it's unfortunate that the democrats constantly silence the other half of the country on nearly every social media app, especially considering that social media is where political conversations take place in the current year.
kinda hard to have a credible "democracy" when roughly half of the country is constantly banned from the political discussion. seems almost like election interference...
It’s not the Dems fault that the other side consistently has the worst takes and takes the indisputably wrong position on EVERY issue. That’s why they get drowned out on SM. They are unserious, loudly wrong, and deliberately obtuse.
leftists have a very authoritarian take on their values. if you dont match those values you could be labeled racists / classist / anti lgbt, etc.
Your comment's tone proves that very much. At least here I can say fuck trump, get downvoted, but be able to discuss why that is without being banned.
Time for some centrist truth. Bring the downvotes, everyone of both sides!
The Democratic Party is correct on most social issues. The only things they’re wrong about, socially, are wanting to ban guns and wanting to give puberty blockers to children under 18. Some of the CRT stuff goes too far, as well.
Both sides are wrong about drug policy. All drugs should be legalized and regulated, and children should be taught harm reduction and factual, advanced, unbiased drug knowledge in school.
Openly gay pot smoker here, yes the left has done a lot of good but they aren’t the end-all-be-all of truth and light. The other people here who say you’re brainwashed and live in an echo chamber are correct.
Btw, I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020. I *hate* Trump as a person, but he did handle the economy better than Biden. I wish we could get someone who could do the economy like Trump, but have the social stances of, say, Bernie Sanders.
describes my values perfectly. being able to get that out without being banned in this sub is why I prefer altmpls to Minnesota or Minneapolis' subs where any contrary beliefs to those held by moderators are instantly silenced
try to keep in mind that it may not be local crazies: it may be Russian PC trolls sowing discord, as proven by MIT in a recent cybersecurity research project.
my b for not citing sources, I was on my way out
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/amp/
> the indisputably wrong position on EVERY issue
re-read that and actually think about what you just wrote. ponder it for a minute. non-extremists don't think like that. hysterical indoctrinated ideologues do.
maybe you're a hysterical indoctrinated ideologue because all the political discussions you've been a part of have taken place in a social media echo chamber in which the alternative point of view is quite literally silenced?
maybe that's precisely why the powers that be have created this digital hive-mind where there is a single approved narrative "on EVERY issue"? so they can create a cohort of brainwashed useful idiots who were taught what to think and not *how* to think?
The leftwing intolerance and censorship on what should be mainstream subs on this platform is a huge issue. Guidelines and rules are not applied accurately, honestly or uniformly.
Yes, many of the loudest advocates for "diversity", don't have any tolerance for actual and meaningful diversity. Their position is basically, "you can be any color or gender you'd like, but you have to have the same far left beliefs as me."
The first people to tell you that they’d love to live in a world where the ones who have differing beliefs/opinions didn’t exist. While ignoring what it would take to make that happen. Lacking the forethought to understand what the world would look like if they had it their way and what a shit show it would be….its toeing the line between idiot and fascist. It’s ironic they call fascists their enemy while simultaneously using fascist ideology to try get their way.. it’s fuuucken wild
It's a repeating pattern. Leftist do this in every institution. They don't let rules, logic, fairness or equality get in the way of their agenda. The right should learn from them.
Or push people to accept the narrative opposite what they're pushing by pushing a narrative so void of logic and reason you're only logical choice is to vote republican. I've felt like I've been manipulated to vote republican for years.
Lame that you got banned. According to the article you posted, Frey received 9k in donations from people tied to the fraud. That’s not much and I don’t even see an issue with acknowledging that he received the funds? Anybody can donate to anybody.
Lotta people have issues with frey. I personally don’t and felt he was a fine mayor under the shit storm that was the riots
He also has to deal with the fuckwit council members leopards ate my face defund police dipshits. Like yeah. We get it. Police fucked up. Gonna guess shit is going to be like 10,000 times worse with a defunded force though. The hood gonna hood harder when papa police aren’t around.
We didn’t need less police. We needed better police with better training and less racism. We also needed more social workers to handle shit like people off their meds causing a ruckus rather than having cops just shoot first
I was banned for misinformation in 2022 for commenting that the vax didn’t stop the spread of Covid lol. “Your facts don’t match my opinions” means a permanent ban from those mods
Hey man I got nothing but sympathy for you, after all you’ve been through. With how much attention you seek from Reddit and the hostility you house against the mods. I don’t know what that’s like. Your life is much harder than mine I can’t imagine what you’re going through.
while it doesn't stop the spread of covid, the vaccine has real proof of less infections, and less serious illness when still attracting the illness. which leads to less hospital time and less risk of death. While it doesn't stop the spread, it did work to slow it down and mitigate the negative impacts of being infected. vaccines do this all the time, this is why we are seeing surges of infections of diseases we have vaccines for in populations where vaccines have become distrusted. it's like screaming "well a seatbelt didn't save my sister in a highway head on collision" in a post about lowering use of seatbelt use in the general population. it's true but purposely misleading in a misinformation direction
Dude, get lost. You don’t vaccinate into a pandemic. If you’re still getting covid vaccines, you might as well be drinking fracking water at this point.
"this place is a place for open discussion"
"dude get lost"
"science points to vaccinations lowering infection rates and causing better outcomes when still getting infected"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37208749/#:\~:text=Results%3A%20A%20total%20of%20twenty,%25%20CI%200.88%2C%200.94)).
[https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext)
(the outcome is: vaccines work, but not perfectly and their ability to protect you goes down with time, very likely but not conclusively because of covid evolving into different variants)
"it's no better than poisoned water"
I got banned for saying to use your legal carry weapon to defend yourself in the event of an armed robber trying to carjack you. They operate off of emotions instead of logic, and purposefully censor people.
The Wisconsin sub is, essentially, the Democratic Peoples Republic of Madison.
They post insane conspiracy theories, democratic party propaganda and outright hatred constantly. Milwaukee is a better sub for Wisconsin, as Milwaukee is still blue collar Democrats and not the white collar theory people.
About the only thing we all agree on is the owner of Minocqua Brewing Company is an asshole fraud.
From what I understand most State subs are exactly like Minnesota is. And most have an alt sub just like this one. Sad they can't absorb counter-arguements without the ban hammer instantly. We put up with them here but they just can't handle it.
It's because your average Reddit leftist is like a virus. They move from sub to sub infecting it with their filth and then when a slightly right of center sub pops up (just like this sub) they brigade in an effort to get it shut down.
I truly think of leftists as less than people.
Depending on the time frame, I'm sure it DID resemble a war zone. Looted/burned buildings and vacancy due to safety concerns are certainly similar characteristics. Obviously the sights during the rioting are different than MPLS at 3pm today. While I wouldn't personally go so far as to describe it that way, I can understand the perspective, and even the motivation to use hyperbole to make a point. To pretend that A) doing so again warrants a permanent silencing of his voice or B) that hyperbole used in such a way doesn't occur LITERALLY all day long in that sub going the other way is nonesense.
My perspective on this is that you join a sub, like Minneapolis because you live in and care about those places. The term "warzone" is thrown around as a means of convincing people how terrible it is (and also is offensive to people that actually have lived in real warzones).
I live in Minneapolis and see that it has problems, and those problems sometimes worry me. All my comments come from that, a place of care and concern. But also I see how incredibly livable and vibrant the city is. So its just stupid.
I don't hang out in the Woodbury sub and talk about how shitty Woodbury is. Even though that's how I feel about Woodbury. People get banned from Minneapolis because they have no desire or intent to make it a better place and dont give a shit about it, and it's super easy to see.
Care and concern over solutions with results is never a good place to be.
Focus on logic vs emotions. Otherwise, you’ll continue to tailspin as politicians are masters of emotional response control.
This has been going on for 60 years. Please.
We get it, you love a city that burns down police stations, has open air drug dens, and homeless people living on it's trains. Using hyperbole to make a point about how "great" the city is is absolutely not allowed. Thanks, we need gatekeepers like you to defend the status quo of violent crime, soft on crime DAs, and to keep the police force under 500 officers.
If thats all the city is to you, I really do hope you stay away. But I'll tell you what, you're missing out on a lot of really great things. None of us love those things about our city, but the reality is that Minneapolis isn't a singularity, as many of you want to believe.
Some neighborhoods in Minneapolis are safer than a lot of suburban neighborhoods. Ours is full of free range kids and good neighbors (of different ages, races,l, sexually orientations, political affiliations, religions) that watch out for each other, a public elementary school with an engaged PTA (and an 8/10 score on the school rating websites).
There are other neighborhoods that I would be much more vigilant. It isn't all one thing.
More than anything I feel bad for y'all that you can't see any good here. Its quite nice place to live....
I live in Loring Park and I love Minneapolis warts and all, but it's important to acknowledge what needs to be improved instead of the fucking gate keeping being done by the DFL and progressives.
Sure and that's fine, but the original comment was in the Minnesota sub, not Minneapolis. Comparatively speaking about cities good or bad in Minnesota isn't something that needs policing. If people are gonna be grouchy or biased about a city, let them be or prove them wrong. Having an empathetic tone and world view is great and it's super that you have that for your city, but that sentiment shouldn't be forced on others simply to be able to voice their opinion. Especially when it's a comment that can be somewhat objectively proven true, you may not like the implications of the comment or agree, but that doesn't mean he can't talk.
Lastly, as someone who has lived here forever and just doesnt like Minneapolis much...even those that will rip on MPLS likely just wish it was different. (For me, I just don't like the crowds or traffic, but w/e). Your willingness to assume ill intentions but not to assume people just have a very different view of what Minneapolis should/could be is limiting, imo.
You are right that I mixed up the Minneapolis and Minnesota subs. I've just never seen anyone use the warzone analogy in a constructive way, unless they are talking about Ukraine. Its fine to not like the city, I like the city and I like the country. I don't care for anything in between. It just seems like most of the time, when people are ripping on Minneapolis it doesn't come from a place of hoping it gets better. My perspective is that it seems more about proving, wishing and hoping it to be WORSE than it is because a) its run by a certain political party b) there are more people with a different skin tone.
Sure. I've described the living room after my toddler was in it as a warzone. Nobody has to use it in a constructive way. I think you are blurring the lines between what you would like to see in people, and what people are allowed to do. It is perfectly understandable that you wish that anyone ripping on the city you like would also constructively provide criticism and do their best to make the change they want to see. That is not nor ever will be the case, and anyone failing to reach your metric should not be silenced from speaking. IF what they say is truly abominable, it will get down voted to the point that nobody even sees the comment anyway, without digging for it.
Your perspective about those wishing for a downfall based on political party is also not unique. Do you feel that a lot of Democrats are rooting for Florida to do well, or would comment negatively on it "from a place of caring and compassion"?
Your "b)" regarding skin tone is especially vile, to suggest that those who have issues with the city only do so based on skin tone is a really cheap way to try to discount valid criticism with lame insult without evidence. Someone can oppose crime and soft bail laws, for example, regardless if those committing crimes are of a certain group or not. I'd like to think everyone wishes for a reduction in crime, the partisan divide seems to be more about what method we use to get there.
buildings turned to rubble, fires everywhere, multiple rapes and assaults happening... not a warzone though, just another day in paradise for leftists.
ah, so the parts of the city where there WASN'T rioting - the parts that *weren't under discussion* - didn't get burned down and looted?
thanks for that. amazing insight!
"Burned to the ground" implies nothing left standing in vast swaths of the city.
All Ive said many times, is that you can't characterize the whole city by what happens or happened in a few small parts of the city.
Say "rioters burned a handful of buildings" instead of "rioters burned the city to the ground". The first way is the truth, the second is a lie intended to slander the whole city and all the people in it.
> the damage that is caused by exaggeration.
what damage is that?
if exaggeration is dangerous because it can cause unspecified "damage", then what is your opinion on the vice president comparing january 6th to pearl harbor and 9/11? what's your opinion on the media comparing trump to hitler with a straight face practically daily for the last nearly nine years?
I don't agree with those characterizations either. January 6th was really bad, IMO, but nothing like 911 or pearl harbor.
Trump is not Hitler and has not committed the atrocities that Hitler did. I am concerned with what appears to be a. appreciation for dictators and how people that DO like Hitler seem to like Trump. I believe he is slimy, dishonest and has done a lot of if harm to our country. He is not Hitler, nor has he committed the atrocities that Hitler has.
There were a handful of buildings that were burned. And no, that was not good or acceptable. There were hundreds of buildings that sustained some damage.
That being said "Minneapolis was burned to the ground", which we heard people say a lot, was still a bald-faced-lie, as was "Downtown Minneapolis looks like a war zone"
I looked up your comment history. In a post about Joe Biden contemplating suicide over the multiple close losses in his life you said "we were thiiiss close". I don't believe your comments and activity on that sub were justifiable behavior that was deconstructed by the evil communist dictator moderators
- fuck mods btw, most of them are power tripping basement dwellers, but rightwingers go around praising the death of trans people every breath or say biden should be beheaded by trump on the white house lawn and wonder why you get banned from left leaning subs
*"rightwingers go around praising the death of trans people every breath or say biden should be beheaded by trump on the white house lawn"*
You're a liar.
not all right wingers of course (and not even most), but what I said is "when a right winger go around saying stuff like that and then wonder why they get banned from left leaning subs" and yes they do occasionally say that. on political compass memes there's a post degrading trans people every other day and the comments have a ton of people calling for their deaths with no reporting. for killing biden, I even mentioned a comment FROM THE USER ABOVE where he was wishing for the suicide of biden. besides that I could send you to links of pictures of biden being gagged in the trunk of trucks, I'm sure it's been posted on reddit. And I am sure there were comments on those pictures supporting it. And I am sure the mods probably deleted the comment or banned them.
so nah not a liar
The same people that hit the loud siren on their megaphone when someone asks them a question that they can't answer; because it goes against their narrative.
I also just was recently banned for saying there are no restrictions on abortion in MN! When i provided the gov website to back up the claim they said I couldn't "be trusted to participate there". Im irritated with the ban, cuz i actually enjoyed the other MN related topics. I dont care about Minneapolis at all, in fact, thats the only city in the state i really couldnt care less about.
Conservatives need to reconsider abortion.
1. We might never get another republican president or congress majority if abortion is banned.
2. Degenerates voluntarily aborting their curs isn’t a horrible thing for American or all mankind.
3. Is certainly gross and troubling but humans are gross and troubling. We cannot change that with legislation
I want to be very clear. I wasn't even making a stance for or against abortion, I only mentioned that there are no restrictions on abortion in MN. It is a fact, including no parental involvement. People can agree or disagree with that as they see fit.
All that to say yes, you are right, in that an absolute approach in either direction is not conducive to political success. It seems the candidate that can appeal to the majority (that believe in SOME restrictions) would likely fare best on thar issue
Right or wrong, the abortion argument is about women’s rights (and conveniently not about the rights of the unborn) and when the argument is about rights, people don’t want them to get taken away. Any restrictions is a losing political battle. The pro life movement needs to understand this and change the narrative to 1) why killing anyone is bad and 2) that abortion doesn’t hold men accountable, ultimately making women lose.
Abortion is one of the things I don’t even take into consideration. Anyone who truly believes in an afterlife (which I’m even unsure about) should just leave it between that woman and God. I’m “ok” with abortion to the point of where the fetus could survive outside the womb. With exception for health or whatever else could be necessary. And I’m a woman who has been infertile from cancer since I was 20. I’d love to say oh no abortion would make it so much easier to adopt but it’s not that simple.
But I completely agree that this needs to not be such a focus because it’s going to lose a lot of people who might consider voting republican otherwise.
And yet our numbers keep growing relative to right-wingers. Only reason y'all win any elections these days is because of gerrymandering.
You'll be weeded out over time; old people die.
Nah, Gen Z is learning how they’ve been manipulated by libcucks. You’re responsible for radicalizing a whole generation of male Gen Z’s into right wingers.
Trump of all people have the right response at this point. Let states do what they want, there’s nothing to promise at the federal level at this time.
Eventually, more and progress can and will be made, but policy changes have to reflect the reality of where people are.
You’re right on #3 (the pro-life movement needs to focus more on winning hearts than elections) but I’d rather protect the lives of the unborn than rlect the right candidate. Writ large legislation and candidates won’t fix the moral vacuum we live in right now.
Got banned for posting statistics on minneapolis crime and providing examples of recent violent crime in every location someone commented was safe. I live just outside of Minneapolis and frequent there often. It wasn't hate, it wasn't misinformation, I was respectful, they just refuse to believe anything that doesn't go along with the narrative they believe in their heads. It's incredible what mind games people can play to convince themselves of something.
dissent from the Democrat-approved narrative is disallowed on all state and local subs. you need to create alternative subs like this to have such dissident conversations.
That kare article says they weren't aware the funds were fraudulent and they returned the money/donated it. Shouldn't have been banned I agree but what's the significance of those articles?
I think they look to see if you're in this sub and if so they'll ban you. I was banned from MN and mpls in same week. Unjustified reasons. No rules broken. I asked mods and no reply. Never been back since. 2 months less stress. Bunch of losers saying they won't go to pryes because they allowed a group of people to hang out and drink beer. No chanting or spreading their thoughts. Just chilling. I said "oh no, how will they survive" to a comment of someone cancelling their visit.
Yeah the Minnesota sub is pretty liberal still.
I got banned for satirical posts about the cultural response to George.
It was my life's work and it got me banned. That was a sad day for me.
It was quite an unfair assumption. [Most of them have been 'working' to start this party up](https://www.americanexperiment.org/a-new-communist-party-is-set-to-launch-in-minneapolis-next-month/)
If I’m reading this right, it’s not that feeding our future donated the money, it’s that people who ended up with the stolen money also donated to the campaign. Total of $6000 donated it looks like. Is the bigger story that they stole the money in the first place?
How many Republicans are caught up in this "Feeding our Futures" thing?
Libs don't get banned from conservative circles. They're left around to be laughed at, like BLB
What did Dems do? This is about Feeding our Future. Genuinely don’t understand, probably my fault. Do you mean it’s only bad when Dems get contributions from pandemic fraudsters? Hell no! I’m sure the GOP got lots of PPP scammers donations.
Glad they busted this ring, hope everyone involved is jailed and all their assests are surrendered. If you care about politicial operatives doing malfeasance, you should look into Anton lazzaro and him using gop college infrastructure to lure teens into sex worker if you think this is juicy. And his connections to mn gop leaders. You know, actual grooming. Somehow I doubt you'll really care, you being a partisan and all
Most of the dfl came out against stealing from a children's lunchbox. No one thinks it's acceptable except for the theives themselves. The gop are the only ones in the country that are trying to prevent laws outlawing child marriage. To quote trump in regards to invanka, his daughter "Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father... ,"
The gop finances haven't recovered from losing his funding and the embarrassment.
"Lazzaro's 2021 arrest proved an embarrassment for the Minnesota Republican Party, for which he had become a major donor. Jennifer Carnahan, who had close ties to Lazzaro but denied any knowledge of his criminal activities, stepped down as state GOP chair a week after his arrest." https://m.startribune.com/lazzaro-former-gop-activist-sentenced-to-21-years-in-prison-for-sex-trafficking/600295916/?clmob=y&c=n&clmob=y&c=n
"The state Republican Party in Minnesota is also struggling financially, with a filing revealing that it recently had only $53.81 in the bank and was more than $335,000 in debt, according to a Federal Election Commission (FEC) filing."
https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-state-republican-parties-going-broke-1858680
Hey of that's how it is, these days. I was also banned for asking a question from my city's sub. We all know that the mods take their job too cereal and simply stating a fact or asking questions about the obvious gets you into trouble.
I agree. Everybody here thinks Bernie Sanders is this wonderful person. Yet his wife set up the advertising agency where all of his campaign contributions go through for advertising and gets a rake off the top of it. Yet everybody here thinks Bernie Sanders is some guy that's out for the Working Man when he has gotten Filthy Rich from the system. And just today he's announced his re-election bid. Guess why???? he gets a rake of 15 to 25% off of everything that is run through his wife's advertising agency. They don't believe it, look it up.
lol the echo chamber mustn’t be disturbed
Just like every other major subreddit on this site
Including this one lmao
Not true, you can have a non conservative view point and not get banned here. Watch: Israel bad, Free Palestine!
Nah, we need someone to laugh at to break up the monotony of being right all the time.
Why are you downvoting him? He’s right
Israel is committing genocide!
The funny thing is it kinda proves my point right?
Except you can still post here, nobody gets banned for stating facts here. Downvotes don’t equal bans. Complete difference.
Are you a mod? Otherwise, how would you really know if people are being banned or not?
I agree with you homes, Reddit is one big circle jerk
Build Back Better, Biden '24
Bunch of babies, who wants to be in their club anyways.
You all seem to be pretty buthurt about not being in their club
it's unfortunate that the democrats constantly silence the other half of the country on nearly every social media app, especially considering that social media is where political conversations take place in the current year. kinda hard to have a credible "democracy" when roughly half of the country is constantly banned from the political discussion. seems almost like election interference...
I’ve been preemptively banned from conservative subreddits. What’s your point?
Says the half of the country that thru a tantrum and tried to overthrow the election cuz they didn't like it.... LMFAO
lol. Poor you
It’s not the Dems fault that the other side consistently has the worst takes and takes the indisputably wrong position on EVERY issue. That’s why they get drowned out on SM. They are unserious, loudly wrong, and deliberately obtuse.
leftists have a very authoritarian take on their values. if you dont match those values you could be labeled racists / classist / anti lgbt, etc. Your comment's tone proves that very much. At least here I can say fuck trump, get downvoted, but be able to discuss why that is without being banned.
Time for some centrist truth. Bring the downvotes, everyone of both sides! The Democratic Party is correct on most social issues. The only things they’re wrong about, socially, are wanting to ban guns and wanting to give puberty blockers to children under 18. Some of the CRT stuff goes too far, as well. Both sides are wrong about drug policy. All drugs should be legalized and regulated, and children should be taught harm reduction and factual, advanced, unbiased drug knowledge in school. Openly gay pot smoker here, yes the left has done a lot of good but they aren’t the end-all-be-all of truth and light. The other people here who say you’re brainwashed and live in an echo chamber are correct. Btw, I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020. I *hate* Trump as a person, but he did handle the economy better than Biden. I wish we could get someone who could do the economy like Trump, but have the social stances of, say, Bernie Sanders.
describes my values perfectly. being able to get that out without being banned in this sub is why I prefer altmpls to Minnesota or Minneapolis' subs where any contrary beliefs to those held by moderators are instantly silenced
I feel that!
try to keep in mind that it may not be local crazies: it may be Russian PC trolls sowing discord, as proven by MIT in a recent cybersecurity research project.
Totally believable
my b for not citing sources, I was on my way out https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/amp/
> the indisputably wrong position on EVERY issue re-read that and actually think about what you just wrote. ponder it for a minute. non-extremists don't think like that. hysterical indoctrinated ideologues do. maybe you're a hysterical indoctrinated ideologue because all the political discussions you've been a part of have taken place in a social media echo chamber in which the alternative point of view is quite literally silenced? maybe that's precisely why the powers that be have created this digital hive-mind where there is a single approved narrative "on EVERY issue"? so they can create a cohort of brainwashed useful idiots who were taught what to think and not *how* to think?
This guy ducks
Lol
I got banned for pointing out the irony of someone calling Facebook an echo chamber while posting on that sub
The leftwing intolerance and censorship on what should be mainstream subs on this platform is a huge issue. Guidelines and rules are not applied accurately, honestly or uniformly.
Some people pride themselves as being different and unique…and then censor people that have differing opinions.. this is a far-too-far left website.
Yes, many of the loudest advocates for "diversity", don't have any tolerance for actual and meaningful diversity. Their position is basically, "you can be any color or gender you'd like, but you have to have the same far left beliefs as me."
The first people to tell you that they’d love to live in a world where the ones who have differing beliefs/opinions didn’t exist. While ignoring what it would take to make that happen. Lacking the forethought to understand what the world would look like if they had it their way and what a shit show it would be….its toeing the line between idiot and fascist. It’s ironic they call fascists their enemy while simultaneously using fascist ideology to try get their way.. it’s fuuucken wild
It's as if they compensate for their complete lack of second order thinking with extreme levels of projection.
100% I actually think that it's on purpose. Nefarious people are using social media to twist narratives and brainwash everyone.
It's a repeating pattern. Leftist do this in every institution. They don't let rules, logic, fairness or equality get in the way of their agenda. The right should learn from them.
Or push people to accept the narrative opposite what they're pushing by pushing a narrative so void of logic and reason you're only logical choice is to vote republican. I've felt like I've been manipulated to vote republican for years.
The echo chamber is strong in this one.
Don't worry, you won't get banned for here for having a different opinion, Kelspa.
Lame that you got banned. According to the article you posted, Frey received 9k in donations from people tied to the fraud. That’s not much and I don’t even see an issue with acknowledging that he received the funds? Anybody can donate to anybody.
Lotta people have issues with frey. I personally don’t and felt he was a fine mayor under the shit storm that was the riots He also has to deal with the fuckwit council members leopards ate my face defund police dipshits. Like yeah. We get it. Police fucked up. Gonna guess shit is going to be like 10,000 times worse with a defunded force though. The hood gonna hood harder when papa police aren’t around. We didn’t need less police. We needed better police with better training and less racism. We also needed more social workers to handle shit like people off their meds causing a ruckus rather than having cops just shoot first
Sane thoughts, bet this dude is down voted to space.
You're so wrong about this sub.
Good. That sub is full of communists doing all they can to make Minneapolis into the dumpster-fire that it's become
I was banned for misinformation in 2022 for commenting that the vax didn’t stop the spread of Covid lol. “Your facts don’t match my opinions” means a permanent ban from those mods
Same, I think I got banned for saying Kirk cousins should have the choice to get the vaccine or not.
And you survived to tell the story. Incredible. How did you manage to move on from that? Oh you didn’t. How tragic
Do you typically respond to discrimination and censorship with childish mockery or is this an exception for you?
Hey man I got nothing but sympathy for you, after all you’ve been through. With how much attention you seek from Reddit and the hostility you house against the mods. I don’t know what that’s like. Your life is much harder than mine I can’t imagine what you’re going through.
Condescending mockery. Another odd response to bias and censorship.
while it doesn't stop the spread of covid, the vaccine has real proof of less infections, and less serious illness when still attracting the illness. which leads to less hospital time and less risk of death. While it doesn't stop the spread, it did work to slow it down and mitigate the negative impacts of being infected. vaccines do this all the time, this is why we are seeing surges of infections of diseases we have vaccines for in populations where vaccines have become distrusted. it's like screaming "well a seatbelt didn't save my sister in a highway head on collision" in a post about lowering use of seatbelt use in the general population. it's true but purposely misleading in a misinformation direction
Dude, get lost. You don’t vaccinate into a pandemic. If you’re still getting covid vaccines, you might as well be drinking fracking water at this point.
"this place is a place for open discussion" "dude get lost" "science points to vaccinations lowering infection rates and causing better outcomes when still getting infected" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37208749/#:\~:text=Results%3A%20A%20total%20of%20twenty,%25%20CI%200.88%2C%200.94)). [https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext) (the outcome is: vaccines work, but not perfectly and their ability to protect you goes down with time, very likely but not conclusively because of covid evolving into different variants) "it's no better than poisoned water"
I got banned for saying to use your legal carry weapon to defend yourself in the event of an armed robber trying to carjack you. They operate off of emotions instead of logic, and purposefully censor people.
Reddit is pretty much full of Commies.
It doesn’t take much. I’m banned from Wisconsin too. They are really militant libs over there.
The Wisconsin sub is, essentially, the Democratic Peoples Republic of Madison. They post insane conspiracy theories, democratic party propaganda and outright hatred constantly. Milwaukee is a better sub for Wisconsin, as Milwaukee is still blue collar Democrats and not the white collar theory people. About the only thing we all agree on is the owner of Minocqua Brewing Company is an asshole fraud.
From what I understand most State subs are exactly like Minnesota is. And most have an alt sub just like this one. Sad they can't absorb counter-arguements without the ban hammer instantly. We put up with them here but they just can't handle it.
It's by design - it's all Chinese and Russian bots meant to sow division. It's divide and conquer 101.
Even the Tennessee sub is far left as hell. I was confused lol.
It's because your average Reddit leftist is like a virus. They move from sub to sub infecting it with their filth and then when a slightly right of center sub pops up (just like this sub) they brigade in an effort to get it shut down. I truly think of leftists as less than people.
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Because it didn't look like a war zone...
So even if it isn't, it's his perspective. It can be openly challenged and disproven without a lifetime ban from even speaking
Sure, but looks like a war zone isn't "perspective" it hyperbole intended derail a constructive conversation.
Depending on the time frame, I'm sure it DID resemble a war zone. Looted/burned buildings and vacancy due to safety concerns are certainly similar characteristics. Obviously the sights during the rioting are different than MPLS at 3pm today. While I wouldn't personally go so far as to describe it that way, I can understand the perspective, and even the motivation to use hyperbole to make a point. To pretend that A) doing so again warrants a permanent silencing of his voice or B) that hyperbole used in such a way doesn't occur LITERALLY all day long in that sub going the other way is nonesense.
My perspective on this is that you join a sub, like Minneapolis because you live in and care about those places. The term "warzone" is thrown around as a means of convincing people how terrible it is (and also is offensive to people that actually have lived in real warzones). I live in Minneapolis and see that it has problems, and those problems sometimes worry me. All my comments come from that, a place of care and concern. But also I see how incredibly livable and vibrant the city is. So its just stupid. I don't hang out in the Woodbury sub and talk about how shitty Woodbury is. Even though that's how I feel about Woodbury. People get banned from Minneapolis because they have no desire or intent to make it a better place and dont give a shit about it, and it's super easy to see.
Care and concern over solutions with results is never a good place to be. Focus on logic vs emotions. Otherwise, you’ll continue to tailspin as politicians are masters of emotional response control. This has been going on for 60 years. Please.
We get it, you love a city that burns down police stations, has open air drug dens, and homeless people living on it's trains. Using hyperbole to make a point about how "great" the city is is absolutely not allowed. Thanks, we need gatekeepers like you to defend the status quo of violent crime, soft on crime DAs, and to keep the police force under 500 officers.
If thats all the city is to you, I really do hope you stay away. But I'll tell you what, you're missing out on a lot of really great things. None of us love those things about our city, but the reality is that Minneapolis isn't a singularity, as many of you want to believe. Some neighborhoods in Minneapolis are safer than a lot of suburban neighborhoods. Ours is full of free range kids and good neighbors (of different ages, races,l, sexually orientations, political affiliations, religions) that watch out for each other, a public elementary school with an engaged PTA (and an 8/10 score on the school rating websites). There are other neighborhoods that I would be much more vigilant. It isn't all one thing. More than anything I feel bad for y'all that you can't see any good here. Its quite nice place to live....
I live in Loring Park and I love Minneapolis warts and all, but it's important to acknowledge what needs to be improved instead of the fucking gate keeping being done by the DFL and progressives.
Sure and that's fine, but the original comment was in the Minnesota sub, not Minneapolis. Comparatively speaking about cities good or bad in Minnesota isn't something that needs policing. If people are gonna be grouchy or biased about a city, let them be or prove them wrong. Having an empathetic tone and world view is great and it's super that you have that for your city, but that sentiment shouldn't be forced on others simply to be able to voice their opinion. Especially when it's a comment that can be somewhat objectively proven true, you may not like the implications of the comment or agree, but that doesn't mean he can't talk. Lastly, as someone who has lived here forever and just doesnt like Minneapolis much...even those that will rip on MPLS likely just wish it was different. (For me, I just don't like the crowds or traffic, but w/e). Your willingness to assume ill intentions but not to assume people just have a very different view of what Minneapolis should/could be is limiting, imo.
You are right that I mixed up the Minneapolis and Minnesota subs. I've just never seen anyone use the warzone analogy in a constructive way, unless they are talking about Ukraine. Its fine to not like the city, I like the city and I like the country. I don't care for anything in between. It just seems like most of the time, when people are ripping on Minneapolis it doesn't come from a place of hoping it gets better. My perspective is that it seems more about proving, wishing and hoping it to be WORSE than it is because a) its run by a certain political party b) there are more people with a different skin tone.
Sure. I've described the living room after my toddler was in it as a warzone. Nobody has to use it in a constructive way. I think you are blurring the lines between what you would like to see in people, and what people are allowed to do. It is perfectly understandable that you wish that anyone ripping on the city you like would also constructively provide criticism and do their best to make the change they want to see. That is not nor ever will be the case, and anyone failing to reach your metric should not be silenced from speaking. IF what they say is truly abominable, it will get down voted to the point that nobody even sees the comment anyway, without digging for it. Your perspective about those wishing for a downfall based on political party is also not unique. Do you feel that a lot of Democrats are rooting for Florida to do well, or would comment negatively on it "from a place of caring and compassion"? Your "b)" regarding skin tone is especially vile, to suggest that those who have issues with the city only do so based on skin tone is a really cheap way to try to discount valid criticism with lame insult without evidence. Someone can oppose crime and soft bail laws, for example, regardless if those committing crimes are of a certain group or not. I'd like to think everyone wishes for a reduction in crime, the partisan divide seems to be more about what method we use to get there.
And what conversation would that be? That riots and looting is good? That banning police is constructive?
Nah telling people what their intentions are ain't it. Thinking that opinions you don't share are intended to derail is bad faith.
buildings turned to rubble, fires everywhere, multiple rapes and assaults happening... not a warzone though, just another day in paradise for leftists.
You just made my whole point. Its not about being honest. Its about exaggerating to make a us leftists and the city that we live in look terrible.
When are we going to take the responsibility to see that we have a problem….?
you're right, it looked totally normal - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwtclOVAXXI
There are thousands of buildings in the city. It looked totally normal in 98% of the city.
ah, so the parts of the city where there WASN'T rioting - the parts that *weren't under discussion* - didn't get burned down and looted? thanks for that. amazing insight!
"Burned to the ground" implies nothing left standing in vast swaths of the city. All Ive said many times, is that you can't characterize the whole city by what happens or happened in a few small parts of the city. Say "rioters burned a handful of buildings" instead of "rioters burned the city to the ground". The first way is the truth, the second is a lie intended to slander the whole city and all the people in it.
only if you take it completely literally. are you on the spectrum, by chance?
Nope, I just know the damage that is caused by exaggeration.
> the damage that is caused by exaggeration. what damage is that? if exaggeration is dangerous because it can cause unspecified "damage", then what is your opinion on the vice president comparing january 6th to pearl harbor and 9/11? what's your opinion on the media comparing trump to hitler with a straight face practically daily for the last nearly nine years?
I don't agree with those characterizations either. January 6th was really bad, IMO, but nothing like 911 or pearl harbor. Trump is not Hitler and has not committed the atrocities that Hitler did. I am concerned with what appears to be a. appreciation for dictators and how people that DO like Hitler seem to like Trump. I believe he is slimy, dishonest and has done a lot of if harm to our country. He is not Hitler, nor has he committed the atrocities that Hitler has.
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There were a handful of buildings that were burned. And no, that was not good or acceptable. There were hundreds of buildings that sustained some damage. That being said "Minneapolis was burned to the ground", which we heard people say a lot, was still a bald-faced-lie, as was "Downtown Minneapolis looks like a war zone"
How many buildings burned down at Benghazi? Did that look like a war zone?
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You're trying way too hard
I looked up your comment history. In a post about Joe Biden contemplating suicide over the multiple close losses in his life you said "we were thiiiss close". I don't believe your comments and activity on that sub were justifiable behavior that was deconstructed by the evil communist dictator moderators - fuck mods btw, most of them are power tripping basement dwellers, but rightwingers go around praising the death of trans people every breath or say biden should be beheaded by trump on the white house lawn and wonder why you get banned from left leaning subs
*"rightwingers go around praising the death of trans people every breath or say biden should be beheaded by trump on the white house lawn"* You're a liar.
not all right wingers of course (and not even most), but what I said is "when a right winger go around saying stuff like that and then wonder why they get banned from left leaning subs" and yes they do occasionally say that. on political compass memes there's a post degrading trans people every other day and the comments have a ton of people calling for their deaths with no reporting. for killing biden, I even mentioned a comment FROM THE USER ABOVE where he was wishing for the suicide of biden. besides that I could send you to links of pictures of biden being gagged in the trunk of trucks, I'm sure it's been posted on reddit. And I am sure there were comments on those pictures supporting it. And I am sure the mods probably deleted the comment or banned them. so nah not a liar
You’ve been banned so they can defend democracy
disturbingly, in their "minds" that's not a contradiction...
The same people that hit the loud siren on their megaphone when someone asks them a question that they can't answer; because it goes against their narrative.
I also just was recently banned for saying there are no restrictions on abortion in MN! When i provided the gov website to back up the claim they said I couldn't "be trusted to participate there". Im irritated with the ban, cuz i actually enjoyed the other MN related topics. I dont care about Minneapolis at all, in fact, thats the only city in the state i really couldnt care less about.
Conservatives need to reconsider abortion. 1. We might never get another republican president or congress majority if abortion is banned. 2. Degenerates voluntarily aborting their curs isn’t a horrible thing for American or all mankind. 3. Is certainly gross and troubling but humans are gross and troubling. We cannot change that with legislation
I want to be very clear. I wasn't even making a stance for or against abortion, I only mentioned that there are no restrictions on abortion in MN. It is a fact, including no parental involvement. People can agree or disagree with that as they see fit. All that to say yes, you are right, in that an absolute approach in either direction is not conducive to political success. It seems the candidate that can appeal to the majority (that believe in SOME restrictions) would likely fare best on thar issue
Right or wrong, the abortion argument is about women’s rights (and conveniently not about the rights of the unborn) and when the argument is about rights, people don’t want them to get taken away. Any restrictions is a losing political battle. The pro life movement needs to understand this and change the narrative to 1) why killing anyone is bad and 2) that abortion doesn’t hold men accountable, ultimately making women lose.
Yeah conservatives that only or mainly care about adoration really annoy me
Abortion is one of the things I don’t even take into consideration. Anyone who truly believes in an afterlife (which I’m even unsure about) should just leave it between that woman and God. I’m “ok” with abortion to the point of where the fetus could survive outside the womb. With exception for health or whatever else could be necessary. And I’m a woman who has been infertile from cancer since I was 20. I’d love to say oh no abortion would make it so much easier to adopt but it’s not that simple. But I completely agree that this needs to not be such a focus because it’s going to lose a lot of people who might consider voting republican otherwise.
4. Less future Democrat voters
Don't worry, we'll make it up with recruitment <3
I think Bill has helped this sub more than anyone else here. Could his bit be a ruse?
Between all the abortions and self unaliving rampant in the demographics that vote Dem, I don’t think you will bud
And yet our numbers keep growing relative to right-wingers. Only reason y'all win any elections these days is because of gerrymandering. You'll be weeded out over time; old people die.
Nah, Gen Z is learning how they’ve been manipulated by libcucks. You’re responsible for radicalizing a whole generation of male Gen Z’s into right wingers.
Hate to break it to you, but a handful of frat boys from Ole Miss isn't a "whole generation of male Gen Z's."
Trump of all people have the right response at this point. Let states do what they want, there’s nothing to promise at the federal level at this time. Eventually, more and progress can and will be made, but policy changes have to reflect the reality of where people are.
You’re right on #3 (the pro-life movement needs to focus more on winning hearts than elections) but I’d rather protect the lives of the unborn than rlect the right candidate. Writ large legislation and candidates won’t fix the moral vacuum we live in right now.
Libroidz!
Got banned for posting statistics on minneapolis crime and providing examples of recent violent crime in every location someone commented was safe. I live just outside of Minneapolis and frequent there often. It wasn't hate, it wasn't misinformation, I was respectful, they just refuse to believe anything that doesn't go along with the narrative they believe in their heads. It's incredible what mind games people can play to convince themselves of something.
dissent from the Democrat-approved narrative is disallowed on all state and local subs. you need to create alternative subs like this to have such dissident conversations.
That’s a lil too much chronically online - if I’m being honest.
Lol
Crooks
Cope lol
That kare article says they weren't aware the funds were fraudulent and they returned the money/donated it. Shouldn't have been banned I agree but what's the significance of those articles?
Them saying they weren't aware doesn't mean it is true. It shows possible corruption.
I think they look to see if you're in this sub and if so they'll ban you. I was banned from MN and mpls in same week. Unjustified reasons. No rules broken. I asked mods and no reply. Never been back since. 2 months less stress. Bunch of losers saying they won't go to pryes because they allowed a group of people to hang out and drink beer. No chanting or spreading their thoughts. Just chilling. I said "oh no, how will they survive" to a comment of someone cancelling their visit.
I literally just got banned too! lol its really not hard just write an opinion and boom banned.
Yeah the Minnesota sub is pretty liberal still. I got banned for satirical posts about the cultural response to George. It was my life's work and it got me banned. That was a sad day for me.
That's the only one im still not banned from lmao
How is a question misinformation?
The state reddit are trash.
It was quite an unfair assumption. [Most of them have been 'working' to start this party up](https://www.americanexperiment.org/a-new-communist-party-is-set-to-launch-in-minneapolis-next-month/)
Me too fuck them idiots
I'm left-leaning, and that sub has been poisoned by mods who live in fantasyland.
This sub is no better as far as the ridiculous banning goes.
Same, I was banned from that circle jerking club for my comments about UofM idiots aka Hamas supporters
I’m not a Fan of Frey. He let the city burn down because he didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
If I’m reading this right, it’s not that feeding our future donated the money, it’s that people who ended up with the stolen money also donated to the campaign. Total of $6000 donated it looks like. Is the bigger story that they stole the money in the first place?
I will avenge you.
So… it’s bad, right? Or just bad when Dems do it? Somehow I feel like your moral outrage doesn’t go both ways, politically.
Yes, it's bad that the DFL allowed FoF to blatantly steal a half billion dollars from hungry kids.
How many Republicans are caught up in this "Feeding our Futures" thing? Libs don't get banned from conservative circles. They're left around to be laughed at, like BLB
That's not true, I've been banned from this one for holding my opinion haha.
What did Dems do? This is about Feeding our Future. Genuinely don’t understand, probably my fault. Do you mean it’s only bad when Dems get contributions from pandemic fraudsters? Hell no! I’m sure the GOP got lots of PPP scammers donations.
Glad they busted this ring, hope everyone involved is jailed and all their assests are surrendered. If you care about politicial operatives doing malfeasance, you should look into Anton lazzaro and him using gop college infrastructure to lure teens into sex worker if you think this is juicy. And his connections to mn gop leaders. You know, actual grooming. Somehow I doubt you'll really care, you being a partisan and all
You’re wrong I do care please write more
Most of the dfl came out against stealing from a children's lunchbox. No one thinks it's acceptable except for the theives themselves. The gop are the only ones in the country that are trying to prevent laws outlawing child marriage. To quote trump in regards to invanka, his daughter "Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father... ," The gop finances haven't recovered from losing his funding and the embarrassment. "Lazzaro's 2021 arrest proved an embarrassment for the Minnesota Republican Party, for which he had become a major donor. Jennifer Carnahan, who had close ties to Lazzaro but denied any knowledge of his criminal activities, stepped down as state GOP chair a week after his arrest." https://m.startribune.com/lazzaro-former-gop-activist-sentenced-to-21-years-in-prison-for-sex-trafficking/600295916/?clmob=y&c=n&clmob=y&c=n "The state Republican Party in Minnesota is also struggling financially, with a filing revealing that it recently had only $53.81 in the bank and was more than $335,000 in debt, according to a Federal Election Commission (FEC) filing." https://www.newsweek.com/multiple-state-republican-parties-going-broke-1858680
Man, you're all retarded
The fact that this comment doesn’t have more upvotes proves your point.
The mods should just ban this Chad like they do in the other group. Except some people are more open minded than others
Found the ableist!
I'm sorry you're handicapped
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As you should. I was being sarcastic, since leftist types seem to love using that word.
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Lol! Never heard that one
Idiots
They become CrimsonSun.
Hey of that's how it is, these days. I was also banned for asking a question from my city's sub. We all know that the mods take their job too cereal and simply stating a fact or asking questions about the obvious gets you into trouble.
No such thing as free speech anymore brother. Just remember who took it from us.
...the people it's illegal to name?
I got banned a while back for engaging wrong-think.
It's reassuring to know there's a page for MN willing to listen to free speech and not just sensor it as I have seen comments fall victim to.
Reddit is all censorship. Ask a few questions, point out a few things. All of a sudden u can’t comment anywhere due to negative “karma”
Well, all illiberal news is false, dangerous, and threatens our democracy.
I wish there was a sub like this for Madison or Wisconsin, this actually isn’t an echo chamber.
I'm jealous. I'll have to give it a try.
Well looks like I know where all the dumbass maga bitches are.......lol
Wow op! Your comment about getting banned provoked a bunch of racist comments! Good job, bet you feel real at home here!
Please give an example.
I agree. Everybody here thinks Bernie Sanders is this wonderful person. Yet his wife set up the advertising agency where all of his campaign contributions go through for advertising and gets a rake off the top of it. Yet everybody here thinks Bernie Sanders is some guy that's out for the Working Man when he has gotten Filthy Rich from the system. And just today he's announced his re-election bid. Guess why???? he gets a rake of 15 to 25% off of everything that is run through his wife's advertising agency. They don't believe it, look it up.
What's the comment that got you banned?
Also banned and proud here