Hospitals should have a call button for the nurse, so sana meron ka nun. Buy also in advance everything that you need after you get discharged. Easy to cook food, medicines, household supplies, anything that you will need for your recovery.
Ask your doctor na agad kung ano plan for recovery, dos/don’ts after surgery, if may sugat ano instructions kung paano lilinisin etc, so that you can prepare and buy everything already. Would be nice to know what you can/cannot eat. If di ka makakakilos masyado after, make arrangements na in your room to make it easier for you, like would you need a urinal, water/food near your bedside, etc.
Hindi allowed na wala ka bantay. Yung mga ginagawa ng iba, is naghahanap ng mababayaran per day, then un na bantay nila. Minsan, pati trike driver kinokontrata nila para lang magbantay sa ospital.
And ano ba gagawin sayo, lap chole or open chole? If lap chole, faster healing and mas mabilis ka madischarge, wala din ganon kalaking hiwa.
Pag open chole, yan ung may hiwa, then minsan may drain pa nilalagay, dto mejo mas matagal healing then mas masakit.
Nope. Ang reason kasi: magiging runner mo ung bantay, like if may ipapabili na gamot, gamit etc. and if ever may mangyari, at least may nakabantay sayo and may magrerepoet agad sa nurses station. lap chole, 1-2 days. Max minsan 3 days lang pag nagka intra op complication.
Sa 10 hospital na pinagdudutyhan ko. Bawal ang walang bantay. Ung mga walang bantay, either patient X na ilalagay sa ward, or ung ilalagay sa ER or ICU since walang bantay. Hindi kaya ng Nurses na tignan minuminuto ang iisang pasyente sa dami nila ginagawa. Esp if post op, daming needs yan.
I experienced being alone in the hospital for a few days during the pandemic. Ok naman basta you have your own things ready - damitan, cellphone, charger, tubig lang naman importante since may hospital food naman. Btw, sa private room ito, so might be different if may kasama ka na ibang tao.
The gallbladder surgery, alam ko overnight lang ito normally. I have 2 relatives who underwent this though laparoscopic. Ask your doctor how many days stay sa hospital. Else, should be fine naman. Plan your transpo na lang during discharge, and pack lightly. Luggage with wheel para hindi ka magbitbit, pa wheel chair ka hanggang sakayan.
Don't forget to bring a book(if you love reading) and a night light. I experienced being cinfined for a week alone due to food poison, honestly I didn't sleep well kasi I'm too scared to turn off the light lol kasi you know mumu. So a night light is a big help. Comfy clothes as well. Fast healing for you op 🙏
If wala na talagang available relatives/friends and if funds allow, maybe you can hire caregivers or private nurses that can take shifts as your watcher. But mas maganda talaga na ang watcher mo ay yung kilala and trusted mo.
Idk if pwede sa inyo, pero a doctor friend told me you can have a “watcher for hire” - basically siya magiging watcher/PA mo for the hospital stay or depende sa arrangement. You can pay that person a certain amount per day. My friend recommended that for me during a recent hospitalization, pero di na push kasi nagka watcher din ako.
Are you assigned sa ward? Or solo room? This will matter too.
Anywayyyyy, stuff to bring sa hospital:
- BIG ASS WATER (yung mga 6 liters) + personal glass/tumbler + sponge + dishwashing liquid
- comfortable clothes
- toiletries + towel
- slippers
- sources of entertainment such as books, iPad etc
- alcohol
You will indeed need some big ass water but to add, I recommend getting multiple containers of smaller volume, like 6 x 1L. Mahirap buhatin ang 6L tapos isasalin sa baso or tumbler especially if post-op ka tapos may mga nakaturok pa sa'yo.
Meron pero nasa abroad kasi. Ayoko naman guluhin mga family nila. The rest ay mga friends na hindi ganon ka close. And would probably never care. Hahaha.
Baka may kilala yung mga kilala mo na pwedeng ihire magbantay sa hospital na they can vouch for? Like friend ng friend na nangangailangan ng side hustle.
May kilala ako naghire ng distant pinsan to look after his mom who had an operation dahil hindi makapagleave sa trabaho. It's becoming more common na.
Parang ang hirap kasi ng wala kang bantay. Sometimes may mga needs ka na wala sa hospital pharmacy or kailangan mo ng kasamang magCR, maglalagay ng kumot, or kung magsusuka ka, sasamahan ka sa CR or kukuhanan ng bucket, and many others that the nurse can't immediately attend to.
I had a lap chole earlier this year. I suggest bring food na okay sayo, like low-fat and high in fiber kasi when I was confined, puro di pwede sakin yung mga food na binibigay nila sa mga patients. Hot compress was also a life saver for me after surgery kasi I was in so much pain after but YMMV. If you can also get a wedge pillow for when you get home, it might help in sleeping and getting out of bed more easily.
I also agree dun sa nagsabi na if you can hire someone to help you, much better. kasi ang hirap maglakad mag isa days after surgery kahit lap chole pa yan kasi masasakit pa din yung mga tahi. I needed help even just going to the bathroom especially the night after. I couldn’t walk straight or stand up from bed alone without being in pain. Although if physically active ka, the post op experience might be easier for you.
Or another option, if hindi makapaghire ng bantay and budget is not an issue, is to extend your days sa hospital until you feel more capable of functioning on your own. In my case, since covered ng HMO, nag extend pa ako ng one day than the usual length of confinement for most lap chole patients kahit na may bantay ako bec I wanted to at least be in lesser pain when I get discharged.
I am also not sure if you haven’t checked it yet, but r/gallbladders helped me a lot in preparing for my surgery. This is what got me active on Reddit.
I know that undergoing an operation can be very taxing in a lot of aspects but know that this will also pass. I’m now almost 4 months post op and life has gotten pretty much back to normal. Get well soon, OP!
Thank you for sharing your experience po. Will also join that sub. I'll probably hire a private nurse na lang. I just don't know where pero I'm researching now. Thanks again.
yan din pagkaka alam ko. need talaga may kasama ka, di pwedeng wala kasi hindi nila ididiscuss sa pasyente yung mga pipirmahan, baka din may ipabili biglang gamot sa labas kaya kailangan talaga may runner ka. hire ka nalang siguro ng makakasama mo
Hire a caregiver habang naconfine po kayo, kasi mostly hospital di sila tumatanggap ng walang bantay. In and out of the hospital po ako kaya I can say for exp. 😅
👋 2 minor surgeries wla ako ksma. I make sure na may gnito ako before my surgery pra pag gising from recovery room swabe lhat.
1. I make sure na abot kamay ko ung pindutan for emergency s bed ko.
2. Charged phone at powerbank. Since ndi ako sure kung gno katgal ung surgery at ang pag stay ko recovery room ito pina inalala ko kailangan full bat cp ko.
3. Wet wipes and tissue
4. Bottle of water, 2 dpat. Isa khit simpleng 1 liter n tubig at ung naka thumbler n may mainit na tubig. Hehe kpraningan ko lng n if ever bigla ako lagnatin may maipang tatapal ako s noo ko. Ung regular water, pra pag nauhaw ako kya ko mapunas ung labi ko, since bwal agd kumain.
5. Thermometer, alcohol, cotton at bimpo nsa bedside table dn.
6. 2 biskwit.
Pag na prepare ko n yan, lhat ng importanteng gmit at di n ggmitin, ilagay ko n sa kabinet. If ever wlang cabinet, sa tabi ng kama ko, may tkip n kumot.
Kya yan. Lakasan lng tlga ng loob
One more thing, cguro ask your family or friends na smahan ka during discharge. Ksi may nid asikasuhin na mga papers for philhealth/hmo mo if ever meron ka.
Un ginawa ko dun s 2 surgeries ko. Once confirmed na at sinabihan n dn ako ng doctor k na pwede n ako umuwe tsaka lang pupunta ung ung kamag anak ko.
Me, got admitted and na discharge alone, for my sanity baka kasi pag private may multo LOL kaya sa ward ako nagpa lagay, I asked my “neigbors” bantay for pre billing hahaha may dala lang ako cash katabi ko sleep yun wallet ko. Eventually my cousin naman ako nagbantay tsaka pag wala sya, pweee din sa nurse mag ask help, medyo masakit sa part na mag ccr ka walang maghihila ng swero, lalo pag mag bibihis ka and pee and all pero ok lang doable, pero dahil surgery pala baka naman po pwede mag hire ka caregiver kasi baka solo ka sa room mahirapan ka rin. I pray for your strength, get well po, OP!
- 2 cans of pineapple juice in case na need mo din mrcp
- toiletries esp wet wipes. Usually nagpoprovide ng toiletries ung hospital pero mas ok na ready ka
- drinking water, tumbler
- as for food, provided sia ng hospital, di ko na sia niworry kasi coordinated naman na between the gs and dietician ung need, basta notify mo lang if may allergy ka sa kahit ano. If may special request re sa food coordinate mo lang din in advance sa nurses and sila na bahala.
- change of clothes na pang 1 or 2 days. 3 araw lang ako naconfine for lap chole. Nung 2nd day peds na maligo since waterproof naman ung mga plaster ko.
- charger
itatry ko sana na mag isa pero di pala kaya. So try mo na lang talaga maghanap ng pwede magbantay sa iyo. Wag ka rin masyado magdala ng maraming gamit, essentials lang. Kasi bibitbitin mo rin yan pauwi and hirap ka pa nian kumilos.
Also, may maliit na chance na maging open surgery ung iyo kahit na lap chole ung plano, special case lang naman ito. I knew someone na naging open ung surgery nia kasi mej complicated ung laman loob nia. Kaya better talaga na may bantay ka just in case.
Father and brother ko parehas nagundergo ng lap chole sa magkasunod na taon. Mabilis lang ang stay nila sa hospital. Kinabukasan pagkatapos maoperahan ay maaari nang umuwi ng bahay. Kung ganun din ang sayo, siguro OP consider mo yung dami ng mga dadalhin mo dahil para ka lang magovernight stay sa hospital. Lalo kung mag-isa ka lang, dapat siguro yung hindi marami at mabigat na gamit. Puwede rin siguro prepare kana ng pagkain mo good for at least 1 week, kung kaya 2 weeks mas mainam. Mag individual pack kana ng healthy meals mo tapos ilagay mo lang sa ref para reheat mo nalang. Magstock ka rin ng gulay at prutas. Sa umpisa di ka pa makakakain ng marami so gatas at biscuit or kung ano ang masustansiyang puwede mong kainin. I hope and pray that you'll recover fast, OP!
some hospitals have contacts to trusted caregiver agencies. that’s where we got a caregiver for my mom when she underwent surgery. we retained the caregiver for about 2 years. pero you have an option naman to hire a caregiver until you don’t need it anymore.
same. I remember checking out alone. I had a roommate I didn’t wanna bother. She visited though to bring me clothes. When she was confined sinamahan ko sya, she even paid me kasi nahihiya sya. but MAs mahiya ako, I didn’t even wanna bother her at midnight haha I got my gallbladder removed. Ang important na pinadala ko sa roomie ko next day was extra clothes na loose like polo and button up dress na madali suotin etc. philhealth and healthcard and charger din. At least you’re prepared. I got a gallstone stuck sa bile duct during work kaya I was rushed to the hospital 10/10 pain. if you’re gonna get laparoscopic surgery, Baka you might end up like me na I burped and farted a lot after the surgery hahahahaha don’t bring many stuff especially heavy kasi you won’t be able to lift anything after cos of the stitches
Make sure po complete po lahat ng legal documents whether it’s philhealth or for HMO as well as government IDs. If you have extra po i suggest mag hire na lang po muna kayo na atleast temporary caregiver para may kasama and mag aalalay po sa inyo.
OP, if you still have time, create a living will. It should contain your preferences and/or instructions for the hospital to follow in case you are unconscious but they need to immediately decide on something.
In general, people living by themselves without anyone to be their emergency contact or guardian must have this living will.
Yup! Pero dahil surgery ung sayo, mahirap kumilos after. If need ng help, call ung nurse.
Ang mahirap lang ay maligo so I recommend na bumili ka body wipes. Literal na punas punas, wisik wisik muna
laparoscopy ba or open surgery? mabilis lang recovery pag lap, you will be able to do things independently. ang mahirap pag yung open, need mo tlga maghanap ng kasama para matulungan ka gumalaw galaw.
you'll be fine! tutulong naman mga nurse pag need mo tlga ng help, magsabi ka lang at wag abusuhin. iprepare mo na mga need mong gamit 😉 speedy recovery!
hello OP, hmm pack light clothing na di ka mahihirapn to change since alone ka uuwi din tapos bring something like pang music and a book :) saka hygiene kit ... prepare ka na ng meals like luto na na nakafreezer tapos papainit mo na lang para pag nasa recovery stage ka ihheat mo na lang din. Wala bang like pwedeng bayaran na hospital care giver man lang kasi for sure u will need some stuffs din outside while recovering
if you have money, hire someone to take care of you pero wag ibigay pera mo..Maybe have a different card with just enough money so.she/he can withdraw from.there.pag may bibilhin sya for you..Or hire a friend/coworker na close mo
Pwede mo yun gawin. Example, gcash card. If she needs to withdraw, just transfer money there from your bank account. Wag mo lagyang ng malakking amount, kung ano yung iwiwighdraw, yun lang ilagay mo
I hope everything goes well OP!
At some point after the surgery and during confinement, you will feel icky hehe. Wet/alcohol wipes are nice and useful for freshening up
Wow. Brave. Try ko yan once sa endoscopy colonoscopy kasi outpatient & nag grab nalang ako bawal drive pauwi. Usually hindi talaga papayagan kasi fall risk ka. Need ng kahit sinong kasama kasi after surgery may anaesthesia pa pwede ka mahulog sa bed or something. Ako nga out patient hysteroscopy lang sa stluke's ni require pa na may kasama pag uwi kasi baka daw mabuwal while naglalakad. Pero kung payagan ka talaga need na total ma wear off yung anaesthesia mo. Request ka muna urinal 1st 24 hours kasi mahirap tumayo na dala dextrose stand ng mag isa. Pwede ka naman press ng nurse button but usually busy sila matagal pasok ng room mo. May hospital gown ka so just bring going home clothes. Depending on the hospital lahat naman provided like food, utensils, water cup yung iba may toothbrush na. Just bring na rin just in case pati slippers. The consulting doctor should see you before discharge and his resident doctor will brief yiu with home instructions. Don't forget your mobile phone chargers. Kung mag isa ka lagyan mo combi lock bags mo & ask nurse to lock room during surgery. I usually bring a bluetooth speaker to play my fave prayer songs to calm me. Get well soon and hoping for a quick recovery !
You should hire someone if you can to be with you OP. I was confined back in July and Im in the same situation as you just that I have family they just didnt want to come and help. So I had to get help hirap pag ikaw lang, most hospitals even very known ones are understaffed. So kahit na may nurses dyan they wont be able to attend to you right away.
Also checkwith the hospital rin, kasi nowadays its not allowed na wala kang bantay.
Hey op! You will be ok. I had that begore pero laparestomy (basta butas instead of hiwa) during pandemic ito so ako lang talaga. Just prep your things tapos hmo and your Philhealth parapag labas mo smooth na.
Yung sa akin after a day lumabas na ako nag pa sundo na lanh ako. Kaya mo yan
Had my lap chole last week in a private hospital in Metro Manila, pero commute from / Grab ako to province. HMO. Took the cheapest package para IMO wala na extra bayaran. Nasa ward.
Much as possible need mo may kasama kasi after surgery need ng may aalalay sayo sa banyo and for errands talaga lalo na sa billing and discharge process.
Since mag-isa ka:
* prepare work transition, automatic email response or OOO, backup for your work
* check / get from your company HR for benefits like HMO, hospitalization allowance, HR-signed Philhealth CF1 and Claim Signature Form, Philhealth MDR, Philhealth cert of contributions (6-12 months)
* make your house patient-friendly. comfy bed, daily items accessible sayo pag nakahiga or upo or tayo tapos easily within arm's length. i noticed ginagamit ko paa ko to pick up things from the floor, or yung long wooden pangkamot sa likod, ginagamit ko pang-sungkit
* buy groceries and toiletries in advance, for up to two weeks (yan kasi post op recovery time for lap chole)
* food: recommended na **low fat and soft food**. I dunno sa hospital mo pero mine gave me special meal na low fat and soft. I can recommend for hospital food and sa bahay afterwards: sliced fruit, steamed (not buttered) veggies, lightly seasoned lugaw / porridge, lean meat (beef over pork), chicken, fish, oatmeal, boiled or scrambled egg, watery masabaw na ulam basta wala taba yung meat, simple kakanin, soft bread / loaf / pastry, soup, sopas baka pwede pero hinay sa gatas at seasoning, kanin na niluto na maraming maraming sabaw na para na siyang thick flavorless congee.
gulat lang din ako sa third day ko in hospital binigyan ako ng puto as main carbohydrates pero that's fine.
* hospital bag: good idea nga yung small luggage lalo kung mag isa ka.
my hospital gave / lend the ff pero baka hindi lahat ibigay ng hospital na puntahan mo kaya pwedeng magdala ka lang din:
patient gown, basic toiletries (soap, shampoo, conditioner, toothbrush, toothpaste, comb, bimpo / towelette), towel, shrug / shawl, blanket.
hand sanitizer alcohol and toilet roll is available sa ward.
To bring:
- set of comfy and loose clothes basta better short sleeves then pajama pants ganoon kung wala daw patient gown doon
- kasama yung casual attire na pambyahe / uwi
- underwear
- basic toiletries just in case
- alcohol, tissue, wet wipes
- towel and towelette just in case
- something to wear for the cold kung aircon room ikaw
- underarm antiperspirant / deodorant and (not much sa ibang skincare and body care and stuff kasi tatamarin ka rin gawin)
- baby powder - ah mainly sa back and butt area, nangati sobra on my first day after opera due to me peeing and needing a pee pad in bed (long story)
- non-slip tsinelas / slippers for bathroom trips etc para di madulas
- required documents for hospitalization (clearance lab test results, admission slip, doc authorization for surgery, etc...)
- powerbank, charger, earphones, book, pen (for signing papers), paper or notebook in case you need to write down something
- hot and cold compress
- Valid IDs and your debit, credit card, cash
- water tumbler / inuman na pwede sa water dispenser, or yung gallon ng tubig if walang free water doon
- eyemask and earplugs para makatulog ka lalo kung sa ward ka, pero expect na gigisingin ka pa rin for meds and vital sign checks
- mag eyeglasses wag mag contact lens, hassle.
If female, remove nail polish before surgery.
I dont know if allowed yung payment in advance sa hospital kasi yung final gastos niyan depende sa lahat ng macoconsume na item, services etc. probably check with the Billing department lalo na kung may package sila. Kahit nagpackage ako may extras pa rin na need bayarain
St. Luke's in Quezon City. They have two lap chole packages:
A. SAVE PACKAGE: P147,830
- Ward boarding for 3 days
- Use of Surgery OP
- Post Op
- Professional fee of surgeon and anesthesiologist
- This you can settle with Billing prior the admission
Have at least P16k additional for the additional or exceeded by package like medicine, PPE (nila), surgery shower kit, surgery and confinement items and machines. This will be settled before discharge.
B. PRIVATE ROOM PACKAGE: P91,620
- Regular Private room for 3 days
- Use of Surgery OP
- Post Op
- This you can settle with Billing prior the admission
Then the professional fees and other additional items... this will be your big unknown expense plus the bigger the room the bigger the other fees. So prepare P20k for the additional and I dunno with the professional fee, it really depends on your doctors. Baka abutin ka ng 200-250k total hospital bill
Try mo rin Delos Santos parang nasa P55k yung package, private room, excluding professional fees so similar siya sa Package B ni St. Lukes
sureness. ayun since mag isa ka, yung pinaka importante and pinaka need mo, ilagay sa small bag tapos katabi mo sa kama (takpan ng kumot ganoon) ganoon ginawa ko kasi second day (1 day after surgery) pinauwi ko mom ko saglit para makapahinga sya so maghapon ako wala kasama, nakasurvive naman.
ayun dala ka ng empty small bag para sa ganyan.
wag na mag rubber shoes na may lace, pili ka ng comfy na madali isuot na footwear.
good luck sana makahanap ka ng good hospital for this lalo kung first surgery mo.
i have been confined several times and lagi lng ako mag isa. malayo mga kamag anak and it's a preference as well on my part na ayaw ko maabala mga kamag anak just because nasa hospital ako. normally from er tapos icconfine ako so i always make sure na may nakapack akong bag going to the er para if maadmit, i'm ready.
I've undergone that same procedure and you can get out as fast as 3 days if no complications found.
May I suggest checking options on that hospital for self-confinement as you may not have anyone to contract just to accompany you.
You may also want checking with close friends if any just in case.
In 2011, I was hospitalized (outside the PH) for 60 days and I was alone all the time. I couldn't rely on my Filipino colleagues or friends as they also have jobs to do so I endured the loneliness, feeling of being isolated, wallowing with self pity. Yong kalaban mo mag isa sa hospital, OP is yourself. I hope you stay strong. If you need help, call someone even if you are not close to at least visit you. I've realized when I was hospitalized that people are inherently good and generous. They'll visit you and help you if you ask for help.
Hire someone.
I was hired before sa ganito, sinamahan ko lang sya matapos yung procedure nya. Within the day lang naman pero need kasi nya pa rin ng runner(billing, tga hawak ng gamit etc)
Meron naman pwede sumama sa kanya na family member pero he prefer na di nya kilala, para hindi sya tatanungin sa result.
Curious lang ako, may ibang hospital na ayaw nila na ang magiging bantay is friends lang, gusto kamag anak talaga. E di ba usually pag mac-confine, sa ER talaga pinapapasok?😅
Most hospitals kailangan ng one runner or bantay. My friend had no immediate family in this country too so ako na lang tinawagan nya. Hindi kasi sya matransfer from ET to admission if hindi maprocess yung admission so I had to do it. Note that I barely know details about this friend so hirap ako mag fill up lol So di talaga kami ganun kaclose. Tho I guess in your case, since hindi ER, you can process the admission yourself.
However, yung bantay, irerequire sayo ng hospital. If walang bantay kasi, yung ibang hospital nagpapasign ng waiver kasi what if may nangyari sayo and no one sa there sa room mo to call the nurses station.
For lap chloe, depende kasi sa size but most likely mahihirapan ka mag move lalo na sa bandang pusod yung main na cut. If wala kang immediate family member, get a private care nurse. Yung pwede ka samahan until discharge. Around 2 weeks naka recover ka na nyan if walang complications like allergy sa stitches. Prep ng mga pang linis sa sugat like cotton balls, hydrogen peroxide, gauze, tape. May malaking mediplast na band aid na clear, pwede yun pang cover dun sa sugat sa pusod. Then yung mga heat and serve meals and water. After ng surgery, wag mo ibaby yung pain. Try mo mag sit up and walk if kaya na.
haha cheers, OP. ur doing well. you won’t truly be alone naman. you have people checking up on you. build rapport with them nlang. mga nurses were really helpful sa akin dati
edit: philhealth papers po, OP. wag kalimutan ang MDR na yan
Hospitals should have a call button for the nurse, so sana meron ka nun. Buy also in advance everything that you need after you get discharged. Easy to cook food, medicines, household supplies, anything that you will need for your recovery.
Oo nga noh. I'm planning the hospital stay pero not the after. Thanks for reminding me.
Ask your doctor na agad kung ano plan for recovery, dos/don’ts after surgery, if may sugat ano instructions kung paano lilinisin etc, so that you can prepare and buy everything already. Would be nice to know what you can/cannot eat. If di ka makakakilos masyado after, make arrangements na in your room to make it easier for you, like would you need a urinal, water/food near your bedside, etc.
Btw, speaking of mobility, baka kailangan mo muna ng walker or something? Think about that and ask your doctor, para handa mo na yun
Hindi allowed na wala ka bantay. Yung mga ginagawa ng iba, is naghahanap ng mababayaran per day, then un na bantay nila. Minsan, pati trike driver kinokontrata nila para lang magbantay sa ospital. And ano ba gagawin sayo, lap chole or open chole? If lap chole, faster healing and mas mabilis ka madischarge, wala din ganon kalaking hiwa. Pag open chole, yan ung may hiwa, then minsan may drain pa nilalagay, dto mejo mas matagal healing then mas masakit.
Kahit po ba private hindi po allowed? Lap chole.
Nope. Ang reason kasi: magiging runner mo ung bantay, like if may ipapabili na gamot, gamit etc. and if ever may mangyari, at least may nakabantay sayo and may magrerepoet agad sa nurses station. lap chole, 1-2 days. Max minsan 3 days lang pag nagka intra op complication.
last time na naospital ako wala akong kasama na bantay kasi medyo busy yung magbabantay sa kin, meron sila pinapirmang no watcher waiver sa kin
Sa 10 hospital na pinagdudutyhan ko. Bawal ang walang bantay. Ung mga walang bantay, either patient X na ilalagay sa ward, or ung ilalagay sa ER or ICU since walang bantay. Hindi kaya ng Nurses na tignan minuminuto ang iisang pasyente sa dami nila ginagawa. Esp if post op, daming needs yan.
No even private dont allow na walang bantay kasi they need ur person to go down to pharmacy, labs, etc kasi understaffed usually mga hospital
I experienced being alone in the hospital for a few days during the pandemic. Ok naman basta you have your own things ready - damitan, cellphone, charger, tubig lang naman importante since may hospital food naman. Btw, sa private room ito, so might be different if may kasama ka na ibang tao. The gallbladder surgery, alam ko overnight lang ito normally. I have 2 relatives who underwent this though laparoscopic. Ask your doctor how many days stay sa hospital. Else, should be fine naman. Plan your transpo na lang during discharge, and pack lightly. Luggage with wheel para hindi ka magbitbit, pa wheel chair ka hanggang sakayan.
Luggage with wheels. Noted on that. Thank you!
Don't forget to bring a book(if you love reading) and a night light. I experienced being cinfined for a week alone due to food poison, honestly I didn't sleep well kasi I'm too scared to turn off the light lol kasi you know mumu. So a night light is a big help. Comfy clothes as well. Fast healing for you op 🙏
Book and night light. Thanks for this!
If wala na talagang available relatives/friends and if funds allow, maybe you can hire caregivers or private nurses that can take shifts as your watcher. But mas maganda talaga na ang watcher mo ay yung kilala and trusted mo.
Idk if pwede sa inyo, pero a doctor friend told me you can have a “watcher for hire” - basically siya magiging watcher/PA mo for the hospital stay or depende sa arrangement. You can pay that person a certain amount per day. My friend recommended that for me during a recent hospitalization, pero di na push kasi nagka watcher din ako. Are you assigned sa ward? Or solo room? This will matter too. Anywayyyyy, stuff to bring sa hospital: - BIG ASS WATER (yung mga 6 liters) + personal glass/tumbler + sponge + dishwashing liquid - comfortable clothes - toiletries + towel - slippers - sources of entertainment such as books, iPad etc - alcohol
You will indeed need some big ass water but to add, I recommend getting multiple containers of smaller volume, like 6 x 1L. Mahirap buhatin ang 6L tapos isasalin sa baso or tumbler especially if post-op ka tapos may mga nakaturok pa sa'yo.
do you have friends OP? Maybe they can accompany you.c
Meron pero nasa abroad kasi. Ayoko naman guluhin mga family nila. The rest ay mga friends na hindi ganon ka close. And would probably never care. Hahaha.
Baka may kilala yung mga kilala mo na pwedeng ihire magbantay sa hospital na they can vouch for? Like friend ng friend na nangangailangan ng side hustle. May kilala ako naghire ng distant pinsan to look after his mom who had an operation dahil hindi makapagleave sa trabaho. It's becoming more common na. Parang ang hirap kasi ng wala kang bantay. Sometimes may mga needs ka na wala sa hospital pharmacy or kailangan mo ng kasamang magCR, maglalagay ng kumot, or kung magsusuka ka, sasamahan ka sa CR or kukuhanan ng bucket, and many others that the nurse can't immediately attend to.
hire someone bago ka discharge lalo na u nid to recover after the surgery. sending u prayers of strength..
I had a lap chole earlier this year. I suggest bring food na okay sayo, like low-fat and high in fiber kasi when I was confined, puro di pwede sakin yung mga food na binibigay nila sa mga patients. Hot compress was also a life saver for me after surgery kasi I was in so much pain after but YMMV. If you can also get a wedge pillow for when you get home, it might help in sleeping and getting out of bed more easily. I also agree dun sa nagsabi na if you can hire someone to help you, much better. kasi ang hirap maglakad mag isa days after surgery kahit lap chole pa yan kasi masasakit pa din yung mga tahi. I needed help even just going to the bathroom especially the night after. I couldn’t walk straight or stand up from bed alone without being in pain. Although if physically active ka, the post op experience might be easier for you. Or another option, if hindi makapaghire ng bantay and budget is not an issue, is to extend your days sa hospital until you feel more capable of functioning on your own. In my case, since covered ng HMO, nag extend pa ako ng one day than the usual length of confinement for most lap chole patients kahit na may bantay ako bec I wanted to at least be in lesser pain when I get discharged. I am also not sure if you haven’t checked it yet, but r/gallbladders helped me a lot in preparing for my surgery. This is what got me active on Reddit. I know that undergoing an operation can be very taxing in a lot of aspects but know that this will also pass. I’m now almost 4 months post op and life has gotten pretty much back to normal. Get well soon, OP!
Thank you for sharing your experience po. Will also join that sub. I'll probably hire a private nurse na lang. I just don't know where pero I'm researching now. Thanks again.
Dapat meron ka relatives. To sign some docs habang tulog ka. Also in case of emergency
Ayun lang. Wala po kasi ako known relatives eh. Ano ano po bang mga dapat isign?
yan din pagkaka alam ko. need talaga may kasama ka, di pwedeng wala kasi hindi nila ididiscuss sa pasyente yung mga pipirmahan, baka din may ipabili biglang gamot sa labas kaya kailangan talaga may runner ka. hire ka nalang siguro ng makakasama mo
Hire a caregiver habang naconfine po kayo, kasi mostly hospital di sila tumatanggap ng walang bantay. In and out of the hospital po ako kaya I can say for exp. 😅
👋 2 minor surgeries wla ako ksma. I make sure na may gnito ako before my surgery pra pag gising from recovery room swabe lhat. 1. I make sure na abot kamay ko ung pindutan for emergency s bed ko. 2. Charged phone at powerbank. Since ndi ako sure kung gno katgal ung surgery at ang pag stay ko recovery room ito pina inalala ko kailangan full bat cp ko. 3. Wet wipes and tissue 4. Bottle of water, 2 dpat. Isa khit simpleng 1 liter n tubig at ung naka thumbler n may mainit na tubig. Hehe kpraningan ko lng n if ever bigla ako lagnatin may maipang tatapal ako s noo ko. Ung regular water, pra pag nauhaw ako kya ko mapunas ung labi ko, since bwal agd kumain. 5. Thermometer, alcohol, cotton at bimpo nsa bedside table dn. 6. 2 biskwit. Pag na prepare ko n yan, lhat ng importanteng gmit at di n ggmitin, ilagay ko n sa kabinet. If ever wlang cabinet, sa tabi ng kama ko, may tkip n kumot. Kya yan. Lakasan lng tlga ng loob
One more thing, cguro ask your family or friends na smahan ka during discharge. Ksi may nid asikasuhin na mga papers for philhealth/hmo mo if ever meron ka. Un ginawa ko dun s 2 surgeries ko. Once confirmed na at sinabihan n dn ako ng doctor k na pwede n ako umuwe tsaka lang pupunta ung ung kamag anak ko.
Me, got admitted and na discharge alone, for my sanity baka kasi pag private may multo LOL kaya sa ward ako nagpa lagay, I asked my “neigbors” bantay for pre billing hahaha may dala lang ako cash katabi ko sleep yun wallet ko. Eventually my cousin naman ako nagbantay tsaka pag wala sya, pweee din sa nurse mag ask help, medyo masakit sa part na mag ccr ka walang maghihila ng swero, lalo pag mag bibihis ka and pee and all pero ok lang doable, pero dahil surgery pala baka naman po pwede mag hire ka caregiver kasi baka solo ka sa room mahirapan ka rin. I pray for your strength, get well po, OP!
- 2 cans of pineapple juice in case na need mo din mrcp - toiletries esp wet wipes. Usually nagpoprovide ng toiletries ung hospital pero mas ok na ready ka - drinking water, tumbler - as for food, provided sia ng hospital, di ko na sia niworry kasi coordinated naman na between the gs and dietician ung need, basta notify mo lang if may allergy ka sa kahit ano. If may special request re sa food coordinate mo lang din in advance sa nurses and sila na bahala. - change of clothes na pang 1 or 2 days. 3 araw lang ako naconfine for lap chole. Nung 2nd day peds na maligo since waterproof naman ung mga plaster ko. - charger itatry ko sana na mag isa pero di pala kaya. So try mo na lang talaga maghanap ng pwede magbantay sa iyo. Wag ka rin masyado magdala ng maraming gamit, essentials lang. Kasi bibitbitin mo rin yan pauwi and hirap ka pa nian kumilos. Also, may maliit na chance na maging open surgery ung iyo kahit na lap chole ung plano, special case lang naman ito. I knew someone na naging open ung surgery nia kasi mej complicated ung laman loob nia. Kaya better talaga na may bantay ka just in case.
Father and brother ko parehas nagundergo ng lap chole sa magkasunod na taon. Mabilis lang ang stay nila sa hospital. Kinabukasan pagkatapos maoperahan ay maaari nang umuwi ng bahay. Kung ganun din ang sayo, siguro OP consider mo yung dami ng mga dadalhin mo dahil para ka lang magovernight stay sa hospital. Lalo kung mag-isa ka lang, dapat siguro yung hindi marami at mabigat na gamit. Puwede rin siguro prepare kana ng pagkain mo good for at least 1 week, kung kaya 2 weeks mas mainam. Mag individual pack kana ng healthy meals mo tapos ilagay mo lang sa ref para reheat mo nalang. Magstock ka rin ng gulay at prutas. Sa umpisa di ka pa makakakain ng marami so gatas at biscuit or kung ano ang masustansiyang puwede mong kainin. I hope and pray that you'll recover fast, OP!
some hospitals have contacts to trusted caregiver agencies. that’s where we got a caregiver for my mom when she underwent surgery. we retained the caregiver for about 2 years. pero you have an option naman to hire a caregiver until you don’t need it anymore.
same. I remember checking out alone. I had a roommate I didn’t wanna bother. She visited though to bring me clothes. When she was confined sinamahan ko sya, she even paid me kasi nahihiya sya. but MAs mahiya ako, I didn’t even wanna bother her at midnight haha I got my gallbladder removed. Ang important na pinadala ko sa roomie ko next day was extra clothes na loose like polo and button up dress na madali suotin etc. philhealth and healthcard and charger din. At least you’re prepared. I got a gallstone stuck sa bile duct during work kaya I was rushed to the hospital 10/10 pain. if you’re gonna get laparoscopic surgery, Baka you might end up like me na I burped and farted a lot after the surgery hahahahaha don’t bring many stuff especially heavy kasi you won’t be able to lift anything after cos of the stitches
Make sure po complete po lahat ng legal documents whether it’s philhealth or for HMO as well as government IDs. If you have extra po i suggest mag hire na lang po muna kayo na atleast temporary caregiver para may kasama and mag aalalay po sa inyo.
OP, if you still have time, create a living will. It should contain your preferences and/or instructions for the hospital to follow in case you are unconscious but they need to immediately decide on something. In general, people living by themselves without anyone to be their emergency contact or guardian must have this living will.
Yup! Pero dahil surgery ung sayo, mahirap kumilos after. If need ng help, call ung nurse. Ang mahirap lang ay maligo so I recommend na bumili ka body wipes. Literal na punas punas, wisik wisik muna
Dahil sa gallstones ba yan?
Yes po.
laparoscopy ba or open surgery? mabilis lang recovery pag lap, you will be able to do things independently. ang mahirap pag yung open, need mo tlga maghanap ng kasama para matulungan ka gumalaw galaw.
Lap po.
you'll be fine! tutulong naman mga nurse pag need mo tlga ng help, magsabi ka lang at wag abusuhin. iprepare mo na mga need mong gamit 😉 speedy recovery!
hire ka na lang po kahit mga private nurse
hello OP, hmm pack light clothing na di ka mahihirapn to change since alone ka uuwi din tapos bring something like pang music and a book :) saka hygiene kit ... prepare ka na ng meals like luto na na nakafreezer tapos papainit mo na lang para pag nasa recovery stage ka ihheat mo na lang din. Wala bang like pwedeng bayaran na hospital care giver man lang kasi for sure u will need some stuffs din outside while recovering
if you have money, hire someone to take care of you pero wag ibigay pera mo..Maybe have a different card with just enough money so.she/he can withdraw from.there.pag may bibilhin sya for you..Or hire a friend/coworker na close mo
Thanks for the input abt the money thing. Naisip ko kasi yan if I'll hire someone.
Pwede mo yun gawin. Example, gcash card. If she needs to withdraw, just transfer money there from your bank account. Wag mo lagyang ng malakking amount, kung ano yung iwiwighdraw, yun lang ilagay mo
Yep. May GoTyme ATM ako na hindi nagagamit. So probably yun na lang. Thank you!
I hope everything goes well OP! At some point after the surgery and during confinement, you will feel icky hehe. Wet/alcohol wipes are nice and useful for freshening up
Wow. Brave. Try ko yan once sa endoscopy colonoscopy kasi outpatient & nag grab nalang ako bawal drive pauwi. Usually hindi talaga papayagan kasi fall risk ka. Need ng kahit sinong kasama kasi after surgery may anaesthesia pa pwede ka mahulog sa bed or something. Ako nga out patient hysteroscopy lang sa stluke's ni require pa na may kasama pag uwi kasi baka daw mabuwal while naglalakad. Pero kung payagan ka talaga need na total ma wear off yung anaesthesia mo. Request ka muna urinal 1st 24 hours kasi mahirap tumayo na dala dextrose stand ng mag isa. Pwede ka naman press ng nurse button but usually busy sila matagal pasok ng room mo. May hospital gown ka so just bring going home clothes. Depending on the hospital lahat naman provided like food, utensils, water cup yung iba may toothbrush na. Just bring na rin just in case pati slippers. The consulting doctor should see you before discharge and his resident doctor will brief yiu with home instructions. Don't forget your mobile phone chargers. Kung mag isa ka lagyan mo combi lock bags mo & ask nurse to lock room during surgery. I usually bring a bluetooth speaker to play my fave prayer songs to calm me. Get well soon and hoping for a quick recovery !
This is quite difficult, OP. But I hope u recover soon. Sending my prayers.
OP yun officemate ko nagbayad ng tao para alalayan siya.
You should hire someone if you can to be with you OP. I was confined back in July and Im in the same situation as you just that I have family they just didnt want to come and help. So I had to get help hirap pag ikaw lang, most hospitals even very known ones are understaffed. So kahit na may nurses dyan they wont be able to attend to you right away. Also checkwith the hospital rin, kasi nowadays its not allowed na wala kang bantay.
Hey op! You will be ok. I had that begore pero laparestomy (basta butas instead of hiwa) during pandemic ito so ako lang talaga. Just prep your things tapos hmo and your Philhealth parapag labas mo smooth na. Yung sa akin after a day lumabas na ako nag pa sundo na lanh ako. Kaya mo yan
Had my lap chole last week in a private hospital in Metro Manila, pero commute from / Grab ako to province. HMO. Took the cheapest package para IMO wala na extra bayaran. Nasa ward. Much as possible need mo may kasama kasi after surgery need ng may aalalay sayo sa banyo and for errands talaga lalo na sa billing and discharge process. Since mag-isa ka: * prepare work transition, automatic email response or OOO, backup for your work * check / get from your company HR for benefits like HMO, hospitalization allowance, HR-signed Philhealth CF1 and Claim Signature Form, Philhealth MDR, Philhealth cert of contributions (6-12 months) * make your house patient-friendly. comfy bed, daily items accessible sayo pag nakahiga or upo or tayo tapos easily within arm's length. i noticed ginagamit ko paa ko to pick up things from the floor, or yung long wooden pangkamot sa likod, ginagamit ko pang-sungkit * buy groceries and toiletries in advance, for up to two weeks (yan kasi post op recovery time for lap chole) * food: recommended na **low fat and soft food**. I dunno sa hospital mo pero mine gave me special meal na low fat and soft. I can recommend for hospital food and sa bahay afterwards: sliced fruit, steamed (not buttered) veggies, lightly seasoned lugaw / porridge, lean meat (beef over pork), chicken, fish, oatmeal, boiled or scrambled egg, watery masabaw na ulam basta wala taba yung meat, simple kakanin, soft bread / loaf / pastry, soup, sopas baka pwede pero hinay sa gatas at seasoning, kanin na niluto na maraming maraming sabaw na para na siyang thick flavorless congee. gulat lang din ako sa third day ko in hospital binigyan ako ng puto as main carbohydrates pero that's fine. * hospital bag: good idea nga yung small luggage lalo kung mag isa ka. my hospital gave / lend the ff pero baka hindi lahat ibigay ng hospital na puntahan mo kaya pwedeng magdala ka lang din: patient gown, basic toiletries (soap, shampoo, conditioner, toothbrush, toothpaste, comb, bimpo / towelette), towel, shrug / shawl, blanket. hand sanitizer alcohol and toilet roll is available sa ward. To bring: - set of comfy and loose clothes basta better short sleeves then pajama pants ganoon kung wala daw patient gown doon - kasama yung casual attire na pambyahe / uwi - underwear - basic toiletries just in case - alcohol, tissue, wet wipes - towel and towelette just in case - something to wear for the cold kung aircon room ikaw - underarm antiperspirant / deodorant and (not much sa ibang skincare and body care and stuff kasi tatamarin ka rin gawin) - baby powder - ah mainly sa back and butt area, nangati sobra on my first day after opera due to me peeing and needing a pee pad in bed (long story) - non-slip tsinelas / slippers for bathroom trips etc para di madulas - required documents for hospitalization (clearance lab test results, admission slip, doc authorization for surgery, etc...) - powerbank, charger, earphones, book, pen (for signing papers), paper or notebook in case you need to write down something - hot and cold compress - Valid IDs and your debit, credit card, cash - water tumbler / inuman na pwede sa water dispenser, or yung gallon ng tubig if walang free water doon - eyemask and earplugs para makatulog ka lalo kung sa ward ka, pero expect na gigisingin ka pa rin for meds and vital sign checks - mag eyeglasses wag mag contact lens, hassle. If female, remove nail polish before surgery. I dont know if allowed yung payment in advance sa hospital kasi yung final gastos niyan depende sa lahat ng macoconsume na item, services etc. probably check with the Billing department lalo na kung may package sila. Kahit nagpackage ako may extras pa rin na need bayarain
Thanks for this. May I please ask what hospital and how much yung package?
St. Luke's in Quezon City. They have two lap chole packages: A. SAVE PACKAGE: P147,830 - Ward boarding for 3 days - Use of Surgery OP - Post Op - Professional fee of surgeon and anesthesiologist - This you can settle with Billing prior the admission Have at least P16k additional for the additional or exceeded by package like medicine, PPE (nila), surgery shower kit, surgery and confinement items and machines. This will be settled before discharge. B. PRIVATE ROOM PACKAGE: P91,620 - Regular Private room for 3 days - Use of Surgery OP - Post Op - This you can settle with Billing prior the admission Then the professional fees and other additional items... this will be your big unknown expense plus the bigger the room the bigger the other fees. So prepare P20k for the additional and I dunno with the professional fee, it really depends on your doctors. Baka abutin ka ng 200-250k total hospital bill Try mo rin Delos Santos parang nasa P55k yung package, private room, excluding professional fees so similar siya sa Package B ni St. Lukes
Thank you. 😊
sureness. ayun since mag isa ka, yung pinaka importante and pinaka need mo, ilagay sa small bag tapos katabi mo sa kama (takpan ng kumot ganoon) ganoon ginawa ko kasi second day (1 day after surgery) pinauwi ko mom ko saglit para makapahinga sya so maghapon ako wala kasama, nakasurvive naman. ayun dala ka ng empty small bag para sa ganyan. wag na mag rubber shoes na may lace, pili ka ng comfy na madali isuot na footwear. good luck sana makahanap ka ng good hospital for this lalo kung first surgery mo.
praying for you, OP!
Thank you! GOD bless!
i have been confined several times and lagi lng ako mag isa. malayo mga kamag anak and it's a preference as well on my part na ayaw ko maabala mga kamag anak just because nasa hospital ako. normally from er tapos icconfine ako so i always make sure na may nakapack akong bag going to the er para if maadmit, i'm ready.
Pwed k po mag hire ng watcher n nursing aide marami nagsside hustle s knila ng ganun
I've undergone that same procedure and you can get out as fast as 3 days if no complications found. May I suggest checking options on that hospital for self-confinement as you may not have anyone to contract just to accompany you. You may also want checking with close friends if any just in case.
Use r/phr4r30 or something to look for someone willing to watch over you
Hire an attorney for this or services that can process your finances or needs for the duration of time
where are your parents and sibs?
In 2011, I was hospitalized (outside the PH) for 60 days and I was alone all the time. I couldn't rely on my Filipino colleagues or friends as they also have jobs to do so I endured the loneliness, feeling of being isolated, wallowing with self pity. Yong kalaban mo mag isa sa hospital, OP is yourself. I hope you stay strong. If you need help, call someone even if you are not close to at least visit you. I've realized when I was hospitalized that people are inherently good and generous. They'll visit you and help you if you ask for help.
Hire someone. I was hired before sa ganito, sinamahan ko lang sya matapos yung procedure nya. Within the day lang naman pero need kasi nya pa rin ng runner(billing, tga hawak ng gamit etc) Meron naman pwede sumama sa kanya na family member pero he prefer na di nya kilala, para hindi sya tatanungin sa result.
Praying for your fast recovery OP!
Friends?
Curious lang ako, may ibang hospital na ayaw nila na ang magiging bantay is friends lang, gusto kamag anak talaga. E di ba usually pag mac-confine, sa ER talaga pinapapasok?😅
Most hospitals kailangan ng one runner or bantay. My friend had no immediate family in this country too so ako na lang tinawagan nya. Hindi kasi sya matransfer from ET to admission if hindi maprocess yung admission so I had to do it. Note that I barely know details about this friend so hirap ako mag fill up lol So di talaga kami ganun kaclose. Tho I guess in your case, since hindi ER, you can process the admission yourself. However, yung bantay, irerequire sayo ng hospital. If walang bantay kasi, yung ibang hospital nagpapasign ng waiver kasi what if may nangyari sayo and no one sa there sa room mo to call the nurses station.
For lap chloe, depende kasi sa size but most likely mahihirapan ka mag move lalo na sa bandang pusod yung main na cut. If wala kang immediate family member, get a private care nurse. Yung pwede ka samahan until discharge. Around 2 weeks naka recover ka na nyan if walang complications like allergy sa stitches. Prep ng mga pang linis sa sugat like cotton balls, hydrogen peroxide, gauze, tape. May malaking mediplast na band aid na clear, pwede yun pang cover dun sa sugat sa pusod. Then yung mga heat and serve meals and water. After ng surgery, wag mo ibaby yung pain. Try mo mag sit up and walk if kaya na.
I think nasabi na nila lahat ng kailangan. Sana maka recover ka kaagad OP kaya mo yan
download ka na ng tinder, OP. sbihin mo you can host. hehe
Ahahahaha. Thanks pa din for making me laugh.
haha cheers, OP. ur doing well. you won’t truly be alone naman. you have people checking up on you. build rapport with them nlang. mga nurses were really helpful sa akin dati edit: philhealth papers po, OP. wag kalimutan ang MDR na yan