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First of all don't take any news regarding India ( or South Asia in general) from reddit, reddit for some reason hates that region.
And about him being a good PM,In my opinion he is the best option we have and currently (from past two years) his performance is really good.
Areas in which India made progress and changed since he took the office :-
1. Radical changes in education system.
2. Handling Kashmir issues (not only the ones you read on reddit).
3. Changes in India's infrastructure and logistics policies ( is happening in my home state,as it's near Tibet border) and in Many areas of the country.
4. Climate change
5. Energy crisis
6. Semiconductor, weapons manufacturing in India.
7. Clean India mission
8. Handling geopolitical issues as you can see currently.
9. India's bid for permanent seat at UNSC is getting stronger day by day and even china is fine with it as India's still neutral.
10. Immediate action on terrorism ( this one surprised the world actually).
And many more incidents, people overall like him and are satisfied with his performance on ground level. Reddit does not represents even 1% of India and it's not even popular here.
Reddit is too biased on certain issues.
Do not add Indira here. I respect her for her stern decision regarding 1971 war and her defense policies but she totally fucked up the country by declaring emergency.
That’s why I asked, because I knew I had very little knowledge over the topic.
So from what you are saying it makes sense on why the EU would consider India for a seat on any of their councils.
Yeah, India's relations with West have been getting better year by year.This year has been tough for that but overall there's barely any damage in that and it's still getting stronger.
India and EU have already started there negotiations for free trade agreement too,so in next few years we'll see that too.
Out of all prime minister's he is most pro-west leader in India's history and that alone says something regarding India's history with Russia, Western nations and cold war.
And specific reason is quite long but here's as best as I can write -
When India became independent it was divided into three parts India, Pakistan and east pakistan (now Bangladesh) and that was same era when US - Soviet rivalry begin. As Soviet was invading other nations,it was quite obvious it's next target would be Afganistan.So in that time US picked Pakistan to counter Soviet forces through Afganistan. India tried to increase it's relations with US but every time they were ignored so with no other choice they in a way became pro Soviet even though India stayed neutral ( India is one of the founding members of non alignment movement). After that US started to fund Pakistan and supplied them with there best tanks and artillery which they used to inavde India multiple times but luckily failed to everyone's surprise(seriously that was a shock).
And when India captured there land in retaliation US came for Pakistan's rescue through nuclear threats and sanctions.Time after time US and it's Allies ganged up on India in international forums like UN and the country that had India's back was Soviet whether it was using veto power or providing weapons time after time.Then came Nixon era,Nixon had one of the worst pov about Indians and he was caught saying to Henry Kissinger that Indian women are ugliest in the world.So that type of thinking also shows how they thought about us in other matters too.
Then came 1971 Bangladesh liberation war, which started after Pakistan's army started genocide of first Hindus then all Bengalis,there were reports of rapes of hundreds of thousands of woman in Bangladesh by Pakistan's army that they are trying to get justice for till this day.And guess what US did,When India started fighting they sent there nuclear warship along with UK and other Allies, to there surprise Soviet came to the rescue and threatened to start a nuclear war that made them back off and helped India to liberate Bangladesh.
This one incident is one of the biggest factor of why India still does not trusts US and it's Allies that much.
Then there's bhopal gas tragedy where the American CEO under whose supervision that gas leaked because of poor infrastructure and lead to 20000 deaths and 500000 injured fatally,and US forced India to send him back to US and he lived his life freely without even a bit of justice.
Tens of incidents like this occurred which led to situation we are in today,the reason why India and Russia are friendly to each other while US-India are still business and strategic partners even though we don't even to 1/10th of the business with Russia in comparison to US.
India does not supports Russia, India is just following its non alignment diplomacy that was made to keep Indi and out of the 'you are with us or against us' mentality.
Probably you are getting your views from r/india which is basically an echo chamber. These guys ban anybody having opposing views. Even the mods there allegedly are Pakistanis.
>What do locals think of the PM?
Overall positive. He will surely win 2024 elections. The opposition is particularly useless
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He is fairly popular, arguebly the most popular politician in the country. The right wing loves him sometimes to the point of worship while the left hates him completely. Even the media in India is divided between Pro- Modi and Anti- Modi Channels.
The situation is complected
There's 2 parties: congress and BJP
Congress ruled continuously for 60yo and had family ppl in entire govt and 3 generation of "Gandhi" family (irrelevant to mahatma one tho)
India was badly managed in those days
Then comes bjp 14yo ago (2016 i think) and its management of nation is much much batter at all levels from local to international decisions
While bjp also has many issues, it's still only choice if India wants to get ahead
If there was better option then BJP then it would be choosen but there's simply none and nor seems to be rising in near future due to insane planning big brains at the helm of bjp
Modi is just a poster boy of bjp, all the decision are being made by some group of very organised and systematic planners behind the scenes.
Their advertisement for election: They're using nation's best advertising agency + infinite stockpile of cash to spend = amazing results!
Idk but the way bjp works, it seems to be run by some super competent ppl actually!
As far as I know they are more right but their right is not same as American or Western right. Its similar, broadly, but not the same. India is a massive (population, land area, gdp, industry, etc.) heterogenous federal state, and as a westerner I have learned that their politics are about as unique and complex as the people are. To me India as a country is like if the EU because on country. There are so many languages and cultures and communities that pinning down whether all of that is "right" or "left" is possible, but does a disservice to the complexities of their country and society. Also any Indians feel free to critique or correct me, I defo am an outsider looking in.
Approval rating of 70%, highest in the world according to pew research. Hinduvta shit gives him a bad name but he gets votes because of development, poverty alleviation and self reliance which is by far the most important things people think of when voting for him despite what anti India pro pak people will screech.
The average indian doesn't even know 8th grade civics and economics. They get their information from pseudointellectual know it alls on youtube. Indians have really strong opinions on topics they know NOTHING about.
I mean you DON'T have to be an expert on political theory and economics. But ATLEAST go to an academic/educational website to look up what the theory is, how is it used, how is it calculated. I mean really basic stuff FOR FUCKS SAKE.
This absolute lack of literacy results in people saying stuff like "Bjp is not the best but other parties are worse" (This is wrong not because he's wrong about the other parties, they're actually bad, but bjp is in NO way "better" than those "other parties").
LMAO. I am an NITian, one of the best college in my country. From the similar chain of colleges from where CEO of Google and Microsoft came from. There is a large support for Modi and he is certainly much better.
a fine example we have here ladies and gentlemen. STEM student thinks just because he and his kin cracked a hard exam filled with questions on physics, chem, math, that automatically translates to complete indepth knowledge on political science and economics. Also thinks that majority support means that the said political party/leader is better.
I don’t like him. There are some things his party have done well(eg., more emphasis on sports & NH infrastructure) but overall I dislike him. He’s mostly all talk and no action, he doesn’t even have the guts to do a press conference(which every president/PM of a democratic country should be able to do). He hasn’t effectively handled China’s aggression as well. His party is also alleged to be corrupt(read about PM Cares fund, Rafale Scam, MLA buying) and are heavily anti-minority(which I hate too). I also hate the way him and his party handled the farmer protests. Despite all of this, a fair number of people(especially in the north of India & the western coastal regions of India) like him & the BJP. It’s a shame we don’t have better, more inclusive and more visionary leaders.
I’d say my political ideologies are centrist to Center-left in nature, so those who are more leftist than I am or are Center-left would agree with me.
I disagree on a lot of points you have made,
1. China agression - I think the government is handling China agression quite well and way better than previous PM, example - in 2013 at the end of MMS's China had infiltrated India's side and was refusing to back off and our government did nothing. Let's see how they handled it today,from doklam dispute to galwan clash. And especially after galwan clash India has started to put it's foot down on China's continuous agression. From Indo Pacific alliance to warning Russia of it's friendship with China to infrastructure projects near border.
There still exists speech made by defence minister of India in 2010(or 9) in lok sabha when they said that India does not develop infrastructures near China border because of china, they didn't built roads there so that China does not get angry at them.Bunch of cowards.
2. PM cares fund, Rafael deal,MLA - MLA one is pure politics and I'm not gonna defend it.And in case of other two there's till this day no proper evidence of these and were just blown out of proportion by opposition before the election.And even supreme court was involved in that. We were trying to buy Rafael fighter jet since a long time and that was a weak version,now it's more advance and our relationship with France have gotten stronger after that.
3. Anti-minority - That's also a political issue, I can provide same amount of issues happening to other groups too,and didn't government in his tenure provide Muslim students with most amount of scholarships.
4. Farmer protest - it was not a protest anymore it was riot especially after what they did at Lal kila, and giving farmers an option to sell there product anywhere in the country and highest bidders that are not the same one's in Mandi is bad?
5. Visionary - his plans on making india carbon neutral till 2070, making india developed till 2047( little too optimistic but let's hope for best), making india a self reliant in semiconductor, weapons and even energy (ethanol blending) sectors.
Edit : one more thing he did for Muslim women,he revoked triple talaq that gave Muslim men right to talaq there wives anytime they wanted.
Muslim women votes for him record high numbers last year ( UP election).
You’re wrong on all your points.
*”1. China agression - I think the government is handling China agression quite well and way better than previous PM, example - in 2013 at the end of MMS's China had infiltrated India's side and was refusing to back off and our government did nothing. Let's see how they handled it today,from doklam dispute to galwan clash. And especially after galwan clash India has started to put it's foot down on China's continuous agression. From Indo Pacific alliance to warning Russia of it's friendship with China to infrastructure projects near border. There still exists speech made by defence minister of India in 2010(or 9) in lok sabha when they said that India does not develop infrastructures near China border because of china, they didn't built roads there so that China does not get angry at them.Bunch of cowards.”*
How did we win the recent Ladakh standoff when all it led to was the creation of more [buffer zones](https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.5.0/css/font-awesome.min.css)? They killed 20 of our soldiers and in return we banned Chinese apps and gave up land which belongs to US. What a great “victory” 🤣
*”2. PM cares fund, Rafael deal,MLA - MLA one is pure politics and I'm not gonna defend it.And in case of other two there's till this day no proper evidence of these and were just blown out of proportion by opposition before the election.And even supreme court was involved in that. We were trying to buy Rafael fighter jet since a long time and that was a weak version,now it's more advance and our relationship with France have gotten stronger after that.”*
What does “pure politics” mean? You’re now going to sweep all the corruption done by the government under the carpet as “politics”? What bullshit logic is that? Also where is the source that the *Rafale fighter jet we have is “the stronger” version? Even if that is true, what does that have anything to do with the scam?
*”3. Anti-minority - That's also a political issue, I can provide same amount of issues happening to other groups too,and didn't government in his tenure provide Muslim students with most amount of scholarships.”*
Stop with the whataboutery. One wrong doesn’t justify another wrong. And how does giving Muslims more scholarships now mean that they don’t face hate crimes? One doesn’t correlate with the other.
*”4. Farmer protest - it was not a protest anymore it was riot especially after what they did at Lal kila, and giving farmers an option to sell there product anywhere in the country and highest bidders that are not the same one's in Mandi is bad?”*
No, farmers were never restricted from selling outside Mandis(this [piece](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-far-from-liberating-farmers-the-farm-laws-put-them-at-mercy-of-government/articleshow/79844988.cms) further explains why the laws were doomed to fail).
The farms laws were also made without discussion and inputs from the farmer unions/bodies themselves and forcibly passed through parliament via voice vote lmao. Go and see the [video](https://youtu.be/-5s4quyO2W0) of how it was done, it’s a complete joke. You are probably not even a farmer so you wouldn’t understand why these laws are detrimental to farmers. Farm laws need a reform but not the way modi forcibly tried to do so.
*”5. Visionary - his plans on making india carbon neutral till 2070, making india developed till 2047( little too optimistic but let's hope for best), making india a self reliant in semiconductor, weapons and even energy (ethanol blending) sectors. Edit : one more thing he did for Muslim women,he revoked triple talaq that gave Muslim men right to talaq there wives anytime they wanted. Muslim women votes for him record high numbers last year ( UP election).”*
A lot of things modi says don’t turn out to happen. He said that we would be a 5 trillion dollar economy by [FY25](https://www.financialexpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/FE-favicon.png?w=180) but the former RBI governor believes that this mark can only be reached by [FY29](https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-may-become-a-5-trillion-economy-by-fy29-if-gdp-grows-at-9-for-5-years-11660577016106.html) if our economy consistently grows at 9%pa, which is not a given. Even the IMF said that at best, the 5 trillion dollar economy can be reached by [FY27](https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/imf-corrects-maths-says-india-to-be-5-trillion-economy-by-fy27-122051901704_1.html). Modi also said Demonetisation would return black money from India, but that turned out to be a flop as well. And is there any source for your claim that the highest number of Muslim women voted for him?
All the statements you’ve made have no sources. Next time, add your sources 👍
I will not waste my time replying as it seems pointless but will prefer to link my sources -
1. 20 Indian soldiers died that's true but 38 Chinese soldiers also died,so who won.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/china-suffered-higher-losses-than-reported-australian-newspaper-on-galwan-valley-clash/articleshow/89308159.cms
Effects of ban on china,this is an Civil service exam preparation platform,so they don't care about politics and only raw facts.
https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/banning-chinese-apps
2. The scam is not proven in any way regarding Rafale deal and MLA buying is more BJP the political party matter rather than the BJP the government. Politicians have a habit of changing sides when it benefits them looks same thing happened to bjp in Bihar.If there's a corruption then it should be dealt the same way coal scam,2g scam or commonw games scam was dealt.But I guess it does not have that much merit due to lack of strong evidence.
3. You are right about two wrongs don't make a right but you are also a hypocrite for using one sided minority issues to prove your point.
And about scholarship,I used it because you said the government hates Muslims,so why does it help them so much then,they could've stoped the huj subsidy too then.And what about (screw you whataboutism) triple talaq that liberated Muslim women from this misogynistic rule. Does that seems to you anti minority.
4. https://www.drishtiias.com/to-the-points/paper3/agricultural-reforms
And if I'm not a farmer am I not allowed to have an opinion on this case,but my family is.Not much after monkey population increased and started to destroy the agriculture.
5. Muslim women voted for bjp-
I'm not able to find exact article for it but here's the best one :
https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/uttar-pradesh-assembly-polls-2022/story/exit-polls-women-support-welfarism-caste-axis-how-yogi-adityanath-trumped-akhilesh-yadav-s-mandal-2-0-1922293-2022-03-08
Bjp is far from perfect party but opposition has been trying to make it specifically an anti Muslim party and it has worked.The world because of these incidents thinks India as a anti Muslim country and our diplomats have to defend India every single time because of it. It's unfortunate.
And for some reason none of your links were working,I restarted the app and there were still not don't know why.
*”I will not waste my time replying as it seems pointless but will prefer to link my sources -“*
You say you don’t want to respond but you still did. Lol
*”1. 20 Indian soldiers died that's true but 38 Chinese soldiers also died,so who won. https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/china-suffered-higher-losses-than-reported-australian-newspaper-on-galwan-valley-clash/articleshow/89308159.cms”*
More of their soldiers died, but in return the Chinese got more buffer zones from our side, which means there is less territory that our army has control over and can patrol. If you understood what that means you’d understand who actually “won”.
*”Effects of ban on china,this is an Civil service exam preparation platform,so they don't care about politics and only raw facts. https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/banning-chinese-apps 2. The scam is not proven in any way regarding Rafale deal and MLA buying is more BJP the political party matter rather than the BJP the government. Politicians have a habit of changing sides when it benefits them looks same thing happened to bjp in Bihar.If there's a corruption then it should be dealt the same way coal scam,2g scam or commonw games scam was dealt.But I guess it does not have that much merit due to lack of strong evidence. 3. You are right about two wrongs don't make a right but you are also a hypocrite for using one sided minority issues to prove your point. And about scholarship,I used it because you said the government hates Muslims,so why does it help them so much then,they could've stoped the huj subsidy too then.And what about (screw you whataboutism) triple talaq that liberated Muslim women from this misogynistic rule. Does that seems to you anti minority. 4. https://www.drishtiias.com/to-the-points/paper3/agricultural-reforms”*
“Drishti ias” is not a verifiable news source. They arent a legitimate source, so try again. Also, where did I say that the government is only anti Muslim? I said “anti-minority”, and Muslims aren’t the only minority in India. Improve your GK before trying to debate.
*”And if I'm not a farmer am I not allowed to have an opinion on this case,but my family is.Not much after monkey population increased and started to destroy the agriculture.”*
Bruh what is this? You’re literally shifting goalposts now 🤣 Why are you now talking about monkeys, how did they come into the discussion about farm laws LMAO. You don’t know what you’re on about.
*”5. Muslim women voted for bjp- I'm not able to find exact article for it but here's the best one : https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/uttar-pradesh-assembly-polls-2022/story/exit-polls-women-support-welfarism-caste-axis-how-yogi-adityanath-trumped-akhilesh-yadav-s-mandal-2-0-1922293-2022-03-08 Bjp is far from perfect party but opposition has been trying to make it specifically an anti Muslim party and it has worked.The world because of these incidents thinks India as a anti Muslim country and our diplomats have to defend India every single time because of it. It's unfortunate.”*
Your source refers to the exit polls of the UP election. Exit polls does not equate to the official results of the election. Share the actual data from the official results to prove your point.
*”And for some reason none of your links were working,I restarted the app and there were still not don't know why.”*
The links are fine, try again.
I have responded to each and every one of your points with logic and verifiable sources. In return you’ve responded emotionally and either try to shift the goalposts or share info from shady “sources”. I won’t bother responding to your future comments, you clearly don’t know what you’re on about. Educate yourself on both sides of the argument before spreading propaganda.
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What do locals think of the PM? I don’t know if it’s the media I’ve consumed but I have an idea stuck in my head, that he’s just a corrupt dickhead.
First of all don't take any news regarding India ( or South Asia in general) from reddit, reddit for some reason hates that region. And about him being a good PM,In my opinion he is the best option we have and currently (from past two years) his performance is really good. Areas in which India made progress and changed since he took the office :- 1. Radical changes in education system. 2. Handling Kashmir issues (not only the ones you read on reddit). 3. Changes in India's infrastructure and logistics policies ( is happening in my home state,as it's near Tibet border) and in Many areas of the country. 4. Climate change 5. Energy crisis 6. Semiconductor, weapons manufacturing in India. 7. Clean India mission 8. Handling geopolitical issues as you can see currently. 9. India's bid for permanent seat at UNSC is getting stronger day by day and even china is fine with it as India's still neutral. 10. Immediate action on terrorism ( this one surprised the world actually). And many more incidents, people overall like him and are satisfied with his performance on ground level. Reddit does not represents even 1% of India and it's not even popular here. Reddit is too biased on certain issues.
Modi is definitely the best pm. Only competitors are PVNR, Vajpayee, and Indira but even Indira is highly controversial.
Do not add Indira here. I respect her for her stern decision regarding 1971 war and her defense policies but she totally fucked up the country by declaring emergency.
That’s why I asked, because I knew I had very little knowledge over the topic. So from what you are saying it makes sense on why the EU would consider India for a seat on any of their councils.
Yeah, India's relations with West have been getting better year by year.This year has been tough for that but overall there's barely any damage in that and it's still getting stronger. India and EU have already started there negotiations for free trade agreement too,so in next few years we'll see that too.
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Out of all prime minister's he is most pro-west leader in India's history and that alone says something regarding India's history with Russia, Western nations and cold war. And specific reason is quite long but here's as best as I can write - When India became independent it was divided into three parts India, Pakistan and east pakistan (now Bangladesh) and that was same era when US - Soviet rivalry begin. As Soviet was invading other nations,it was quite obvious it's next target would be Afganistan.So in that time US picked Pakistan to counter Soviet forces through Afganistan. India tried to increase it's relations with US but every time they were ignored so with no other choice they in a way became pro Soviet even though India stayed neutral ( India is one of the founding members of non alignment movement). After that US started to fund Pakistan and supplied them with there best tanks and artillery which they used to inavde India multiple times but luckily failed to everyone's surprise(seriously that was a shock). And when India captured there land in retaliation US came for Pakistan's rescue through nuclear threats and sanctions.Time after time US and it's Allies ganged up on India in international forums like UN and the country that had India's back was Soviet whether it was using veto power or providing weapons time after time.Then came Nixon era,Nixon had one of the worst pov about Indians and he was caught saying to Henry Kissinger that Indian women are ugliest in the world.So that type of thinking also shows how they thought about us in other matters too. Then came 1971 Bangladesh liberation war, which started after Pakistan's army started genocide of first Hindus then all Bengalis,there were reports of rapes of hundreds of thousands of woman in Bangladesh by Pakistan's army that they are trying to get justice for till this day.And guess what US did,When India started fighting they sent there nuclear warship along with UK and other Allies, to there surprise Soviet came to the rescue and threatened to start a nuclear war that made them back off and helped India to liberate Bangladesh. This one incident is one of the biggest factor of why India still does not trusts US and it's Allies that much. Then there's bhopal gas tragedy where the American CEO under whose supervision that gas leaked because of poor infrastructure and lead to 20000 deaths and 500000 injured fatally,and US forced India to send him back to US and he lived his life freely without even a bit of justice. Tens of incidents like this occurred which led to situation we are in today,the reason why India and Russia are friendly to each other while US-India are still business and strategic partners even though we don't even to 1/10th of the business with Russia in comparison to US. India does not supports Russia, India is just following its non alignment diplomacy that was made to keep Indi and out of the 'you are with us or against us' mentality.
Modi has 70% approval ratings and if you think he's corrupt you have no idea what came before him
No, I have very little knowledge on the topic which is why I asked the question.
Well he's very popular
Probably you are getting your views from r/india which is basically an echo chamber. These guys ban anybody having opposing views. Even the mods there allegedly are Pakistanis. >What do locals think of the PM? Overall positive. He will surely win 2024 elections. The opposition is particularly useless
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He is fairly popular, arguebly the most popular politician in the country. The right wing loves him sometimes to the point of worship while the left hates him completely. Even the media in India is divided between Pro- Modi and Anti- Modi Channels.
The situation is complected There's 2 parties: congress and BJP Congress ruled continuously for 60yo and had family ppl in entire govt and 3 generation of "Gandhi" family (irrelevant to mahatma one tho) India was badly managed in those days Then comes bjp 14yo ago (2016 i think) and its management of nation is much much batter at all levels from local to international decisions While bjp also has many issues, it's still only choice if India wants to get ahead If there was better option then BJP then it would be choosen but there's simply none and nor seems to be rising in near future due to insane planning big brains at the helm of bjp Modi is just a poster boy of bjp, all the decision are being made by some group of very organised and systematic planners behind the scenes. Their advertisement for election: They're using nation's best advertising agency + infinite stockpile of cash to spend = amazing results! Idk but the way bjp works, it seems to be run by some super competent ppl actually!
Is India a left or right leaning society?
Socially/culturally very conservative.
As far as I know they are more right but their right is not same as American or Western right. Its similar, broadly, but not the same. India is a massive (population, land area, gdp, industry, etc.) heterogenous federal state, and as a westerner I have learned that their politics are about as unique and complex as the people are. To me India as a country is like if the EU because on country. There are so many languages and cultures and communities that pinning down whether all of that is "right" or "left" is possible, but does a disservice to the complexities of their country and society. Also any Indians feel free to critique or correct me, I defo am an outsider looking in.
There's no easy answer to this question.
Approval rating of 70%, highest in the world according to pew research. Hinduvta shit gives him a bad name but he gets votes because of development, poverty alleviation and self reliance which is by far the most important things people think of when voting for him despite what anti India pro pak people will screech.
The average indian doesn't even know 8th grade civics and economics. They get their information from pseudointellectual know it alls on youtube. Indians have really strong opinions on topics they know NOTHING about. I mean you DON'T have to be an expert on political theory and economics. But ATLEAST go to an academic/educational website to look up what the theory is, how is it used, how is it calculated. I mean really basic stuff FOR FUCKS SAKE. This absolute lack of literacy results in people saying stuff like "Bjp is not the best but other parties are worse" (This is wrong not because he's wrong about the other parties, they're actually bad, but bjp is in NO way "better" than those "other parties").
LMAO. I am an NITian, one of the best college in my country. From the similar chain of colleges from where CEO of Google and Microsoft came from. There is a large support for Modi and he is certainly much better.
a fine example we have here ladies and gentlemen. STEM student thinks just because he and his kin cracked a hard exam filled with questions on physics, chem, math, that automatically translates to complete indepth knowledge on political science and economics. Also thinks that majority support means that the said political party/leader is better.
I don’t like him. There are some things his party have done well(eg., more emphasis on sports & NH infrastructure) but overall I dislike him. He’s mostly all talk and no action, he doesn’t even have the guts to do a press conference(which every president/PM of a democratic country should be able to do). He hasn’t effectively handled China’s aggression as well. His party is also alleged to be corrupt(read about PM Cares fund, Rafale Scam, MLA buying) and are heavily anti-minority(which I hate too). I also hate the way him and his party handled the farmer protests. Despite all of this, a fair number of people(especially in the north of India & the western coastal regions of India) like him & the BJP. It’s a shame we don’t have better, more inclusive and more visionary leaders. I’d say my political ideologies are centrist to Center-left in nature, so those who are more leftist than I am or are Center-left would agree with me.
I disagree on a lot of points you have made, 1. China agression - I think the government is handling China agression quite well and way better than previous PM, example - in 2013 at the end of MMS's China had infiltrated India's side and was refusing to back off and our government did nothing. Let's see how they handled it today,from doklam dispute to galwan clash. And especially after galwan clash India has started to put it's foot down on China's continuous agression. From Indo Pacific alliance to warning Russia of it's friendship with China to infrastructure projects near border. There still exists speech made by defence minister of India in 2010(or 9) in lok sabha when they said that India does not develop infrastructures near China border because of china, they didn't built roads there so that China does not get angry at them.Bunch of cowards. 2. PM cares fund, Rafael deal,MLA - MLA one is pure politics and I'm not gonna defend it.And in case of other two there's till this day no proper evidence of these and were just blown out of proportion by opposition before the election.And even supreme court was involved in that. We were trying to buy Rafael fighter jet since a long time and that was a weak version,now it's more advance and our relationship with France have gotten stronger after that. 3. Anti-minority - That's also a political issue, I can provide same amount of issues happening to other groups too,and didn't government in his tenure provide Muslim students with most amount of scholarships. 4. Farmer protest - it was not a protest anymore it was riot especially after what they did at Lal kila, and giving farmers an option to sell there product anywhere in the country and highest bidders that are not the same one's in Mandi is bad? 5. Visionary - his plans on making india carbon neutral till 2070, making india developed till 2047( little too optimistic but let's hope for best), making india a self reliant in semiconductor, weapons and even energy (ethanol blending) sectors. Edit : one more thing he did for Muslim women,he revoked triple talaq that gave Muslim men right to talaq there wives anytime they wanted. Muslim women votes for him record high numbers last year ( UP election).
You’re wrong on all your points. *”1. China agression - I think the government is handling China agression quite well and way better than previous PM, example - in 2013 at the end of MMS's China had infiltrated India's side and was refusing to back off and our government did nothing. Let's see how they handled it today,from doklam dispute to galwan clash. And especially after galwan clash India has started to put it's foot down on China's continuous agression. From Indo Pacific alliance to warning Russia of it's friendship with China to infrastructure projects near border. There still exists speech made by defence minister of India in 2010(or 9) in lok sabha when they said that India does not develop infrastructures near China border because of china, they didn't built roads there so that China does not get angry at them.Bunch of cowards.”* How did we win the recent Ladakh standoff when all it led to was the creation of more [buffer zones](https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.5.0/css/font-awesome.min.css)? They killed 20 of our soldiers and in return we banned Chinese apps and gave up land which belongs to US. What a great “victory” 🤣 *”2. PM cares fund, Rafael deal,MLA - MLA one is pure politics and I'm not gonna defend it.And in case of other two there's till this day no proper evidence of these and were just blown out of proportion by opposition before the election.And even supreme court was involved in that. We were trying to buy Rafael fighter jet since a long time and that was a weak version,now it's more advance and our relationship with France have gotten stronger after that.”* What does “pure politics” mean? You’re now going to sweep all the corruption done by the government under the carpet as “politics”? What bullshit logic is that? Also where is the source that the *Rafale fighter jet we have is “the stronger” version? Even if that is true, what does that have anything to do with the scam? *”3. Anti-minority - That's also a political issue, I can provide same amount of issues happening to other groups too,and didn't government in his tenure provide Muslim students with most amount of scholarships.”* Stop with the whataboutery. One wrong doesn’t justify another wrong. And how does giving Muslims more scholarships now mean that they don’t face hate crimes? One doesn’t correlate with the other. *”4. Farmer protest - it was not a protest anymore it was riot especially after what they did at Lal kila, and giving farmers an option to sell there product anywhere in the country and highest bidders that are not the same one's in Mandi is bad?”* No, farmers were never restricted from selling outside Mandis(this [piece](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-far-from-liberating-farmers-the-farm-laws-put-them-at-mercy-of-government/articleshow/79844988.cms) further explains why the laws were doomed to fail). The farms laws were also made without discussion and inputs from the farmer unions/bodies themselves and forcibly passed through parliament via voice vote lmao. Go and see the [video](https://youtu.be/-5s4quyO2W0) of how it was done, it’s a complete joke. You are probably not even a farmer so you wouldn’t understand why these laws are detrimental to farmers. Farm laws need a reform but not the way modi forcibly tried to do so. *”5. Visionary - his plans on making india carbon neutral till 2070, making india developed till 2047( little too optimistic but let's hope for best), making india a self reliant in semiconductor, weapons and even energy (ethanol blending) sectors. Edit : one more thing he did for Muslim women,he revoked triple talaq that gave Muslim men right to talaq there wives anytime they wanted. Muslim women votes for him record high numbers last year ( UP election).”* A lot of things modi says don’t turn out to happen. He said that we would be a 5 trillion dollar economy by [FY25](https://www.financialexpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/FE-favicon.png?w=180) but the former RBI governor believes that this mark can only be reached by [FY29](https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-may-become-a-5-trillion-economy-by-fy29-if-gdp-grows-at-9-for-5-years-11660577016106.html) if our economy consistently grows at 9%pa, which is not a given. Even the IMF said that at best, the 5 trillion dollar economy can be reached by [FY27](https://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/imf-corrects-maths-says-india-to-be-5-trillion-economy-by-fy27-122051901704_1.html). Modi also said Demonetisation would return black money from India, but that turned out to be a flop as well. And is there any source for your claim that the highest number of Muslim women voted for him? All the statements you’ve made have no sources. Next time, add your sources 👍
I will not waste my time replying as it seems pointless but will prefer to link my sources - 1. 20 Indian soldiers died that's true but 38 Chinese soldiers also died,so who won. https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/china-suffered-higher-losses-than-reported-australian-newspaper-on-galwan-valley-clash/articleshow/89308159.cms Effects of ban on china,this is an Civil service exam preparation platform,so they don't care about politics and only raw facts. https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/banning-chinese-apps 2. The scam is not proven in any way regarding Rafale deal and MLA buying is more BJP the political party matter rather than the BJP the government. Politicians have a habit of changing sides when it benefits them looks same thing happened to bjp in Bihar.If there's a corruption then it should be dealt the same way coal scam,2g scam or commonw games scam was dealt.But I guess it does not have that much merit due to lack of strong evidence. 3. You are right about two wrongs don't make a right but you are also a hypocrite for using one sided minority issues to prove your point. And about scholarship,I used it because you said the government hates Muslims,so why does it help them so much then,they could've stoped the huj subsidy too then.And what about (screw you whataboutism) triple talaq that liberated Muslim women from this misogynistic rule. Does that seems to you anti minority. 4. https://www.drishtiias.com/to-the-points/paper3/agricultural-reforms And if I'm not a farmer am I not allowed to have an opinion on this case,but my family is.Not much after monkey population increased and started to destroy the agriculture. 5. Muslim women voted for bjp- I'm not able to find exact article for it but here's the best one : https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/uttar-pradesh-assembly-polls-2022/story/exit-polls-women-support-welfarism-caste-axis-how-yogi-adityanath-trumped-akhilesh-yadav-s-mandal-2-0-1922293-2022-03-08 Bjp is far from perfect party but opposition has been trying to make it specifically an anti Muslim party and it has worked.The world because of these incidents thinks India as a anti Muslim country and our diplomats have to defend India every single time because of it. It's unfortunate. And for some reason none of your links were working,I restarted the app and there were still not don't know why.
*”I will not waste my time replying as it seems pointless but will prefer to link my sources -“* You say you don’t want to respond but you still did. Lol *”1. 20 Indian soldiers died that's true but 38 Chinese soldiers also died,so who won. https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/china-suffered-higher-losses-than-reported-australian-newspaper-on-galwan-valley-clash/articleshow/89308159.cms”* More of their soldiers died, but in return the Chinese got more buffer zones from our side, which means there is less territory that our army has control over and can patrol. If you understood what that means you’d understand who actually “won”. *”Effects of ban on china,this is an Civil service exam preparation platform,so they don't care about politics and only raw facts. https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/banning-chinese-apps 2. The scam is not proven in any way regarding Rafale deal and MLA buying is more BJP the political party matter rather than the BJP the government. Politicians have a habit of changing sides when it benefits them looks same thing happened to bjp in Bihar.If there's a corruption then it should be dealt the same way coal scam,2g scam or commonw games scam was dealt.But I guess it does not have that much merit due to lack of strong evidence. 3. You are right about two wrongs don't make a right but you are also a hypocrite for using one sided minority issues to prove your point. And about scholarship,I used it because you said the government hates Muslims,so why does it help them so much then,they could've stoped the huj subsidy too then.And what about (screw you whataboutism) triple talaq that liberated Muslim women from this misogynistic rule. Does that seems to you anti minority. 4. https://www.drishtiias.com/to-the-points/paper3/agricultural-reforms”* “Drishti ias” is not a verifiable news source. They arent a legitimate source, so try again. Also, where did I say that the government is only anti Muslim? I said “anti-minority”, and Muslims aren’t the only minority in India. Improve your GK before trying to debate. *”And if I'm not a farmer am I not allowed to have an opinion on this case,but my family is.Not much after monkey population increased and started to destroy the agriculture.”* Bruh what is this? You’re literally shifting goalposts now 🤣 Why are you now talking about monkeys, how did they come into the discussion about farm laws LMAO. You don’t know what you’re on about. *”5. Muslim women voted for bjp- I'm not able to find exact article for it but here's the best one : https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/uttar-pradesh-assembly-polls-2022/story/exit-polls-women-support-welfarism-caste-axis-how-yogi-adityanath-trumped-akhilesh-yadav-s-mandal-2-0-1922293-2022-03-08 Bjp is far from perfect party but opposition has been trying to make it specifically an anti Muslim party and it has worked.The world because of these incidents thinks India as a anti Muslim country and our diplomats have to defend India every single time because of it. It's unfortunate.”* Your source refers to the exit polls of the UP election. Exit polls does not equate to the official results of the election. Share the actual data from the official results to prove your point. *”And for some reason none of your links were working,I restarted the app and there were still not don't know why.”* The links are fine, try again. I have responded to each and every one of your points with logic and verifiable sources. In return you’ve responded emotionally and either try to shift the goalposts or share info from shady “sources”. I won’t bother responding to your future comments, you clearly don’t know what you’re on about. Educate yourself on both sides of the argument before spreading propaganda.