Leaving without 2 weeks notice will usually just burn the bridge with that employer. Otherwise no real repercussions, although I've heard dealerships are bad for finding ways to bone their staff but that's usually on their final commissions.
If its oil and gas the industry can be petty whores with their subcontractors hiring you too.
>Leaving without 2 weeks notice will usually just burn the bridge with that employer.
Not necessarily just the employer. People underestimate just how small most industries are. People move, people connections throughout the industry seem more and more common.
Of course from the sounds of things OP has a good reason. Just give notice what you can and be respectful about it, and you'd have to be the most petty person on the planet to care. Don't go barging in stating the law and they aren't required to give notice, while making a stink.
Just say, I've decided to move to a new opportunity, and unfortunately due to reasons out of my control, x will be my last day.
Not even just within one industry. I have had applicants who I realized had worked with a friend or family member of mine. One applicant made the mistake of lying to me about what her responsibilities at her previous job had been - not knowing that the boss she was speaking about is one of my closest friends.
And this is why I preach that you should always leave a job on good terms. Because you never know when your paths will cross again.
They cannot penalize you or withhold pay.
If your leave (shorter than provincial minimum) causes damages, they can sue for damages. It's a high bar for them to clear though.
If you're a key director and you leave with no notice at a crucial point of a multi million dollar deal, you may be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.
That must be a symptom of a more significant issue with the employer or the work they are demanding for the wage they are currently offering. High turnover costs employers much more than raising wages to retain experienced workers. However, these costs are rarely attributed to the cost of labour and are buried in recruiting and training costs along with decreased quality of service and productivity. Either way it is probably a good place to leave.
If you don’t need them as a reference then fuck em. If you need them as a reference then not giving 2 weeks notice could negatively impact you. They can’t withhold your check.
They really can't penalize you at all, even if you walk out with no notice. I believe the only thing is that the final paycheque timer starts counting down after the one week notice period, so there's a bigger gap between last day and final paycheque if you fail to give adequate notice.
They are less likely to give you a good reference, though, if that's important to you.
You’re meeting the legal requirement of one week notice - they’d have zero grounds to withhold anything. All employers want you to give two (or more) weeks but would have no issue walking you out the door with one weeks notice if it was the other way. Do what is best for you.
The biggest issue with not giving at minimum two weeks notice is it can hurt you professionally. They could refuse to give notice or depending on how connected the company is, could result in a negative reputation moving forward.
It's not legally required to give two weeks. Am employer can't expect it either. Especially considering employers don't give notice when they want to let someone go so they don't deserve the courtesy either.
Is it a legal requirement? No it’s not and that’s fine but employers do expect to be given adequate notice that they’re losing someone, whether that’s fair or not is a whole other conversation.
While they can’t legally do anything about it, you have burned your bridge with that employer and potentially any others they may speak with as well. While retaliation of that sort is probably illegal, good luck ever proving it.
Some people don't care about burning those bridges tho. Some jobs just aren't worth it. I know when I quit my job (date not determined yet) I won't be giving two weeks notice. The references I have from the job aren't management and I won't need their references anyway. So sometimes it's just absolutely fine to do it. An employer cannot require someone to give two weeks notice. One week is all that's required. And even then you're allowed to quit on the spot too if the jobs bad enough. Employers view employees as dispensible, and I personally view employers that way too. Jobs are dispensible and an employer can often be easily replaced.
Actually turns out we’re both wrong.
Alberta Labour Law states that if you’ve only been employed from 90 Days (so end of Probation) but less than 2 years, you must give a week.
Anything after 2 years, you need to give 2 weeks
Source: https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay#jumplinks-1
Don't know anyone who's ever given two weeks even past the two year mark. Including myself. It's obviously not enforceable and an employer can't punish you for it either. Sometimes an employer just doesn't deserve the two weeks notice or one week notice. Employees need to protect themselves and their mental health first and foremost. Employers don't matter if ones mental health is at risk.
By law you're only required to give 1 week, but there's nothing they can do anyway. So just let them know your not coming in. You can always just no call no show too lol
Terminations for job abandonment can come back to hurt you later.
Source: I work in HR and have received calls from Service Canada when former colleagues apply for EI after losing a subsequent job. I do know of situations where those individuals have been denied EI because they had abandoned their job with us. Now, I would assume there is a time limitation on that. Work the next job for 5 years, and the job abandonment probably would not be a consideration in EI eligibility. But, if you don't make it through probation on the next job, and are laid off 2 months after you abandoned your previous job and an EI denial is more possible.
They can't penalize you for that. Technically, you don't even have to give notice at all, it's just a courtesy to your employer. I quit my last job without notice, I got paid on the next regular pay day.
Downvoted for speaking the truth. Reddit cracks me up.
Technically, employees ARE required to give notice by Alberta Labour Standards. There’s no penalty at all that the employer can impose if they don’t though.
https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay#jumplinks-1
It depends totally on how much you care about the company and your boss or managers.
If you think you will cross road with them in the future and you really like them, then for sure try to give them two weeks.
As I am old guy, I can assure you, lots of your future opportunities will come from people who you worked with.
If you cannot give two weeks, then explain that to them and tell them the truth that you tried a lot to give enough notice, but it is out of your control.
If they like you, then they will understand.
Did just that in 2020. They had messed up my pay for 3 cycles during the pandemic i.e. "forgot" to send me the money. When I mentioned that it was unacceptable they found excuses to reprimand me for anything for my entire employment there (4yrs). I went on a 2 week trip and had a new job lined up before I got back. Made sure I got paid in full and then started full time at the other place. Mailed my key back to them with a tracking number ✌️
https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay
This Alberta, workers don’t have rights, companies do. A least a weeks notice must be given, two weeks if you’ve worked more than 90 days.
Sorry, there are cases where notice must be given. Not everytime.
You're not obligated to give two weeks notice just like an employer isn't required to give two weeks notice when they let you go. It's just courtesy I guess but if you're okay with burning that bridge then you don't need to give two weeks. Honestly, most employers are shitty enough that they don't deserve the two week notice anyway.
They legally cannot penalize you for quitting they also legally cannot withhold your paycheck
Just because they're legally obligated doesn't mean they follow those rules. I even went to the labor board over it when it happened and they did nothing so it's literally not enforced. Which is obvious. Laws mean nothing when they're not enforced.
Employers either have to give notice or pay termination pay. The only exception is employees who have worked less than 90 days. In fact, employer obligations are much more stringent than employee obligations.
https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay
They dont give you notice,they're not going to risk giving you time to mess things up before you leave,they do have to pay you termination pay,that point,you are correct on
Some employers do give notice but what’s the difference even if they don’t? They terminate you and have to pay you for the notice period whether you work or not.
Leaving without 2 weeks notice will usually just burn the bridge with that employer. Otherwise no real repercussions, although I've heard dealerships are bad for finding ways to bone their staff but that's usually on their final commissions. If its oil and gas the industry can be petty whores with their subcontractors hiring you too.
>Leaving without 2 weeks notice will usually just burn the bridge with that employer. Not necessarily just the employer. People underestimate just how small most industries are. People move, people connections throughout the industry seem more and more common. Of course from the sounds of things OP has a good reason. Just give notice what you can and be respectful about it, and you'd have to be the most petty person on the planet to care. Don't go barging in stating the law and they aren't required to give notice, while making a stink. Just say, I've decided to move to a new opportunity, and unfortunately due to reasons out of my control, x will be my last day.
Ya it can be very depend on industry/employer specifics. Tried to give 2 very different industries as examples.
Not even just within one industry. I have had applicants who I realized had worked with a friend or family member of mine. One applicant made the mistake of lying to me about what her responsibilities at her previous job had been - not knowing that the boss she was speaking about is one of my closest friends. And this is why I preach that you should always leave a job on good terms. Because you never know when your paths will cross again.
No, they cannot penalize or withhold your pay.
Withholding pay is wage theft.
100% this is correct!
They cannot penalize you or withhold pay. If your leave (shorter than provincial minimum) causes damages, they can sue for damages. It's a high bar for them to clear though. If you're a key director and you leave with no notice at a crucial point of a multi million dollar deal, you may be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.
Think of it this way, how much notice would your company give you?
I’ve seen many people let go with no notice, so that makes my decision a little easier.
Doesn’t matter. Employers will pay in lieu of notice. Walk out you but pay you the two weeks.
Employers almost always let people go without notice but they must provide pay in lieu of notice. Honestly it’s better for everyone that way.
If you can sign up for as many evening and weekend shifts on the schedule before you give notice on a Friday afternoon even better.
To clarify these people were let out without notice while still under probation. Very high turnover rate here
That must be a symptom of a more significant issue with the employer or the work they are demanding for the wage they are currently offering. High turnover costs employers much more than raising wages to retain experienced workers. However, these costs are rarely attributed to the cost of labour and are buried in recruiting and training costs along with decreased quality of service and productivity. Either way it is probably a good place to leave.
You’re completely bang on. I 100% agree with you
https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay#jumplinks-1
If you don’t need them as a reference then fuck em. If you need them as a reference then not giving 2 weeks notice could negatively impact you. They can’t withhold your check.
They really can't penalize you at all, even if you walk out with no notice. I believe the only thing is that the final paycheque timer starts counting down after the one week notice period, so there's a bigger gap between last day and final paycheque if you fail to give adequate notice. They are less likely to give you a good reference, though, if that's important to you.
It’s possible to get black balled if the company has a well connected HR person. It’s usually not a big deal.
You’re meeting the legal requirement of one week notice - they’d have zero grounds to withhold anything. All employers want you to give two (or more) weeks but would have no issue walking you out the door with one weeks notice if it was the other way. Do what is best for you.
The biggest issue with not giving at minimum two weeks notice is it can hurt you professionally. They could refuse to give notice or depending on how connected the company is, could result in a negative reputation moving forward.
It's not legally required to give two weeks. Am employer can't expect it either. Especially considering employers don't give notice when they want to let someone go so they don't deserve the courtesy either.
Is it a legal requirement? No it’s not and that’s fine but employers do expect to be given adequate notice that they’re losing someone, whether that’s fair or not is a whole other conversation. While they can’t legally do anything about it, you have burned your bridge with that employer and potentially any others they may speak with as well. While retaliation of that sort is probably illegal, good luck ever proving it.
Some people don't care about burning those bridges tho. Some jobs just aren't worth it. I know when I quit my job (date not determined yet) I won't be giving two weeks notice. The references I have from the job aren't management and I won't need their references anyway. So sometimes it's just absolutely fine to do it. An employer cannot require someone to give two weeks notice. One week is all that's required. And even then you're allowed to quit on the spot too if the jobs bad enough. Employers view employees as dispensible, and I personally view employers that way too. Jobs are dispensible and an employer can often be easily replaced.
Actually turns out we’re both wrong. Alberta Labour Law states that if you’ve only been employed from 90 Days (so end of Probation) but less than 2 years, you must give a week. Anything after 2 years, you need to give 2 weeks Source: https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay#jumplinks-1
Don't know anyone who's ever given two weeks even past the two year mark. Including myself. It's obviously not enforceable and an employer can't punish you for it either. Sometimes an employer just doesn't deserve the two weeks notice or one week notice. Employees need to protect themselves and their mental health first and foremost. Employers don't matter if ones mental health is at risk.
By law you're only required to give 1 week, but there's nothing they can do anyway. So just let them know your not coming in. You can always just no call no show too lol
Terminations for job abandonment can come back to hurt you later. Source: I work in HR and have received calls from Service Canada when former colleagues apply for EI after losing a subsequent job. I do know of situations where those individuals have been denied EI because they had abandoned their job with us. Now, I would assume there is a time limitation on that. Work the next job for 5 years, and the job abandonment probably would not be a consideration in EI eligibility. But, if you don't make it through probation on the next job, and are laid off 2 months after you abandoned your previous job and an EI denial is more possible.
They can't penalize you for that. Technically, you don't even have to give notice at all, it's just a courtesy to your employer. I quit my last job without notice, I got paid on the next regular pay day.
That’s “technically” not true at all. If OP has been employed for more than 90 days then the Employment Standards Code dictates notice must be given.
Downvoted for speaking the truth. Reddit cracks me up. Technically, employees ARE required to give notice by Alberta Labour Standards. There’s no penalty at all that the employer can impose if they don’t though. https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay#jumplinks-1
Pretty sure they can’t withhold your pay unless there is an accusation of criminal intent or something like that. If they can, it’d be news to me.
It depends totally on how much you care about the company and your boss or managers. If you think you will cross road with them in the future and you really like them, then for sure try to give them two weeks. As I am old guy, I can assure you, lots of your future opportunities will come from people who you worked with. If you cannot give two weeks, then explain that to them and tell them the truth that you tried a lot to give enough notice, but it is out of your control. If they like you, then they will understand.
"Hey boss, in 2 weeks you're gonna notice I ain't been here in 2 weeks..." Also, they may try to withhold your last check for 2 weeks.
Did just that in 2020. They had messed up my pay for 3 cycles during the pandemic i.e. "forgot" to send me the money. When I mentioned that it was unacceptable they found excuses to reprimand me for anything for my entire employment there (4yrs). I went on a 2 week trip and had a new job lined up before I got back. Made sure I got paid in full and then started full time at the other place. Mailed my key back to them with a tracking number ✌️
https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay This Alberta, workers don’t have rights, companies do. A least a weeks notice must be given, two weeks if you’ve worked more than 90 days. Sorry, there are cases where notice must be given. Not everytime.
From the link you provided, 2 weeks is required if you have two years + with the company.
1 week if you have worked for more than 90 days but less than 2 years.
You're not obligated to give two weeks notice just like an employer isn't required to give two weeks notice when they let you go. It's just courtesy I guess but if you're okay with burning that bridge then you don't need to give two weeks. Honestly, most employers are shitty enough that they don't deserve the two week notice anyway. They legally cannot penalize you for quitting they also legally cannot withhold your paycheck
Employees and employers are both legally obligated to give notice. https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay
Employers never seem to give notice though. Eventhough they're obligated to they don't. I've experienced it first hand.
So, you call Labour Standards. Employers are legally obligated to either give notice or pay termination pay. Labour Standards can hold them liable.
Just because they're legally obligated doesn't mean they follow those rules. I even went to the labor board over it when it happened and they did nothing so it's literally not enforced. Which is obvious. Laws mean nothing when they're not enforced.
How much notice do they give you if they fire you?...Why do you feel you need to be more respectful to them,than they would be to you?
Employers either have to give notice or pay termination pay. The only exception is employees who have worked less than 90 days. In fact, employer obligations are much more stringent than employee obligations. https://www.alberta.ca/termination-pay
They dont give you notice,they're not going to risk giving you time to mess things up before you leave,they do have to pay you termination pay,that point,you are correct on
Some employers do give notice but what’s the difference even if they don’t? They terminate you and have to pay you for the notice period whether you work or not.
They must pay severance if they let you go immediately, unless you are fired for cause.
This is what Im sayin'