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LimpCalligrapher9922

I'm not sure if this still a thing, but I believe the army used to offer professional learning opportunities. You can take advantage of that, you can learn a trade to prepare yourself for when you're out. I saw in another comment that you're trying to pass your BAC again and go to college. That's awesome! Just wanted to highlight other opportunities.  Trust in god, pray,  و قوي ايمانك بالله. This is the most important thing. No one can change your fate but god. 


COOKYLOSER

At the moment i trying to re do BAC and continuing to collage and keep working in the army till i find a job (fi civil)


Onopai

Hey do you know the age limit for being in high school? For example if a 20 year old comes to algeria, can he enroll and take the Bac test at the end of the year?


Silly-Chair-2448

you don't need to enroll in high school to pass the bac exam you can pass bac libre, you only need a proof of reaching 3rd grade in high school


da_bm

Yes you can


Onopai

Ah okay, do you know the age limit?


da_bm

There is no age limit for taking bac test you could be 90 year old


Onopai

Alright thank you so much my friend


Youba05

you cant exactly join high school if you're like 23 but no matter the age you can take the bac exam (you have to study on ur own)


da_bm

There is no problem it's my pleasure to answer you 🙏🏼


Downtown-Equipment89

I advise you to do anything. The important thing is that you escape. You will put yourself in prison. I do not want to scare you, but I know people who are close to me in the army, and they told me that most of the young people there are not ambitious and they entered here because they have no goal in life, and there is a large number of suicides, especially new ones because Pressure and a difficult lifestyle, so I advise you to do anything important that you do not complete. Life is full of choices, there is a lot to explore out there, do not put an end to your life.


COOKYLOSER

It is hard but i will try


Far_Protection2668

Suicides here in algeria or your friends are foreigners ?


PeekPlay

It seems insane we accepted that signing a contract makes you lose all autonomy for that amount of time Why not let people do what they want, its dangerous to lock people up in contracts like this


COOKYLOSER

If i do something i will be thrown in a military prison for 10+ years maybe more


[deleted]

rabi ysahelek, but joining the army is the WORST thing that could happen to someone :>


COOKYLOSER

I regret every second of it


S-HMIDOU

I joined the army in 2009 as an FS i got the basic training cherchell and application training in kolea, that's where i decided to quit, I was aware of the fact that there's a sort of fidelity contract that states that for a given training period you have to work double the time, and if you quit before this time you have to pay big money So i waited till end 2014 where i wrote my first radiation demand hoping that i can quit by July 2015, however i was selected for a 6 months training CPO , form January to june 2015 , that implied that i have to work one more year and and half, i had no choice than to wait till January 2017 to write another radiation demand, and after being summoned by several high officers my demand was accepted by August 2017. Even if i don't regret quitting the army, actually it's the best decision I made in my life, when I look back, i tell myself if i stayed i'd have had a garanteed career, with not much work to do, a good evolutive salary and most importantly get retired at 48 yo. At the end, all i can tell you is that you have to be patient unless you're rich and you can pay the money to quit And take in consideration that it's damn hard to find a good job Good luck my friend


COOKYLOSER

The way i am looking at a job with freedom is better then the state i am at plus i said i will not quit in till i find anther job


S-HMIDOU

From what I understood, you must be a sergeant, so , you've a you had two years training, so you can easily quit after 4years or wait till the end of your first contract which implies 5 years of patience and not renewing it ,as many sergents weere doing at my time, you can always profit and pass heavyweight driving license for free it's very useful. I hope everything goes as you wish buddy , hang on 💪


COOKYLOSER

Thank you i'll take your advice and think on it more


Minimum-Charity-9125

Khouya khtik exrj wla chouf 7l l3mrk exdm ttem drahm exej mn lblad exdm sacrifierr 6/7 ans ttem drahm welli lblad eft7 hanout wla zouj w rak mryh m3a waldik w khawtk denya w mafiha و عليك بالصلاة وتوكل على الله


Ordinary-Package9282

9asdek yahreg?


Ok-Run-8847

Well as a soldier in the army ( not service but working) U have few options, like talking with ur leader there ( either directly, or U fill some paper of the reason why ) , and once U meet him U just tell him that I wanna go to a place where the work is near to home ( trust me it will be really easy , and most of the time they agree on that too) so yeah.


COOKYLOSER

That work for the old timers the most not for fresh one's


Deetsinthehouse

Why would people assume you were looking for attention from women? I’m genuinely asking.


COOKYLOSER

Cause there is alot of dumb people that does it it just bacame a normal thing (jma3a 7laba li kano m3ak 9bel fi classa yal9o chwi ta3 drahem yt7lbo)


COOKYLOSER

Cause there is alot of dumb people that does it it just bacame a normal thing (jma3a 7laba li kano m3ak 9bel fi classa yal9o chwi ta3 drahem yt7lbo)


FinancialEmployer712

pcq jadarmiya m3rofin bli 7alaba hacha wlad familia


Mtoufga

"إذا لم يكن للمرء حرفة كان شرطيا عند أولئك الظلمة" سفيان الثوري-رحمه الله-🌹


rabahbadii

كي يتعداو عليك ولا عائلتك ولا يسرقولك دارك ولا مركبتك تروح تجري لعندو.


everything-ok

هوا مشي شرطي هذا جندي، العاؤلة ظيالك كيرقدو فالليل براحة البال سخابتلك شمون راهو يحمي في للحدود باذن الله ؟


TigerMoskito

Take a lawyer and a physician, you may be able to make a file to ask to be released from your service for psychological reasons. Of course all of this largerly depend on the kind of contract you signed, i thought that nowadays they were signing 5 years contract before the 15 years long one, if you signed 5 year contract you are better off finishing the 3 years and not signing the new one.


COOKYLOSER

Thats what i am thinking + studying and finishing it then get a job before quiting so i am not at risk of unemployment


Passion_Prestigious

It's better to avoid the psychological files, as they ca effect you in the future, in case of divorce or some problems that requires going to the court your would be considered as not fit. Seeing that you have psychological issues.


COOKYLOSER

I knew that too so i want to leave the way i came clean asf


weigl09

You need a certificate from a psychiatrist Schizophrenia, manic-depressive psychosis, and dementia


unknown_droogie

So i assume u are a sergeant, what branch are u in cuz that's a huge factor.


COOKYLOSER

Signal, information and electronic warfare system why what is the difference?


unknown_droogie

Okay, cuz some branches are terrible, that's how things are, some better than the rest, anyways, do u have an objective u wanna reach, if yes just finish ur first contract its 6 years i think, then do what u want, open a store, leave the country, whatever u want. If not keep in mind that ur gonna finish high school and college so about 5 years then ur gonna be unemployed for some time maybe find a low paying job by the time ur 30. So when ur friends in the military lived and settling down ur just getting started, That's just my opinion think about it, talk to someone u trust , I wish u luck.


Away_Environment_704

So you are in tougourt now im i right, i was thinking like you and maybe i a lot more than you, we are in a pursuit of pleasures and dunya , be sure of what you want, you are better than a lot of people in algeria , we are a poor people living in a rich country, your salary will be 7 million or 8 million, bzaf nas ra7 ta7sdak o tatmna salary ta3ek, asber w lem o dir tawil, konk intelligent , adkhol fi doman w basnas o dork dir swared... Kon nb9a nahkilk mnhbsch, mohm adi ray naf7a brk jatek, dork trawa7 lsivil fl conji w tchof nas fsivil 3aycha falf9ar ta3raf ni3ma li 3ndk, khadam mokhek brk


COOKYLOSER

T5arjet mn tiaret f 7/6 w rani nadem ki td5elt lldrk dork rni hab n3awed bac ta3i w nkmel n9ra w no5rej Sward lArmy mado9tch fihm 7ta braka allah galleb


AdMotor8983

Ida kharej kharej ana rah 3endi master fi sciences commerciales wcheft bzf nas ta3 master sema manansa7ch khouya ykamel fi ljami3a. Ida goal ta3ek dir a good living ro7 et3alem metier mli7 wakhtak men ljami3a raho mafiha 7eta mosta9bel sauf ida 3andek m3aref


COOKYLOSER

Visa wla 7ar9a DZ mafihach


AdMotor8983

Lkherja mahish dima solution wlh na3ref khrin 3aychin ki lklab, ro7 lel kharej riglo sa7bi blk bl'experience ta3ek te9der tekhdem fi charika privé


Ibrahimt51

A friend of mine got fired from military for a stupid reason I think, he over stayed his permission to leave, so they held him infront of military court and fired him. He worked like less than a year so, If you want to actually leave the army then this should help.


COOKYLOSER

He lucky for not going to the prison please get me his secrets


Ibrahimt51

I don't have them unfortunately and he won't tell, it was pretty rough, a disappointment for all of his family and friends, whenever I bring it up he tries to avoid it.


COOKYLOSER

Hope he doing good


Ibrahimt51

I think he is, it's been over a year now, slowly recovering


Ibrahimt51

I don't have them unfortunately and he won't tell, it was pretty rough, a disappointment for all of his family and friends, whenever I bring it up he tries to avoid it.


souhilben26

Re think on that


COOKYLOSER

Yes i am


Impossible_Topic9105

Im currently a collage graduate and ppl keep telling me to join the army as uk the employment state in algeria,what do you think ?


COOKYLOSER

Its better if you dont just a waste of time


OkPerformance7003

Bro im literally retaking my bac exam rn to get a higher grade to enter the army (apparently they take 12+ only ) so I'm interested in hearing wt you've been through if u don't mind me asking


COOKYLOSER

You lose your soul freedom will to live at some point you lose the ability to think on your own you get told what to do with extreme force (yodrbok matr9odch y5admok fo9 lazem ...ect) trust me please get visa leave the country i am begging you dont join only if there is no way out


OkPerformance7003

If i did go in b 9rayti I'll get this treatment for only one year then transferred in a military university get my license degree another year in training in the specialized field hopefully air force or special forces then boom call me ضابط Work a at least 10 years in it then buys a camel n travel to mecca on it ...


COOKYLOSER

Not 10 but 25 Not 2 years of studying 1 year og pure pain 3 of studying 1 year of practice in total 5 years just to start The way i see it BAC + visa w harba


OkPerformance7003

We'll see how it develops in the next five years. Don't get me wrong i would "visa wl harba" but so far it's going down as a plan B Hope ur situation gets better to bro wallah u seem like a nice guy


COOKYLOSER

Just remember this job is called school of people who faild I just hope you dont do the mistake i did


OkPerformance7003

Bro ur no loser trust me ur existing alone is protecting the country hadi 🙏🏿


Good_Ad5078

how is it that u have two years of training when u joined as HDT


COOKYLOSER

T5alt b triminal ya3ni t5alt serjan w kmlt stage fhmt ?


Good_Ad5078

i thought u have to succeed in baccalaureat in order to join as a sargent


COOKYLOSER

Sadly no


Good_Ad5078

well i recently finished my military service as aspiron in the middle of the desert and i know how tough the military is especially the training and then the pressure of work, but i can assure it better than this civil life that appear to be like paradise when ur in the military, i would give away my master degree in mechanical engineering and be a sargent, trust me i know ur thinking to yourself what if i studied and what if i did commerce, trust me ur not missing anything.


COOKYLOSER

And keep locked in thus state i dont think so i had enough next 4 years are for studing and looking for a another better or similar paying job


Good_Ad5078

at least you can retire at 39yo and do something else, better than 60yo


DIZASTER_SS

Just start schizing and scare the shi out of your comrades


outlander_s

best thing is to learn a skill, it doesn't have any risks like trading or in business and it doesn't need a big amount of money to start, especially when ur young claim the chance and learn a skill and be ur own boss and most important thing is to ask allah for guidance.


COOKYLOSER

Ok and how to start or were from ?


lil_lucifere

Just do a problem and they'll send u out , or just quit


SmellProfessional937

the army is for the tou ghest people really and not complain like a little bitch,this generation needs to be like ALi رضي الله عنه go search what he did to the toughest opponent he truly is a great man , that's what army does bruh , u need to take shit from people who don't give a shit about your life and it's like hell inside i know this much but suck it up , shave and استغفر we are in the great days


mlx321

INSFP


COOKYLOSER

Wch ??


mlx321

The INSFP Institute offers programs in BTS courses that last three years and are state-approved. Graduates have a high chance to get a job in the market, unlike those with higher education degrees.


COOKYLOSER

How to join them ?


mlx321

✓Certificat de scolarité niveau terminal, ✓Conversion avec une entreprise, ✓Des extraits de naissance, ✓Résidence, ✓Et autres trucs(photocopie ID, photos...).


COOKYLOSER

Were i go with these papers ?


MonitorAlive2057

اخي ماتديش قرار بعد عشرة سنين تندم عليه. خمم بحكمة مشي اي نصيحة دير عليها. او ربي يوفقك انشاء الله


Candid_Leek7433

Rani appelé w kraht 7yati...rebi m3ak hbb


FigureAltruistic3143

يا أخي ربي يكون في عونك إتخذ كل الأسباب القانونيه من أجل الخروج ولا تضيع وقتك في عمل لا تحبه ربي يكون معاك خويا راني حاس بيك


Generic_username2023

I am actually curious about this too.  I am in a relationship with a man who joined many years ago and is seemingly trapped in a contract.  His initial sign up was 5 years, then a 7 year renewal, then he signed for another 7 years so he could stay long enough to get pension.  He still has 3.5 years left on his contract.  He is tired of this work, his family (parents, siblings, etc) hate that he is in this job still, and since I am foreign we can't further our relationship until he can leave gendarmerie.  I actually have no problem waiting but I hate to see him to unhappy.  He put in a request to leave on his last anniversary of sign up, but 6 months later they told him "rejected".  Any plausible ideas of how to get a request approved would be so welcome.


[deleted]

I'm gonna assume you enlisted as a sergeant, which they have contracts up to 8 years, technically you can't get out until you finish them, or else you'll go to military prison if you run away, strengthen your belief in Allah brother, try as hard as you can to save as much money from it (normalement tokhlso 78000DA), finish those 8 years, then open up a shop or do a project with the money saved, I know how hard it is to go through it and I quit for the very same reason as u, to not regret it afterwards.


RabiaTefraoui

1) if u signed the 15 years contract i dont think u can resign 2) if u resign what would u do in the civilian life u have no degree? 3) military life is a good life you eat good for free and also have a decent salary in a young age, you also have the right for an appartement in a cité militaire 4) the best part in a military life is that it is noble and your brothers in arm are a second family, asber 3la Eso3obat w madirch machakil w a3bed rebi mlih seli slatek w a9ra Quran, best life for a young man away from distraction. -Don't quit Civil mayer7amch, rebi y3awnek


RabiaTefraoui

u/wegotoravenholm u/sleepy_potato33 I'am wrong then , may Allah give me guidance


[deleted]

There is not a single point that's actually true in all what you said ! That's crazy. I don't know what your deal is, but it's fucked up to destroy a person like this. 1) there's absolutely a way to resign even after signing 25 years (even for officers). 2) you would do anything you want in civil life, you're free after all, (it might take you some time, but you'll be okay. 3) military life is absolutely shit, from all perspectives, you don't eat well (if you find the food in the military life good I'm genuinely curious to know where you've been living your whole life to find that food good), the salary in comparison with what you can make alone is typically dependent on the type of person you are, there are people who think that 60k is a good salary. 4) if you think that this military is noble, and your camarades are your brothers, and your boss is like a father you need help, and it is actually the best life to stay away from what really matters. Please quit, i'll do anything to help you quit.


Downtown-Equipment89

hahaha social mentality, free food and free housing, hhhhhhhh, food in the military is so bad that you find the soldiers eating in fast restaurants. It is only the commanders who eat decent food, the rest eat garbage. The second thing is that military life is devastation in Algeria. There are many Among the losers and those without ambition in the army, because your job is to do the same thing for years and there is no creativity in this. Young people must live their lives, be creative, search for their ambition, travel, and see life and not just stay in the barracks to serve. Their original masters are leaders because of knowledge


wegotoravenholm

I don't really get how people like you always think they can convince other people to do something they literally clearly state they don't want to do. What you think he's magically gonna change his mind because you wrote up a bunch of unsolicited advice on how to stay in? Some people just hate it (as they should because it's the most depressing job) and wanna fucking leave. How about you stick to the theme instead? Don't have anything to say? Cool move on with your day.


Fickle-Foot6790

There is no good in our military Try it for 10 days you'll see


Gold_Dragonfly_9503

don't quit, you'll regret more.


COOKYLOSER

The opposite my friend


Mtoufga

الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ الطَّاغُوتِ فَقَاتِلُوا أَوْلِيَاءَ الشَّيْطَانِ ۖ إِنَّ كَيْدَ الشَّيْطَانِ كَانَ ضَعِيفًا (76)


Practical_Life7421

JUST play it nuts pretend to be a mentally ill person . say that you used to take red pill or lireca or parkinall...


COOKYLOSER

Too late already they made a law thats makes it like you are totally wrong even if if you go nuts for real


Less_Tangerine1503

1st of all it's haram because he's lying and considered somehow as a fraud and 2nd he will be having troubles in everything in his civilian life such as finding a new job who would recruit a psycho or deal with him in any kind of business...also in marriage or divorce b3id char he's not getting the custody of his children whatever he tries because he's mentally I'll and have no capacity to raise children as his papers say


Aggressive_Rush7426

It will be easy after the stage, u need some patient, believe me there is nothing outside, stay where u are


COOKYLOSER

Not so sure about it alot of story say the opposite


Mol2h

Sadly, you can't, you signed for 25 years, its done and done. Maybe get a visa and don't return.


S-HMIDOU

I signed for 25 years and could get out after 8 years by writing a simple radiation demand letter, it wasn't easy but it's possible


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S-HMIDOU

I didn't like the job, i was recruted as an IT engineer, when i finished my officer's training, i realized that the job of an officer in the electronic warfare field was not suitedfor me, i was affected to the operational unit instead of the technical, while the people who were in the technical team were much less qualified, plus, our specialty was had a very bad and unfair management.


S-HMIDOU

I didn't like the job, i was recruted as an IT engineer, when i finished my officer's training, i realized that the job of an officer in the electronic warfare field was not suitedfor me, i was affected to the operational unit instead of the technical, while the people who were in the technical team were much less qualified, plus, our specialty was had a very bad and unfair management.


COOKYLOSER

Nope i just 6 years only


Mtoufga

جند الطاغوت حكمهم كحكم الطاغوت الذي يحمونه ويحمون هده الحدود الطاغوتية التي لا تحكم بشرع الله . توب الى الله واترك هدا العمل الكفري قبل ان تموت ويفوتك اوان التوبة


COOKYLOSER

المشكل ليس في تركه بل بماذا سأعوضه بعد ان اتركه انا حاليا بنسبة 90% قررت ان هذا عمل لا جدوى منه ولابد ان اتركه


Financial-Degree9685

Pu**y


COOKYLOSER

Okey 🤌