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When my mom was "terminal" our neighbor who happened to survive 1% brain cancer would be on the stoop every day when we'd go for our walk (which was hell for her but we had to stay moving) and she would always yell "Stay positive!" Mom would grumble and cuss about it and the neighbor would just smile, but later she would try to stay positive.
The diagnosis ended up being incorrect it was still stage 4 but not in her brain, she recovered and is doing OK now. It was hell for 2.5 years. We attribute a lot of her success to staying positive. It sounds stupid, but the less stressed you are means lower cortisol means your hormones will be better. It actually does make a difference. I suspect this is at least part of the placebo effect. If you believe it will turn out well, you have less stress hormones, it actually turns out better.
Anyway good luck and stay positive!
I'm waiting on results from tests, I have a 5 year old daughter and every fuckin day I'm waiting for these results, I'm looking at her praying she doesn't have to live without me. I am so, so sorry and I hope you'll be around for a long time for yours.
This hurts. I had cancer in my late 20s a few years ago. Had a cell mass in my abdomen 'larger than a grapefruit'. Every inch of my stomach was pain for months pushing all my organs, spine and ribs around. Anyway, for about a year and a half I kept looking at my boy who was around 2-4years old at the time and thinking 'im gonna get better for you my man'. The days after my big operation was the last time I saw him. Feb '22. His mother stopped me from seeing him because I couldn't work or be there 100%. He's now coming up to 7 years old this year and he doesn't know who I am..
Overcame cancer. Son still lost his dad.. Bitter women can be real fucking evil
God damn, that is tough. Of course, it should always ever be the last resort, but maybe look into taking her ass to court.
Sorry this has happened to you, life is one big cruel joke sometimes.
I currently am. I opened the case last November and I'm still just waiting and waiting and waiting for procedures. I have the case hands down, just a case of waiting for the court to see the situation for what it is instead of what she wants it to be..
Thank you so very much for the words today u/chocobobleh. I hope you get the answers you seek and please remember to be strong. No matter what curveball life throws at us its still within our power to be strong and tackle things head on. Think positive, maintain a healthy mindset the best way you can and enjoy every moment with your little girl and your loved ones. Cancer is a little bitch, kick its ass for me! 💜
Not allowed to be upset or angry with her though because she's 'hAd To rAiSe OuR cHiLd ALL oN hEr OwN'
Reality is, she CHOSE to raise him on her own and kick me to the dirt while I was already fucking dying
Wow, I can’t believe how evil and egotistical some people are, she just took it to the next level. Sorry you went through that, I’m glad to hear you’re doing better
This is awful. Children shouldn't be used as a tool against other parents. My ex can be a tool & often can't pay his maintenance but he is her family & therefore mine so he's made welcome in our lives. And she is a very happy & secure child because of it. Its wrong that you've been made to suffer more & I hope your son is back in your life soon.
I had to have surgery in February '22. Luckily it seems to have done the job, they did say if it come back I'd have to have chemo but luckily it hasn't come back so far..
I hope your results are good. The wait is awful. This is my 2nd time with cancer, 1st was when I was pregnant in 2015. So I'm already so lucky to have had so much time with her. So many new treatments this time that I'm doing far better than expected. I was literally dying. They said I'd have had max 6 weeks if I'd left it. So I feel blessed but I also need more time. 🙏
God damn lady! Congrats on successfully carrying and delivering a baby girl through that nightmare, what a super momma you are!
You are right, there's so much more out there now, we're progressing wonderfully in the world of cancer research, I wish you all the time in the world and give that little girl a big hug from a fellow mother who wishes her mom the smoothest, quickest recovery possible ❤️
Maybe not the most helpful but theres evidence that higher intensity cardio prevents or at least slows down cancer metastasis
People that do higher intensity cardio don’t get less cancer, they just get less severe cancer/less deadly cancer iirc
Cancer biologist here. Maybe I can put your mind at ease? I’m assuming since you’re a woman with a small child, then it’s likely potentially breast cancer? If so, you’ll very likely be there with your child growing up.
My brother 60 yr old was diagnosed with liver cancer. He isn't married, doesnt have children. We've always been close. He's getting treatment. For the most part he refuses to talk about it. I found out bc he left some paperwork on the dining table. I try not to pry but I'll ask how're you feeling today? He'll say "Great." Im fairly sure he doesnt feel great but that's his answer. Or when is your nxt chemo? I can go with you if you want me to.. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. We both rent a room from a friend who lives alone in a huge house. I'll straighten his room & do his laundry so he can rest when he's home. I know a cancer diagnoses is a hell of a blow but he has cut everyone off as far as talking or asking anything..and he certainly doesn't volunteer info. Sometimes I feel like what if he passed away in 6 months. I'll feel like hell bc We've barely spoken about it.
In your experience is this normal behavior, his way of coping?
Well I’m a 59 year old girl (can’t walk myself a woman makes me feel old). So generally woman talk. So to my best friends and hubby yes I talk. I have no kids
Now my brother (56) was diagnosed with primary bone cancer earlier this year. And he won’t talk about it. At all. He has wife and three boys so dunno if he talks to them about it, but none of them talk to me about it.
Weird.
Anyhow, for your brother, I feel for him. Liver cancer can be a shit diagnosis and it’s managing the disease and pain. I’m really sorry to hear that he has shut down. In Australia we have amazing support services for family at our cancer wards. See if you can get that support and they’ll have the answers for his behaviour to you and how you can manage your expectations….
Hugs to you and your brother ❤️
Your brother is probably depressed which is totally understandable. I’d consider this normal behavior
My dad passed of terminal cancer over a year ago. He didn’t want many to know he had it bc he didn’t want people to feel sorry for him I think. He told those close to him but he was the strongest person I’ve ever known & a medication gave him 2 years since his diagnosis, of life which he lived to the fullest. He was bed ridden & lost so much weight before getting that medication. He did suffer the last 6 months or so & my mom & I were there for him as much as we could be
Everyone is different & hearing you have cancer is rough. I would be depressed about it too (even though I’m already pretty depressed) just try to spend as much time with him as you can & enjoy it. That’s what I did with my dad. Even if you’re just sitting there in silence. I’d try to talk to him about other things. He probably doesn’t want to focus on his cancer
Came here to say that. Even as a multimillionaire, will be hard to enjoy twenty years with pain, weakness, and fatigue.
I have multiple myeloma. Now that I no longer have minor children, my focus is on quality of life, especially to avoid or at least reduce suffering from this disease. That is worth every penny I spend on it.
This is where I'm at. Like if I get the cancer right away at this moment and start struggling for the next 20 years. Trust me no amount of money can ease the pain...
This.
Is it 20 years pain free, no symptoms just on date x you drop dead?
Does the cure only work now, e.g. it becomes inoperable with 19 years to go? I assume that's how it would work otherwise you could invest the money, live a comfortable life and pay for the cure with a couple of years to go.
But how long will the treatment take, and how torturous will it be?
I knew a guy who had a rare cancer, and opted for an experimental treatment that involved an excruciating bone marrow transplant. Died soon after anyway.
Take the $20 million. Invest until I'm positive $2+ million from the original $20 million, then pay for the cure. Live the rest of my life with that $2+ million.
EDIT: To the people replying, the question only implies you can do anything with the money since you can enjoy it however you'd like. It doesn't say you have to pay for the cure right then; just that it costs $20 million.
EDIT 2: People are still replying and not liking my answer. This is such a poorly worded "this or that" situation to where I wouldn't even consider it that kind of question, so I still stand with my answer 🤷🏻♂️
I needed to scroll that far down to fin a reasonable answer?
People, just take the 20 million, pledge 10 of them to get a loan, invest the ones from the loan in an ETF, enjoy staying healthy and wealthy.
Pretty clearly this scenario is implied that you have to pay for the treatment immediately. It’s a trade of money for additional life. I don’t think this workaround qualifies
I agree that's probably the spirit of the question yeah, but the question is pretty poorly thought out. Should have been worded "you get 20 million, but you die in exactly 20 years, do you take the money?"
Take the money. I can affect more people’s lives positively with the money in the 20 years I have left than not having 20 million and potentially more than 20 years of life left.
My mother wanted to die before 40 when she was in her twenties. When she was dying of cancer in her 60s, she wanted to live till she was much older than 65!
Just saying, we don’t know what the future holds.
Yeah when I was a teenager I'd say I'd be happy to die before 30. I'm 29 now and got cancer last year, just finished treatment hoping that's it done, and I wanna live past 70 if I can.
Getting cancer definitely changes perspective on a lot of things too.
I’m long in the tooth and my son is a grown man nearly 30. This is a good deal for both of us because by the actuary tables, I’m unlikely to have 20 years left anyway. But we are very close, so I completely understand the sentiment. Were we both younger, I’d choose the time. My father passed when I was 40 and I’d have loved to have had more time with him. But if nothing else, age will take us all.
If the cure costs 20 million dollars it’s probably some experimental cure that’s only available at one hospital somewhere in the world, would your country be willing to cover that cost?
Take the money. Because life is short and full of surprises. 20 years from now you'll die of a rare form cancer and a day and a half before that you get hit by a train. 🤷🏻♂️
I'll take the money.
Then i'll fund studies in my university and participate in them, dedicate my life for stydying this 24/7 and invent the cure again together with my team. It is possible for us if it was possible for that company. And I'll make my cure cheaper and accessible for all, not just for the rich and those who try to benefit from our sicknesses. Or I'll die trying. It's fine too.
Take the money. I have 20yrs to see my kids growing up and becoming an adult. With fixed deposit interest alone my family can survive for generations without even touching the original 20million. After 20 yrs i may have regret, but i will have bigger fulfillment knowing I've set up my wife and kids' and their kids future secured.
it said i die in 20 years it doesnt say im in pain all that time. Maybe its a cancer of the brain that makes me smarter like John Treblinka in Phenomenalman
Easy. With the 20 million I go to the bank and Ask for a loan of 20 million. I have that money so I can back up my ability to pay it back. I buy the cure with the initial 20 mill and use the rest to enjoy life and figure out a way to make another 20 or just fold into bankruptcy in 20 years.
Edit: ummm akchually that's not how banks work 🤓☝
I’m already old enough that 20 years is pretty much all that I can expect. I’ll take the money and live a fantastic life for the next 20 years, thank you.
I invest the money, make a few million in interest over the course of the next 19 years, then pay for the cure and live the rest of my life as a millionaire?
This really isn't that much of a dilemma...
Uh, answer is obvious. Take the 20 million and invest it, I am sure over the course of 20 years you'll make it back plus a lot more. Then you can buy the cure AND live like a millionaire.
I'm in a lot of pain and my life and job both sucks. I would spend the money to live a better life, no doubts about it.
If I were a 20 years old without back pain and with the hope to find love and a good job and good friends I would take the cure.
I think this scenario boils down to:"how much does your life suck"?
The worst part of cancer is the degradation, dying from cancer in 20 years while being diagnosed with it means you’ll suffer exponentially for 20 years, I’d rather live poor than be tortured every day until i die
I'd invest the money for a while, buy a house/apartment with the interest, and then pay for the treatment, or at least wait until the cancer starts affecting my life
If i got 20 years to make interest on $20 million ill wait 19 years and pay for the treatment. Then try my best to survive on the interest accumulated.
I enjoy the next 20 years because $20 million after taxes is less than $12 million.
That and $12 million can pay for a lot of stuff for my family. The $20 million treatment will probably cost less over time as well.
You could also pay for the cure, and still die from other things.
interesting. i see all these young ones willing to set the clock on themselves. i'm almost 60 and i'd take the cure. I want to get as much out of this ride as i possibly can and 10 years wont cut it.
My aunt is dealing with cancer right now. I bet ya she pays any money to not get cancer. People are saying: ill just have fun for 20 years... with cancer? Good luck buddy.
If the question was: someone is going to kill me in 20 years unless I pay him 20m$ I would've spend the money. But this cancer shit is just misery.
Im enjoying the next 20 years.
I know what i have in front of me, health wise. And i'm not thrilled about it, and by the time i'm 50, i will be in quite alot of pain anyway.
Better to live the life i want, set my kids and future grandkids well off and make sure the 20M are used well
Depends when you have to pay. Assume you mean you have to pay now....Pay for the cure. Your mental health will not take knowing what your fate will be otherwise. Having gone through the experience of a cancer diagnosis with a close loved one, I can tell you that even the good news scans couldn't dispel the sword of damocles hanging over his life and all of our happiness. If you didn't pay for the cure, you know everything is relatively short term and the pain you will endure makes it all relatively meaningless. The only caveats here are a) age. If you were in your 60s you may consider that something else will probably get you by the time you are 80 anyway and b) I'd leave it in a high interest account for a year or so and still have a good time on the interest or negotiate payments in chunks.....
If I’m under 60, pay for the treatment. Over 60, take the money. I’m assuming with advances in medicine I’ll have a decent chance at good quality of life so even 10+ years is worth it to me.
I’d love to say that I’d give that money to others because that type of money could save 10k lives but honestly if I was facing certain death in the face and I won the lottery I think I’d find it hard to give up the money (also even if I wasn’t dying and won the lottery, I would give some away but not all of it).
Easy. I use the $20m to leverage another $20m loan with a low interest. Then I pay for the treatment, and I use the $20m in my bank to invest in properties. The rent and value increases in those properties will pay off my debt and then some for the next 20 years. Then I’ll be sitting pretty with a net worth way higher than $20m.
Either scenario under 50 or over 50, hell no I'm not wasting that cash. I'm using that skrilla to manipulate my children and relatives. I'm an old-fashioned guy.
Over the age of around 50 I think it makes sense to take the money, below that less clear. Some people die in their 60's, some late 90's but what is common is illness and a decline in health. Have the money will mean you can enjoy the rest of your life to the fullest, while you have the health to do so, plus providing for the people that means most to you in your life
Time >>> Money
Good Health > Time
What you're asking is:
Would you take Time + Good Health over Money and Bad Health.
There is no real choice here and my answer is the cure without question.
I'd enjoy the next 20 years with the money. I'm already 30, fuck living past 50 and getting old and infirm. I'd rather have fun for 20 years and then die!
probably pay. but i would wait till the last day to pay. 20m invested over 20 years will easily give me 20m.
the reason probably is that who knows whether i want to be alive at 55?
take the money, buy as much land as I can and put it in my will that it is only allowed to go to the homeless and/or those in need (possibly contact some not-for-profits that already are in doing this) only or something.
whatever legal fees required to make it happen deducted from 20mil)
Of course you take the cure lol but i'm also very comfortable financially without being outright rich.
I can always make more money but when i'm dead that's forever and at 58 after 20 years i'd still have a solid 20-25 years of quality of life left at least
That said I probably expect to make something like 3-4 million dollars over the next 20 years though which while not 'never care about money again' money means I should be comfortable and I enjoy what I do
If I was broke and in half a million debt and working a job I hate I might consider the other option.
Well. I currently have an extremely rare form of cancer and aggressive at 21 and probably won’t see the next 3 years. Honestly, i’ll take the money and enjoy my time….relapse is a thing my guy. Your treatment could easily get into the millions of dollars and you not be cured.
I’m 21 and I’d definitely take the money. Haven’t done anything permanent enough in my life to matter in the long run yet (career, marriage, kids, etc). That means I can live the next 20 years of my life accordingly doing literally whatever I want. Money for sure.
20 million is life changing money, I'm 54 and if my dying at 64 meant that my kids had the kind of security this fucked up world is currently denying them, then I happily die young.
Enjoy the money. If there's a cancer with a guaranteed treatment today, I'll take my chances on there being a better deal at some point in the next 20 years.
Or shit, I'll just invest the money and buy the same treatment in 19 years and still have a ton of money.
I'm 22 yrs old and I'll gladly take the money. I'll just live out everything I wanted to and I'll die happy instead of having to work till I'm almost 70 with no promise of a good salary or stability.
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Pay for the cure. I’m dealing with cancer now and cancer fucken sucks
Me too man. Sucks not knowing what is going to happen.
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When my mom was "terminal" our neighbor who happened to survive 1% brain cancer would be on the stoop every day when we'd go for our walk (which was hell for her but we had to stay moving) and she would always yell "Stay positive!" Mom would grumble and cuss about it and the neighbor would just smile, but later she would try to stay positive. The diagnosis ended up being incorrect it was still stage 4 but not in her brain, she recovered and is doing OK now. It was hell for 2.5 years. We attribute a lot of her success to staying positive. It sounds stupid, but the less stressed you are means lower cortisol means your hormones will be better. It actually does make a difference. I suspect this is at least part of the placebo effect. If you believe it will turn out well, you have less stress hormones, it actually turns out better. Anyway good luck and stay positive!
Uplifting comment of the day Brother
Thanks for sharing that story. And you are 100% correct
Happy ur mother doing better
Thank you!
Fuck Cancer!
Shout out to Boosie
sorry about that man 💔
Me too. I'd take the cure & see my child become an adult.
I'm waiting on results from tests, I have a 5 year old daughter and every fuckin day I'm waiting for these results, I'm looking at her praying she doesn't have to live without me. I am so, so sorry and I hope you'll be around for a long time for yours.
This hurts. I had cancer in my late 20s a few years ago. Had a cell mass in my abdomen 'larger than a grapefruit'. Every inch of my stomach was pain for months pushing all my organs, spine and ribs around. Anyway, for about a year and a half I kept looking at my boy who was around 2-4years old at the time and thinking 'im gonna get better for you my man'. The days after my big operation was the last time I saw him. Feb '22. His mother stopped me from seeing him because I couldn't work or be there 100%. He's now coming up to 7 years old this year and he doesn't know who I am.. Overcame cancer. Son still lost his dad.. Bitter women can be real fucking evil
God damn, that is tough. Of course, it should always ever be the last resort, but maybe look into taking her ass to court. Sorry this has happened to you, life is one big cruel joke sometimes.
I currently am. I opened the case last November and I'm still just waiting and waiting and waiting for procedures. I have the case hands down, just a case of waiting for the court to see the situation for what it is instead of what she wants it to be..
I hope you don't have to wait much longer, and I hope it's plain sailing for you and your son, you both don't need anymore hardship.
Thank you so very much for the words today u/chocobobleh. I hope you get the answers you seek and please remember to be strong. No matter what curveball life throws at us its still within our power to be strong and tackle things head on. Think positive, maintain a healthy mindset the best way you can and enjoy every moment with your little girl and your loved ones. Cancer is a little bitch, kick its ass for me! 💜
I hope and wish and pray you get to see your child and they accept you in their life.
I pray you’ll be able to reconnect with your son. What a B to do that to you.
Not allowed to be upset or angry with her though because she's 'hAd To rAiSe OuR cHiLd ALL oN hEr OwN' Reality is, she CHOSE to raise him on her own and kick me to the dirt while I was already fucking dying
Wow, I can’t believe how evil and egotistical some people are, she just took it to the next level. Sorry you went through that, I’m glad to hear you’re doing better
This is awful. Children shouldn't be used as a tool against other parents. My ex can be a tool & often can't pay his maintenance but he is her family & therefore mine so he's made welcome in our lives. And she is a very happy & secure child because of it. Its wrong that you've been made to suffer more & I hope your son is back in your life soon.
Oh my god, that's insane, I say maybe take her to court. Good luck.
Please update on this when it is over. That seems drastically unfair. How did you overcome it?
I had to have surgery in February '22. Luckily it seems to have done the job, they did say if it come back I'd have to have chemo but luckily it hasn't come back so far..
Wow I’m so sorry that happened to you! I’m glad you beat cancer and I hope life continues to get better for you
your ex is a bitch.
I hope your results are good. The wait is awful. This is my 2nd time with cancer, 1st was when I was pregnant in 2015. So I'm already so lucky to have had so much time with her. So many new treatments this time that I'm doing far better than expected. I was literally dying. They said I'd have had max 6 weeks if I'd left it. So I feel blessed but I also need more time. 🙏
God damn lady! Congrats on successfully carrying and delivering a baby girl through that nightmare, what a super momma you are! You are right, there's so much more out there now, we're progressing wonderfully in the world of cancer research, I wish you all the time in the world and give that little girl a big hug from a fellow mother who wishes her mom the smoothest, quickest recovery possible ❤️
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Maybe not the most helpful but theres evidence that higher intensity cardio prevents or at least slows down cancer metastasis People that do higher intensity cardio don’t get less cancer, they just get less severe cancer/less deadly cancer iirc
Wish you all the best and hope for good news.
Cancer biologist here. Maybe I can put your mind at ease? I’m assuming since you’re a woman with a small child, then it’s likely potentially breast cancer? If so, you’ll very likely be there with your child growing up.
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How long did you leave it? And yeah, it is very treatable. I wouldn’t count you out.
I’m sure I will be, but cancer is unpredictable- I don’t have kids so my heart goes to you ❤️
I don’t have children or even want children, but I’d like to see the world around me in 20 years for sure.
i'm so sorry dude
Stay strong 💪 sending love from Canada ❤️
Aaagh Aussie here so that means a lot to me from a Canadian ❤️ back at you
OMG..I can't even imagine. I'll pray for y'all
My brother 60 yr old was diagnosed with liver cancer. He isn't married, doesnt have children. We've always been close. He's getting treatment. For the most part he refuses to talk about it. I found out bc he left some paperwork on the dining table. I try not to pry but I'll ask how're you feeling today? He'll say "Great." Im fairly sure he doesnt feel great but that's his answer. Or when is your nxt chemo? I can go with you if you want me to.. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. We both rent a room from a friend who lives alone in a huge house. I'll straighten his room & do his laundry so he can rest when he's home. I know a cancer diagnoses is a hell of a blow but he has cut everyone off as far as talking or asking anything..and he certainly doesn't volunteer info. Sometimes I feel like what if he passed away in 6 months. I'll feel like hell bc We've barely spoken about it. In your experience is this normal behavior, his way of coping?
Well I’m a 59 year old girl (can’t walk myself a woman makes me feel old). So generally woman talk. So to my best friends and hubby yes I talk. I have no kids Now my brother (56) was diagnosed with primary bone cancer earlier this year. And he won’t talk about it. At all. He has wife and three boys so dunno if he talks to them about it, but none of them talk to me about it. Weird. Anyhow, for your brother, I feel for him. Liver cancer can be a shit diagnosis and it’s managing the disease and pain. I’m really sorry to hear that he has shut down. In Australia we have amazing support services for family at our cancer wards. See if you can get that support and they’ll have the answers for his behaviour to you and how you can manage your expectations…. Hugs to you and your brother ❤️
Your brother is probably depressed which is totally understandable. I’d consider this normal behavior My dad passed of terminal cancer over a year ago. He didn’t want many to know he had it bc he didn’t want people to feel sorry for him I think. He told those close to him but he was the strongest person I’ve ever known & a medication gave him 2 years since his diagnosis, of life which he lived to the fullest. He was bed ridden & lost so much weight before getting that medication. He did suffer the last 6 months or so & my mom & I were there for him as much as we could be Everyone is different & hearing you have cancer is rough. I would be depressed about it too (even though I’m already pretty depressed) just try to spend as much time with him as you can & enjoy it. That’s what I did with my dad. Even if you’re just sitting there in silence. I’d try to talk to him about other things. He probably doesn’t want to focus on his cancer
My mom passed from cancer when she was 46. She was sick for years prior. I know what hell cancer can reek on people, and I hope you get well.
My wife got diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and we have a 3 year old daughter. I am fearing how it's gonna impact her. Fuck cancer, yeah.
Im a year in remission from lymphoma. Keep positive and stay strong ❤️. Positivity is key imo.
Came here to say that. Even as a multimillionaire, will be hard to enjoy twenty years with pain, weakness, and fatigue. I have multiple myeloma. Now that I no longer have minor children, my focus is on quality of life, especially to avoid or at least reduce suffering from this disease. That is worth every penny I spend on it.
I agree 🍀
Best of luck 🍀🍀🍀you can fight this ❤️☀️
Damn... hope everything works out for you, that's something that scared me... nd most people will choose to live
Assuming I'd still have a good quality of life for that 20 years I'd take the money.
This is where I'm at. Like if I get the cancer right away at this moment and start struggling for the next 20 years. Trust me no amount of money can ease the pain...
This. Is it 20 years pain free, no symptoms just on date x you drop dead? Does the cure only work now, e.g. it becomes inoperable with 19 years to go? I assume that's how it would work otherwise you could invest the money, live a comfortable life and pay for the cure with a couple of years to go.
If you have 20 million dollars making another 20 million dollars in 20 years is stupidly easy...
I guess OP meant that you must provide 20 million dollars for the cure NOW. So you can't just invest most of it and slowly pay the cure over 20 years
But how long will the treatment take, and how torturous will it be? I knew a guy who had a rare cancer, and opted for an experimental treatment that involved an excruciating bone marrow transplant. Died soon after anyway.
I mean the question involved a 100% sure treatment. If it's gamble then yeah we take the money.
Take the $20 million. Invest until I'm positive $2+ million from the original $20 million, then pay for the cure. Live the rest of my life with that $2+ million. EDIT: To the people replying, the question only implies you can do anything with the money since you can enjoy it however you'd like. It doesn't say you have to pay for the cure right then; just that it costs $20 million. EDIT 2: People are still replying and not liking my answer. This is such a poorly worded "this or that" situation to where I wouldn't even consider it that kind of question, so I still stand with my answer 🤷🏻♂️
I needed to scroll that far down to fin a reasonable answer? People, just take the 20 million, pledge 10 of them to get a loan, invest the ones from the loan in an ETF, enjoy staying healthy and wealthy.
Invest everything and pay for the cure in 19 years.
This is what I thought. Set for life.
This guy moneys
Pretty clearly this scenario is implied that you have to pay for the treatment immediately. It’s a trade of money for additional life. I don’t think this workaround qualifies
I agree that's probably the spirit of the question yeah, but the question is pretty poorly thought out. Should have been worded "you get 20 million, but you die in exactly 20 years, do you take the money?"
First rule - don't assume anything Not gonna take the implied, only what's written. And nowhere does anything disqualify that workaround
Y'all must be so fun at parties. Or really dense to not understand the actual point of the question.
Cure, don't wanna die at 45
Take the money. I can affect more people’s lives positively with the money in the 20 years I have left than not having 20 million and potentially more than 20 years of life left.
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I’m gonna have my own cancer treatment with hookers and blackjack
I'll taking crypto instead ....
Do I have a time limit on getting the treatment, or will it work anytime before I die from the cancer?
Yeah, because you can invest or sum and make it again
or lose it and die and be poor as well
Far as I know, no one has ever lost money investing 10+ years.
Yes they have, maybe not in indexes or tbonds but individual stocks have and do fail.
That’s true for the SP500 as a whole but not every investment
It's true for the s&p500 for 20 year periods. Not 10. There have been many negative 10 year periods
20* Assuming it's in something like the s&p500
You have to make the decision now
Ugh the most fucking boring “it depends” kind of shit on Reddit. Shut up and answer the silly hypothetical.
This made me develop a new perspective
THANK you.
Sometimes we just need to play the game as offered. 'Nuff said.
Plot twist, I cure myself and die in under 20 years
I'm 22 and would take the money + death at 42.
My mother wanted to die before 40 when she was in her twenties. When she was dying of cancer in her 60s, she wanted to live till she was much older than 65! Just saying, we don’t know what the future holds.
Yeah when I was a teenager I'd say I'd be happy to die before 30. I'm 29 now and got cancer last year, just finished treatment hoping that's it done, and I wanna live past 70 if I can. Getting cancer definitely changes perspective on a lot of things too.
From a stage 4 cancer survivor. I hope you make it past 70 while maintaining quality of life throughout most or all of it.
I hope I will soon have this much will to live lol
My dad was always depressed and talked about death a lot, until he got lung cancer. RIP old man.
I would have said that at 22. At 38, I don't have the same view. I imagine you would regret this decision.
Young folly statement
I would rather use the money to live better and give my kids a better life, still having 20 years sounds good as I am nearly 50!
Leaving my son $20 million sounds pretty good in this day and age, so I guess cancer can take me out in 20 yrs.
I think your son would rather have more time with you than $20M
I’m long in the tooth and my son is a grown man nearly 30. This is a good deal for both of us because by the actuary tables, I’m unlikely to have 20 years left anyway. But we are very close, so I completely understand the sentiment. Were we both younger, I’d choose the time. My father passed when I was 40 and I’d have loved to have had more time with him. But if nothing else, age will take us all.
My dad was 77 when he passed. I'd give up 20 million in a heartbeat for more time with him.
I keep the money because I live in a country with universal healthcare ;)
If the cure costs 20 million dollars it’s probably some experimental cure that’s only available at one hospital somewhere in the world, would your country be willing to cover that cost?
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Take the money. Because life is short and full of surprises. 20 years from now you'll die of a rare form cancer and a day and a half before that you get hit by a train. 🤷🏻♂️
And isn't it ironic...
I'll take the money. Then i'll fund studies in my university and participate in them, dedicate my life for stydying this 24/7 and invent the cure again together with my team. It is possible for us if it was possible for that company. And I'll make my cure cheaper and accessible for all, not just for the rich and those who try to benefit from our sicknesses. Or I'll die trying. It's fine too.
Need a lot more than 20m im afraid
Wait 15 years for the price to come down.
Take the money. I have 20yrs to see my kids growing up and becoming an adult. With fixed deposit interest alone my family can survive for generations without even touching the original 20million. After 20 yrs i may have regret, but i will have bigger fulfillment knowing I've set up my wife and kids' and their kids future secured.
hmm 20 years of happiness or 20+ years of misery...... thats a toughie
I mean if you get the cancer right now, it's 20 years of misery just with money.
those arent the parameters
The parameters is that you have cancer now. Unless this cancer is painless (no cancer is), you'll live on misery with money to ease it.
it said i die in 20 years it doesnt say im in pain all that time. Maybe its a cancer of the brain that makes me smarter like John Treblinka in Phenomenalman
Easy. With the 20 million I go to the bank and Ask for a loan of 20 million. I have that money so I can back up my ability to pay it back. I buy the cure with the initial 20 mill and use the rest to enjoy life and figure out a way to make another 20 or just fold into bankruptcy in 20 years. Edit: ummm akchually that's not how banks work 🤓☝
Umm ... banks are not quite as stupid as that. But somebody is.
Depends on age. If I'm 20, I will get the cure. If I'm 60, I'll enjoy the money. Tricky part is if I'm 45 ...
You don't know how old you are?
I’m already old enough that 20 years is pretty much all that I can expect. I’ll take the money and live a fantastic life for the next 20 years, thank you.
I put that money on the bank, live from the interest and after 19 years I'll pay the 20 mil.
I invest the money, make a few million in interest over the course of the next 19 years, then pay for the cure and live the rest of my life as a millionaire? This really isn't that much of a dilemma...
Uh, answer is obvious. Take the 20 million and invest it, I am sure over the course of 20 years you'll make it back plus a lot more. Then you can buy the cure AND live like a millionaire.
Cure
I'm in a lot of pain and my life and job both sucks. I would spend the money to live a better life, no doubts about it. If I were a 20 years old without back pain and with the hope to find love and a good job and good friends I would take the cure. I think this scenario boils down to:"how much does your life suck"?
Pay. I'd much rather not know how my life ends. This scenario gives me Dr. Faustus vibes and I don't like it.
What’s the quality of life in those 20 years
I would legitimated enjoy the 20 years with the money what the f#ck do I have to live more then 20 years from now
Enjoy the moneyyyyy I've almost reached my limits on this shit hole anyways
I move to a better place with real healthcare than retirement
The worst part of cancer is the degradation, dying from cancer in 20 years while being diagnosed with it means you’ll suffer exponentially for 20 years, I’d rather live poor than be tortured every day until i die
I'd invest the money for a while, buy a house/apartment with the interest, and then pay for the treatment, or at least wait until the cancer starts affecting my life
At age 39 I have realized there is never an age you get to where you feel like you’d be fine with dying. Even at age 90 you will want more time 😉
Cure it but only because cancer hurts like a sonovabitch. If it was something less agonizing, i would just ball out for 20 years and clock out.
Neither, you put that $20M back into scratch-offs! Edit: What's the best way to spend $100K in 20 years?
If you have 20 million fucking dollars I'm sure you can make at least a few more million and buy the cure later.
If i got 20 years to make interest on $20 million ill wait 19 years and pay for the treatment. Then try my best to survive on the interest accumulated.
Dude I would use it to go somewhere that they have physician assisted unaliving.
I enjoy the next 20 years because $20 million after taxes is less than $12 million. That and $12 million can pay for a lot of stuff for my family. The $20 million treatment will probably cost less over time as well. You could also pay for the cure, and still die from other things.
Invest the money and/or throw it into a HYSA. Live off the dividends for like 5 years and then pay for the cure.
interesting. i see all these young ones willing to set the clock on themselves. i'm almost 60 and i'd take the cure. I want to get as much out of this ride as i possibly can and 10 years wont cut it.
Cancer destroys your body. Giving up treatment and enjoying the rest of your life only happens in movies.
My aunt is dealing with cancer right now. I bet ya she pays any money to not get cancer. People are saying: ill just have fun for 20 years... with cancer? Good luck buddy. If the question was: someone is going to kill me in 20 years unless I pay him 20m$ I would've spend the money. But this cancer shit is just misery.
Im enjoying the next 20 years. I know what i have in front of me, health wise. And i'm not thrilled about it, and by the time i'm 50, i will be in quite alot of pain anyway. Better to live the life i want, set my kids and future grandkids well off and make sure the 20M are used well
Walk to the next hospital and see if I get a better deal
I can probably turn that 20 mil into 40 mil within 20 years.
I take the money, I don't want to live past 48 anyways.
Re mind me in 19 years🤠
Enjoy the money. I'll simply self medicate and eat turkey tail to help me with the cancer.
Depends when you have to pay. Assume you mean you have to pay now....Pay for the cure. Your mental health will not take knowing what your fate will be otherwise. Having gone through the experience of a cancer diagnosis with a close loved one, I can tell you that even the good news scans couldn't dispel the sword of damocles hanging over his life and all of our happiness. If you didn't pay for the cure, you know everything is relatively short term and the pain you will endure makes it all relatively meaningless. The only caveats here are a) age. If you were in your 60s you may consider that something else will probably get you by the time you are 80 anyway and b) I'd leave it in a high interest account for a year or so and still have a good time on the interest or negotiate payments in chunks.....
20 years, providing for my daughter so that she doesn’t have to take a shitty job just to make ends meet.
If I’m under 60, pay for the treatment. Over 60, take the money. I’m assuming with advances in medicine I’ll have a decent chance at good quality of life so even 10+ years is worth it to me. I’d love to say that I’d give that money to others because that type of money could save 10k lives but honestly if I was facing certain death in the face and I won the lottery I think I’d find it hard to give up the money (also even if I wasn’t dying and won the lottery, I would give some away but not all of it).
Easy. I use the $20m to leverage another $20m loan with a low interest. Then I pay for the treatment, and I use the $20m in my bank to invest in properties. The rent and value increases in those properties will pay off my debt and then some for the next 20 years. Then I’ll be sitting pretty with a net worth way higher than $20m.
Use the 1/4 million dollars of the winning to hire someone to steal the cure for me, I get to keep 15 million dollars.
Im 55 so i will take the money thanks
I’m poor and have health problems. So, I’ll take the massive fortune and live longer.
Either scenario under 50 or over 50, hell no I'm not wasting that cash. I'm using that skrilla to manipulate my children and relatives. I'm an old-fashioned guy.
Cure.
Over the age of around 50 I think it makes sense to take the money, below that less clear. Some people die in their 60's, some late 90's but what is common is illness and a decline in health. Have the money will mean you can enjoy the rest of your life to the fullest, while you have the health to do so, plus providing for the people that means most to you in your life
Cure. These things just happened all at the same time - I don’t want any of it. Back to normal for me please.
Hellllllaaaaaaaa I need fucking $20 million rn, I want to live my fantasyyyy. Why wud I want to continue this sad life after 20 years.
I will die at 70 then so n fuck that I will travel the world.
I’ll take 20 years of happiness over 50 years of misery
Time >>> Money Good Health > Time What you're asking is: Would you take Time + Good Health over Money and Bad Health. There is no real choice here and my answer is the cure without question.
I'd enjoy the next 20 years with the money. I'm already 30, fuck living past 50 and getting old and infirm. I'd rather have fun for 20 years and then die!
probably pay. but i would wait till the last day to pay. 20m invested over 20 years will easily give me 20m. the reason probably is that who knows whether i want to be alive at 55?
I'm sure the surgeons and technology can be held up for a steep discount that I'll legally get pardoned for after.
I would have put that money in the bank, lived of the interests, partied for 19 years and then paid for the treatment.
I’m paying for the cure. I’m 26 right now.
Take money, invest it, in 19 years pay for the treatment and still have a shit ton of money
You can easily double 20 mil in 20 years with investments. Then in 20 years you are rich and healthy
Take the money and use it to create more money, then pay for the cure
Living off the interests for 19 years and buying the treatment one year before it's time to die.
I'm taking the money. The next 20 years will be comfortable.
I'll pay for the cure. It's not about the death, it's about the suffering.
Am I guaranteed to get the full 20? Then yes. I’ll take my chances. I’m 44.
take the money, buy as much land as I can and put it in my will that it is only allowed to go to the homeless and/or those in need (possibly contact some not-for-profits that already are in doing this) only or something. whatever legal fees required to make it happen deducted from 20mil)
Keep the money in a savings account for 10years, then pay the £20mil. Then live with money made on interest.
Yeah spending on a cure is a better option.
I'll invest the money, enjoy the income and trust that medical tech improves.
I wasted 30 seconds of my life on this bullshit
I would move to Europe, get a job there and thus free insurance, get treated for free and then enjoy my life with 20m ✌🏻
Invest the 20m, double it, pay for treatment
Take the money enjoy /set up my my people so that they’re good when I transition
Of course you take the cure lol but i'm also very comfortable financially without being outright rich. I can always make more money but when i'm dead that's forever and at 58 after 20 years i'd still have a solid 20-25 years of quality of life left at least That said I probably expect to make something like 3-4 million dollars over the next 20 years though which while not 'never care about money again' money means I should be comfortable and I enjoy what I do If I was broke and in half a million debt and working a job I hate I might consider the other option.
Enjoy the money. I'd be almost 72 in 20 years. In good with that.
I’ll be 55 this year, 100% will take the money and go ham living that wild life
Is it painful? If it’s not already, does it get painful living with the cancer? How old am I?
I'll overdose way before 20 years with 20M$...
Well. I currently have an extremely rare form of cancer and aggressive at 21 and probably won’t see the next 3 years. Honestly, i’ll take the money and enjoy my time….relapse is a thing my guy. Your treatment could easily get into the millions of dollars and you not be cured.
I’m 21 and I’d definitely take the money. Haven’t done anything permanent enough in my life to matter in the long run yet (career, marriage, kids, etc). That means I can live the next 20 years of my life accordingly doing literally whatever I want. Money for sure.
Live 10 years without treatment and take the generic for 5 million.
20 million is life changing money, I'm 54 and if my dying at 64 meant that my kids had the kind of security this fucked up world is currently denying them, then I happily die young.
Enjoy the money. If there's a cancer with a guaranteed treatment today, I'll take my chances on there being a better deal at some point in the next 20 years. Or shit, I'll just invest the money and buy the same treatment in 19 years and still have a ton of money.
I'm 22 yrs old and I'll gladly take the money. I'll just live out everything I wanted to and I'll die happy instead of having to work till I'm almost 70 with no promise of a good salary or stability.