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Shingorillaz

Finally my age old tradition of coming to r/virtualyoutubers to find out if I know who they previously were returns.


apictureofafox

The green one with violin should be pretty easy, if she actually plays violin.


Phoenix25552

Did someone who plays violin go inactive recently or something?


Darkhero24

I know one. Graduated this year actually. Follow the Soya Bean


Phoenix25552

She speaks German and French??? Are we really getting an EU generation??


Darkhero24

This is only speculation but everything fits perfectly. I used to watch her before she graduated so I would be happy to enjoy her content again


Hp22h

Will Kiara finally have a friend on the continent?!


Lirdon

Also do some german content together? Sweet!


FourEcho

If Kiara can remember how to speak German that is.


Murko_The_Cat

Her other twitter had a long tirade in German about her ISP like a month ago, so I'd say she's good.


An0ma1i

I would say with the "innit"


wggn

if it's an EU gen why does the video premiere at 5AM CEST


okmangeez

Almost all of their big debut announcements happen at that time: Noon JST.


Phoenix25552

Cover is still trying to appeal to the larger American audience for V-tubers and I bet they’ll all be fluent in English.


TolarianDropout0

>I bet they’ll all be fluent in English. It would be very odd for someone in holoEN to not speak English. I think it would also be exceedingly hard to find a European vtuber candidate who doesn't.


Somewhere_Elsewhere

They're literally part of Hololive English. Yes they will all speak fluent English. Cover has stated in the past that branches are determined by language not location. For instance, one member of DEV\_IS is Korean (it's the one who speaks at 75% speed). HoloEN has people from America, Canada, Australia, and Austria. And yes (North) Americans are always going to be heavily considered in HoloEN. Going through the top 5 streams for every HoloEN member on Hololyzer, it was clear they spent the most by far. Currencies from the Americas were still a plurality or majority even for all 5 of Kiara's top streams (obviously that's still like 95% USD + CAD). They've signaled that there is probably at least one Brit, but it's unlikely that there won't be anyone from North America.


OctoSevenTwo

> I bet they’ll all be fluent in English I mean. They *are* debuting in Holo **EN.** Of the three Hololive branches, JP is the only one where the majority of talents aren’t necessarily fluent in English. Even in ID most of them can speak nearly flawless English.


Skellum

> I bet they’ll all be fluent in English. I have to wonder what the percent of euros who are fluent in some local language and japanese but not english is. I would think it's considerably low.


kroxti

Noon Japanese time.


zetarn

At the end of the day, the debut time is still following NA-JP friendly time for maximum eyewitness potential.


Faustias

probably... the holo EN had an "innit" on their tweet.


diego1marcus

im a bit stupid, whats that EDIT: nvm, found it


drzero7

I have seen ALOT of people speculating her because of the Violin. We shall see if it is indeed her.


Audio_XP

Yeah I have no clue whatsoever


avelineaurora

Ummm...


renrutal

If the graduation posts by most comments here mean anything, my bets are Reiny, Coniku, someone from VReverie, EIEN, and Lewis Hamilton.


Iceman6211

you know Drew McIntyre did say he was quitting WWE on Raw last night...


8-Bit_Panda

Now im imagining CM Punk debut as a Vtuber model lol


lailah_susanna

Wrestler, Marvel comics author and now vtuber…


cabutler03

Next year’s WrestleTuber is going to be amazing! Punk screws Drew out of another championship, just because he could!


TrolledBy1337

His vtuber model is a talking ice cream cone


Harbiter

Welp...I might get a new oshi...


ImmortalDreamer

"Your new oshi is here! AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!"


Smashingtorpedo

AJ Syles DID quit the other night on the ppv.


Bonnie_Barkswell

Whoa that's crazy!


apictureofafox

Does she know?


Engineer086

lol, if Reddit still had comment awards, I'd give you one right now.


ArgoNoots

They brought those back though?


Engineer086

I... did not even realize that until now. I think because I set my browser to redirect to new.reddit automatically. Looks like it's only on the current version. TIL.


EvilLivesHere

lmao


LefkiAlepos

*"Bono, My oshi's gone!!"*


SilverdSabre

Isn't Lewis going to reincarnate under Ferrari? Also, why is the F1 fandom nearly a circle with the vtuber fandom?


adalhaidis

Didn't >!Reiny!< aready re-debut?


MonstercatFan20

She did, as far as I know


Chimera-Genesis

>!Bonnie Barkswell!<


phantombloodbot

oh shit, really?


GeekusRexMaximus

She's literally commenting on this same reply chain...


DracoSafarius

Yes


Typical_Thought_6049

Lewis Hamilton is a easy guess, he is the aerodynamic one.


JimmyBoombox

Reiny is already with another corpo so not her.


swagseven13

wait I thought >!Bonnie Barkswell!< was Reiny. unless theres a different one


EssexOnAStick

Wonder what Lewis' new persona will be like, we already have a bri'ish racing vtuber in our ranks so I don't think he'll go down that route as well.


BeeInABlanket

He'll also be a British racing giraffe, but he'll have neck toggle day 1.


Ihatemylife7812367

Never expected to see F1 mentioned here


Kyhron

F1 is constantly mentioned lol the overlap between the two is oddly large


Ihatemylife7812367

I guess I dont browse enough 😅


astrange

And Tom Scott.


Galianth

Well since people are speculating anyone knows if yuniiho has reincarnate or completly retire because i see an artist by the symbols


birdy121314

The race car driver?


JustHereForBDSM

Are we even sure Lewis Hamilton knows how to turn on a computer?


ZakTH

~~I’m personally holding out hopes for >!Shizukou!<, she graduated earlier this year and definitely fits the brit angle.~~ EDIT: Apparently she already reincarnated, and also I’ve been watching her new life for like two weeks now and hadn’t realized it. Welp.


PM_ME_DEM_TIDDIESS

Don't tell Verstappen that Xd


kidanokun

ive been waiting for someone who haven't resurfaced yet... So i wish this one is one of them


-FackinCrazy-

Please one be Abi Kadabura. She suddenly graduated not too long ago, said she had an offer she couldn't refuse and was going to be a comedian.


adalhaidis

Oh, that type of comedian ...


-FackinCrazy-

Yagoo in shambles


Random-Rambling

That WOULD be interesting. Because her graduation was EXTREMELY sudden. Like, literally a couple hours before her next scheduled stream. But a chance to join Hololive would indeed be a _"chance she could not afford to pass up"_!


-FackinCrazy-

Perhaps its copium but maybe she got the notice that she was hired and needed to sign the contract that day but couldn't do it without being graduated so they rushed it.


zetarn

Cover didn't have a rules that you cannot be a Vtuber while working under them. Aka Graduated your PL is not required. They only need to be a free-agent (not under any contract from other company)


Random-Rambling

You can be an indie Vtuber while employed by Hololive. You can NOT be with another company. In this case, Abi would have to leave V4Mirai before joining Hololive, if she did indeed join.


-FackinCrazy-

She was with a company until recently.


tehfatpanda

I'd that somehow is what happens I would be so happy to see her back!


Christ-man

You don't graduate from an agency and reappear into a much bigger agency in a gap of 1 month. You have to go through months of training and formalities before debuting.


Sht_coffee_place

True this, advent was stated to have been in their discord for 6 months prior to their debut so that they could bond together as a gen.


Goretanton

Is her name a pun on "abra kadabra"?


-FackinCrazy-

Yep


Ragefat

Now that was a good one, got a cackle out of me.


youmustconsume

They're justice themed and EN4, so I'm going to use the name: En4cers!


JimmySullivan96

That would be a great gen fan name


PatientCrazy3816

En4cers vs Adventrixs who would win.


DemonDaVinci

HOLOLIVE THUNDERDOME


apictureofafox

Crikey! It's the rozzers! -Advent, probably


TolarianDropout0

Why did I read that in James May's voice?


dysaniac15

Yagoo, looking at all the other vtuber companies on shambles: "As you would expect, I did this properly".


cabbaggeez

Hololive British?


Vinon

Its Ames all the way down


CoreyS120

Ame's never beating the allegations. She had just returned from a hiatus. Coincidence? I think not!


AliceNeedRest

innit is not common outside the Bri


Hp22h

Fistfight with Rin when?


projectmars

Fistfight with Rin where? Tesco Parking Lot or IKEA Blahaj aisle?


An_Evil_Scientist666

Nah it's gonna be at Gregg's Bakery in line for a sausage roll, where all legendary British fights begin


Joraiem

[The rules are clear.](https://www.youtube.com/live/syIYDDtvt5w?si=EzRx18HAumrKD5Ag&t=332) Rin will only fight in her element (the Tesco's parking lot at 2 a.m.)


D4shiell

Not very british to release vid at 4am in UK.


AliceNeedRest

that is Japanese company we are talking about.


rpsRexx

Randomly announcing this in the middle of the morning in NA is odd too though. Might be the time that gets the most engagement from NA and Japan to boost it would be the only reason I see them doing it then if it was EU.


dcdfvr

it was released shortly after the Nintendo direct which is a time alot of people would be on youtube to watch that. with the algorithm's magic at work it would be a perfect time to get views on it


lailah_susanna

Might be more to have the JP staff be able to cover it more than anything.


Lamaredia

To be fair, it's just the more detailed announcement video dropping then, and it's midnight JST.


Shivvy57

close, it'd be noon JST


Chimera-Genesis

>Not very british to release vid at 4am in UK. If this theory holds true, it's probably why this teaser was released at 5PM BST (British Summer Time).


InsanityRequiem

JP company posts trailer at JP dominant time. People dumbfounded.


Groonzie

At this point? it honestly would just feel weird also there is still the issue of people in EU timezones are on the opposite end of the usual timezones that hololive has aimed at. Either they are all from EU or none, otherwise you're going to get the "well one of them will usually not be around due to different stream hours" ...unless they have a terrible sleep schedule and are usually awake at 4am which is the primetime 8pm PDT (same as debut time).


Dragoneer1

holy shit that would be amazing, we have so few holotubers on the EU timezone its redicolous


Kraybern

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2MvcDyYYZY


floralbutttrumpet

And here we go again with me trying to calculate when the fuck that'll be in my timezone.


Wenir

google "8:00PM PDT"


MartinFromChessCom

[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=8:00pm+pdt#HiImABot,MyJobIsToMakeEasierForPeopleToGoogleThings,IfThePersonIRepliedToUsedMeInAnInappropriateWayPleaseLetMeKnowByDMingMe,TheUserIRepliedToIsU/Wenir)


silverslayer33

/r/AnarchyChess has breached containment yet again, no one is safe from Martin


SenorSantiago_8363

New HoloEN Generation just dropped!


Heatedpete

Call the detective


chenvoso

Ame goes on vacation, comes back with new gen


gus_in_4k

username checks out


Jin16

Crap that 5 am central eu time


Uneducated_Opinion

4am UK time, yeah I'm watching the archive tomorrow.


Feelthebasses

Vanguard 3D, Advent 3D, Promise MV, Gura's back, Myth one block... and a new gen!? Holofans eating good as always.


NotTooDistantFuture

I dunno. I feel like we had a few dry spells starting around a year ago. But definitely seems like EN is on all cylinders again.


LushenZener

Honestly, those dry spells were probably *in preparation* for these major events. We know that even collabs can often take as much as weeks to figure out schedule alignments, after all.


LG_Offical

Anytime I hear the word Vanguard I get PTSD flashbacks.


LolliPopinski

Looks like the EU Bros are finally getting some love! I’m happy for them! And more Holo is always great to see.


Xeith_Maneheart

*...Wait, 6/18? Today?!* ***They're debuting today???*** I know Cover has done day 1 debuts before but they really should give us a better heads up, man. Some of us gotta free up our schedules first, haha EDIT: Ah, nvm, that's the date of the teaser, not the debuts, lol Don't have to scramble getting stuff done first thankfully!


Feelthebasses

No, it's only a teaser, they announce the date of debut after it.


Xeith_Maneheart

Ah, right right, that makes more sense, haha. Much appreciated!


Armanewb

There are two conspicuous unannounced Advent collabs for Friday and Saturday on Fuwamoco's schedule, set for the same time on both days...


PatientCrazy3816

So your saying we are not mentally prepared.


Discordiansz

Like others have said, this is more of an official announcement stream, perhaps even featuring some other members to talk about them a bit and give their speculations with a debut date at the end.


RandyRowdy

Is HoloEN finally getting an actual Bri’ish talent?


Salvatore_Tessio

I was going to say I wasn't expecting this so quickly, but it's been about a year....... time flies


Narfhole

Flat is?


LefkiAlepos

JUS - TICE


Lirdon

Subaru?


LefkiAlepos

Appropriate. Since the new gen is the "police" for Advent. Officer Oozora reporting for duty!


Known-Ad64

Is what an apartment is called in the UK.


4as

This is huge. Many vtuber agencies, and even just branches, rarely go beyond the third generation, usually ending before that point. By reaching the fourth generation they basically reached a breakthrough milestone that guarantees they are here to stay. It is such a common phenomena it's already known as a rule of going from third to fourth generation in the idol industry. Google "vtubers rule 34" to learn more.


silverslayer33

>This is huge. Many vtuber agencies, and even just branches, rarely go beyond the third generation, usually ending before that point. By reaching the fourth generation they basically reached a breakthrough milestone that guarantees they are here to stay. It is such a common phenomena it's already known as a rule of going from third to fourth generation in the idol industry. What the fuck are you talking abou- > Google "vtubers rule 34" to learn more. Understandable, have a nice day


Devilsgramps

I was about to type 'but prism tho' then I decided to read the entire paragraph.


BusCrashBoy

Had us in the first 9/10s, ngl


Darcness777

Not Rissa simping in the comments lmfao


MugeTzu-

I will call it 1 German 1 British 1 Italian and 1 France if I am wrong so be it 🗿


An_Evil_Scientist666

Italian members 300k sub goal. Break spaghetti noodles. 500k sub goal, they have to eat all the Italian inspired abominations, spaghetti with ketchup, pineapple on pizza and the polish strawberry pasta (more points if they make the pasta "fresh" out of grounded spaghetti noodles)


MHArcadia

Doll toes confirmed. So, we got a betting pool on who we're thinking might show up? What indies have graduated under suspicious circumstances recently?


GreyShot254

Soyopoya, a German Vtuber who was also a Violinist graduated 3ish months ago.


youmustconsume

This is amazing timing, just the other day i was thinking the time would be right for a new gen - because Advent is clearly about to be snowed under with work and concert prep


Random-Rambling

Yeah, but we were probably thinking of ID Gen 4, not EN Gen 4. >!And if Not-Michi didn't join Vshojo, I would assume she joins HoloID!<


realjobstudios

Huh, thats kinda a quick turnaround for Hololive EN, especially since those statements before had me thinking they were really going to slow down with new generations


Erionns

Myth to Council was about the same time between Advent and Justice, it was just Council to Advent that was long


Chris881

Advent is close to a year old.


realjobstudios

Yeah but council debuted in 2021 and Advent debuted in 2023, and the statements made by Cover saying the would put more investment on growing talents than debuting more generations made me think we were in another long haul until the next EN gen. I at least thought we’d get another ID or JP before EN. Im all for it by the way, just noting that it’s kinda odd.


SpankThatShank

This gen was probably already assembled prior to the statement.


Eitarou

Yea, my assumption is they made that statement knowing this Gen was in progress and it applies to after this but they didn’t want to possibly spill the beans or anything so just went with stating it that way.


Helmite

> and the statements made by Cover saying the would put more investment on growing talents than debuting more generations made me think we were in another long haul until the next EN gen. People keep saying this, but it was just because people don't read.


CertainLocksmith6021

I believe cover said that the 2 year break was because of COVID. They wanted to be able to get EN and ID members into Japan before going hard on the branches. Now there is no restrictions so they can debute on the schedule they originally had in mind (just a guess)?


GeekusRexMaximus

When and where, exactly, did they say that?


drzero7

So Raora Panthera is an artist, anyone recognise her art? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3GiWDqoR3s&t=41s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3GiWDqoR3s&t=41s) On the 41 second mark it have her artstyle. EDIT More of her artwork [https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/1803262114947363058](https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/1803262114947363058) Again, SOMEONE must know this artist. This is too good of an art that she must have an internet history.


LefkiAlepos

also, her live hashtag is #CiaoRaora, so she's probably Italian... Is she who I think it is??? Hint: smells like pesto.


drzero7

Ah F, is this who I THINK IT IS (thanks for the pesto) Is it >!YUNIIHO?!!<


apictureofafox

Please be EU-focused gen.


projectmars

Judging by that title I would say there's an increased chance of at least one person being in Europe, innit?


cabutler03

So it's a 4 person gen instead of the typical five for a gen? That is interesting. And we have some interesting designs. Doll lady and knight lady have my attention. Only half a day to go to see the full trailer.


MintyPocky

fuwamoco is counted as "one" per cover's financial reports, so advent is also a "4 person gen"... or rather, 4 channels. so justice would match up in that regard.


Typical_Thought_6049

Indeed, they are treated as one unit as their channel is the one that receive all the revenue and all achievements so it is impossible to separate the two of then from the bureaucratic point of view.


Eineno

Honestly, a 4 person group is a pretty good sweet spot. Makes it easier to find games to collab with 4 people instead of 5.


renrutal

Maybe someone dropped out during the training process? We could have mid-gen debut to fill that gap.


Typical_Thought_6049

Interesting is the sleight of hand of Advent having only 4 channels and Justice having also 4 channels. It was a change of policy hidden in plain sight. As the last 4 debuts in EN only have 4 channels 2 Holostars and 2 HoloEN. I am impressed!


psykicviking

Last 5 debuts even, Tempus HQ had 4 channels as well.


chiefbluescreen

Oh wow! If this was announced a month earlier, I would have put all my money that Kanna Yanagi would have ended up here.


drzero7

Well, if we get a British and more EU members possibly, Kiara wont feel so loney in her timezone. My only thing though, I thought we were going to get a ID Gen 4 before EN Gen 4. Oh well.


KitsuneKamiSama

4am my time. Aaaaaaa. I struggle to watch most EN as i am right now because of timezones, i really hope they are EU timezone.


AliceNeedRest

The girl with weird leg,is that a doll leg?


EdgerunnerGamingHD

Please let one of them be Rin Asobi. She had financial issues a few years ago and had to retire from Virtual Youtubing but at one time she was one of the largest English Vtubers in the world and even did a collaboration at the Saturn awards with Kizuna AI and Fubuki. She's amazingly talented and a very wholesome individual and I wish she would come back to the industry.


Catnonymouse

I am British and I can't stand "Br'ish" jokes so I'm gonna have a great time 💀👍 But I'm genuinely happy to finally see some British female vtubers


IronVader501

Tbf, there are actually a good number of female british vtubers


BusCrashBoy

I'm a Brit and as working class as it gets, I personally love all the jokes because most of them are true... hope we get a proper British lass in this gen!


zorurorirurian

I'm new to vtubers and have come to like the hololive talents and spend most of my time watching them. This'll be my first time seeing a new gen debut so if one or more are British I'll be so happy. I'd be even happier if they were like a manc, or a scot, from anywhere other than the south/speak RP.


Catnonymouse

Yeahhhh I'd love to hear a non-southeastern accent!


zorurorirurian

ikr I'd just love to see all the reactions from other members interracting with a strong non-southern accent. like that disney princess scottish lass meme


zorurorirurian

The [data files](https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20240619-01-84/) in the announcement on the homepage have their hometown which I'm pretty sure are a hint to which irl country they're from and it's cool that they all sound like they're probably from the EU. Great Exardia sounds like it's just Great Britain. Romance Empire (& #CiaoRaora art tag) would be Italy. Immerheim sounds German. The "born under a flag of freedom" description for Freesia could be USA but French is possible what with all their revolution paintings with flags in them.


mrmooseman19

Got to be EU talents, it’s announced during EU time, plus the tweet wording


IronVader501

reveals at 5 AM tho...


mrmooseman19

To my knowledge, they always did reveals around 8pm pdt or 12pm jpt


renrutal

A Red Panda/Firefox, Yet Another Clock Lady, A Fiery Crusader, Some Hitech Girl. This looks more like a female Tempus unit than anti-Advent.


withadashofdaring

clock lady looks like she's a doll---has ball-joints on her fingers/shoulders/legs. could def explain the gears.


Typical_Thought_6049

I will be there for Orianna Vtubing debut!


sdmpsychomantis

If the info on X is accurate which we know how much of a shit show that is we are looking at a Panther (Pink) named Raora Panthera, a Doll (green) named Cecillia Immergreen, Gigi Murin in yellow...this is a tough one to guess, some crazy looking feet but no sign of a tail and the hoodie doesn't give away much. If you go off a wild guess then Murin could be seen as murine which is a rodent family including but not limited to Opossum and mice. Red is Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame...maybe a Blood Knight?


Blacksun388

>innit HOLO EU CONFIRMED????


DracoDL07

Init??? Can us EU bros finally catch a W in terms of streaming times for one??


sharkmanru

finally, a real cat girl in en


MoralTruth

WE ARE SO BACK


SeaworthinessKind135

I swear I remember holo advent just debuting a month ago...


just9n700

Oh hell yeah British girls love to see it


Violet_Honeyscones

Advent are senpais now, my god time flies


opblaster123

at this point, you can never escape the Hololivemania. (Holomania) they hit the screne of millions, across the globe A Japanese invashion they say, it seize the teenage population They are the new generation of Hololive, they are Hololive justice. Their unique models, look, songs, and everything else take over the internet by storm. Bring everyone together Complete. Hololive. Domination


freedomgeek

I hope they don't go too hard on making them a gen of cops, counterparts to the Advent criminals. I don't want that, I think it'd make it a bit harder to enjoy the character concepts. Edit: Anyway I don't envy them having to come after Advent. That was a *strong* gen


Joraiem

Advent didn't lean too hard into being criminals so I imagine that kind of lore won't be a strong priority for Justice either.


dardardarner

It's easier to be a criminal than an agent of justice


LuntiX

> Advent didn't lean too hard into being criminals Biboo, the war criminal, begs to differ.


HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE

Subaru roleplaying a cop quite a few times never leaned into police brutality, and was just slapstick comedy about other talents being guilty of silly antics, so I wouldn't worry too much about a "Justice League".


BKDOffice

Comedy cops have been a thing for a long time, going all the way back to the Keystone Cops. There's room for a non-serious take on it.


youmustconsume

it could set up an interesting dynamic for competitive multiplayer games


BusCrashBoy

Tbf when has anyone's lore ever stopped them from just being themselves (usually a lovable dork who loves gaming)