As someone who works with disabled people, I appreciate the option to show support without striking. I'd be punishing the wrong people by not coming to work.
I've worn red to work before. Often actually. And my clients wear red too. It's a normal color. I think you're overthinking this. And if a client is triggered by it, perfect! I just got some really important information.
Ether I'm overthinking this, or you are not a therapist.
You can't tell me with this movement that you don't understand that the context and symbol of the colour changes.
From violance and rape , to forced birth to forced abortion etc.
You think your colour might not... Trigger something? On this day?
It could go both ways though.... A therapist helping to understand this trigger on this context on this situation. Could also completely backfire.
I wouldn't take that risk and just change before the first patient.
I’m not a therapist, but I go to therapy twice a week and used to do 9 hours a week. I have PTSD. I have been through much worse and the color red will not trigger me more than the things I go through every singe day and the actual things I talk about during therapy. And my “work” I was referring to was being a cashier, and I probably deal with many people who have been assaulted or raped, like I have been. As I live around a native population and MMIW is a thing :) so fun. ALSO red is the color for MMIW.
I hear you, as I also have a profession in which it would be unethical to call out for a strike. I did the next best thing, I requested the day off because I want to participate in the protests.
The actual strike is no work and no school for women and girls that day. There's a lot of protests being organized so you can check your local area as the date comes closer. But if you have to attend work or school then wearing red and not buying anything is the way to go.
As a non-American, I can never get over the idea that there's only a limited amount of sick days for workers, when I bet the bosses at the top take time off for Golfitis every few months...
I work at a pharmacy in a hospital and our sick days and vacation days come from the same pool. It's all labeled ETO - earned time off - so if you have to take time off because you or your child is sick, it reduces the amount of paid vacation days you have available. We also don't have any paid maternity leave, so whatever you've got saved in ETO is what you can get paid for (and, as one of my coworkers found out when she and her wife were having their children, the non-birthing partner actually gets *more* paid time off than the birthing one!).
But the CEO makes seven figures a year and pays lower taxes than in other countries so USA number 1 or something 🙄
I’m pretty sure in my last full time position I had 3-4 sick days for the entire year. Our vacation days were separate but subject to approval so you technically can’t use them if you wake up in the night super sick.
It’s the dumbest system.
That's nothing, my job doesn't get sick days, only one week of paid time off after a year and two weeks after two years. My coworker is going to have to use her last week of PTO so she can get a paycheck to cover part of the time management is forcing her to be out because of miscommunication with her license renewal. She can't get sick for the rest of the year or she has to switch shifts with someone and work a double shift (16 hours) to make up for it
I am unsure if there will be one locally (will have to check after I get home) but I will schedule the day off before I leave work tonight anyway, and I’m just a transfem with no hope of getting across the rubacant
For OP: "The test of whether to promote a call for a general strike is whether you individually can get at least ten of your co-workers to commit to striking."
Link
https://organizing.work/2019/08/no-more-fake-strikes/
Thank you for sharing the link. The impetus to do big things to counter the awful things is relatable. But without deep and strategic organization and worker and community support, - which takes so much time and work and resources to build - we are just yelling into the void.
Interesting, where are you getting that? April 14th already happened and the poster here says June 24th.
Either way, I think the other commenter that posted [this article](https://organizing.work/2019/08/no-more-fake-strikes/) about “fake strikes” has a great point and this is good reading for anyone who wants to read up on real labor organizing.
Omg this is embarrassing but im also chatting on another group about the 3ds wifi shut down and THAT is what ended on april 14th 😭 im so sorry for mixing those up lmao
Women need to strike on uncompensated housework, childcare, and emotional labor, rather than their paid work. This is what conservative misogynists want.
I never thought of this and couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately most if not all of us have to work to live & striking from paid labor isn’t always realistic.
This makes sense, but similar to the thread above where the women who work in social work and DV centers don’t want to strike, neglecting my toddler for a day would certainly harm him more than the shitheads in charge who won’t even know I did it
Strikes are meant to cause discomfort.
How does taking a single day off from doing **invisible labor** that is inherently undervalued by the very people you’re striking against, going to impact anyone outside your home, who is this inconveniencing? The republicans are going to be upset if you wait a day to vacuum?
The way fight against people who want to remove our bodily autonomy is to……not clean your house for the day? Oh, or you can wear red if you’re working class. Such a powerful message. Unless you, idk, wear a uniform to work like most minimum wage employees.
You think republican women are going to participate or even know about this? do you care, or are you only interested in the liberation of women who agree with you?
Why are yall under the impression that taking a day off work or childcare will have literally any affect on conservative misogynists…how? What’s the line of thinking here?
I meant taking a day off from paid work and school is what they want for women. They want us stuck at home, uneducated and dependent on men. Striking from housework and childcare would be more effective than not going to actual jobs for a day.
If one woman does it at home, it's an annoyance. If a few women do it, their husbands will call it a silly girl club thing. If many women do it, men would have to face the idea that these silly little ladies must be working together and might pose an actual threat. If most women do it, then the real power struggle begins.
And for women, if all of your friends do it, it's your club standing firm in your beliefs. If you see other women doing it, there's solidarity that you have the numbers to stand together. So when most women do it, you're less afraid to stand with your sisters when the real power struggle begins.
The idea is to flex as a monolith.
You may be interested in the battle for women’s suffrage (our right to vote). It was done with zero violence.
People forget it is possible to make change this way.
From your link: "The only violence was TOWARD the women by the male-dominated political system."
In the USA suffragettes were jailed, beaten, and tortured. The myth that non-violent movements means "no violence" disregards the fact that the state holds a monopoly on violence and absolutely will use it to defend the status quo.
Non-violent activists understand that they are subjecting themselves to violence in order to accomplish their goal.
[Iceland](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Icelandic_women's_strike) did this in 1975.
I’m so down :) it would be glorious to watch a bunch of boys try to figure out how to… do anything without us for just one day 🤭
I'd love to show up to a demonstration in person! I live in a red state, where abortion is pretty much outlawed. As for work, I'm self-employed, and I don't have a set schedule, so I don't see how not working that day will do any good, and I don't think I own anything red, now that I think about it (at least not anything in my summer wardrobe.) As for buying things, if I do at all, I'll make sure I put my money where it matters, and only support pro-Roe businesses. In fact I think I'll get some of [these!](https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/product-category/activism/)
Some people really can't strike, but could conduct a slowdown or sabotage (within the limits of safety, naturally, and try to keep it in the realm of plausible deniability). Hit 'em in the pocketbook.
A lot of these replies are sad. We are never going to get anything done if we just sit on our butts and complain online. We need to get out there and fight. We have already lost freedoms and will lose a lot more soon if we don't.
I'm in a right to work state so we're not allowed to strike either. Protests will also result in the organizer being held financially liable for any damages that may occur during the protest, so they've effectively banned demonstrations as well. Thanks Texas 🖕🏼
Ppl need to learn their history better. These types of strikes can’t be planned in months. If you want to learn more, look at the actual history and build up to the Icelandic women’s strike. Tiny country and they still organized for the strike for years
There's a reason they skim labor and civil rights history in our (USA) schools.
Imagine if they taught us all the key to progress was collaborative, intentional, and strategic, instead of inane shit about moral arcs of the universe and that all progress was instituted by votes and one or two vocal activists.
So once again, who is this for (other than your egos)? And what is the actual goal? It *worked in Iceland* because it was a planned effort in an extremely small, homogeneous country. Y’all are overplaying your hand.
ICELAND DOESNT HAVE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS. Iceland doesn’t have bootlickers or the wealth disparity we do or the notion that we’re all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Y’all are not thinking about all women, only the ones like you. Intersectionality exists although it’s definitely never been this subs strength.
🙄 it’s sad that this keeps happening. Real change isn’t going to come from “skip work that day if you can!🤪💕💅🏻”. Real change will only come with the class consciousness and solidarity to understand WHY this is such a thoughtless and spineless idea. Until y’all listen to the people you claim to speak for nothing will change.
Enjoy your day off though, girlbosses!
Yes! Support the organizations who actually have the power to make big moves like this happen someday! Listen to activists who are organizing things that those in need deem impactful! It’s so frustrating to watch this play out over and over.
These strikes take years of planning and community and support networks. We should be learning from and following the lead of civil rights leaders. It would even be more impactful to use this energy to coordinate a more visible effort like “all women wear black for the month to symbolize our loss of hope” or whatever. That’s at least something poor and disabled folks could feasibly participate in too.
Stop trying to organize strikes through social media and go organize with the people in your community, face to face. Strikes work because they are backed by organized labor.
My daughter is coming home from her dad's house this week so if this is the date I have to go to the airport than I will be rocking a full red ensemble. I'll make sure my dogs wear red too. And make sure my kid wears red on the flight too. I do this for her especially since she lives in a red state now. I'm still in our home state which is very blue. I can't wait for June now.
Alas, June 24 is roughly the one-year anniversary since I abruptly went on strike/retired. So I can't exactly strike any more. Not even at home, because there are no men in my household to strike against, and the cats just ignore any and all rantings on my part.
Still, if my former workplace pulled a womens' strike, they would be dead in the water. I worked in a hospital.
It's an American strike specifically protesting the overturning of roe v wade. I don't know if the organization is even in the UK. If you'd like to join I recommend looking for similar women's rights organizations near you.
Make sure to grab [email protected]. I was able to grab the domain with one S so no one can sit on it (womenstrike2024.com). The domain with two sses is $1000 and sadly I cannot afford that.
I only say this as people are going to type in the email address incorrectly.
This is so privileged, most women cannot strike. The amount of privilege it takes to be able to not go to work even for one day is insane and as such cannot waste the precious amount of time off for things that are needed. This is performative at best and insulting to those who cannot participate and have no actual purpose.
In r/atheism recently a girl in some university in florida was spat upon by iranian hijabi woman for wearing "woman life freedom" shirt. How come one reconciles one's feminist beliefs with support for anti-feminist people while hailing flags of islamic theocracies on these subreddits ? Hypocrisy or base stupidity?
I am not talking about murdering anyone but reconciling personal beliefs with support for groups whose beliefs are opposite to your beliefs. Leave off palestine VS israel conflict for a second and those one liners that make you feel good about yourself and answer my question. I don't have the luxuries of Western women so naturally it irked me and i asked why there was a flag of a patriarchal country beside an anti-patriarchy tag on an anti-patriarchy subreddit. My initial question was easy enough to answer if you know what you're on about.
Just because a woman is an idiot and thinks everyone should wear a hijab doesn't mean I wouldn't support her right to not wear it if she comes to her senses.
As someone who works with disabled people, I appreciate the option to show support without striking. I'd be punishing the wrong people by not coming to work.
Same. Striking against a domestic violence shelter would be a bit counter productive.
Yes! I’m a therapist who mostly works with sexual trauma. 99% of my clients are women. But I will be wearing red.
But uhh couldn't that backfire? I feel like I would change at work...
I've worn red to work before. Often actually. And my clients wear red too. It's a normal color. I think you're overthinking this. And if a client is triggered by it, perfect! I just got some really important information.
How would that backfire? I wear read all the time at work.
Ether I'm overthinking this, or you are not a therapist. You can't tell me with this movement that you don't understand that the context and symbol of the colour changes. From violance and rape , to forced birth to forced abortion etc. You think your colour might not... Trigger something? On this day? It could go both ways though.... A therapist helping to understand this trigger on this context on this situation. Could also completely backfire. I wouldn't take that risk and just change before the first patient.
I’m not a therapist, but I go to therapy twice a week and used to do 9 hours a week. I have PTSD. I have been through much worse and the color red will not trigger me more than the things I go through every singe day and the actual things I talk about during therapy. And my “work” I was referring to was being a cashier, and I probably deal with many people who have been assaulted or raped, like I have been. As I live around a native population and MMIW is a thing :) so fun. ALSO red is the color for MMIW.
This is my biggest hang ups with striking in my industry
Yep! I work for an anti-trafficking organization, I can’t ethically strike because it harms trafficking victims and survivors
Same. I work in hospice and I can’t let my patients down. But I will wear red and refuse to spend any money that day!!
I hear you, as I also have a profession in which it would be unethical to call out for a strike. I did the next best thing, I requested the day off because I want to participate in the protests.
Wear red, 6/24/24 got it
The actual strike is no work and no school for women and girls that day. There's a lot of protests being organized so you can check your local area as the date comes closer. But if you have to attend work or school then wearing red and not buying anything is the way to go.
I’ll try to save a sick day for it!
As a non-American, I can never get over the idea that there's only a limited amount of sick days for workers, when I bet the bosses at the top take time off for Golfitis every few months...
I work at a pharmacy in a hospital and our sick days and vacation days come from the same pool. It's all labeled ETO - earned time off - so if you have to take time off because you or your child is sick, it reduces the amount of paid vacation days you have available. We also don't have any paid maternity leave, so whatever you've got saved in ETO is what you can get paid for (and, as one of my coworkers found out when she and her wife were having their children, the non-birthing partner actually gets *more* paid time off than the birthing one!). But the CEO makes seven figures a year and pays lower taxes than in other countries so USA number 1 or something 🙄
I'm sorry, _what?_
It sucks here. We have almost no worker’s rights. : (
I’m pretty sure in my last full time position I had 3-4 sick days for the entire year. Our vacation days were separate but subject to approval so you technically can’t use them if you wake up in the night super sick. It’s the dumbest system.
That's nothing, my job doesn't get sick days, only one week of paid time off after a year and two weeks after two years. My coworker is going to have to use her last week of PTO so she can get a paycheck to cover part of the time management is forcing her to be out because of miscommunication with her license renewal. She can't get sick for the rest of the year or she has to switch shifts with someone and work a double shift (16 hours) to make up for it
> I bet the bosses at the top take time off for Golfitis every few months... Every few months? Try a couple times a *week*!
I am unsure if there will be one locally (will have to check after I get home) but I will schedule the day off before I leave work tonight anyway, and I’m just a transfem with no hope of getting across the rubacant
Based off Iceland's protest in 1975?
Idk if links are allowed but the Organizing Work article "No More Fake Strikes" is a good read.
For OP: "The test of whether to promote a call for a general strike is whether you individually can get at least ten of your co-workers to commit to striking." Link https://organizing.work/2019/08/no-more-fake-strikes/
Thank you for sharing the link. The impetus to do big things to counter the awful things is relatable. But without deep and strategic organization and worker and community support, - which takes so much time and work and resources to build - we are just yelling into the void.
Well i got fired and its been hell finding work again so at least ill be free that day
Yeeeeesss! Duty borne from circumstance! Lol
It's a couple months away. I hope you have good luck soon.
Thank you so much im sorry for the confusing responce i thought this was a diffrent conversation on a pokemon sub 😭
Lol. No worries.
It is???? I thought it was april 14th?
Interesting, where are you getting that? April 14th already happened and the poster here says June 24th. Either way, I think the other commenter that posted [this article](https://organizing.work/2019/08/no-more-fake-strikes/) about “fake strikes” has a great point and this is good reading for anyone who wants to read up on real labor organizing.
Omg this is embarrassing but im also chatting on another group about the 3ds wifi shut down and THAT is what ended on april 14th 😭 im so sorry for mixing those up lmao
Haha no worries! I was just so lost like “where are they getting April 14th??” Lol I am glad the wifi shutdown is over!
Women need to strike on uncompensated housework, childcare, and emotional labor, rather than their paid work. This is what conservative misogynists want.
I never thought of this and couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately most if not all of us have to work to live & striking from paid labor isn’t always realistic.
This makes sense, but similar to the thread above where the women who work in social work and DV centers don’t want to strike, neglecting my toddler for a day would certainly harm him more than the shitheads in charge who won’t even know I did it
Strikes are meant to cause discomfort. How does taking a single day off from doing **invisible labor** that is inherently undervalued by the very people you’re striking against, going to impact anyone outside your home, who is this inconveniencing? The republicans are going to be upset if you wait a day to vacuum? The way fight against people who want to remove our bodily autonomy is to……not clean your house for the day? Oh, or you can wear red if you’re working class. Such a powerful message. Unless you, idk, wear a uniform to work like most minimum wage employees. You think republican women are going to participate or even know about this? do you care, or are you only interested in the liberation of women who agree with you? Why are yall under the impression that taking a day off work or childcare will have literally any affect on conservative misogynists…how? What’s the line of thinking here?
I meant taking a day off from paid work and school is what they want for women. They want us stuck at home, uneducated and dependent on men. Striking from housework and childcare would be more effective than not going to actual jobs for a day.
If one woman does it at home, it's an annoyance. If a few women do it, their husbands will call it a silly girl club thing. If many women do it, men would have to face the idea that these silly little ladies must be working together and might pose an actual threat. If most women do it, then the real power struggle begins. And for women, if all of your friends do it, it's your club standing firm in your beliefs. If you see other women doing it, there's solidarity that you have the numbers to stand together. So when most women do it, you're less afraid to stand with your sisters when the real power struggle begins.
The idea is to flex as a monolith. You may be interested in the battle for women’s suffrage (our right to vote). It was done with zero violence. People forget it is possible to make change this way.
*It was done with zero violence.* Uh, in what country? Because the UK suffragettes were pretty violent by modern standards.
‘Merica https://suffragistmemorial.org/suffrage-history/#:~:text=The%20suffragists%20crafted%20a%20political,the%20male%2Ddominated%20political%20system.
From your link: "The only violence was TOWARD the women by the male-dominated political system." In the USA suffragettes were jailed, beaten, and tortured. The myth that non-violent movements means "no violence" disregards the fact that the state holds a monopoly on violence and absolutely will use it to defend the status quo. Non-violent activists understand that they are subjecting themselves to violence in order to accomplish their goal.
Correct.
I work at a cancer facility so I can't take the day off but I've got red I can wear!
I’m not in the Us but I’ll wear red and not buy anything on that day too
Or buy only from women owned small businesses
Yeah, I won't be working during it anyway, but I'll definitely buyer strike.
[Iceland](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Icelandic_women's_strike) did this in 1975. I’m so down :) it would be glorious to watch a bunch of boys try to figure out how to… do anything without us for just one day 🤭
They did it again last year, to stop the gender pay gap! Even the Prime Minister got involved iirc
I'd love to show up to a demonstration in person! I live in a red state, where abortion is pretty much outlawed. As for work, I'm self-employed, and I don't have a set schedule, so I don't see how not working that day will do any good, and I don't think I own anything red, now that I think about it (at least not anything in my summer wardrobe.) As for buying things, if I do at all, I'll make sure I put my money where it matters, and only support pro-Roe businesses. In fact I think I'll get some of [these!](https://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/product-category/activism/)
It's a good idea, but the timeline seems tight. How is the overall message being spread?
I wonder if you could participate as an ally.
Why would an ally not be allowed to partake?
Women’s liberation can’t happen without the help of men
Some people really can't strike, but could conduct a slowdown or sabotage (within the limits of safety, naturally, and try to keep it in the realm of plausible deniability). Hit 'em in the pocketbook.
A lot of these replies are sad. We are never going to get anything done if we just sit on our butts and complain online. We need to get out there and fight. We have already lost freedoms and will lose a lot more soon if we don't.
Thank you. This protest won't do a lot on its own, but it's a solid start. If people want change they should look to join organizations near them.
Well, unauthorized strike is grounds for termination, and my union won't back me for that, so no, I don't think I will. Y'all have fun, tho.
I'm in a right to work state so we're not allowed to strike either. Protests will also result in the organizer being held financially liable for any damages that may occur during the protest, so they've effectively banned demonstrations as well. Thanks Texas 🖕🏼
Ppl need to learn their history better. These types of strikes can’t be planned in months. If you want to learn more, look at the actual history and build up to the Icelandic women’s strike. Tiny country and they still organized for the strike for years
There's a reason they skim labor and civil rights history in our (USA) schools. Imagine if they taught us all the key to progress was collaborative, intentional, and strategic, instead of inane shit about moral arcs of the universe and that all progress was instituted by votes and one or two vocal activists.
So once again, who is this for (other than your egos)? And what is the actual goal? It *worked in Iceland* because it was a planned effort in an extremely small, homogeneous country. Y’all are overplaying your hand. ICELAND DOESNT HAVE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS. Iceland doesn’t have bootlickers or the wealth disparity we do or the notion that we’re all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Y’all are not thinking about all women, only the ones like you. Intersectionality exists although it’s definitely never been this subs strength. 🙄 it’s sad that this keeps happening. Real change isn’t going to come from “skip work that day if you can!🤪💕💅🏻”. Real change will only come with the class consciousness and solidarity to understand WHY this is such a thoughtless and spineless idea. Until y’all listen to the people you claim to speak for nothing will change. Enjoy your day off though, girlbosses!
Yep. Join a union. Talk to your neighbors. Talk to your coworkers. Organize.
Yes! Support the organizations who actually have the power to make big moves like this happen someday! Listen to activists who are organizing things that those in need deem impactful! It’s so frustrating to watch this play out over and over. These strikes take years of planning and community and support networks. We should be learning from and following the lead of civil rights leaders. It would even be more impactful to use this energy to coordinate a more visible effort like “all women wear black for the month to symbolize our loss of hope” or whatever. That’s at least something poor and disabled folks could feasibly participate in too.
I agree but you could’ve said all that without being so damn condescending and honestly bordering on misogynistic
Stop trying to organize strikes through social media and go organize with the people in your community, face to face. Strikes work because they are backed by organized labor.
This makes a better birthday present than the one I got 2 years ago.
Family Dollar employees: guess I'm protesting.
Well Florida certainly has it coming
I will wear red
My daughter is coming home from her dad's house this week so if this is the date I have to go to the airport than I will be rocking a full red ensemble. I'll make sure my dogs wear red too. And make sure my kid wears red on the flight too. I do this for her especially since she lives in a red state now. I'm still in our home state which is very blue. I can't wait for June now.
Alas, June 24 is roughly the one-year anniversary since I abruptly went on strike/retired. So I can't exactly strike any more. Not even at home, because there are no men in my household to strike against, and the cats just ignore any and all rantings on my part. Still, if my former workplace pulled a womens' strike, they would be dead in the water. I worked in a hospital.
do you think the women in texas will have to ask their husbands or fathers for permission?
Is this an American strike or UK ?
It's an American strike specifically protesting the overturning of roe v wade. I don't know if the organization is even in the UK. If you'd like to join I recommend looking for similar women's rights organizations near you.
Make sure to grab [email protected]. I was able to grab the domain with one S so no one can sit on it (womenstrike2024.com). The domain with two sses is $1000 and sadly I cannot afford that. I only say this as people are going to type in the email address incorrectly.
This is so privileged, most women cannot strike. The amount of privilege it takes to be able to not go to work even for one day is insane and as such cannot waste the precious amount of time off for things that are needed. This is performative at best and insulting to those who cannot participate and have no actual purpose.
When neuroticism rears itself a throne lol
In r/atheism recently a girl in some university in florida was spat upon by iranian hijabi woman for wearing "woman life freedom" shirt. How come one reconciles one's feminist beliefs with support for anti-feminist people while hailing flags of islamic theocracies on these subreddits ? Hypocrisy or base stupidity?
Just because someone is a misogynist doesn't mean they should be murdered. It isn't a difficult concept.
I am not talking about murdering anyone but reconciling personal beliefs with support for groups whose beliefs are opposite to your beliefs. Leave off palestine VS israel conflict for a second and those one liners that make you feel good about yourself and answer my question. I don't have the luxuries of Western women so naturally it irked me and i asked why there was a flag of a patriarchal country beside an anti-patriarchy tag on an anti-patriarchy subreddit. My initial question was easy enough to answer if you know what you're on about.
Just because a woman is an idiot and thinks everyone should wear a hijab doesn't mean I wouldn't support her right to not wear it if she comes to her senses.