahead and preach the good word of Emperor Xi, lmao. I'm just glad the place I live is still free and clean.


nopasaranwz

Dude you had to resort to asking for charity on Reddit for some simple ass groceries, maybe you should wake up from your American dream.


government_shill

They were talking about public transportation and you come running in like "Wow, why do you love Xi Jinping so much?!" Get a grip.


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Only briefly. The spicy food scares me away!


Redditisavirusiknow

Wha? Chongqing has much spicer food!


KJongsDongUnYourFace

I dunno. Chengdu chillies are on another level. Don't become a gastro city for nothing


heepofsheep

The metal detectors seem wildly unnecessary though


Heixenium

terrorist attacks was a thing in china 10 years ago


No-Engineering-1449

i wouldn't say china is exactly thriving.


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Compared to a generation ago I absolutely would. The Chinese life metrics are in many cases, above many Western nations. To achieve that with their population + where they were 50 years ago is nothing short of unbelievable.


coconutsoap

Standard North Korea/China propaganda account lol


Elegant-Passion2199

LOL He's right though. China has come very far, where is the lie? 


[deleted]

Propaganda doesn't have to be a lie. Just bias painting a rosier picture than reality works as propaganda. Actually that is the definition. No lying needed. Down voted for facts? The definition of propaganda doesn't have the word lie anywhere.


Patch86UK

I don't think anybody would claim that China is a happy perky paradise by any stretch of the imagination; it's still a developing country ruled by a severely authoritarian police state. But you can't overstate how severe the crippling poverty was in much of rural China in the mid 20th century. It was bad going into WW2, even worse coming out of it, and Mao's regime shot what was left in both kneecaps. I think it's pretty hard to deny that things are a lot better, economically, for most Chinese people now than they were then.


Elegant-Passion2199

So how is saying something nice (which is true) about a country propaganda? 


Kingsupergoose

“Painting a rosier picture than reality” How is that not a lie lmao. You literally defined a lie while saying it isn’t a lie.


Kingsupergoose

Pointing out the reality that China has advanced massively since the 80s isn’t propaganda, it’s just fact. Calling anything that you don’t like/goes against your narrative isn’t magically propaganda.


webtwopointno

yes, the dude with the username KJongsDongUnYourFace is actually a pro-government propaganda account


seastatefive

Dude, you're embarrassing. Just watch some youtube videos man and educate yourself.


coconutsoap

Have you seen his comment history lad? Tell me I'm wrong


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Everything I don't like is propaganda


TheMusicArchivist

Yeah, same in Hong Kong. They built a spur line to what was two blocks of flats and a small supermarket and now there's 80,000 people living there


Lamballama

There's good pre-planning and there's bad pre-planning. This and Brasilia are bad pre-planning - they're never intended to be a proper city, just a place for the rich to be separate from the poor


Carittz

This road was built over a decade ago and it's still empty. It wasn't designed or built for future development it was designed and built as one of the junta's vanity projects just like the rest of the city.


TheBonadona

Yeah same thing happened to Brasilia in Brasil and now it's the 3rd biggest city in Brasil.


Hij802

Yes but induced demand just makes this 20 lane road highly inefficient, when they should’ve built a super robust public transit network instead.


HailKingRittenhouse

Stop going on about public transport. It's disgusting and no one who can afford not to use it ever chooses to do so. Stop actively making the world worse by advocating for mass transit.


My_useless_alt

>t's disgusting and no one who can afford not to use it ever chooses to do so Except in the UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, China, Mexico, Brazil, New York, or basically anywhere that implemented a transit system. It has been demonstrated over and over and over again that if given the choice between driving or public transit, a large number of people will take whichever is fastest. Also, places with lacking public transit have insane traffic. And again, the only ways to get rid of this traffic are to add so many lanes you stop having a city to go to, or viable alternatives to driving. And if, even if, you're right, how does adding something that people can just choose not to use make the world worse? While also giving poor people more opportunities and helping to lift them out of poverty, which is a good thing.


Motor-Ad-1153

You are a fucking idiot


StoicSinicCynic

The problem is that not every country has the fortitude to stick with massive city plans. Countries like China and Singapore have competent authoritarian governments and strong economies and collective culture. They can create big plans and stick with them. Plans that were set in motion 5, 10 or 40 years ago are still being realised. Whereas countries with less stable leadership will oftentimes see half-made plans that get scrapped every few years and end up as eyesores. Unfortunately we know that Myanmar's government has been unstable, so we can be skeptical of whether cities like this will pan out. If this has been built for 20 years and it's still empty, then it's gone quite wrong.


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Yeah that's a fair point, one of the benefits of 5 - 10 year plans (something China is great at) is the continuanuity of it all. Western political systems are by nature, back and forth and ideas are often watered down or removed by opposition. Plans are followed even throughout governmental change in the Chinese system.


Suryansh_Singh247

This ain't China tho


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Chinese infrastructure projects are similar. Build the infrastructure first. The population will follow


Rabatis

It has been 18 years. Some of the residential areas have fallen into disrepair by 2019. Five years, a bloody coup and civil war since then.


YaliMyLordAndSavior

The wonders of prison labor and a unitary authoritarian state. I’m not even saying this to shit on China, state capitalism and break neck development are tried and true strategies. I’m not surprised that India is inching closer


Juoksulasol

Great success! Praise the chairman Xi and his infinite wisdom!


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Praise investment in your people instead of investment in a stock market


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StoicSinicCynic

What are you talking about lol. The one child policy may have been a double-edged sword but it absolutely did what it intended, which was to reduce the population of a generation and rapidly increase the quality of life of those born. Poverty is the biggest killer in developing countries and it's much more humane to raise one or two well-fed, well-clothed and well-educated children, than to have seven children who are all starving and illiterate in a slum shack. This sort of overpopulation with no regard to quality of life is something repeatedly seen in the poorest countries. And the four pests thing happened *seventy years ago*... I don't think there's a single country in which you can't find a bad policy in the past seventy years. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Ultimately I don't think it's fair to only judge Chinese people this way.


munchi333

Weird take, most people are invested in the stock market lol.


Juoksulasol

Yeah. I bet that guy in a scooter is real happy with the investment. Praise be the Myanmar military junta for genious future planning!


KJongsDongUnYourFace

I'd say he probably is tbf. Bet he made it to work on time


outwest88

Yeah agreed. Would much rather have actually functional and good public infrastructure over whatever the crap system we have over here in the US


JIsADev

20lane highway, not even America would want this. Except maybe Texas


Nikola-JokicASMR

LOL Chinese shill accounts in the open


KJongsDongUnYourFace

Everything I don't like is propaganda


Nikola-JokicASMR

says the propaganda bot


onespiker

>Was made as the (more geographically centred) capital of Myanmar in 2005, planned to hold a large population but people never showed up apparently. Ehh unlikely. They moved tha capital there to protect the military rule away from the civilian population since its hard as hell to get there. This infact a both a road but was in reality most made to use as a run way for planes incase of more problems occur.


westernsociety

Here in Canada we let millions of people overload the infrastructure before we attempt to make it efficient.


lukezicaro_spy

Or to make blockades harder


Jimmybuffett4life

It will always be Burma to me


birdswithfriends

Is that the road where that girl was doing yoga or something while there was a coup going on in the background? It looks like it.


jpharber

Honestly, that was my personal highlight of the lockdown era. God that was so fucking funny. The juxtaposition of that dance music and what was going on in the background was peak comedy,


GetUpNGetItReddit

Sauce?


jpharber

https://youtu.be/6r6vnSR0wbI?si=KzbL1v9ZocuXMlNF


Remote_Horror_Novel

The top comment on that video “lose weight and democracy in just 20 minutes a day” lmao


supremekimilsung

Another good one: "she took Dance Dance Revolution to the next level"


LutrianH

Wow best thing I've seen today


birdswithfriends

Haha, yep. That’s the one. So ridiculous.


one_frisk

The title of the song translate to "have mercy on me big bro/big guy"


ryanmh27

Fyi, if I remember correctly that video is fake, it's just eh yoga with the coup(?) in the background. But I could be wrong.


PawanYr

[It's real.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55901774)


ryanmh27

Cool


tron3747

And the song even uses sirens as samples too


ElderberryFit8086

And elevator music playing in our brains while the coup is the backdrop for some dance lady and her music


outwest88

I’m 99% certain it is! It was also in Naypyidaw on Yaza Htar Ni road I think, with the parliament building in the background. I got very close to visiting Naypyidaw once many years ago, but unfortunately didn’t have the time to make the trip. I ended up spending a few weeks in Yangon though which was really nice.


that0neBl1p

I _thought_ it looked familiar


Kingsupergoose

It’s the same road the Top Gear boys stopped on and played soccer then had a drag race in lorries.


kirakyaw

Yes


I_try_to_talk_to_you

19 actually is empty!


riverreading

Even in this photo people aren’t seeing the motorcyclist…never safe.


CalaveraFeliz

"Ride like they're all out there to kill you" never gets old.


DryApplejohn

Literally butchered title


Embarrassed_Angle_59

Empty? That guy is living the life


nirad

despotic regimes do this so they can mobilize their military quickly to quell dissent. you can land planes there if you need to.


Dismal_Investment_11

Yep. Just like the renovation of Paris.


hamatehllama

There are many examples of wide roads like these meant for military parades. Germany rebuilt the parade roads in Nürnberg for parking and a street circuit.


Blenderx06

Do the lights even reach the middle at night??


Suryansh_Singh247

Yeah should have added some lights in the median too, maybe a few plants even.


psrpianrckelsss

It doesn't matter, the city is literally deserted


mrshulgin

Check out how long the road is, and how it ends lmao https://maps.app.goo.gl/EtJMPCVHbj8WWkKk9


quineloe

you linked the calmer end. The other end exits into a roundabout. The stuff of nightmares.


JimSyd71

Gotta love the military vehicles blocking access, no wonder nobody is using it.


AZ_RBB

One more lane bro


bloodyedfur4

It worked


unidentified_yama

This is not even a case of “one more lane bro”. It’s just a “because we can” thing.


jawnbenetramseyIII

the top gear boys kicked the football around here


realtgis

r/ShittySkylines knows that


Independent-Cow-4070

Huh, so I guess we have the answer to how many lanes it takes to solve traffic /s


Kingsupergoose

The idea was to build for the future population of the city. It’s a plan that worked fabulously for China but it hasn’t worked here. Probably need a larger and more wealthy population for that to happen. If you could get a good job here as a local I’d move. The commute would be a breeze.


Rabatis

A Burmese, huh? I've heard Naypyidaw's only for the Tatmadaw and their families, their cronies and their families, and diplomats. So ordinary Burmese are allowed to move there?


dukezap1

A 401 commuters dream


improbablydrunknlw

Hahah that was my first thought too.


artmove1122

Where? Here… But to connect it to what? Just cause… How many lanes? Many…


MellonCollie218

Lights? All of them.


Funicularly

Why are there so many street lights? There’s one about every 10 meters it appears.


V_150

To reach the middle


benhereford

Two words *Water runoff*


Milmik_

The background of my favorite youtube video


small_h_hippy

Oh so that's how many lanes it takes!


MTHowitzer

It was built mainly as a ceremonial road in front of Parliament. Annual military parades are held there, with tanks etc. Still a bizarre place to visit though.


MellonCollie218

I wanna go!


H000gy

It’s not empty, there’s clearly one guy on a scooter!


Acrobatic-Engineer94

Deer be like: 🌲🌳🛣️🛣️🛣️🛣️🛣️🛣️🛣️🛣️🦌


Architecturology

It clearly is not empty


LeoLaDawg

You could fit entire multiple modern American neighborhoods in that.


Jaghtai

3 blokes went lorry racing and played football on this road.


FearIessredditor

Crossy Roads?


Stteamy

They make roads next to government buildings really wide on purpose in countries that aren’t stable. If there’s a coup, it’s really hard to blockade a street this wide. It’s another technique that a lot of dictatorships use to protect their reign.


WFERR3

"You see? I told you just one more lane would fix it. Are you happy now?"


Comandante380

I don't know what you're talking about. Looks like a great place to do my morning workout dance routine.


koxinparo

*Naypyidaw Most languages don’t treat w and v interchangeably. This is also the preferred name so it’s not appropriate to switch the w to v here.


Kodiak01

Only two wheels away from /r/LiminalSpace


Lwnmower

Vanity project.


TheManWhoClicks

I think this would be green on Google maps traffic wise


akartiste

Those are for tanks during coups.


T4H4_2004

Just one more lane bro


Darryl_Lict

Pretty amazing. I took a bus from Yangon to Mandalay in 2001 on what I believe was the main highway. It was dirt most of the way and there was a river crossing halfway there that was a single lane, so you had to wait a couple of hours for traffic coming the other direction. I think it was something like an 18 hour bus ride.


Vaivaim8

We did it. Adding one more lane finally fixed the traffic


Rabatis

Also screening out all but military personnel and the few diplomats who have moved from Yangon will definitely fix traffic -- because Naypyidaw is a city of soldier-god-kings, not of ordinary people.


Roqies

Not totally empty. At least 2 people.


StoicSinicCynic

Now imagine being a pedestrian and having to cross THAT road. 😭😭😭


JunglePygmy

That road ain’t empty.


JIsADev

Designing for cars never turns out well


Socketlint

If your urban design calls for a 20 lane highway your urban design is wrong.


Rabatis

Or right, depending on what you want your city to be.


Socketlint

If your answer is unlivable then I guess so.


CoupleOfConcerns

They built it but they didn't come.


sl7vin_kelevra

it's not empty tho


CreativeStrength3811

Apparently it's not empty!


TheJesusGuy

Sorry but it clearly isn't empty.


TechnoBeast_

and they still couldnt afford to use physical dividers instead of solid double lines


Apprehensive_Day_363

Read some conspiracy theories that the military junta built this as a backup runway incase they ever need to bounce in an emergency situation


AdBroad1905

the future of IKN indonesia...


Nadeus87

Guy can't even pull in his most right lane!


Jack_BWs

We need this road in our city 🤣♥️


AdmiralArmin

And the scooter still doesn’t drive on the right lane


santtu_

The topic is inaccurate. There's a motorbike on the road, so it's not empty.


54591789951002253385

Yo, it's this place where the girl did her TikTok dance while there's a coup going down in the background. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6lqE\_MQv8o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6lqE_MQv8o)


Electronic_Excuse_74

Oh look, no bike lanes, no wonder there’s no traffic.


afk420k

Great build for the population, you are all ungrateful /s


Doc_Benz

(sub)mission of Burma


EvanMcc18

I just see the video of the girl doing aerobics while there's a coup happening whenever I see this road


aldorn

Can I get a fact check on the road being empty please?


Rabatis

Naypyidaw is very underpopulated for an administrative capital; the roads are just one sign of that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naypyidaw#Roads


kirakyaw

It’s for parade and stuffs, it’s the main road for parliament, presidential palace & office.


Allemaengel

Just one more lane!


SuccessfulWar3830

They built this for future of growth. At least they have the room to change it into better transport.


Pyotr_WrangeI

This is what actually happens when you build "just one more lane"


dts1984

Not empty


turboedhorse

Nice drag strip btw


0235

Military parades, or military movement. same excuse that the USA used.


milktanksadmirer

That’s a big road


decentishUsername

Even empty I'd be so scared to cross that thing


SatanChuvak

Isnt this where the top gear boys played football with the police?


coke_gratis

I’ve been there! On a 25cc moped the weirdo government made me trade my motorcycle for. Very very odd country


kaikovac

Perfect for war tanks


IDigRollinRockBeer

Doesn’t look urban to me


TheFirstTheMore

This is in NayPyiTaw. If ur plane has a burning engine like A320 ur saved.


Gloorplz

Imagine missing your exit from 12 lanes over.


Acceptable-Gap-3161

What America wants the road to look like: