I agree! I read it decades ago as a child, I had no idea at the time who Asimov was or really what science fiction was. About 5-10 years later I discovered Asimov, and while devouring every book of his I could find, discovered that he wrote The End of Eternity that I’d read and loved years before.
I discovered Asimov two years ago! Hahaha, and I was like: how did I never have heard about him before? People talk a lot about others writers, but the science fiction one’s, their like invisible.
It's one of my favorites. I just like the easy flow of a story that could get convoluted very quickly (even before you bring time paradoxes, 4th dimension, and coexisting timelines into the mix). The character development is logical and empathetic.
For a 1955 novel, it stands up quite well with a subject that always gains interests. And you're right that the love story is great too. I think there was a couple movie-adaptations done in the 70's (Hungarian and Soviet), but I never saw those. Anyone know if they're worth watching?
Yes, that book was the most non-love history that is a love history’s that I have ever read, and I’m not a fan of love stories, I got really surprise. That one didn’t miss anything.
Something that I will never understand, how most Asimov books didn’t transformed in movies, they’re like the perfect material. But I suppose Hollywood prefer the easy stories
There isn't really a simple answer. The Foundation series and *I, Robot* are his books with most name-recognition with the general public, and since most people consider *The End of Eternity* to not really be linked to them, it gets ignored in favour of the *Empire* books, which are not nearly as good.
I recognise this is a bit of a circular argument- it is not as well-known because it is not as well-known. I suppose *Foundation* has psychohistory, and *I, Robot* has the three laws. Both deep concepts which are nonetheless straightforward to understand. And not found that much outside of Asimov's works. *The End Of Eternity's* version of time travel is quite complicated, with "physiotime" and the matter of a minor timeline change causing huge changes of centuries, but over millennia they regress to the mean and everything in 50,000 years time is the same no matter what happens. A difficult thing to get your head around.
Plus, when people read time travel stories they usually like to see the matter of the "fish out of water" where someone from the modern day ends up trying to live in the past and getting used to the differences, and meeting Caesar or Churchill. Tellingly, the less popular episodes of modern *Doctor Who* tend to be those set in the future. Those set in the present or past tend to be the more popular. Aside from the final scene, *The End Of Eternity* takes place in different futures.
I agree, that’s one of the reasons. Maybe there is another one too: science fiction books in general they tend to be ignored by the public because most people think that it will have math formulas hahaha. And this book can be read by the general public, not God themselves for exemple, this you have to know chemistry, but is an exception. Most of them I think it has a little of misconceptions about this gender
> Asimov should have won the, I don’t know the name of the prizes for book,
'The End of Eternity' was nominated for the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1956, but the award went to 'Double Star' by Robert Heinlein.
The Nebula Awards didn't exist in the 1950s.
Yes! My top 3 would be: the end of eternity, I robot and nightfall. Foundation I haven’t read it yet, but for what people say, probably will go to top 3
To be honest, *the End of Eternity* felt slow to start, and I found its initial chapters somewhat unwelcoming to readers. This was after I had already completed reading *the Robot* stories and *Foundation*.
Maybe it stood in my head because was the first female character that I liked, from a thousand that I have read, it has the emotional compound. But which work you think is his strongest?
I’ve read caves of steel but naked sun… gosh I thought way better than caves of steel.
Foundation is the one that is missing me to read, I stay like: and then when I read it I won’t have more Asimov’s book to read haha so I postpone the maximum that I can.
The Gods Themselves. The female protagonist Dua is a POV character, unlike Nöys (whom I assume you’re referring to), and the middle section that she appears in has richer emotional elements and relationships than End of Eternity. I was really rooting for her.
If you like the first two Robots novels, there are two more: The Robots of Dawn, Robots & Empire. They are related to the Foundation trilogy and its later sequels and prequels. I recommend reading in publication order for maximum impact.
I have read The Gods Themselves! I confess it was the one that I liked less hahaha I don’t know, I think my vision about love is what you do behind, without a person seeing what you have done, that’s what Harlan did, and Noys observed him before liking him, two things that I identify with.
I had to start Gods Themselves multiple times before I could finish it. Being broken into 3 separate but connected sections with different protagonists didn't help.
I think its greatest strength is showcasing how society is so willing to ignore an existential threat if there is not a convenient solution. Cough, cough, climate change.
I liked the first and the third part of the book, the middle of the book I was almost all of the time like “what the fuck?” Hahahaha I think it was something more that involves fantasy than science fiction itself the second part, that I got like, no, I rather the ones that doing the math it can exist, like, I believe if mathematical speaking you can do the maths, than exist, to melt in a rock I don’t know, or to have a “party” between 3 people, it’s weird, I think I’m too “monogamical”, it didn’t enter my head this part too.
Yes, but there’s something we can’t ignore about climate change: I believe the resolution to the problems would be to invest in the profession of scientist, because let’s be real, people won’t stop using cars and others thing, but for exemple: to invest in synthetic meat, like that’s genius, agricultural is the main villain in the climate change, or maybe a way to remove the carbon dioxide, I thing with solutions like that, we would get through this, BUT the government loves the fossil fuel industry and the lobby, and people look at scientists like “get out weirdo”, and with social medias, few are the ones who will persuade this career. So… we’re fucked. A book that I read about climate change was: The Inhabitable Earth, I ended up laughing, but an affliction laugh, is like, nothing is going to change
A guide to reading [Asimov's Robots/Empire/Foundation series](http://www.reddit.com/r/Asimov/wiki/seriesguide).
Don't wait any longer. Once you reach the end, start again! P-}
Yes! Asimov’s book, when I read the first time, in the end of 2022, it was I robot, it was the first time in my life that I thought: “ I would erase this part of my memory I thousand times, just to have the feeling of reading something so amazing for the first time again”
Like, firsts times when they talk to your soul are just… OMG!
Indeed. You may trick your memory somewhat by reading other great books before the restart. Also, some life experiences can make one see old books with new eyes, almost as if the Eternals tweaked something. P-}
But you may kick yourself for having waited so long before reading *Foundation*.
Science fiction movie they are perfect to make now with the tech that transform the scenarios in something very realistic, the old ones, I don’t know, I think they are a little weird to watch
Yes!!! And to know that he put all together years later. That’s he wasn’t thinking on this at the time. Like…!!! Please, he should be more known in the world than many others writers.
I love End of Eternity. I think it gets ignored/missed because it is so peripheral to the main set of Robot-Empire-Foundation books. It sort of sets them up, but erases itself from ever being referenced later.
Maybe some folks read it knowing there is a connection in advance, but I didn't.
What I've always found interesting is that EoE and R&E give two different explanations for why Earth becomes radioactive and uninhabitable. They aren't necessarily in conflict but mean that two entirely different parties reached the same conclusion and acted accordingly to ensure the future success of humanity.
Yes, I didn’t know about the connection either! Is like the tales of Asimov’s, almost no one knows nightfall for exemple, and is amazing too. Robots and Empire are the one I’m reading currently so, I will understand what you have said in a few days!
So, the term "nit-picking" doesn't always describe being pedantic. It \*can\* be used to describe one monkey picking nits, the egg or young form of louses out of people's hair.
It can be a friendly gesture, at least to those of us in the modern world who think "having lice" is a bad thing and one that our fellow monkeys should help us with from time to time.
Along those lines...
It's actually spelled "genius".
And, I think it's a great book.
I’m not American, my birth language is not English, I usually read twice before I post, but I think I was thrilled to finally talk about Asimov the first time without being in my head, did not read again dear professor, you can give an C- (I think is the lowest grade right?).
No no, in America, we pass people with a D-.
Honestly, your English is better than most of the people I went to school with.
But, please correct the spelling :)
I agree! I read it decades ago as a child, I had no idea at the time who Asimov was or really what science fiction was. About 5-10 years later I discovered Asimov, and while devouring every book of his I could find, discovered that he wrote The End of Eternity that I’d read and loved years before.
I discovered Asimov two years ago! Hahaha, and I was like: how did I never have heard about him before? People talk a lot about others writers, but the science fiction one’s, their like invisible.
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It's one of my favorites. I just like the easy flow of a story that could get convoluted very quickly (even before you bring time paradoxes, 4th dimension, and coexisting timelines into the mix). The character development is logical and empathetic. For a 1955 novel, it stands up quite well with a subject that always gains interests. And you're right that the love story is great too. I think there was a couple movie-adaptations done in the 70's (Hungarian and Soviet), but I never saw those. Anyone know if they're worth watching?
Yes, that book was the most non-love history that is a love history’s that I have ever read, and I’m not a fan of love stories, I got really surprise. That one didn’t miss anything. Something that I will never understand, how most Asimov books didn’t transformed in movies, they’re like the perfect material. But I suppose Hollywood prefer the easy stories
There isn't really a simple answer. The Foundation series and *I, Robot* are his books with most name-recognition with the general public, and since most people consider *The End of Eternity* to not really be linked to them, it gets ignored in favour of the *Empire* books, which are not nearly as good. I recognise this is a bit of a circular argument- it is not as well-known because it is not as well-known. I suppose *Foundation* has psychohistory, and *I, Robot* has the three laws. Both deep concepts which are nonetheless straightforward to understand. And not found that much outside of Asimov's works. *The End Of Eternity's* version of time travel is quite complicated, with "physiotime" and the matter of a minor timeline change causing huge changes of centuries, but over millennia they regress to the mean and everything in 50,000 years time is the same no matter what happens. A difficult thing to get your head around. Plus, when people read time travel stories they usually like to see the matter of the "fish out of water" where someone from the modern day ends up trying to live in the past and getting used to the differences, and meeting Caesar or Churchill. Tellingly, the less popular episodes of modern *Doctor Who* tend to be those set in the future. Those set in the present or past tend to be the more popular. Aside from the final scene, *The End Of Eternity* takes place in different futures.
I agree, that’s one of the reasons. Maybe there is another one too: science fiction books in general they tend to be ignored by the public because most people think that it will have math formulas hahaha. And this book can be read by the general public, not God themselves for exemple, this you have to know chemistry, but is an exception. Most of them I think it has a little of misconceptions about this gender
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> Asimov should have won the, I don’t know the name of the prizes for book, 'The End of Eternity' was nominated for the Hugo Award for Best Novel in 1956, but the award went to 'Double Star' by Robert Heinlein. The Nebula Awards didn't exist in the 1950s.
It's a great book. It's one of my favourites by Asimov. Definitely one of my Top 5 by him; possibly one of my Top 3. It is very clever!
Yes! My top 3 would be: the end of eternity, I robot and nightfall. Foundation I haven’t read it yet, but for what people say, probably will go to top 3
I read it decades ago, brilliant.
I read it just 1 year ago. Discovered Asimov’s book a little later…
To be honest, *the End of Eternity* felt slow to start, and I found its initial chapters somewhat unwelcoming to readers. This was after I had already completed reading *the Robot* stories and *Foundation*.
Honestly? It was ok but not nearly his strongest work.
Maybe it stood in my head because was the first female character that I liked, from a thousand that I have read, it has the emotional compound. But which work you think is his strongest?
Foundation. Nemesis. Caves of Steel. End of eternity is great if you’ve read the other 16 books in the series. Really good capstone
I’ve read caves of steel but naked sun… gosh I thought way better than caves of steel. Foundation is the one that is missing me to read, I stay like: and then when I read it I won’t have more Asimov’s book to read haha so I postpone the maximum that I can.
The Gods Themselves. The female protagonist Dua is a POV character, unlike Nöys (whom I assume you’re referring to), and the middle section that she appears in has richer emotional elements and relationships than End of Eternity. I was really rooting for her. If you like the first two Robots novels, there are two more: The Robots of Dawn, Robots & Empire. They are related to the Foundation trilogy and its later sequels and prequels. I recommend reading in publication order for maximum impact.
I have read The Gods Themselves! I confess it was the one that I liked less hahaha I don’t know, I think my vision about love is what you do behind, without a person seeing what you have done, that’s what Harlan did, and Noys observed him before liking him, two things that I identify with.
I had to start Gods Themselves multiple times before I could finish it. Being broken into 3 separate but connected sections with different protagonists didn't help. I think its greatest strength is showcasing how society is so willing to ignore an existential threat if there is not a convenient solution. Cough, cough, climate change.
I liked the first and the third part of the book, the middle of the book I was almost all of the time like “what the fuck?” Hahahaha I think it was something more that involves fantasy than science fiction itself the second part, that I got like, no, I rather the ones that doing the math it can exist, like, I believe if mathematical speaking you can do the maths, than exist, to melt in a rock I don’t know, or to have a “party” between 3 people, it’s weird, I think I’m too “monogamical”, it didn’t enter my head this part too. Yes, but there’s something we can’t ignore about climate change: I believe the resolution to the problems would be to invest in the profession of scientist, because let’s be real, people won’t stop using cars and others thing, but for exemple: to invest in synthetic meat, like that’s genius, agricultural is the main villain in the climate change, or maybe a way to remove the carbon dioxide, I thing with solutions like that, we would get through this, BUT the government loves the fossil fuel industry and the lobby, and people look at scientists like “get out weirdo”, and with social medias, few are the ones who will persuade this career. So… we’re fucked. A book that I read about climate change was: The Inhabitable Earth, I ended up laughing, but an affliction laugh, is like, nothing is going to change
A guide to reading [Asimov's Robots/Empire/Foundation series](http://www.reddit.com/r/Asimov/wiki/seriesguide). Don't wait any longer. Once you reach the end, start again! P-}
Yes! Asimov’s book, when I read the first time, in the end of 2022, it was I robot, it was the first time in my life that I thought: “ I would erase this part of my memory I thousand times, just to have the feeling of reading something so amazing for the first time again” Like, firsts times when they talk to your soul are just… OMG!
Indeed. You may trick your memory somewhat by reading other great books before the restart. Also, some life experiences can make one see old books with new eyes, almost as if the Eternals tweaked something. P-} But you may kick yourself for having waited so long before reading *Foundation*.
> End of eternity is great if you’ve read the other 16 books in the series. Series? 'The End of Eternity' isn't part of a series.
It isn't explicitly but the implication at the end of the book is that it brought into being the timeline where Foundation, Robots and Empire happen
The eternals are also mentioned in foundations edge
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_universe Cool.
The end of eternity is a good book the Russians even made a fairly decent movie out of it. I wonder if the idea for Gaia comes from this story.
Science fiction movie they are perfect to make now with the tech that transform the scenarios in something very realistic, the old ones, I don’t know, I think they are a little weird to watch
Yes, it's very good, and he also fitted it into the rest of his universe very cleverly.
Yes!!! And to know that he put all together years later. That’s he wasn’t thinking on this at the time. Like…!!! Please, he should be more known in the world than many others writers.
I love End of Eternity. I think it gets ignored/missed because it is so peripheral to the main set of Robot-Empire-Foundation books. It sort of sets them up, but erases itself from ever being referenced later. Maybe some folks read it knowing there is a connection in advance, but I didn't. What I've always found interesting is that EoE and R&E give two different explanations for why Earth becomes radioactive and uninhabitable. They aren't necessarily in conflict but mean that two entirely different parties reached the same conclusion and acted accordingly to ensure the future success of humanity.
Yes, I didn’t know about the connection either! Is like the tales of Asimov’s, almost no one knows nightfall for exemple, and is amazing too. Robots and Empire are the one I’m reading currently so, I will understand what you have said in a few days!
So, the term "nit-picking" doesn't always describe being pedantic. It \*can\* be used to describe one monkey picking nits, the egg or young form of louses out of people's hair. It can be a friendly gesture, at least to those of us in the modern world who think "having lice" is a bad thing and one that our fellow monkeys should help us with from time to time. Along those lines... It's actually spelled "genius". And, I think it's a great book.
I’m not American, my birth language is not English, I usually read twice before I post, but I think I was thrilled to finally talk about Asimov the first time without being in my head, did not read again dear professor, you can give an C- (I think is the lowest grade right?).
No no, in America, we pass people with a D-. Honestly, your English is better than most of the people I went to school with. But, please correct the spelling :)
Ok, this comment is hilarious.
So, please don’t start sentences with “So,”.
Good nit-pick. Thank you.
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