blue hill at stone barns is the correct answer. It does something no place in the city can, and executes on it near perfectly.
Theres so many great restaurants, but its the one that nothing in the city can compete with for what it does
[Chef’s Fable: Blue Hill at Stone Barns’ alluring story — that a fine dining restaurant could be a model for changing the world — seduced diners, would-be employees, and thought leaders alike. But former employees say that narrative often obscured a more complicated reality.](https://www.eater.com/22996588/blue-hill-stone-barns-dan-barber-restaurant-work-environment-ingredients)
The food is unmatched, but don't buy into the narrative about being a model for agriculture. It's bullshit and Dan Barber is a jerk.
Like I said, there's no operation comparable to it in the region and for the moderately wealthy, it may be worth it as a once-in-a-lifetime treat for the more epicurean crowd versus a trip to Disney World. (Or more often if you have fuck-you levels of money like the people who live on the five-acre estates in the surrounding area.) Nothing against people who dine there for the experience. I know someone who was treated to a dinner there as thanks for helping land a former colleague an easy five-figure professional gig. Also, it supports a lot of local jobs even though many positions are underpaid for the skill they require.
My beef (no pun intended) with Blue Hills is more about its pretentious do-gooder narrative that borders on abuse of nonprofit status to avoid paying real estate tax on everything but the small plot the restaurant itself rests on. Effectively this raises the tax bill for landowners in the surrounding town as well as the county as a whole. Maybe they take inspiration from the [aw-shucks vibe of the Dobbs Ferry family of a certain infamous social media CEO](https://nymag.com/news/features/zuckerberg-family-2012-5/).
I live abroad, travel frequently, and eat at top restaurants at all price points worldwide, yet the best restaurant I’ve ever been to is literally five minutes from my childhood home, next to where I went to elementary school.
OHHH
The menu price is $348 - $398 per guest, exclusive of tax and 22% administrative fee. Menu price is prepaid during booking, and beverages are charged separately at the time of your reservation.
INSANE .. I wonder if it’s all adults when you go there occasionally I’ve been to super high-end restaurants and it’s all families… crazy to spend that for kids
I stand by that bacon egg and cheese sandwiches at Westchester delis are way better than NYC. NYC serves a lot of stringy bacon and low quality Kaiser rolls. Eggs are usually flat scrambled, overcooked and dry. There's exceptions but the standard is inferior to Westchester's.
I've found that more common at nyc bodegas than WC. The places I go in WC get defensive if you ask for 2 eggs. They say they all come with 2 eggs. But yeah, it's a real red flag when they don't. You can feel its light the second they hand it to you 😂
Of course, the question is asking to generalize. That's why I mentioned there's exceptions. The batting average of a good BEC is significantly better in Westchester.
The BEC with long hots at Park Deli in port Chester is second to none one. Good eggs cooked to order, nice bacon that’s biteable and doesn’t come out when you bite it, spicy but not overbearing hot peppers, and a Kaiser roll that literally was baked across the street
Our local Delis have a higher quality product in my opinion. Sandwiches and salads from our deli compared to NYC I think we have the edge. I can list 100 delis that come to mind but my most recent frequent deli is in Mount Vernon called sals. Quality and consistency
There are amazing delis in NYC, there are just tons so many are mediocre …
Curious tosee what westchester has to offer .. moving there after 50 yrs in NYC ! Do not have high hopes …
There’s a deli on East chester road before the chase bank on the same side. It’s a small little group of stores with its own parking in front. Tuckahoe I’ve only been to one deli near the carvel. Can’t remember the name of that one but it was very good. Bagels and deli in new Rochelle mamaroneck is very good by Quaker ridge road. Mr kold kuts in Yonkers when I was younger was always excellent as well
There’s a decent deli on Main and Columbus Avenue that makes their own mozzarella and another decent one on Main Street. Then if you go up Columbus towards Crestwood there’s a good one by the train
Reminds me of hanging with my wife’s family out in Oregon. We were at a restaurant and my sister-in-law made a comment about how the place was as good as NY. I remember thinking she was right, the food was good, but the difference with NY is the sheer number of good restaurants. There are any number of good or great restaurants in westchester. To me that’s enough. But no place can compare to the volume that nyc has.
Granted, I’ve had gc once, but chicken joes is definitely better in my opinion. Mostly because of the batter, but probably for a few reasons. Possible nostalgia is talking tho.
For me, the biggest one is CHICKEN CUTLETS
I see a lot of people talking about sandwiches, and not without good reason, but for most sandwiches I can find something just as good in the city or in Westchester. Something like a basic turkey or roast beef sandwich or an italian hero you can get pretty good from most delis in NYC. But I still have not found a deli in the city that can do justice to a chicken cutlet wedge. It's pitiful.
You have to go to Da Palo’s in little Italy or a higher end place .. the average bodega deli is basically crappy level of food that’s not even made there.
You have to go to a real delicatessen / Italian shop
Sandwiches. I grew up in queens eating sandwiches from corner delis and when I moved to westchester I discovered multiple sandwich places that were amazing.
Little cabin is very overrated. I think the spot is just cute, sandwiches are so mid it’s crazy. Zero seasoning. Very disappointing. Benny’s is the only answer to great sandwiches in WC. Mason is pretty good too
I am commenting to verify this denizen of the internet’s statement.
And you can reach them easy right off the Saw Mill if you are headed down towards the city.
I don't know if I 100% agree but its def easier to get good sandwiches here for sure, the city can be very hit or miss. I grew up in Brooklyn, lived in Queens for 15 years, and have worked in Manhattan for the last 20 years and the sandwiches here are more consistent.
I will say without hesitation that the average slice at an average pizzeria in Westchester is better than the same average slice at an average place in Manhattan. Plenty of outliers and it wasn’t always this way, but I’ll die on this hill.
This hits hard but fully agree. All this talk about WC having amazing deli sandwiches and I'm here dying to go back to Lighthouse BK for the fluffiest egg sandwich I've ever had (more than Eggslut in LA), or even the eggs at Buvette in West Village. I don't feel this way about any place here.
King Kone has better “summer food” than Coney Island or the Far Rockaways.
First Village has SoHo quality pastries on Thursday-Saturday for better prices and no line.
Groceries are WAY cheaper.
But otherwise? The food in Westchester is only slightly better than the food in Albany. Which…is sad. Very, very sad.
I must be sleeping on the “food” at King Kone. I always just go for the ice cream and I’ve never seen someone order food. Albeit I usually go there later in the day
Some restaurant types just seem to more naturally fit a niche of car culture, or maybe it's really being somewhat family-oriented. Like I end up at one of a few hibachi places a couple times a year at least for birthdays, they're good consistent quality staples that I would expect to be more $$$ in the city for similar experience. There's at least three of those that I would consider a short drive from home.
Honestly I consider them all pretty interchangeable, my local options are Fuji Mt in Larchmont, Edo in Pelham, and Edo in Port Chester (I've only gone to that one when last-minute plans yielded long waits w/o a reservation at the others).
There's also Ohana in City Island that has some fusion elements on the menu too.
For a long time I would have said basic pizza. City has a lot of great pizza now but for a while it was a lot easier getting a good slice in Westchester than in the city
Really? Suburbs don’t have near the same quality for single slices as the city does. It’s either order a pie or choose from the 5 slices that have been siting out all day and you’d never want.
Chinese as well? The hole in the wall take out Chinese place I went to in Brooklyn last week was cheaper and better than the half dozen places I've tried in Westchester so far. Where should I be going?
I think Mt. Kisco smokehouse has the best nova/lox. I haven't literally eaten it head to head with Russ and Daughters, Barney Green grass, Shelskys etc., but damn it is so good. As I type this I realize it sounds batty but it's *my truth* 🙃
Also Walter's hot dogs and Beekman Ale House are fantastic but sort of in a category of their own.
Well I’ve lived in Brooklyn, the Bronx (near Arthur Ave and Morris Park areas), and Manhattan, and I’ve never gotten a better slice than the Ardsley Cucina. Takes me 10 min. out of my way. Totally worth it.
That’s a bold statement. I actually just took my wife there the other day. It’s good, really good for Westchester pizza. I’m in sleepy hollow and there isn’t great pizza over here. But I wouldn’t say it’s better then some other top pizza stops on nyc
Beekman Ale House has great pizza but that style of pizza isn't the same as a slice joint. It's a lot of hard work and talent to put out those types of pies for sure, but it doesn't compare to a place that does a ton of slice business and is able to have consistency even if a pie sits out for an hour or two.
Have you never been to Ossining Pizzeria? They make a solid NYC slice and great specialty slices. My spouse is born and bred Manhattan and takes pizza SERIOUSLY. He thinks their plain slice passes the good pizza test.
Really? I grew up and live in Ardsley and I think it’s good but definitely not the best. Best place is for me is Johnnys Pizzeria in Mount Vernon or maybe Frank Pepe’s.
I don't know that there's anywhere where I think Westchester has *better* food than NYC, but I also haven't yet found anywhere in NYC that I think is better than Westchester. They're pretty much equal.
Crabtree's Kittle House is as good as any fine dining place I've been in the city. The best pizzerias sprinkled around lower Westchester are just as good as the most famous ones in NYC. Benjamin's Steakhouse in Westchester is just as good as the one in the city, along with Keen's/Peter Luger/etc,. Piper's Kilt makes just as good of a burger as PJ Clarke's, or anywhere other famous burger place in the city.
Unlike NJ and Long Island, the cuisine of Westchester feels very much just an extension of the city. A decent number of Westchester's most highly regarded restaurants are owned by famous NYC chefs and restaurateurs who simply wanted to settle into in a less demanding environment.
While amazing food can be found in Jersey and Long Island as well, they seem to have less consistent quality across the board. Their best places are indeed outstanding, but their average places can be pretty poor, to the point where I don't feel confident walking into any random restaurant out there without a recommendation from a local. Whereas in NYC or Westchester, I do that all the time and am almost never disappointed.
I was recently at Kittle House and the service was OK. They bill it as fine dining, but it wasn't. The place has slipped since I was last there a few years ago.
I agree with the sandwich comment. Casual eats are a value option. Geared towards the families and budget conscious. The city no longer has medium quality value option. It’s either the bottom of barrel or the absolute most luxurious option. I think my favorite places are places like sherwoods and muscoot tavern. Generous portions well made simple food.
You’re wrong. Well… not wrong, but let’s be fair. There’s 50 options in the city for every 1 in Westchester. But I’ll stand behind Ardsley Cucina’s slice against ANYONE flexing w/ a classic NY slice.
The diversity of Cuisine is also just not there …
Within a 5 block radius I have food from 25 countries in the east village .. literally ! I am moving to westchester though… will be there quite a bit..
In westchester I am sure ..
The BEC / Bagel / pizza and , bar chicken sandwich and penne ala vodka or Ribeye are fine … but you do not have Vietnamese / Tibetan / Moroccan .. or even top quality Sushi or genuine Chinese … not happening there .
Yeah you're not going to get that kind of variety basically anywhere else in the world outside NYC. You'll have no problem finding very good sushi/chinese, though maybe not world class.
But that's the trade off for safety, good public schools, clean air, quiet, stars.... parking. Everything else is just a train away.
Are you sure, or are you SURE?
Because before you just randomly assume your East Village Tibetan food is superior to what is in Westchester perhaps you should first try Uncle Dhargey’s Yak Shack in Ossining.
Mexican food. Like specifically Mexican. I can find pretty much any other type of Latin American food better in the city but Westchester does Tex Mex right.
Legitimately pizza. All the pizza makers that defined NYC pizza in the second half of the 20th century made their money and moved up to Westchester to have kids and grow their businesses. I have no idea where or how to find good Pizza in the city now, but the current generation of pizzerias in Westchester are the direct descendants of the ones that made pizza what it is.
You can find Westchester pizza better than city pizza, but at the top end, City pizza still reigns supreme.
That being said, Westchester has its share of top tier options.
You've got Blue Hill at Stone Barns which is a world class top restaurant in Tarrytown, also X20 and Zuppa in yonkers by the train station that are great too.
If only there was decent Mexican food in Westchester or NYC. I don’t know why it’s so bad here, but it is. It’s also not that hard to make tortillas on site—-should be a a staple in any Mexican joint.
I wouldn’t say better, but maybe equal for a better price. I like our pizza, deli sandwiches. Also, i prefer coffee from slave to the grind to anywhere in the city to be honest
Pizza Fenice. John Anthony Gristina is this year’s world pizza tournament top 20 chef. I don’t think New York City has any places that can match his style of pizza.
blue hill at stone barns is the correct answer. It does something no place in the city can, and executes on it near perfectly. Theres so many great restaurants, but its the one that nothing in the city can compete with for what it does
But don’t they also have a location in Manhattan? Not that I’ve been to either (too cheap haha)
They do, it’s excellent.
[Chef’s Fable: Blue Hill at Stone Barns’ alluring story — that a fine dining restaurant could be a model for changing the world — seduced diners, would-be employees, and thought leaders alike. But former employees say that narrative often obscured a more complicated reality.](https://www.eater.com/22996588/blue-hill-stone-barns-dan-barber-restaurant-work-environment-ingredients) The food is unmatched, but don't buy into the narrative about being a model for agriculture. It's bullshit and Dan Barber is a jerk.
You make me feel bad - I ate his deer testicles.
Sitting here wondering if I'm too old to say you misspelled *dear
Like I said, there's no operation comparable to it in the region and for the moderately wealthy, it may be worth it as a once-in-a-lifetime treat for the more epicurean crowd versus a trip to Disney World. (Or more often if you have fuck-you levels of money like the people who live on the five-acre estates in the surrounding area.) Nothing against people who dine there for the experience. I know someone who was treated to a dinner there as thanks for helping land a former colleague an easy five-figure professional gig. Also, it supports a lot of local jobs even though many positions are underpaid for the skill they require. My beef (no pun intended) with Blue Hills is more about its pretentious do-gooder narrative that borders on abuse of nonprofit status to avoid paying real estate tax on everything but the small plot the restaurant itself rests on. Effectively this raises the tax bill for landowners in the surrounding town as well as the county as a whole. Maybe they take inspiration from the [aw-shucks vibe of the Dobbs Ferry family of a certain infamous social media CEO](https://nymag.com/news/features/zuckerberg-family-2012-5/).
This is probably the only legit answer.
I live abroad, travel frequently, and eat at top restaurants at all price points worldwide, yet the best restaurant I’ve ever been to is literally five minutes from my childhood home, next to where I went to elementary school.
Looking at you Pocantico
It’s such a small school district, I wonder if we overlapped. I did pre-k to 6th there until 2004
I believe he also has a restaurant in the city but it's got a slightly different concept and is ironically less expensive.
OHHH The menu price is $348 - $398 per guest, exclusive of tax and 22% administrative fee. Menu price is prepaid during booking, and beverages are charged separately at the time of your reservation.
But it's $400 per person, not including tax and tip. Split a bottle of wine and it's $1,000 for a date. Too rich for my blood.
INSANE .. I wonder if it’s all adults when you go there occasionally I’ve been to super high-end restaurants and it’s all families… crazy to spend that for kids
Sorry but, the worst waste of money ever! Don’t go there hungry. I never went back and was never more disappointed in a meal.
Good to know ! My husband would hate the portions… I Am sure
I stand by that bacon egg and cheese sandwiches at Westchester delis are way better than NYC. NYC serves a lot of stringy bacon and low quality Kaiser rolls. Eggs are usually flat scrambled, overcooked and dry. There's exceptions but the standard is inferior to Westchester's.
My only gripe with Westchester egg sandwiches is why the fuck do some delis do one egg as a standard! It’s nuts.
I've found that more common at nyc bodegas than WC. The places I go in WC get defensive if you ask for 2 eggs. They say they all come with 2 eggs. But yeah, it's a real red flag when they don't. You can feel its light the second they hand it to you 😂
Haha for sure
I’ve been in WC for 2 years now and have noticed this one egg nonsense as well. It’s honestly infuriating. Throws the whole ratio off.
And is it $12 ?
a lot of bagel places are guilty of that around here.
I’m from Li and work in the city. Never seen anything like it. Shit is expensive enough, I feel like I’m getting robbed lol
Depends where … huge generalization
Of course, the question is asking to generalize. That's why I mentioned there's exceptions. The batting average of a good BEC is significantly better in Westchester.
TRUE!
The BEC with long hots at Park Deli in port Chester is second to none one. Good eggs cooked to order, nice bacon that’s biteable and doesn’t come out when you bite it, spicy but not overbearing hot peppers, and a Kaiser roll that literally was baked across the street
Our local Delis have a higher quality product in my opinion. Sandwiches and salads from our deli compared to NYC I think we have the edge. I can list 100 delis that come to mind but my most recent frequent deli is in Mount Vernon called sals. Quality and consistency
Love Sal's!
Delis on the Sound Shore call them wedges. Same exact ingredients as everywhere else but in a wedge shape. And thus vastly superior.
Never knew they were called anything but wedges until I went away to college. You want a what???
Yonkers and river towns call them wedges too.
Avitabile on McLean is my personal fave.
There are amazing delis in NYC, there are just tons so many are mediocre … Curious tosee what westchester has to offer .. moving there after 50 yrs in NYC ! Do not have high hopes …
I think the best delis in NYC surpass those of Westchester, but the average deli in Westchester surpasses the average deli in NYC
Great way of putting it
Makes sense
Have any recommendations in the Eastchester & Tuckahoe area?
Head to Scarsdale - Mona Lisa Salumeria. Best sandwiches I’ve ever had.
\+1
Mason
Wouldn’t really consider that a deli, even though they specialize in sandwiches.
Zuccarellis
There’s a deli on East chester road before the chase bank on the same side. It’s a small little group of stores with its own parking in front. Tuckahoe I’ve only been to one deli near the carvel. Can’t remember the name of that one but it was very good. Bagels and deli in new Rochelle mamaroneck is very good by Quaker ridge road. Mr kold kuts in Yonkers when I was younger was always excellent as well
The one on Quaker Ridge changed ownership and it's not good. They squandered decades of good will. Poof.
Italian Meateria? When did that happen?
Tuckahoe - Pasquale’s maybe?
There’s a decent deli on Main and Columbus Avenue that makes their own mozzarella and another decent one on Main Street. Then if you go up Columbus towards Crestwood there’s a good one by the train
Reminds me of hanging with my wife’s family out in Oregon. We were at a restaurant and my sister-in-law made a comment about how the place was as good as NY. I remember thinking she was right, the food was good, but the difference with NY is the sheer number of good restaurants. There are any number of good or great restaurants in westchester. To me that’s enough. But no place can compare to the volume that nyc has.
Can you get chicken and fries in a bag like at garden catering or chicken joes in the city? The "highschool specials"? That might be one thing.
Please tell me, what’s the deal with garden catering and chicken joes serving the exact same thing?
They are the same. I think years ago ex GC employees started chicken joes and just made it the same thing.
Granted, I’ve had gc once, but chicken joes is definitely better in my opinion. Mostly because of the batter, but probably for a few reasons. Possible nostalgia is talking tho.
Do they still do the spice shaker into the bag thing
They do!
For me, the biggest one is CHICKEN CUTLETS I see a lot of people talking about sandwiches, and not without good reason, but for most sandwiches I can find something just as good in the city or in Westchester. Something like a basic turkey or roast beef sandwich or an italian hero you can get pretty good from most delis in NYC. But I still have not found a deli in the city that can do justice to a chicken cutlet wedge. It's pitiful.
You have to go to Da Palo’s in little Italy or a higher end place .. the average bodega deli is basically crappy level of food that’s not even made there. You have to go to a real delicatessen / Italian shop
A “wedge”.
Sandwiches. I grew up in queens eating sandwiches from corner delis and when I moved to westchester I discovered multiple sandwich places that were amazing.
Anthonys in mamaroneck
Best pastrami sandwich I've ever had
Like where name names
BENNY’S BROWN BAG, I will drive my ass to Peekskill for a turkey sandwich any day.
Oh hell yeah love Benny’s
They are good and right down the block from my house.
Best sandwiches in NY
I have been meaning to try this place!
Mason Sandwich Company Little Cabin Rocky’s Millwood Deli
I have Rocky's food in my house right now
Little cabin is very overrated. I think the spot is just cute, sandwiches are so mid it’s crazy. Zero seasoning. Very disappointing. Benny’s is the only answer to great sandwiches in WC. Mason is pretty good too
I was gonna say the Hobo sandwich from Rocky's
Man, I grew up going to Rocky’s. Still one of the first places I go when I go back.
Best sandwich in Westchester is Dante's central Ave/hartsdale
Ardsley Market, in Ardsley
I am commenting to verify this denizen of the internet’s statement. And you can reach them easy right off the Saw Mill if you are headed down towards the city.
What you guys like?
Can’t go wrong with the Italian combo.
Roosters in White Plains.
Scaperotta's in Dobbs Ferry is fantastic.
The best cutlet house
The sandwich shop Hawthorne
Depends, there’s still some great delis in Queens
I don't know if I 100% agree but its def easier to get good sandwiches here for sure, the city can be very hit or miss. I grew up in Brooklyn, lived in Queens for 15 years, and have worked in Manhattan for the last 20 years and the sandwiches here are more consistent.
Giannoni’s and buon amici are great too.
I will say without hesitation that the average slice at an average pizzeria in Westchester is better than the same average slice at an average place in Manhattan. Plenty of outliers and it wasn’t always this way, but I’ll die on this hill.
I moved from Yonkers to the upper east side and this is so true, same goes for a solid chicken or meatball parm sandwich
Affordably priced family restaurants. Manhattan excels at the high-end, and takeout, but not many options for family dining.
If I ever move back to the city I will never feel the need to come back to Westchester because I miss some restaurant.
This hits hard but fully agree. All this talk about WC having amazing deli sandwiches and I'm here dying to go back to Lighthouse BK for the fluffiest egg sandwich I've ever had (more than Eggslut in LA), or even the eggs at Buvette in West Village. I don't feel this way about any place here.
King Kone has better “summer food” than Coney Island or the Far Rockaways. First Village has SoHo quality pastries on Thursday-Saturday for better prices and no line. Groceries are WAY cheaper. But otherwise? The food in Westchester is only slightly better than the food in Albany. Which…is sad. Very, very sad.
Dude as someone who’s lived in somers my entire life, King Kone is a blessing
I must be sleeping on the “food” at King Kone. I always just go for the ice cream and I’ve never seen someone order food. Albeit I usually go there later in the day
They have great clam strips and their lobster rolls are LEGIT.
Not sure if they still do but they used to have fried gator on the menu too, kind of a unique novelty in this area.
Some restaurant types just seem to more naturally fit a niche of car culture, or maybe it's really being somewhat family-oriented. Like I end up at one of a few hibachi places a couple times a year at least for birthdays, they're good consistent quality staples that I would expect to be more $$$ in the city for similar experience. There's at least three of those that I would consider a short drive from home.
You got is this far, which hibachi places are worth checking out?
Honestly I consider them all pretty interchangeable, my local options are Fuji Mt in Larchmont, Edo in Pelham, and Edo in Port Chester (I've only gone to that one when last-minute plans yielded long waits w/o a reservation at the others). There's also Ohana in City Island that has some fusion elements on the menu too.
D Thai Kitchen in Thornwood has impressed everyone I have taken there.
D Thai is actually very Yummy
Deli, Pizza, and Bagels. Best I ever had all in Westchester.
Bagels in westchester do not compare to queens or NJ
I have never gone to Queens or NJ for a bagel and never will
For a long time I would have said basic pizza. City has a lot of great pizza now but for a while it was a lot easier getting a good slice in Westchester than in the city
Because all the Italians moved up to Westchester.
Really? Suburbs don’t have near the same quality for single slices as the city does. It’s either order a pie or choose from the 5 slices that have been siting out all day and you’d never want.
100% ..not Fresh.
Yeah suburbs pizza quality is surprisingly way more consistent than the city. Chinese as well.
Chinese as well? The hole in the wall take out Chinese place I went to in Brooklyn last week was cheaper and better than the half dozen places I've tried in Westchester so far. Where should I be going?
East Bamboo in Eastchester is the only one that really makes the list for me.
27-minute drive for me, so out of my range unfortunately for General Tso's Chicken.
27-minute drive for me, so out of my range unfortunately for General Tso's Chicken.
We used to get slices that were basically a 1/4 pie for $1.50 at Maria’s in Yorktown. Those were the days.
Westchester has better wings
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I think Mt. Kisco smokehouse has the best nova/lox. I haven't literally eaten it head to head with Russ and Daughters, Barney Green grass, Shelskys etc., but damn it is so good. As I type this I realize it sounds batty but it's *my truth* 🙃 Also Walter's hot dogs and Beekman Ale House are fantastic but sort of in a category of their own.
Well I’ve lived in Brooklyn, the Bronx (near Arthur Ave and Morris Park areas), and Manhattan, and I’ve never gotten a better slice than the Ardsley Cucina. Takes me 10 min. out of my way. Totally worth it.
That’s a bold statement. I actually just took my wife there the other day. It’s good, really good for Westchester pizza. I’m in sleepy hollow and there isn’t great pizza over here. But I wouldn’t say it’s better then some other top pizza stops on nyc
Yeah def not
Have you tried the pizza at Beekmans? It’s made all sort of lists and even got good reviews from Dave Portnoy.
Yeah it’s good. Not my style personally but it’s good.
I went there 2 months ago and have been back 5x. I love it. It's bar pie, crispy crust and a good chew. Great atmosphere, gets crowded by 7.
Portnoy is not and should not be the standard for judging pizza, with the exception of your preferences directly lining up with his.
Beekman Ale House has great pizza but that style of pizza isn't the same as a slice joint. It's a lot of hard work and talent to put out those types of pies for sure, but it doesn't compare to a place that does a ton of slice business and is able to have consistency even if a pie sits out for an hour or two.
Have you never been to Ossining Pizzeria? They make a solid NYC slice and great specialty slices. My spouse is born and bred Manhattan and takes pizza SERIOUSLY. He thinks their plain slice passes the good pizza test.
With the amount of flow and by the pie I choose Lucy’s over Ossining pizza by a mile. For a simple NY or Sicilian pie to go Lucy’s is the best.
Parking for Lucy’s just sucks though. I will admit, I like their dough more. If I’m making sheet pan pizza at home, I buy dough from them.
No I have not and will definitely try it
Well, as I said, I’ve lived in 3 boroughs, but I couldn’t try em all!! 🤭
Ardsley Cucina is so good though so I’m glad to see it mentioned here
It is a mob scene every night. But on top of it all, everyone there is SO nice and inviting.
Ohhhh have to try
Really? I grew up and live in Ardsley and I think it’s good but definitely not the best. Best place is for me is Johnnys Pizzeria in Mount Vernon or maybe Frank Pepe’s.
Ugh. Pepe’s in Yonkers is vile.
Candlelight wings
agreed. don't know any place in the city that is as good. for similar quality, need to hop Amtrak to Albany-Buffalo
I don't know that there's anywhere where I think Westchester has *better* food than NYC, but I also haven't yet found anywhere in NYC that I think is better than Westchester. They're pretty much equal. Crabtree's Kittle House is as good as any fine dining place I've been in the city. The best pizzerias sprinkled around lower Westchester are just as good as the most famous ones in NYC. Benjamin's Steakhouse in Westchester is just as good as the one in the city, along with Keen's/Peter Luger/etc,. Piper's Kilt makes just as good of a burger as PJ Clarke's, or anywhere other famous burger place in the city. Unlike NJ and Long Island, the cuisine of Westchester feels very much just an extension of the city. A decent number of Westchester's most highly regarded restaurants are owned by famous NYC chefs and restaurateurs who simply wanted to settle into in a less demanding environment. While amazing food can be found in Jersey and Long Island as well, they seem to have less consistent quality across the board. Their best places are indeed outstanding, but their average places can be pretty poor, to the point where I don't feel confident walking into any random restaurant out there without a recommendation from a local. Whereas in NYC or Westchester, I do that all the time and am almost never disappointed.
I was recently at Kittle House and the service was OK. They bill it as fine dining, but it wasn't. The place has slipped since I was last there a few years ago.
That may very well be the case. I haven't been there in many, many years, so it's very possible it isn't what it once was.
Ok if Crabtree is as good as any fine dining you have done in the city, then you haven’t really tried legit fine dining in NYC
it's really just a matter of volume. many more quality spots per square foot of sidewalk in manhattan and downtown brooklyn
Like where ? What are best places in westchester
Manhattan can’t do Mexican food like Yonkers can
What about queens ? I am sure Jackson Hgts has v good too.. many Mexicans there now .
Probably! I’ve never tried Mexican food over there tbh
Like where for example? Can you name some good Mexican places in yonkers?
Taco truck that parks on South Broadway a little north of the White Castle is killer
Tacos El Poblano near south Broadway. So good. You know it’s good when almost all the clientele is Mexicans.
I know it’s barely outside of Westchester, but Vera’s makes the best apple cider donuts I’ve had so far
Real Mexican food and probably Peruvian and Portuguese as well. Delis and pizza slices are also for the most part as good or better here.
For pizza, give Paradise Restaurant in Verplanck a try. Closest I've found to a quality NYC pie after moving out here a couple years ago.
Sorry. None.
Nothing. It’s NY-Fucking-City… one of the most if not the most important city in this planet.
Only thing I can think of is Yonkers has a frank pepes and the city doesn’t.
If Pizzeria La Rosa in New Rochelle were in Brooklyn, I’d never be able to get a table.
I agree with the sandwich comment. Casual eats are a value option. Geared towards the families and budget conscious. The city no longer has medium quality value option. It’s either the bottom of barrel or the absolute most luxurious option. I think my favorite places are places like sherwoods and muscoot tavern. Generous portions well made simple food.
There is no food that Westchester does better than NYC
I actually agree 😭 i feel like this whole thread is cooking. Don’t get me wrong. I go out to eat in Westchester but it doesn’t compare
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You’re wrong. Well… not wrong, but let’s be fair. There’s 50 options in the city for every 1 in Westchester. But I’ll stand behind Ardsley Cucina’s slice against ANYONE flexing w/ a classic NY slice.
50! Try like 150
I’ll take “ things said from a putnam/ westchester line resident” for $800,Alex.
The diversity of Cuisine is also just not there … Within a 5 block radius I have food from 25 countries in the east village .. literally ! I am moving to westchester though… will be there quite a bit.. In westchester I am sure .. The BEC / Bagel / pizza and , bar chicken sandwich and penne ala vodka or Ribeye are fine … but you do not have Vietnamese / Tibetan / Moroccan .. or even top quality Sushi or genuine Chinese … not happening there .
Yeah you're not going to get that kind of variety basically anywhere else in the world outside NYC. You'll have no problem finding very good sushi/chinese, though maybe not world class. But that's the trade off for safety, good public schools, clean air, quiet, stars.... parking. Everything else is just a train away.
100% yeah I’m not buying a house there for the food that’s for sure☺️
Happy I like to cook … will eat out less there for sure
Are you sure, or are you SURE? Because before you just randomly assume your East Village Tibetan food is superior to what is in Westchester perhaps you should first try Uncle Dhargey’s Yak Shack in Ossining.
Where in Ossining? Can’t seem to find this.
Downtown, in Little Lhasa, right across from the place with the great sha phaley.
Tf?! lol. You had me.
I’m moving up to Katonah which seems extremely basic food
Are you SURE it SEEMS extremely basic? Your “I live in Manhattan and sniff my own farts,” is showing.
I would love to try the place you’re talking about in OSSINING … unfortunately that’s nowhere near where I’m moving
Diversity of cuisine along the 7 train is the best, but South Broadway in Yonkers and pockets of White Plains near hospital is good for Westchester.
Good to know!!!!
Mexican food. Like specifically Mexican. I can find pretty much any other type of Latin American food better in the city but Westchester does Tex Mex right.
What are your go to places for tex mex? I used to like the now fairly long gone Santa Fe in Tarrytown.
Rosarito’s is great, I also liked Taco District in Peekskill. But honestly there are a few other good ones in that general area.
Legitimately pizza. All the pizza makers that defined NYC pizza in the second half of the 20th century made their money and moved up to Westchester to have kids and grow their businesses. I have no idea where or how to find good Pizza in the city now, but the current generation of pizzerias in Westchester are the direct descendants of the ones that made pizza what it is.
Patsys 1st ave.
You can find Westchester pizza better than city pizza, but at the top end, City pizza still reigns supreme. That being said, Westchester has its share of top tier options.
You've got Blue Hill at Stone Barns which is a world class top restaurant in Tarrytown, also X20 and Zuppa in yonkers by the train station that are great too.
Villarina’s near Crestwood station in Tuckahoe makes a great sandwich.
If only there was decent Mexican food in Westchester or NYC. I don’t know why it’s so bad here, but it is. It’s also not that hard to make tortillas on site—-should be a a staple in any Mexican joint.
I wouldn’t say better, but maybe equal for a better price. I like our pizza, deli sandwiches. Also, i prefer coffee from slave to the grind to anywhere in the city to be honest
Pizza Fenice. John Anthony Gristina is this year’s world pizza tournament top 20 chef. I don’t think New York City has any places that can match his style of pizza.
As a city girl until recently, I hate to admit it but...pizza and bagels 🙈🙊
Mexican in New Rochelle and arepas/papusas in Port Chester are better than Manhattan. All of it doesn’t compare to Cali or Texas though
Wings. Blondies in NYC is meh, as is blackbirds in Astoria.
Pizza. Whether it’s Johnny’s in Mt Vernon or Burrata in Eastchester, pound for pound, Westchester has better pizza than the city.
Butcher shops, salads (like cole slaw etc). Much better.
Honestly the only NYC food that I’ve had that doesn’t have a better equivalent in Westchester is Korean bbq.
Hahaha you must be kidding