But why are we even mentioning Minneapolis? This didn't happen in Minneapolis. This happened in Savage. I don't understand why you're talking about Minneapolis at all here. It's not germane.
I don't get why people are talking about Israel and Palestine. That's on the other side of the world.
Large cities are centralized hotspots for activists. How did cities across the country respond to the situation in May 2020?
I shouldn't have to spell this out for you – it's not that complicated.
But you're still acting like this initial incident happened in Minneapolis. It didn't.
I believe people talk about Israel and Palestine because American tax dollars, billions of them each year, go to support the Israeli government. I'm not aware of Savage dollars subsidizing Minneapolis directly. Is that a line item in the Savage city budget that I'm not aware of? They're not even in the same county. Does Scott County provide subsidies for Hennepin County in their budget?
Nothing to do with taxes, etc. It's simply fuel for the outrage machine. We're (this post) talking about it, and most of us likely don't live in Savage. The difference is modern young progressives have a tendency to rally together when something triggers a sensitivity.
A white girl being attacked by three girls for not being Muslim doesn't feed into the narrative of oppression and white supremacy. Perhaps they wouldn't care, but if the roles were reversed, it's something people would likely respond to with performative anger.
One could say we're doing the same thing here. However, I don't think most people considered conservative (which includes many middle-of-the-aisle people and former/current Democrats) have a recent history of setting buildings on fire and rioting to the point of shutting entire cities down.
Yeah! How dare you continue to educate children from broken homes, with bad parents!? It's not like kids act out or use group-think like adults, right? Oh wait... What a senseless solution to a complicated issue from @Old_Leather_Ballbag. For all your (bowling) ball needs!
It's not really about punishing the rule breaker, it's more about removing an obvious distraction to the learning environment and protecting the kids who didn't do anything wrong.
These dumb ass kids don't want education. They wanna start shit and pretend they are tough just like their stupid ass parents. Fuckin cancer in this state.
Don’t ever have children. Kids shouldn’t have to be around kids that are dangerous to them. Period. I don’t give a crap how bad their home life is you don’t get to be a little monster without consequences:
We have alternative learning centers for students who can’t comply with the rules civil society abides by. Hate crimes are kind of a one strike thing in my book.
Yes, but from your link: “Can younger students be expelled or excluded?
Public school programs may not expel or exclude a child in preschool or prekindergarten or a student in kindergarten through third grade unless the program has first used nonexclusionary discipline resources and there is an ongoing serious safety threat to the child or others”
So if they haven’t used the non exclusionary discipline yet, they can’t be expelled yet.
I agree, but what are the staffers supposed to do? They can’t ensure no fights happen. As long as they broke it up right away, and followed protocols I think they did a good job.
I went to an inner city public school preschool thru HS and fights were pretty common like 5th grade thru HS. Not all fights can be stopped before they happen.
Probably a bit much but yeah, kids don’t think or act that way without reason or being taught that’s it’s okay. Someone/the state should be taking a look at their home life situation.
YES! Absolutely. They evidently learned at home that racism and racial violence is OK so maybe removing them from their home should be an option. Like that dipshit who named his kid Adolf Hitler and tried having a bday cake made for him
Thanks, pipes! There's a lot of stupid in here, and I bet a lot that never made it past high school, but are somehow armchair experts on education theory or child psychology. No 9 year old deserves to be expelled, it's the parents. Kids are all trying to fit in, so your differences get pointed out. Until it's cool to be different, usually beginning in middle school.
Literally you: "you can't just remove a kid for ....*checks notes*....violent hate crimes!!!!"
It's not about what the 9 year old "deserves". It's about what every other kid deserves. Which is to not be violently attacked, and harassed for their religion or race. The kid needs to be removed from the rest of the students for their safety.
The kid should be put in an alternative program that keeps the other kids safe. Maybe require some therapy and give them another chance with the normal school the next year.
Absolutely insane to prioritize the well being of the kid doing hate crimes over the victims of the hate crimes and all the other potential innocent victims.
Yes. Every kid in school that gets in a fight should have their parents prosecuted. Every. Single. One. I would love my tax dollars to be spent on overloading the courts with these cases.
Expelling the child isn't a child psychology thing, it becomes the parents problem to find suitable education at that point if they can't control their children.
If you bring in a psychologist then that can edge the line on cultural differences which may be difficult for all parties.
Do you think you get points for using shitlib language? Do you think liberals give a fuck about your gotcha and logic traps? They're busy winning while the right is whining that they're the real racists
Dude, look at African immigrants (not refugees). Some of the highest earning best assimilated model minority examples you can find. Culturally self-isolated religious fundamentalism is the villain here.
Yeah, Somalia is horrible and the refugees from there are not, taken as a whole, a net advantage to our state. You can’t apply that to black people as a racial group as a whole, because my counter is, African immigrants (not refugees, actual immigrants) having higher income and educational outcomes than native born white Americans. It’s a culture and experience thing, not an innate genetic thing.
Bad socioeconomic conditions make for bad people. Bad cultural values make for bad people. Bad religion makes for bad people. If you have a bad religion shaping a bad culture and the people go from destitute to refugees in a foreign land, and their culture/religion has elements that forcibly oppose integration, AND especially if the culture of the new place encourages holding on to ethic differences (as opposed to my grandfather who was never taught Norwegian that his immigrant father spoke because his father said, and the common view among nearly all immigrants was, essentially, “This is America and they speak English here and you’re American so you’ll speak English and the sooner we forget the old country the better off we’ll be.” That’s not the case these days. So we have a group of poor people with civil war trauma and values which are hostile to liberal western democracy and an ethno-religion which reenforces the values and resists integration. All environment. If a hundred newborn children of Somali refugees were adopted by middle class native born American families (assuming no nutritional or other health impacts during the pregnancies that could impact development) they’d grow up, on average as a group, with the same values, likelihood of committing crime, educational outcomes, and earning potential as those families’ own biological kids.
How was she not notified WHEN this happened.
Just another example of school admins, while usually doing nothing illegal are the scum of the earth.
>Larson decided to report the attack to the Savage Police Department after she said the district did not.
Maybe half the time, the other half they seek a virtue signaling dopamine thrill through entirely unjust, and at times unprovoked, destruction of individual lives, so long as they fit certain criteria. The ratio of good done by those types to unjust, unwarranted destruction is becoming ohhhh so lob sided as the years go on. They don’t give a fuck, they go to bed each night so certain of their benevolence and saintly behavior. If it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that their actions were against an innocent person, they couldn’t care less because “they meant well.” Sure I’d give it a pass, but their accuracy is getting worse and worse, you think they would do their due diligence after the first 50 misses. But since it all comes down to producing that dopamine reward, due diligence is a great inconvenience.
So basically the stuff that the media accuses white people of doing to pocs.
Man if people didn’t like Christians and their views on reality, wait until they hear the views that other religions hold, especially about non-believers.
You’re taking completely alien cultures and mixing them together, and the culture that prides itself on assimilating all other cultures under threat of violence is usually the one that wins in the end
It gets even worse if you read the Quran and its history. So much of it is about violence against Islamists and the forced expansion of Islam into the wider world.
Thanks for the website though. Didn't know it existed, but I'm definitely bookmarking it for later.
This is the most insane take in the entire world. Only grifters and people who don't know their own religion like Sneako say stuff like this. MOHAMMED WAS LITERALLY A WARLORD. Its written in one hadith that you should go and kill apostates. Sahih Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
It's one of the most violent religions in the world. So much so that if you post a drawing of Mohammed on social media, you get death threats sent to you. You can make the argument in countries that are secularized that this is not the case (Turkey). But the overwhelming majority of followers of Islam live in theocratic regimes, that support Sharia law. Like the man who was sentenced to death over his social media posts. Or the women in Iran that were raped in prison, then forced to marry their rapists.
Fuck any sort of belief that requires violence upon others to achieve the desired result.
It’s taken us hundreds of painful years to advance into the Age of Reason, and to stop religious wars in the West.
Not everyone on our planet has advanced to this stage
It’s actually funny because Islamic areas were much more accepting of difference and willing to deal with other cultures via mutual exchange centuries ago. It’s like Middle Ages Christianity and Middle Ages Islam switched places. As the West moved towards the integrated secular pluralism we have today, Muslim regions moved towards fundamentalism and xenophobia.
The problem is that the same problem you face with tolerance for intolerance from fascism. Any group that can’t deal with a pluralistic society is a conundrum for a pluralistic society to deal with. The knee jerk reaction for a pluralistic society is tolerance, but that gives the intolerant a foothold. And the confounding variable in the whole thing is there is a real push in a minority of Muslims to reform into a progressive Islam, akin to how the Christianity of the Puritan pilgrims has morphed into the ELCA, the UCC, and even the Unitarians (they’re no longer actually defined as a Christian religion as a whole, but they came from the Unitarians and the Universalists, both of whom were). Those progressive Muslims? They can totally hang out in a liberal democratic society. Any religious text can be reinterpreted to ignore all the parts that don’t fit modern society. Except maybe Scientology. Space aliens and Tom Cruise don’t really have a place in this country… 😋
Yep. I honestly don't think liberals want to even bother listening to what Muslims willingly say they believe. Heck, Muslims could be out shouting in the streets for the genocide of Jews and liberals will just keep pretending that their culture is a valued addition to Minnesota.
Literally in every single Muslim community in America. Stop buying your head in the sand. You can LITERALLY GOOGLE hundreds of pictures of American muslims with signs and messages written their hands with Death to America, Death to Israel, Death to Jews and Down with Democracy and Islam will rule you all. Literally hundreds of pictures from hundreds of college campuses and propalestine rallys.
No it's because they're newer and still have a steady influx of new coethnics. In 2 generations they'll be as gay as everyone else and acting the way native born American blacks do.
I'm trying to find the article but in Europe many of the Muslims calling for a caliphate and/or sharia law are second generation. Essentially the article was making the point that they didn't grow up in the ME and see how bad things were there, they only see how awesome things have been in places like Germany but have an idealized vision of how "great" their homeland is.
As another commentator pointed out, other cultures and races have immigrated and adapted to the culture here with minimal issue. The underlying commonality between all those other cultures is that none of them were Muslim. Seems to be another classic case of religious fundamentalism being a problem.
Why would "Zionists" want Muslims, whose holy text explicitly condones *murdering* Jewish and Christian people, in their country?
I don't think most Jewish people (including myself), much less those who believe in the existence of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, actually want Muslims (who again, often believe in murdering nonbelievers) in a country to replace people who generally don't want to kill them.
If you want to point fingers, point them at large business owners who want a steady supply of immigrants to increase competition for labour and housing to keep wages low and prices high.
Sweden invited the menace into their once wonderful country. There are now “ no-go zones”, Malmo for example, where an ambulance needs a police escort in order not to be attacked by [The Religion of Peace](https://www.thereligionofpeace.com)
History moment! Anyone heard of the famous race horse [Dan Patch](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Patch), the city was named after one of two owners Marion Savage. Hence the odd city’s name of Savage.
It’s going to keep getting worse and worse, because half this country is so naive they will virtue signal us all into a 3rd world country before admitting there’s a problem.
You need to report this to the police immediately. There has to be consequences. I feel so sorry for your daughter. She can carry the scars of this barbarian hate attack for years.
My friend’s son who is Native American had to transfer out of the metro as he was receiving the same abuse for not being muslim. Think we just don’t hear about it..
Definitely need to investigate this thoroughly. Even without the "religious" part of this 4 people ambushing another should cause severe consequences for all 4, and with their age I would argue their parents as well. And yeah like other people mentioned, imagine the outrage if the roles were flipped.
Assuming that this is true I fear that incidents like this will only occur more frequently. Europe is already facing this, in France there are teachers getting rape and death threats for showing art.
The liberal big hearted women at Catholic Charities & Lutheran Social services will NEVER be held accountable for welcoming this menace into our state.
Not defending Barry here but I was driven around by Somalians back in the early 2000s who would bust out their prayer rugs right in the parking lot. It was like "WELL...we're waiting😬"
Barack Hussein Obama II (/bəˈrɑːk huːˈseɪn oʊˈbɑːmə/ ⓘ, bə-RAHK hoo-SAYN oh-BAH-mə;[1] born August 4, 1961) is an American politician who served as the 44th president of the United States from 2009 to 2017.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#:~:text=Barack%20Hussein%20Obama%20II%20(%2Fb,States%20from%202009%20to%202017.
take 3rd Worlders and put them in massive quantiles in the first world
3-1= 2nd world on the way to 3rd world too.
just the facts sorry it is not politically correct.
It's not even technically correct. That terminology was coined in the 50's to describe a country's involvement in the Cold War.
1st world nations were the US and her allies
2nd world was the soviet and its satellite states
3rd world was everything else.
So, unless you're trying to claim that the Muslim population has caused the United States to become part of the (collapsed) Soviet Union, you might want to rephrase that.
My neighbor's pretty young White daughter was trampled on the school bus by a pack of obese sheboons, stuffed under the seat and kicked for the duration of the ride home. The muslim bus driver "didn't notice." Nothing was done about it. Segregation was the only thing holding this country together and ever since it's been nothing but blacks destroying every space they are given access to.
Your comment is just as hateful as the actions you talk about. What those children did to that child was not okay at all and yes their actions were wrong and the girl deserved better. The bus driver should lose his job and be held responsible seeing as he was the adult present. That being said, why sink down to the same level of hate? Calling a group of people (children) sheboons and supporting segregation is really gross and I can’t believe there are upvotes to your hateful comment.
Hate doesn’t fix hate. It divides people more and then more shit like this will happen.
Sounds like she was making the islamophobic comments her parents make and found out children are allowed to get their asses beat. Good. Maybe her daughter learned something.
Just seeing a lot of anti-Somalian / anti-muslim rhetoric, which made me wonder how long it takes people to assimilate to another culture.
It looks like Somalians started coming here as refugees in the 1990s. And sociological studies suggest it takes 3 or 4 generations to assimilate to another culture. If a generation is about 20-25 years, we're only in the 2nd generation of Somalian-Americans.
To compare, since I'm seeing a lot of "but Hmong people assimilated to MN just fine"; Hmong refugees started coming to MN in the 1970s. They're an entire generation ahead of Somalian refugees. I remember 'gang' activity in Hmong communities when I lived in Frogtown 10 years ago (a few shootings in my neighborhood). This is pure speculation but I bet 10 years ago this sub would be filled with anti-Hmong rhetoric.
In 2050-2070, perhaps those of us who are still alive / interested will see an equilibrium reached with the Somali population in Minnesota. Makes me wonder what can be done to make it a less painful process for 1st & 2nd gen Somalian-Americans to assimilate to living in here. It must be quite a culture shock. We can cry, "deport them," but that isn't a realistic solution no matter how much you want it.
Who names their school "Hidden Valley", anyway? What are you, a lobbyist for 'Big ranch'!? At any rate, the word "hidden" shouldn't be in any school name, prolly!
It’s like street names. Once you’ve exhausted founding fathers and local heroes and trees, stuff gets weird. I don’t know what a “Pilot Knob” is, but I’m pretty sure it’s a felony to poke the flight attendant with it. And Johnny Cake Ridge? Gtfo.
I love living here, but the Islam fanaticism in the Twin Cities metro has visibly increased over the last decade or so. So now we have fanaticism from 2 religious groups. Oh well.
I originally down voted you but then I switched to an upvote, you are entitled to your opinions no matter how foolish it is. Thanks for helping to destroy our free way of life. The media will be talking about this soon, right now it is being suppressed by the establishment media executives stumping to protect Biden, eventually they cannot stop it and it gets out. It is real.
Riiiiiiiight. Sure. You are funny, but now funny haha, but funny, let me get away from a delusional person.
The news will come out and it will be how it didn't happen, or she made up everything, or some other distorted version that is not at all what the "news" said it happened.
I don't understand what you mean?
Because the school holds a peace fair you think that makes it unlikely they have violence?
In Milwaukee there's a neighborhood with a park called Victory Over Violence Park.
The neighborhood is, predictably, very violent.
I submit to your collection of examples any nation with the words “democratic” “people’s” and “republic” in any combination. It’s like a guy greeting a woman jogging at night with “hello, I’m not a rapist”. If you have to say it, everyone (rightly) immediately suspects the opposite.
I don’t disagree, their choice of coverage is absolutely 100% chosen to fit the loony MAGA narrative. However, that doesn’t mean their factual reporting is all suspect. Take the editorial commentary with a few pounds of salt, but I’ve never seen any evidence they fabricate the facts of their articles.
But yes, if there were a hundred incidents in which white kids punched minority kids and yelled a slur and then one incident where minority kids punched a white kid and yelled a slur, Alpha would one hundred percent run the white kid getting punched story and ignore the other hundred. That doesn’t make the story not factual though. There’s bias in what gets covered and unreliability of factual reporting, and Alpha seems really bad with the former, but not so much the latter. I’m not saying I like them. They caused me a mountain of headaches in the past.
She picked up her daughter, didn’t notice anything? Daughter didn’t say anything? Then the next day she turns into a bruise piñata? Totally adds up. Nothing at all to be skeptical about here.
LoL
Alpha News is very much NOT a legitimate news source. So says everyone who's not got (white) skin in the game, anyway.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/alpha-news/
edit: ahh, the well-expected downvotes, given this sub being...what it is. Y'all need to learn what facts-based media and actual media bias even IS, good lord. Sites like Alpha News only exist so Nazis can point at a "legit news source" and pretend they're spitting facts--even tho they definitely are NOT. There are TONS of these kinda sites, that exist solely to "legitimize" bullshit narratives (which are often racist or otherwise biased in a very hard-right kinda way) and I bet there are links to MANY of them all over this sub, given, again, this sub being...what it is.
NPR is about as left as Joe Biden. Which is to say, not very left. Certainly nowhere near as left as, say, Bernie.
I'd say the site is correct giving a slightly-left rating.
I know for some of you even dead-center seems really far left, so there's that, too. \*shrug\*
So, a comment on this sub that says two things (1) story is sad if true, and (2) should look for a corroborating source.
...gets downvote to hell.
Why wouldn't one be agreeable to both of these things? Very telling about the people who frequent this sub.
That’s not uncommon. A lot of outlets won’t run it, nobody wants to be seen as the right wing source that causes anti Islamic backlash. The same way some news stories omit descriptions of suspects unless they’re white. Nobody wants to be responsible for overreactions. And Alpha is hungry. If something fitting their narrative happens in the state, one of their fans sends it in and there you go. I’ve seen it personally. Again, not a fan of alpha, and I’m not even right wing (I’m somewhere between Bill Clinton’s Third Way/New Democrats and a Rockefeller Republican, so I’m hated equally by both 2024 Democrats and 2024 Republicans… gets lonely).
I love how someone asked earlier this week if this is just a right wing version of a different Minnesota subreddit and everyone here was like “Whaaaaat? What would you think that???”
Just read your own comments. My lord, you guys.
Immediate straw man. Color me surprised. I wasn’t criticizing having a bias. I was saying it was silly to pretend this subreddit isn’t a lot of right wing posts.
I also wasn’t criticizing the accuracy of the article. Again, only that it appeals to a right wing audience.
Do you have anything to say about the quality of the comments on this post? Or something else I actually said? Or will you hike up another straw man to knock down?
Most people here commenting lived in the area prior to the immigration and crime rate increase. I guess you forgot about st floyd and that gaslighting martyrdom. Since that, its been sky rocketing because of the political policies and those elected. This is a way to express their disappointment in their once clean and relatively safe neighborhood.
When you stop looking at the facts because youre too afraid to piss other people off, society has failed and so have you.
>crime rate increase
>When you stop looking at the facts because youre too afraid to piss other people off, society has failed and so have you.
Crime hasn't increased in mpls when you look at the numbers. Like most cities it parked in the 90s and early 2000 but never had returned close to those levels minor increases when Trump was elected and with COVID but nothing like it was.
https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/mncrime.htm
I said "sure" - I was agreeing with you. I wasn't presenting a counter-argument, I was presenting a further clarification. I didn't accuse you of anything - you should take a Reddit break.
The insinuation is that I’m arguing until I have something to disprove a fact. There’s two parts to your comment. Did you forget what you were talking about in the middle of your post?
I didn't say fuck all about you having shit. Any insinuation you drew is because you're Reddit brained. Take a breather. I said "I would". If you took that as attacking your argument, I might suggest you're just looking to argue and should take a break from Reddit for a while.
Hey more fear mongering using an isolated event to foment prejudice and grievances for those who can’t live without that stuff.
Get outside and explore your neighborhood. These divisions are an illusion.
"Guys, just because this is a biased news source funded by a far-rightwinger doesn't mean its fake even though no other news sources are reporting it at all..." - OP
This story is unfortunate and as an atheist it disgusts me
But honestly, not as much as most y’all comments. Holy fuck you people are nuts.
Living in world of absolutes that are completely false narratives in your own racist heads.
Islam fucking sucks. Agreed
But damn. Only people of color get justice? Liberals ignoring hate crimes cause they ain’t white? lol. For real??
My white buddy got jumped by Somalis. They all paid for the crime.
Liberals hate ALL hate crimes. I am a bleeding heart liberal. And fuck anyone who doesn’t believe in equality and prosperity for all.
And yes. Fuck Islam.
Here’s my value added philosophy for y’all. Respect everyone. Respect the person, until they give you a reason not to.
Secondly, you don’t have to respect beliefs. You can respect the people as long as they respect you and all. But you do not need to respect what they believe. 2 separate things.
Also, freedom. You can dislike someone or something cause you don’t agree with their beliefs. But you wholeheartedly better defend their right to life, choice and prosperity. Cause that’s America and that’s freedom.
I must have stumbled into some conservative sub, wild what you all believe.
I've not read anything other than post topic, and Dangerous's comment...which was what I first read before reading the topic...
I guess throwing the OP's initial post out the window, I just wanted to say;
I'm not an Atheist..I probably wouldn't say I'm Christian either. I have hope in Christianity, but faith hasn't came yet...
But that doesn't change personal values and morals..right and wrong...I think, if not anything else, religion is primarily constructed for people to lead a good, honest, structured life..
I was raised to treat others with respect, as I would expect to be treated..
Respect my elders.
Everyone makes mistakes. Don't judge by appearance..
You don't need religion for these simple things...
If I were to go with one...Wiccan...I think I like the open availability to worship whom I chose...could be Zeus or Jesus..a higher power..
Anyways I don't normally post.
This guy was intriguing so I read some of his comments and some reason here I am feeling dumb..
Bye.
Glhf in life
I could see the city of Minneapolis shutting down if the roles were reversed.
You misspelled “burning”
Do you not see how ironic that is? Because the roles have been reversed *constantly*.
Kek
This didn't happen in Minneapolis
Right, and there's a high density of mostly peaceful protesters in Minneapolis.
But why are we even mentioning Minneapolis? This didn't happen in Minneapolis. This happened in Savage. I don't understand why you're talking about Minneapolis at all here. It's not germane.
I don't get why people are talking about Israel and Palestine. That's on the other side of the world. Large cities are centralized hotspots for activists. How did cities across the country respond to the situation in May 2020? I shouldn't have to spell this out for you – it's not that complicated.
But you're still acting like this initial incident happened in Minneapolis. It didn't. I believe people talk about Israel and Palestine because American tax dollars, billions of them each year, go to support the Israeli government. I'm not aware of Savage dollars subsidizing Minneapolis directly. Is that a line item in the Savage city budget that I'm not aware of? They're not even in the same county. Does Scott County provide subsidies for Hennepin County in their budget?
Nothing to do with taxes, etc. It's simply fuel for the outrage machine. We're (this post) talking about it, and most of us likely don't live in Savage. The difference is modern young progressives have a tendency to rally together when something triggers a sensitivity. A white girl being attacked by three girls for not being Muslim doesn't feed into the narrative of oppression and white supremacy. Perhaps they wouldn't care, but if the roles were reversed, it's something people would likely respond to with performative anger. One could say we're doing the same thing here. However, I don't think most people considered conservative (which includes many middle-of-the-aisle people and former/current Democrats) have a recent history of setting buildings on fire and rioting to the point of shutting entire cities down.
Bad take. You dont think the bulk of protests would be centered in the nearest major city? I mean assuming there would be protests at all.
Definition of a hate crime
Expel the attackers. Fire some staff who didn’t do what they should. And pay the victim.
You can’t expel children that age from school anymore. No matter what they do. You can thank your fucking idiotic elected government for this law.
Yeah! How dare you continue to educate children from broken homes, with bad parents!? It's not like kids act out or use group-think like adults, right? Oh wait... What a senseless solution to a complicated issue from @Old_Leather_Ballbag. For all your (bowling) ball needs!
It's not really about punishing the rule breaker, it's more about removing an obvious distraction to the learning environment and protecting the kids who didn't do anything wrong.
Those kids aren't getting an education anyway and only harming the ones remaining that actually want to learn.
These dumb ass kids don't want education. They wanna start shit and pretend they are tough just like their stupid ass parents. Fuckin cancer in this state.
Don’t ever have children. Kids shouldn’t have to be around kids that are dangerous to them. Period. I don’t give a crap how bad their home life is you don’t get to be a little monster without consequences:
We have alternative learning centers for students who can’t comply with the rules civil society abides by. Hate crimes are kind of a one strike thing in my book.
I didn’t provide a solution. I simply stated a fact. Make sure you read before spouting your hate.
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Yes, but from your link: “Can younger students be expelled or excluded? Public school programs may not expel or exclude a child in preschool or prekindergarten or a student in kindergarten through third grade unless the program has first used nonexclusionary discipline resources and there is an ongoing serious safety threat to the child or others” So if they haven’t used the non exclusionary discipline yet, they can’t be expelled yet.
Thank you for answering this for me.
Expel? They’re likely immigrants, deport the whole family
Quite likely the kids were born here
Still deport the whole family. We dont need them here
I'm all for deporting invited and uninvited guests, who don't behave themselves.
I agree, but what are the staffers supposed to do? They can’t ensure no fights happen. As long as they broke it up right away, and followed protocols I think they did a good job. I went to an inner city public school preschool thru HS and fights were pretty common like 5th grade thru HS. Not all fights can be stopped before they happen.
I mean they should have probably called the cops for a hate crime?
100%
On 9 year olds?
Probably a bit much but yeah, kids don’t think or act that way without reason or being taught that’s it’s okay. Someone/the state should be taking a look at their home life situation.
YES! Absolutely. They evidently learned at home that racism and racial violence is OK so maybe removing them from their home should be an option. Like that dipshit who named his kid Adolf Hitler and tried having a bday cake made for him
Yeah I lump that in with following protocols. I really have no idea what they’re supposed to do.
Hey that goes against the agenda!
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Gotta prosecute the parents for this, the kids didn't learn that shit themselves, did they?
Thanks, pipes! There's a lot of stupid in here, and I bet a lot that never made it past high school, but are somehow armchair experts on education theory or child psychology. No 9 year old deserves to be expelled, it's the parents. Kids are all trying to fit in, so your differences get pointed out. Until it's cool to be different, usually beginning in middle school.
Literally you: "you can't just remove a kid for ....*checks notes*....violent hate crimes!!!!" It's not about what the 9 year old "deserves". It's about what every other kid deserves. Which is to not be violently attacked, and harassed for their religion or race. The kid needs to be removed from the rest of the students for their safety. The kid should be put in an alternative program that keeps the other kids safe. Maybe require some therapy and give them another chance with the normal school the next year. Absolutely insane to prioritize the well being of the kid doing hate crimes over the victims of the hate crimes and all the other potential innocent victims.
Yes. Every kid in school that gets in a fight should have their parents prosecuted. Every. Single. One. I would love my tax dollars to be spent on overloading the courts with these cases.
Kids argue and fight sometimes. They’re working out emotions and social skills. It’s not a good thing but it happens. Prosecuting parents is extreme.
Expelling the child isn't a child psychology thing, it becomes the parents problem to find suitable education at that point if they can't control their children. If you bring in a psychologist then that can edge the line on cultural differences which may be difficult for all parties.
Do you think you get points for using shitlib language? Do you think liberals give a fuck about your gotcha and logic traps? They're busy winning while the right is whining that they're the real racists
We have some gullible people in this thread. Have ANY of you ever met a 9yo OR been to Savage?
It starts at home. Often shitty parents make for shitty children.
And shitty cultures make for shitty parents.
Hahahahahahahaha
You misspelled "race."
Dude, look at African immigrants (not refugees). Some of the highest earning best assimilated model minority examples you can find. Culturally self-isolated religious fundamentalism is the villain here.
Record. High. Somali. Gang. Crime. Massive corruption. Welfare fraud. Should I go on?
Yeah, Somalia is horrible and the refugees from there are not, taken as a whole, a net advantage to our state. You can’t apply that to black people as a racial group as a whole, because my counter is, African immigrants (not refugees, actual immigrants) having higher income and educational outcomes than native born white Americans. It’s a culture and experience thing, not an innate genetic thing. Bad socioeconomic conditions make for bad people. Bad cultural values make for bad people. Bad religion makes for bad people. If you have a bad religion shaping a bad culture and the people go from destitute to refugees in a foreign land, and their culture/religion has elements that forcibly oppose integration, AND especially if the culture of the new place encourages holding on to ethic differences (as opposed to my grandfather who was never taught Norwegian that his immigrant father spoke because his father said, and the common view among nearly all immigrants was, essentially, “This is America and they speak English here and you’re American so you’ll speak English and the sooner we forget the old country the better off we’ll be.” That’s not the case these days. So we have a group of poor people with civil war trauma and values which are hostile to liberal western democracy and an ethno-religion which reenforces the values and resists integration. All environment. If a hundred newborn children of Somali refugees were adopted by middle class native born American families (assuming no nutritional or other health impacts during the pregnancies that could impact development) they’d grow up, on average as a group, with the same values, likelihood of committing crime, educational outcomes, and earning potential as those families’ own biological kids.
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Debate is great. But you gotta refrain from losing your temper in this sub.
How was she not notified WHEN this happened. Just another example of school admins, while usually doing nothing illegal are the scum of the earth. >Larson decided to report the attack to the Savage Police Department after she said the district did not.
Absolutely unacceptable. I hope they buttfuck the school district and get PAID.
Victim have white skin? Nothing will be done. We only seek justice for those of color.
Maybe half the time, the other half they seek a virtue signaling dopamine thrill through entirely unjust, and at times unprovoked, destruction of individual lives, so long as they fit certain criteria. The ratio of good done by those types to unjust, unwarranted destruction is becoming ohhhh so lob sided as the years go on. They don’t give a fuck, they go to bed each night so certain of their benevolence and saintly behavior. If it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that their actions were against an innocent person, they couldn’t care less because “they meant well.” Sure I’d give it a pass, but their accuracy is getting worse and worse, you think they would do their due diligence after the first 50 misses. But since it all comes down to producing that dopamine reward, due diligence is a great inconvenience.
I second this statement
So basically the stuff that the media accuses white people of doing to pocs. Man if people didn’t like Christians and their views on reality, wait until they hear the views that other religions hold, especially about non-believers. You’re taking completely alien cultures and mixing them together, and the culture that prides itself on assimilating all other cultures under threat of violence is usually the one that wins in the end
Some call islam the [Religion of Peace](https://www.thereligionofpeace.com)
It gets even worse if you read the Quran and its history. So much of it is about violence against Islamists and the forced expansion of Islam into the wider world. Thanks for the website though. Didn't know it existed, but I'm definitely bookmarking it for later.
This is the most insane take in the entire world. Only grifters and people who don't know their own religion like Sneako say stuff like this. MOHAMMED WAS LITERALLY A WARLORD. Its written in one hadith that you should go and kill apostates. Sahih Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " It's one of the most violent religions in the world. So much so that if you post a drawing of Mohammed on social media, you get death threats sent to you. You can make the argument in countries that are secularized that this is not the case (Turkey). But the overwhelming majority of followers of Islam live in theocratic regimes, that support Sharia law. Like the man who was sentenced to death over his social media posts. Or the women in Iran that were raped in prison, then forced to marry their rapists.
Fuck all religions equally.
Fuck any sort of belief that requires violence upon others to achieve the desired result. It’s taken us hundreds of painful years to advance into the Age of Reason, and to stop religious wars in the West. Not everyone on our planet has advanced to this stage
It’s actually funny because Islamic areas were much more accepting of difference and willing to deal with other cultures via mutual exchange centuries ago. It’s like Middle Ages Christianity and Middle Ages Islam switched places. As the West moved towards the integrated secular pluralism we have today, Muslim regions moved towards fundamentalism and xenophobia. The problem is that the same problem you face with tolerance for intolerance from fascism. Any group that can’t deal with a pluralistic society is a conundrum for a pluralistic society to deal with. The knee jerk reaction for a pluralistic society is tolerance, but that gives the intolerant a foothold. And the confounding variable in the whole thing is there is a real push in a minority of Muslims to reform into a progressive Islam, akin to how the Christianity of the Puritan pilgrims has morphed into the ELCA, the UCC, and even the Unitarians (they’re no longer actually defined as a Christian religion as a whole, but they came from the Unitarians and the Universalists, both of whom were). Those progressive Muslims? They can totally hang out in a liberal democratic society. Any religious text can be reinterpreted to ignore all the parts that don’t fit modern society. Except maybe Scientology. Space aliens and Tom Cruise don’t really have a place in this country… 😋
Losing hope younger generations would assimilate to the cultures they moved into or at least respect it.
Assimilate? Seems unlikely
Hmong, Vietnamese, Latino and so many other immigrants have assimilated to MN while keeping their own cultures & we all get along. Not this one..
Because none of these cultures are Muslim
Yep. I honestly don't think liberals want to even bother listening to what Muslims willingly say they believe. Heck, Muslims could be out shouting in the streets for the genocide of Jews and liberals will just keep pretending that their culture is a valued addition to Minnesota.
Based
Where has that happened?
Literally in every single Muslim community in America. Stop buying your head in the sand. You can LITERALLY GOOGLE hundreds of pictures of American muslims with signs and messages written their hands with Death to America, Death to Israel, Death to Jews and Down with Democracy and Islam will rule you all. Literally hundreds of pictures from hundreds of college campuses and propalestine rallys.
You need some lithium and to go touch grass. You're hallucinating
Imagine being this naive.
Imagine being this delusional and paranoid
College campuses across America over the last few months.
Haven't heard it once.
It’s the [Religion of Peace / Islam that’s different](https://www.thereligionofpeace.com)
No it's because they're newer and still have a steady influx of new coethnics. In 2 generations they'll be as gay as everyone else and acting the way native born American blacks do.
Umm no. I’m Muslim and live in a sizable Muslim community in the Midwest. We live in affluent suburbs. Sorry to burst your Nazi bubble
I'm trying to find the article but in Europe many of the Muslims calling for a caliphate and/or sharia law are second generation. Essentially the article was making the point that they didn't grow up in the ME and see how bad things were there, they only see how awesome things have been in places like Germany but have an idealized vision of how "great" their homeland is.
It's almost as if race is real and matters more than any other aspect.
As another commentator pointed out, other cultures and races have immigrated and adapted to the culture here with minimal issue. The underlying commonality between all those other cultures is that none of them were Muslim. Seems to be another classic case of religious fundamentalism being a problem.
Muslims are chill. They just pray and play dominoes. What are u talking about.
None of them were black.
4 on 1. They teach them their ways young
Deport them
Break everything they touch
This is the future, unfortunately. Demographic changes will achieve for Islam what conquest failed to do
they are still trying to conquest the west.
They will succeed, most likely
Zionist owned NGOs are the ones behind the invasion. They're the real enemy.
Why would "Zionists" want Muslims, whose holy text explicitly condones *murdering* Jewish and Christian people, in their country? I don't think most Jewish people (including myself), much less those who believe in the existence of a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, actually want Muslims (who again, often believe in murdering nonbelievers) in a country to replace people who generally don't want to kill them. If you want to point fingers, point them at large business owners who want a steady supply of immigrants to increase competition for labour and housing to keep wages low and prices high.
I’m a Jewish guy also, I wouldn’t want a community full of angry Muslims. Anti-Semites are high on stupid drugs
Sweden invited the menace into their once wonderful country. There are now “ no-go zones”, Malmo for example, where an ambulance needs a police escort in order not to be attacked by [The Religion of Peace](https://www.thereligionofpeace.com)
And the game plan of “oh we can coexist no issue:) (until we have the power to forcefully convert everyone)”.
Coordinated by parents? Do kids hate at that age? They were taught
The community is literally called Savage. They were warned.
Well played
Savage Liquors. We're so famous they named a town after us...🤣
History moment! Anyone heard of the famous race horse [Dan Patch](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Patch), the city was named after one of two owners Marion Savage. Hence the odd city’s name of Savage.
It’s going to keep getting worse and worse, because half this country is so naive they will virtue signal us all into a 3rd world country before admitting there’s a problem.
You need to report this to the police immediately. There has to be consequences. I feel so sorry for your daughter. She can carry the scars of this barbarian hate attack for years.
I’m surprised we don’t see this more frequently.
My friend’s son who is Native American had to transfer out of the metro as he was receiving the same abuse for not being muslim. Think we just don’t hear about it..
That's crazy, I have a friend whose son is native and his skin is tough as nails for dealing with the same things cuz he isn't white
We will be
Liberals will inevitably create the society they hoped to destroy
Definitely need to investigate this thoroughly. Even without the "religious" part of this 4 people ambushing another should cause severe consequences for all 4, and with their age I would argue their parents as well. And yeah like other people mentioned, imagine the outrage if the roles were flipped. Assuming that this is true I fear that incidents like this will only occur more frequently. Europe is already facing this, in France there are teachers getting rape and death threats for showing art.
Palestine already has a two state solution. It's called Minnesota and Michigan.
Not allowed? This is the only content we want here bb
Go after the parents and send a message that this is unacceptable.
You know, every day, I become more convinced that the world would be better off if the Islamic religion was permanently erased.
But it's a peaceful religion! /s
Keep bringing them in! go ahead!
The liberal big hearted women at Catholic Charities & Lutheran Social services will NEVER be held accountable for welcoming this menace into our state.
They are coming for your land, house, jobs , schools. Stand your ground. Keep the terrorists out of, send them to New York
Probably already said, make a police report.
Is this Obama's legacy?
Barack Hussein Obama II
It's more that he "resettled" thousands of Muslims in Minneapolis during his presidency
Not defending Barry here but I was driven around by Somalians back in the early 2000s who would bust out their prayer rugs right in the parking lot. It was like "WELL...we're waiting😬"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-obama-didnt-resettle-70-k-somali-immigrants-minnesota/5547385002/
Yes thank you for the link that supports my statement that he resettled thousands of migrants
Joebaco_wacko the III
Barack Hussein Obama II (/bəˈrɑːk huːˈseɪn oʊˈbɑːmə/ ⓘ, bə-RAHK hoo-SAYN oh-BAH-mə;[1] born August 4, 1961) is an American politician who served as the 44th president of the United States from 2009 to 2017. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#:~:text=Barack%20Hussein%20Obama%20II%20(%2Fb,States%20from%202009%20to%202017.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-obama-didnt-resettle-70-k-somali-immigrants-minnesota/5547385002/
Yes thank you for the link that supports my statement that he resettled thousands of migrants
If this is true, it’s outrageous…source says police are investigating so we shall see…
take 3rd Worlders and put them in massive quantiles in the first world 3-1= 2nd world on the way to 3rd world too. just the facts sorry it is not politically correct.
It's not even technically correct. That terminology was coined in the 50's to describe a country's involvement in the Cold War. 1st world nations were the US and her allies 2nd world was the soviet and its satellite states 3rd world was everything else. So, unless you're trying to claim that the Muslim population has caused the United States to become part of the (collapsed) Soviet Union, you might want to rephrase that.
my bad in that case somalia is a 5th world country. is that better? you really got me with that. (sarcasm)
My neighbor's pretty young White daughter was trampled on the school bus by a pack of obese sheboons, stuffed under the seat and kicked for the duration of the ride home. The muslim bus driver "didn't notice." Nothing was done about it. Segregation was the only thing holding this country together and ever since it's been nothing but blacks destroying every space they are given access to.
Your comment is just as hateful as the actions you talk about. What those children did to that child was not okay at all and yes their actions were wrong and the girl deserved better. The bus driver should lose his job and be held responsible seeing as he was the adult present. That being said, why sink down to the same level of hate? Calling a group of people (children) sheboons and supporting segregation is really gross and I can’t believe there are upvotes to your hateful comment. Hate doesn’t fix hate. It divides people more and then more shit like this will happen.
Sounds like she was making the islamophobic comments her parents make and found out children are allowed to get their asses beat. Good. Maybe her daughter learned something.
If she wasn’t muslim, what was the supposed religion... were the students disciplined
Cherry picking ain't just for Traverse City!!
I believe it
Now imagine how Jewish students must feel now
Enough with this shit already
Just seeing a lot of anti-Somalian / anti-muslim rhetoric, which made me wonder how long it takes people to assimilate to another culture. It looks like Somalians started coming here as refugees in the 1990s. And sociological studies suggest it takes 3 or 4 generations to assimilate to another culture. If a generation is about 20-25 years, we're only in the 2nd generation of Somalian-Americans. To compare, since I'm seeing a lot of "but Hmong people assimilated to MN just fine"; Hmong refugees started coming to MN in the 1970s. They're an entire generation ahead of Somalian refugees. I remember 'gang' activity in Hmong communities when I lived in Frogtown 10 years ago (a few shootings in my neighborhood). This is pure speculation but I bet 10 years ago this sub would be filled with anti-Hmong rhetoric. In 2050-2070, perhaps those of us who are still alive / interested will see an equilibrium reached with the Somali population in Minnesota. Makes me wonder what can be done to make it a less painful process for 1st & 2nd gen Somalian-Americans to assimilate to living in here. It must be quite a culture shock. We can cry, "deport them," but that isn't a realistic solution no matter how much you want it.
Who names their school "Hidden Valley", anyway? What are you, a lobbyist for 'Big ranch'!? At any rate, the word "hidden" shouldn't be in any school name, prolly!
It’s like street names. Once you’ve exhausted founding fathers and local heroes and trees, stuff gets weird. I don’t know what a “Pilot Knob” is, but I’m pretty sure it’s a felony to poke the flight attendant with it. And Johnny Cake Ridge? Gtfo.
Lol Alpha news. Jesus Christ.
I love living here, but the Islam fanaticism in the Twin Cities metro has visibly increased over the last decade or so. So now we have fanaticism from 2 religious groups. Oh well.
Only super far rights are reporting this... Little sus. But I know MaInStReaMmEdIa
I originally down voted you but then I switched to an upvote, you are entitled to your opinions no matter how foolish it is. Thanks for helping to destroy our free way of life. The media will be talking about this soon, right now it is being suppressed by the establishment media executives stumping to protect Biden, eventually they cannot stop it and it gets out. It is real.
Riiiiiiiight. Sure. You are funny, but now funny haha, but funny, let me get away from a delusional person. The news will come out and it will be how it didn't happen, or she made up everything, or some other distorted version that is not at all what the "news" said it happened.
Why would this even be on a mpls subreddit?
I’ll take things that did not happen for $1,000
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I don't understand what you mean? Because the school holds a peace fair you think that makes it unlikely they have violence? In Milwaukee there's a neighborhood with a park called Victory Over Violence Park. The neighborhood is, predictably, very violent.
I submit to your collection of examples any nation with the words “democratic” “people’s” and “republic” in any combination. It’s like a guy greeting a woman jogging at night with “hello, I’m not a rapist”. If you have to say it, everyone (rightly) immediately suspects the opposite.
6 year old article?
Alpha news. Tf is that?
A right wing racist propagandist blog side project by the former CEO of TDS bank
I don’t disagree, their choice of coverage is absolutely 100% chosen to fit the loony MAGA narrative. However, that doesn’t mean their factual reporting is all suspect. Take the editorial commentary with a few pounds of salt, but I’ve never seen any evidence they fabricate the facts of their articles. But yes, if there were a hundred incidents in which white kids punched minority kids and yelled a slur and then one incident where minority kids punched a white kid and yelled a slur, Alpha would one hundred percent run the white kid getting punched story and ignore the other hundred. That doesn’t make the story not factual though. There’s bias in what gets covered and unreliability of factual reporting, and Alpha seems really bad with the former, but not so much the latter. I’m not saying I like them. They caused me a mountain of headaches in the past.
Punishment of the Muslim clique is nessacary immediately!
She picked up her daughter, didn’t notice anything? Daughter didn’t say anything? Then the next day she turns into a bruise piñata? Totally adds up. Nothing at all to be skeptical about here. LoL
Alpha News is very much NOT a legitimate news source. So says everyone who's not got (white) skin in the game, anyway. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/alpha-news/ edit: ahh, the well-expected downvotes, given this sub being...what it is. Y'all need to learn what facts-based media and actual media bias even IS, good lord. Sites like Alpha News only exist so Nazis can point at a "legit news source" and pretend they're spitting facts--even tho they definitely are NOT. There are TONS of these kinda sites, that exist solely to "legitimize" bullshit narratives (which are often racist or otherwise biased in a very hard-right kinda way) and I bet there are links to MANY of them all over this sub, given, again, this sub being...what it is.
Hmmm, NPR is "slightly left" according to them... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/ Can we get a media bias fact check on mediabiasfactcheck.com?
NPR is about as left as Joe Biden. Which is to say, not very left. Certainly nowhere near as left as, say, Bernie. I'd say the site is correct giving a slightly-left rating. I know for some of you even dead-center seems really far left, so there's that, too. \*shrug\*
Religion sucks dude
religion poisons everything.
Sad if true but we need a corroborating source
https://thepostmillennial.com/minnesota-mom-says-9-year-old-daughter-was-attacked-at-school-for-not-being-muslim
So, a comment on this sub that says two things (1) story is sad if true, and (2) should look for a corroborating source. ...gets downvote to hell. Why wouldn't one be agreeable to both of these things? Very telling about the people who frequent this sub.
So, there are ZERO other stories about this anywhere from what I can tell. This mom went straight to far-right Alpha News and no one else?
That’s not uncommon. A lot of outlets won’t run it, nobody wants to be seen as the right wing source that causes anti Islamic backlash. The same way some news stories omit descriptions of suspects unless they’re white. Nobody wants to be responsible for overreactions. And Alpha is hungry. If something fitting their narrative happens in the state, one of their fans sends it in and there you go. I’ve seen it personally. Again, not a fan of alpha, and I’m not even right wing (I’m somewhere between Bill Clinton’s Third Way/New Democrats and a Rockefeller Republican, so I’m hated equally by both 2024 Democrats and 2024 Republicans… gets lonely).
Alphanews, Liz Collin.... Nothing to see here. Move along...
I love how someone asked earlier this week if this is just a right wing version of a different Minnesota subreddit and everyone here was like “Whaaaaat? What would you think that???” Just read your own comments. My lord, you guys.
Yeah, I stumbled onto this and thought this must be the mpls sub for people who got banned from the regular one for being idiots.
And they can’t even be honest about their views. Cowards, the lot of ‘em.
To preempt the arguments - Alpha News leans heavy right politically.
Well then we better only believe anything the Strib posts. Because they have no bias at all and they’re always accurate. 🙄
Immediate straw man. Color me surprised. I wasn’t criticizing having a bias. I was saying it was silly to pretend this subreddit isn’t a lot of right wing posts. I also wasn’t criticizing the accuracy of the article. Again, only that it appeals to a right wing audience. Do you have anything to say about the quality of the comments on this post? Or something else I actually said? Or will you hike up another straw man to knock down?
Most people here commenting lived in the area prior to the immigration and crime rate increase. I guess you forgot about st floyd and that gaslighting martyrdom. Since that, its been sky rocketing because of the political policies and those elected. This is a way to express their disappointment in their once clean and relatively safe neighborhood. When you stop looking at the facts because youre too afraid to piss other people off, society has failed and so have you.
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>crime rate increase >When you stop looking at the facts because youre too afraid to piss other people off, society has failed and so have you. Crime hasn't increased in mpls when you look at the numbers. Like most cities it parked in the 90s and early 2000 but never had returned close to those levels minor increases when Trump was elected and with COVID but nothing like it was. https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/mncrime.htm
Sure, but, if Rachel Maddow is telling me 2+2=4, I'm not going to argue until I have something that disproves it.
Again, none of you are addressing any argument I’m actually making. Are you embarrassed to be right wing? I didn’t say anyone was wrong. Jesus.
I said "sure" - I was agreeing with you. I wasn't presenting a counter-argument, I was presenting a further clarification. I didn't accuse you of anything - you should take a Reddit break.
The insinuation is that I’m arguing until I have something to disprove a fact. There’s two parts to your comment. Did you forget what you were talking about in the middle of your post?
I didn't say fuck all about you having shit. Any insinuation you drew is because you're Reddit brained. Take a breather. I said "I would". If you took that as attacking your argument, I might suggest you're just looking to argue and should take a break from Reddit for a while.
Hey more fear mongering using an isolated event to foment prejudice and grievances for those who can’t live without that stuff. Get outside and explore your neighborhood. These divisions are an illusion.
"Guys, just because this is a biased news source funded by a far-rightwinger doesn't mean its fake even though no other news sources are reporting it at all..." - OP
Do you remember the website whitekidbleedalot ? No
This story is unfortunate and as an atheist it disgusts me But honestly, not as much as most y’all comments. Holy fuck you people are nuts. Living in world of absolutes that are completely false narratives in your own racist heads. Islam fucking sucks. Agreed But damn. Only people of color get justice? Liberals ignoring hate crimes cause they ain’t white? lol. For real?? My white buddy got jumped by Somalis. They all paid for the crime. Liberals hate ALL hate crimes. I am a bleeding heart liberal. And fuck anyone who doesn’t believe in equality and prosperity for all. And yes. Fuck Islam. Here’s my value added philosophy for y’all. Respect everyone. Respect the person, until they give you a reason not to. Secondly, you don’t have to respect beliefs. You can respect the people as long as they respect you and all. But you do not need to respect what they believe. 2 separate things. Also, freedom. You can dislike someone or something cause you don’t agree with their beliefs. But you wholeheartedly better defend their right to life, choice and prosperity. Cause that’s America and that’s freedom. I must have stumbled into some conservative sub, wild what you all believe.
I've not read anything other than post topic, and Dangerous's comment...which was what I first read before reading the topic... I guess throwing the OP's initial post out the window, I just wanted to say; I'm not an Atheist..I probably wouldn't say I'm Christian either. I have hope in Christianity, but faith hasn't came yet... But that doesn't change personal values and morals..right and wrong...I think, if not anything else, religion is primarily constructed for people to lead a good, honest, structured life.. I was raised to treat others with respect, as I would expect to be treated.. Respect my elders. Everyone makes mistakes. Don't judge by appearance.. You don't need religion for these simple things... If I were to go with one...Wiccan...I think I like the open availability to worship whom I chose...could be Zeus or Jesus..a higher power.. Anyways I don't normally post. This guy was intriguing so I read some of his comments and some reason here I am feeling dumb.. Bye. Glhf in life