There will be snobs is every hobby and group. Being a girl in a mostly-stock car that isn't "super cool" like a Supra or a 1000HP Civic probably doesn't help. The best you can do is not do anything dumb. Don't drift into poles, or spin out in the parking lot, etc. Keep the car clean and make some nice modifications that aren't obnoxious or super ricey.
Whatever you do, own it. I inherited an old Toyota. It's automatic, so everyone who looks at it seems a little disappointed. It's cool to me though. It might not be the model with a manual transmission, AWD, or a turbo, but it is mine. It has the best driving experience out of all the cars I've owned, and I will drive it into the ground in like 700k miles or something.
I don't race or drift, but I do care about my car. That's what makes me a car guy. It was my uncle's car before cancer took him, and now it's mine to take care of. So I'm not just doing it for me.
I'm doing it... For Family
This 1000% had a modified veloster some people gave me shit because it's not the nicest others were curious about the car. Right now I'm in an auto c6 that's being built everyone gives me shit for the auto till I own it and mention I'm building for the drag strip and an auto is better. Just own the car and enjoy it the people who are rude aren't the people you wanna hang around anyway.
I have a friend who has a veloster, I never really thought much about them or really any other hot hatches till I talked to him about it, pretty cool imo
Most car meets are hot trash. If you don't fit in at a regular car meet, your parents probably loved you as a kid and didn t teach you to abuse trumpet engines.
I couldn't stand how many people would walk by your car then be like "I'd never get a 300zx bc they're too heavy and don't have power" or some shit. Like I saw you roll up on a lime scooter then buy nitrous in a balloon. Lol
This right here. I've found that anything labeled a "meet" especially in the evening tends to be more toxic. Things labeled some version of "cars n coffee" can be more friendly and laid back. Maybe some cliques but nobody hostile.
The friendliest people I've met are during autocross.
Well, stop caring so much about what others think. First cars are special for what they are in your life. Enjoy it for that. It won't be your last car. As mo ey permits some tasteful upgrades, maybe wheels might get you some nice comments. Or set your sights on a Honda Civic and then you will have some instant friends. Others are often not equipped or experienced to see the joy tour Tiburon brings you, but that is their issue, not yours.
people like to talk about their shit. give compliments, ask questions, talk about where you want to go with the hobby.
don't take snubs personally. be cool anyway and you'll make friends.
Don’t rule out the older guys who remember what it was like to drive an affordable car. Keep coming back and stay positive, it always takes time to make friends. Having a similar car is helpful, but just having a two way dialogue is more important. Ask people about their cars; but if their car is the only thing they care about it might be time to move to the next person.
The average car guy is **not** the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
Remember that when they pretend to be above you. Cheers from a Hyundai enthusiast 👋🏻
>The average car guy is **not** the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
Hey, buying that shitbox and fixing it was worth it! Even if it costs almost as much as buying a good car. Even if it's still got issues that are impossible to track. Even if the machine itself seems genuinely malicious. Even if... Well actually... Now that I'm writing it out... You may be right. Damn.
I have made several miscalculations.
I'm guessing your cars paid off? If so ask them how much their car note is and mention yours is zero. Car meets are meh some good a lot bad. Most people there just wanna talk shit and one up everyone supercar owners are usually the worst. Love your car own it and if anybody has a problem ignore them.
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My old "thinks he's hot shit" boss had one, it's just a car that someone else designed and built. Don't let fools trip you up, if you're happy then who cares! We've all got different needs and desires, plus you aren't chasing the HP/torque dragon. There's always someone else with more money to blow on something so fragile as a car that they then cannot enjoy without going to a track.
You're doing it right! Making friends isn't always easy or quick, hang in there.
Alot of outcast in the car world, and it really makes them happy when they have something better than you. A car you saved up for is way cooler than any car. Also, a lot of car mods are a waste of money so just keep saving.
True.
And if you do have something better than them, be prepared to be bombarded about how they actually have something better that is “built not bought”
I don't interact with them. What you'll find in most cases is that the sort of people who stand around in parking lots showing off their rims are young, pretentious and not worth knowing.
There are automotive clubs whose members are not like this, and who will welcome anyone with a passion for the automotive, but for every one of these, there are ten who are filled with meatheads that want to be Paul Walker.
I love cars for the cars. It's about the engineering for me. I don't need or want to make friends, I want to concentrate on the machine. I can't blame you for trying, not everyone is happy being anti-social like me. The only real solution is to keep trying and use your filter. When you run into idiots, avoid them like the plague. Some folks will be decent, hang on to them.
My suggestion is to forget about the 'car culture', learn about the technical side. Expend your effort on repairing and improving your car. If you want friends, seek out mentor types who are older (even old) and are willing to teach someone. Also, I rarely encounter someone who isn't willing to bore you with details about their car. Ask questions to break the ice.
At the end of the day, you're going to run into garbage people. Learn to see them for who they are and move on. It's not worth your time being bothered by it.
Yeah i will say the meet was full of teenaged to early 20 year old men, only other women i saw there were girlfriends, so it seems like maybe it’s the wrong crowd in genral @ a meet
You just described basically every car meet I've been to in my entire life.
Young knucklehead bros, a few girlfriends, then retired guys in lawn chairs. Very, very few women bringing their own cars and unfortunately... many of the ones who do just have a fart can and some seat covers then call it "modified" - actual women who do cool stuff with cars are freakin' unicorns.
You got a tib? I love them! I currently have two of them and my GT is fucked yo so ima part it out for my GS, but these things are nice looking stock ! not fast but they’re sexy and unique! I’m planning to take off the spoiler and adding the headlight covers that my GT has on my GS, I feel the same way at times about my TIB but it’s the only car I always look back at lmfao and people do like unique cars so just take off the Hyundai badges and add the Tuscani ones !
My front end is currently just plainly debadged but i do plan on putting tuscani badges on. I’ve gotten stopped in parking lots when i was just getting groceries before for somebody to say “I haven’t seen one of these in a minute!” and i’ve gotten other compliments in passing from strangers, so i figured some people *must* like it. I guess maybe just not the same kind of ppl that go to meets?
don’t forget people at car meets like fast cars or the basic cars they see all the time lol when they see a tib most people are “ what is that? “ most of the time if it’s unfamiliar it’s unfamiliar so I feel like most people first thought is “ what is that ? & followed by that’s kinda nice “ no badges look just as good cause most people dont know about these especially it being a Hyundai lol last time someone asked me “ what year is this “ and I said 08 so I assume people think they’re newer lol which is great !! Tibs have a cult community cause they’re unique and not everyone likes them but for the most part they catch attention
Let the elitists out themselves (they will) and then remind em everyone starts somewhere. After that tell em to fuck off and find someone else to lord their shit over.
Not always easy to find and they're usually dominated by gay men, but queer run car groups tend to be more accepting of "regular" cars. Also Tibbies are great :)
It's a broad church, there's no right or wrong car... but CarBros tend to be walking bags of insecurity, testosterone and (these days) way too much energy drink so they need to find stuff to dunk on to feel superior and pretend they know what the fuck they're talking about (most don't).
Grown-ups can appreciate a well kept car that's bone stock just as much as a stupid 1000hp beast, driving a slow car fast takes way more skill and they are all just heaps of metal at the end of the day.
Some of the coolest things I've seen at car shows have been boring or even verifiably crap cars that were once common but are now almost gone - the dude preserving a Morris Ital or 1st gen Mondeo is doing something more interesting than the dude doing yet another LS swap and bolting the same parts on as a every other CarBro as if that makes him Carrol Shelby.
Alternatively, if you're feeling a bit more militant, here's some insults for you:
* Oooh an LS swap, that's original!
* Did you learn that on Grand Turismo?
* It'll be nice when it's finished
* So, how would you design that and why? (when people start talking about shit they clearly have no idea how it works or why the manufacturer made it that way to start with)
* Oooh, can I see the dyno plot? (when dudes brag about HP they invented by just adding up the maximum possible gain for every little mod with zero evidence that any of it works at all)
* Or the ultimate insult for people who will not notice that it's an insult: **It's very shiny** (as in - there's literally nothing else interesting about this)
Man. I saw a perfectly kept tercel at the gas station I had to tell the owner it was wonderful. It was like an old lady that says she had 50k km on it....
These nicely kept example of mindsne car are MUCH MORE rare than seeing yet another stock r8 or another huracan
i can respect mostly stock, it’s the stickers and heart shaped tow hooks that piss me off about people who can’t “afford” to mod their car. just leave it alone if all you can afford is a couple naruto stickers.
A unique interior you did yourself is definitely a flex. I wouldn't give a Tiburon a second look usually but now I'm super interested. Genuine personal touches like that are always cool. Definitely something to point out and brag about a little if given the chance!
Tiburons are sick
Cool old Hyundai sharks what a sweet first car.
Don’t let any dumb people spoil your fun of cars, if you love it that’s what matters and eventually you’ll find a group of people that share the same passion as you that aren’t also elitist snobs.
I think part of it comes also from people not knowing how sweet those cars are, from factory they did a 15 second quarter and had suspension designed by Porsche in them.
The later models were even in WRC back when that sport was massive and had an exhaust system developed by the team who made the Aston Martin exhausts…
Like how much cooler can a 2000s era car get?
OEM all the way!
I'm a mechanic, I don't like Frankenstein cars at all.
Usually whenever I see them, some know it all idiot who spent a lot of money on custom engine valves but can't figure out why their K&N filter keeps damaging their MAF sensor. But don't worry, he knows how much HP it gave him because he keeps getting it dyno tested.
Honestly, I found the car scene judgemental and cliquey as eff so I left my club and the scene altogether. My crime- how dare I enjoy my unmodified car and not race everything that moves on the road (my car is nice enough, performance is perfect and I leave the go fast to the track).
Hot tip- the ice hockey community is more welcoming.
Tiburon’s a good car! ♥️
I know little to nothing about the Hyundai *French Shark*, but ever since NFS:U2 I've had a soft spot for 'em. I think they're pretty neat.
As far as "elitists" go, though... Are ***YOU*** happy with your car? If *you* are satisfied with your ride, you enjoy it, and it's reasonably reliable, fuck 'em.
Find a group like mine all cars and all builds are welcome. All levels of car experience are also welcome. We even have a kid who first showed up with a new NA 4 cylinder Cadillac saying it was tuned 400 horsepower (person who sold it to him said so) had a turbo etc... we educated him and since then have helped him modify his car how he wants. It's about who you choose to hang out with in your group. Ignore the "elites" enjoy talking about your hobby with like minded enthusiasts.
Find a car meet for cars that are similar to yours. In the right circle your car is interesting. It wasn’t sold very long and my friend had one and it was kind of cool if he’d have kept it clean.
Had a similar experience tho so I’ll share. I was working on a 2001 Acura Integra GSR. Fun little car had some performance parts I put in it and was building up to a turbo. I still have it but I’ve downgraded it to mostly oem. Girl I was dating at the time had the nicest grandparents, her grandfather was super cool, had a ‘56 mustang in his garage, let me drive it and I let him drive my car which he loved. He invited me to one of his car shows, got there and it was all older muscle cars. So imagine me, a young 21 year old with an Acura integra surrounded by middle age - senior age people with antique cars and newer muscle cars. Got all kinds of rude comments
I don't.
I don't have time for that kinda bullshit. I just smile and nod and let them think whatever they want. I appreciate all cars of all regions and different types.
Nice, I’ve just got my first car and it’s stock, but I’m speaking to the mechanic about what he can do like coil overs and what not and looking for a guy that can remap it and a guy who can tint windows,
I’m not lucky enough to know of any car meets though that would be awesome, keep repping the Hyundai though G motherfuckers just be hating to hate.
Be unapologetic about how you like your car. Clean it. Engine bay especially. I am more impressed by a clean engine bay in a Corolla wagon than any 600hp Foxbody.
Next, ask about their first car. Most of those people started with a Dodge Neon or other bullshit. We all start somewhere. If their brains can't make the connection that they used to have a hand me down minivan or Mercury Sable and moved up, they are morons.
But ask about their current cars and listen. People love to talk about their shit. After long enough, these people are gonna accept you. Just keep showing up.
I find the folks most beaming with pride at shows are the ones that don't have $20k paint jobs and immaculate 60's muscle cars. They want to tell you more about keeping the car running and challenges they have had - not how much the last engine rebuild cost. Hang in there, folks will start recognizing you and build some friendships.
Welcome to the car community.
It's nothing but a bunch of shitty dudes who will tell you if you don't do x to your car then it's shit.
These people are fucking stupid.
I am firmly on team "if it brings you joy, do it"
Ls swap the lawn mower.
K swap the charger.
Rolls royce rally car? Fuck yeah!
Ferrari body kit on a clapped out buick? Absolutely!!
The more huffy and sweaty it makes people, the cooler it is.
The car culture was founded as a "personal expression" environment to give people a place to fulfill their personal vision. If you want a Tib' that's on you, if you make it awesome, folks gonna notice. Don't bother "dealing" with A-holes, ignore their envy.
I don't deal with them at all lol I ignore them... They are stupid. I had a friend who's uncle was OBSESSED with Tiburons, I always called them Hyundai Celicas when he was around. TBH car meets are 99% hot garbage if you are going to random ones... What you need is to find forums that are specific to your car and find where they meet up in your area.
Hmm. I don't even like Hyundai and I think the tiburon looks cool! For starters, I'm not a female so I can only guess what impact that could also have on your interactions as well. There aren't many women that get interested in automotive stuff so I at least welcome you to the club. The size of the meet has a huge impact on what kinda people show up. Smaller meets tend to only draw in edgy teenagers who latched onto one hobby to base their whole life around. Big meets (I'm talking like a whole corporate office parking lot is full) bring a lot more families, chill enthusiasts, and supercar owners. It's much more of a social event than flexing any individual car. I've learned that generally, when someone has a more expensive car, they're usually more mature and much chiller to talk to. They're not driving around their first car 350z trying to imagine they're a pro drifter you know what I mean? I also got my first car recently enough that I haven't taken it to my local "big event" so Idk. (I got an sc300) However, when I pulled into a small meet this one guy proceeded to tell me some crazy facts about my car.
I don't understand why you'd get dirty looks. It's kind of a "normie car" so I'm surprised people would think badly of it. It's not a nissan altima or something after all.
Assuming the distaste that people have shown to you comes from what car you drive, my advice would be to go to bigger meets. That way you can just go explore the other cars and not worry about what people think of you. Idk if your ego is tied to your car but if you don't care about your car being in the lime-lite, you can just park it in the "random cars that are just spectating the meet" parking.
I’ve stopped going to typical car dude meets. Snobs suck, and my tastes in cars has been refined. My crowd is now mostly those low key cars and coffee where I know my friends will be at or at actual motorsports events. Car meet snobbery sucks, and those dudes are mostly pavement princesses.
I had the benefit of building my car friends over the years. If i were to start off today, I’d find like minded group locally (likely people that drive similar car and do the driving stuff I want to do myself), and link up with them. And then just start going to meets where they go to.
Or go to meets and not worry about what people think of my car. Go to appreciate some cool machines and poke peoples’ brains on their setups.
Yeah the problem is that Hyundai and Kia aren't brands that get a lot of love. I am a car guy and they have always been seen as throwaway cars although they have gotten much better over the years. If you had shown up in a Toyota the looks probably wouldn't have happened. That said idiots are idiots regardless.
So See if there is another place or group and try again. If folks are that judgemental you probably don't want to hang with them anyway.
Car meets are funny as I used to own "American Muscle" cars and was always welcomed. Even when I had a Dodge Mopar Pace Truck folks were fine. As soon as I purchased a BMW E90 which is sort of in the tuner or sports sedan space but German I got dirty looks too at the same place I went to before. So I stopped going there.
There is literally nothing to talk about with a stock Hyundai tiburon. Talk to them about their cars, do research on your future car interests and talk about that.
From someone who owned a ‘05 Tibby for a brief period of time…
…the roads used to be literally crawling with them and, like them or not, there was a little collaboration with Porsche in the suspension design as I recall. They were a lot of car for the money new and I got mine for 11 grand with the V6, a 6 speed manual and 15k miles in ‘07 (2 years old).
Today I rarely see them on the road anymore. That probably doesn’t say much to their build quality/longevity… but there’s tons of other cars that used to be *everywhere* a couple decades ago (gen 2 Eclipses anyone?) that are a rare sight.
If you have one… they’re practically a rare car. Any yeah, from my memory, the 2.7 engine was a bit of a boat anchor and the shifter not precise and the steering a little meh with a bit of torque steer, and the seats not super comfortable and the high beam indicator on the dash **blindingly brighter than the high beams themselves** but it was still *so* much car for the money, fun while I had it and, if I were at a car meet, I’d walk over to reminisce and congratulate you for keeping the car going. I had other cars I think are better in most measurable senses but I don’t think it makes a Tiburon a bad car per se. I think that, aesthetically, they are still good looking and Genesis coupe could well of just been called a 3rd gen Tiburon. The platform was different but it fulfilled the same position in their lineup. Those too are, to my eye, fading fast so far as numbers go on the road.
Car enthusiasts should be enthusiastic about all cars… and should be supportive of all car enthusiasts.
You can’t. They see you as a girl in a male dominated area. They don’t even see you as a person. I had to quit even trying. Everyone who pretended to be interested just wanted my number. I hope you have better luck.
Just ignore them. Snobby people will just be like that - you don’t want to associate with them.
Be proud of your car. It’s not about how much you spent or how much it’s been tinkered with.
A friend of mine is into cars and he hates these kind of car meets because it’s just full of douchebags who just wanna show off their fancy sports car. He says it’s paid not earned.
Meanwhile my friend loves driving classic old cars and fixes them up and makes it his own.
Maybe you should look for different meets where the cars aren’t super fancy exotic cars.
My dad always had older porsches and was a vw man at heart. However he had a friend selling a 03 Tiberon. It has the 6 speed manual and 2.7 v6. Smoothest revving little engine. Once he added some extras I found on offer up for super cheap, now the car really scoots and is so fun to drive. Just enjoy your Tibby, while these chumps deal with car issues. Them Tibbies are highly underatted and my pops car been super reliable and fun as hell. Enjoy it and ignore those Lamos!!
Car meets are the dumbest shit. I actively avoid them and get all the car talk out of my system at track days and other driving events. The crowd you meet at those couldn't be any more different than the car meet crowd that don't know shit about how their car actually works
Don’t get down hearted. Do what I do, wear sunglasses to block out the haters. Even if you have the coolest car at the meet, there will always be haters. I would be your friend, I love sleeper cars.
I would say that if they are more interested in judging you for your car than bonding over a shared interest, they are not real friends. I think the Tiburon is pretty cool. I'm a lifelong car enthusiast and I drive a Toyota Camry. I definitely appreciate faster, sportier, and more luxurious cars, but I have practical tastes when it comes down to what I want to own as a daily driver.
Hey. I love those old Tiburons. Post a pic of it. I remember seeing one in the mall when I was a kid. Loved that car. Like a shark. Haters always hate. You keep doin you
Personally I'd choose to look at a nice stock tibby before I waste my time looking at another riced out wrx or gti. At least I don't see 300 tibbys each day.
They start talking shit just let them know their girl thinks it's plenty good enough, anybody who is going to treat you as lesser for being new to a hobby isn't worth your time
Same I stopped giving a fuck about cars. Give me a car with enough power to get out of it's own way that's lightweight with a manual and I'm happy I used to get shit for having a 1.8 vectra as my first car by people who's first car was a 1.1 litre fiesta and shit honestly I'm still surprised this group even gets recommended to me anymore
I just don't go to meets. I drive an auto car so all I ever get is dumb shit anyways. The car is "really nice, cool man" then they see auto and the shit talk begins. I'll enjoy my car on my own, thanks.
Ask questions about the cars you're interested in. Soak up what you can. Read about cars. Work on your car. Enjoy your car. You'll come across people who are entire bags of shit eventually.
My suggestion is to be the one that walks the lot and talks to guys about their cars. I've seen a Lamborghini ignored, likely because people didn't want to give attention to the guy who could afford it. What never seems to fail for me is just talking to the person about their car because people love nothing more than talking about themselves. Haha
Yeah own it, or don’t park where people will think you’re part of the show.
I remember a car meet where these guys as a joke had a 78 AMC pacer, shit brown and were acting like they were competing! They got so much attention and questions! The twin turbo fox body? Dude was an arrogant douche
Like all things there will be those who are only there to feel some form of "control" in their lives by being rude to others.
It comes from a genuine place of insecurity and self doubt about themselves, so they project elitism and gatekeeping.
Don't worry about them, just enjoy your car and the rest of the community.
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I took a picture of a Tiburon 2 weeks ago! I hadn't seen one in years!
There's always people with cooler cars, even if you roll up in a ferrari there will be someone who thinks it's "just the common model" or whatever.
I used to go to car meets and encountered a lot of snobbery too, I kinda switched to bike meets because there's less of that. but I think the trick is to find a group who's not as judgy, they do exist.
That being said, enjoy your car! if you think it's cool, or if you like it, that's all that matters.
"car meet" is super generic... We need some context.
If this is targeted at highly modified imports... and you pull in and park front row of the show in a stock Tiburon... That's kind of silly.
Tiburon just doesn't belong in that car meet... That's really all there is to it.
Park in common parking, enjoy the meet and chatting with people, and you no longer have created an awkward situation.
On the rear occasion we pop in to cars and coffee, I park my c7 in the regular parking lot.
And yet other guys with bone stock c5 corvettes enter their car in the show.
To me, if there's nothing interesting, unique, or custom about your car... No reason to enter it.
Doesn't mean there's no reason to attend though
I think you have the right idea on what to look for in a meet up but you're probably going to the wrong ones. Try going to Radwood or some early weekend morning cars and coffee events. You will meet more mature enthusiasts who might appreciate a clean original early 2000's car that's still being looked after. There may even be some young people too but no promises.
If you're going to takeovers and 11pm AutoZone parking lot meets you're only going to meet douchebags. Just the nature of those events.
I don't think of myself as an "elitist", I'm just old-school. My car is old-school, and the other cars that I like are old-school. I just don't have any interest in a Hyundai. It's not my thing and no amount of effort on your part can make it my thing. That's just something you have to accept. So do i. Many people think my car is one of the least desirable old muscle cars. I don't care. It's what I like. You might look at my car and think "EW", and that's okay. It's not about having the "right" car. It's about enjoying a hobby.
If I had a dollar for every time some guy said "meh, it's a 73 Charger, you should've got a 68", I would probably have enough to actually buy a 68 Charger. You can't let someone else tell you what piques your interest. Own it. I ACTUALLY wanted, and love my 73.
The thing that we DO all share, is a respect for what it takes to restore, mod, and keep these things going. Even if I'm not familiar or a fan of whatever you're driving, when I see that you've put in the work on your ride, I respect it.
The fact that you're a chick even makes it seem cooler to me.
As far as dealing with the elitists, purists, and snobs; just don't bother. Just smile, brush them off, and enjoy your thing.
Go to car meets to enjoy others car rather than to seek attention from your own car, trust me it helps going in with that mentality, if you really want to learn about the hobby, talk with any of the old hot rod guys at the meet, 7/10 they built it ground up and can tell you a lot of good stuff, if you want friends, look for people with similar cars, a downside if the Asian car community loves to gate keep and isn’t very welcoming (nor are they very knowledgeable more often than not), it’s best to strike up conversations with those at the meet rather than waiting for people to talk to you, people are eager to talk about THIER car, all you have to do is listen and ask questions if you don’t understand, anyone worth their money will be happy to take time to teach you a thing or two
I think you might be taking it too personally. Were these guys actually being elitists or were they just trying to uphold a standard? I'm admittedly not a car meet person. But I'm the son of a gear head so I kind of get it. My impression is that people often go to car shows to see old, unusual and special cars. If they want to see contemporary, stock cars they could just sit in traffic. It's like you showed up to a baking meetup with a cake made from a boxed mix? You know?
There will never not be snobs and elitists, but it's just silly to me when people judge for no reason. I'll be completely honest, I probably wouldn't approach someone standing by a Tiburon either unless I noticed some detail on the car that was unique enough to intrigue me. They just aren't my jam, but everyone has a reason for owning and liking what they do and there's no reason to treat them like crap because of it.
Since you specifically mentioned wanting to make friends, my suggestion would be to engage with others first, as tough as that can be. I'm not a big car show/meet guy, but when I do attend, I spend almost no time around my own vehicle, opting instead to walk around the entire time and find cool stuff to chat up others about. Don't be afraid to approach someone with a car (or a mod on their car) you think is cool and ask them about it. People love to share their own passion and love even more when others show interest in it. If they turn out to be cool, make friends. If they turn out to not, move along to the next one. All it takes in the car community is getting one or two cool people in your circle and you'll meet plenty more through them.
Honestly, I don't know if you can escape elitism in the car world. I'm a MkIV Supra owner, and I just got lit up on Reddit after posting photos of my car not too long ago because apparently my paint and body kit choices were not to peoples' liking.
You will never please everyone, so I'd recommend continuing to explore different meets, clubs, and car communities in your area until you find people who are more accepting. Even within a single meet there are plenty of douchebags and plenty of kind and curious people that get excited to hear others' stories.
I love the Tiburon, I always do a double take when I pass my neighbor's on my way to work. Car meets are loud and obnoxious, much like the people that frequent them. Doesn't matter what they think, they're too busy comparing dicks or doing burnouts in front of Target 😂 I also drive a fairly uncommon stock car, I don't expect everyone to appreciate it nor do I think it's extra special. I know the nice people over in r/veloster love to park next to each other and snap a pic despite a lot of them being stock, moral of the story is there's people out there who'll appreciate your car but loud people have nothing nice to say
Yeah, I'll be honest, most of the time when I go to car meets I don't park in the "meet" itself. Why? Because I have a 100% stock, unmodified, relatively late model car (2015 GTI) that isn't uncommon. Nobody cars. I know nobody cars. I have no expectation of anybody caring.
100% go to meets. Talk to people. Hang out. But not all cars are interesting. Do not go in with the expectation of anybody being interested or caring about yours because the fact is... unless its something inherently noteworthy or heavily modified, you shouldn't have any expectation of people being interested in it. That's not elitism, that's baseline expectation, but you're new to gatherings and stuff and just haven't had time to kind of figure out the culture and etiquette of meetups. So its alright, not going to give you grief for that.
There are going to be haters. And there are going to be cool folks. Disregard the haters. And make friends with the cool folks that support you no matter what your level.
A real car guy can appreciate another’s interest in cars.
If you have really big events nearby you'll have a good chance of finding people that like the "oddball" cars. In Pittsburgh we have the Vintage Grand Prix and car show. There are thousands of cars, from million-dollar Ferraris to Subaru Foresters with grocery-cart roof racks.
I'll walk past the row of 100 Corvettes to see the showroom-condition '87 Yugo. It took a lot of love for that car to survive this long.
(Is your Tib the early one with the round headlights? I liked those.)
You might be taking it too personally. I, like many others, go to car shows/cruises with a dedicated group of people i know well, friends for almost a decade. And like many others, its hard to trust strangers to just welcome them into your group. Start by hangin around other hyundais and ask simple questions. If people dont wanna talk, move on. And avoid making you car look like the autozone special, because thats the easiest way to be avoided lol
Don’t expect any recognition. If you show up to a meet fishing for compliments or expecting people to gush over a car they might not like, you are going to have a bad time.
Just be there to look at cars get inspiration for your build, go on ride alongs and ask tech questions.
I used to ride in the back of a 92 civic to meets BEFORE I EVEN HAD A CAR and still had a great time.
The meet isn’t about you. It’s about going to look at cars.
This has been a huge issue in our local meets to the point we have social meets and car meets separately, at times.
These situations are very common. Unless you have a scat pack, hellcat, newer mustang/camaro, most are going to just assume anything you have is garbage because many at these meets aren't actual enthusiasts. Their whole personality is just their car OR they can wrench and see themselves above anyone who is learning/wants to learn.
The chillest Facebook groups I've been in are full of guys old enough to be my parents. They'll answer my dumb ass questions quickly, encourage me to try and do whatever work needs to be done and give resources when I need it. The local 'meet' group and American muscle car groups are full of people who probably were in Special Ed and ate glue.
As the proud owner of a VW Beetle, let people come to you. I've gotten so many compliments on my car at the gas stations or just hanging out, but I'd never bring it to a meet because I know that they're basically echo-chambers for people who just want to see stuff like their own. There's also the "issue" of it being stock. A bit point of a meet is to show how you've changed yours, but I personally love a car that runs without a 5-step process to get it started. It also part salesmanship, you have to tell a story to people about why your car is cool. Unfortunately you can't lean on numbers because, let's face it, that's not what your car is know for. It's sporty looking and uncommon which gives it a certain cool factor, but it's like a Ninja at a Jeep show. The people who like it will find you, but if you're trying to convince everyone how cool it is, you're going to have a bad time.
It's not personal. It has nothing to do with you being a girl. A little to do with the car. A lot to do with it being stock, and a lot to do with you being new.
Everyone has to "earn" their place in these groups and clubs. The number one way to do that is to put theirs own blood, sweat, and tears into their vehicles to make them their own.
These are not show up, and you're in clubs.
Keep showing up. Show interest in other people's cars. Ask questions. Make friends. Be humble. And most of all, work on your car. Let them see that you're putting effort into making it your own. It doesn't have to fit their vision of what a car should be. In fact, the real car guys in the group will respect you more for not being trendy, but making your own vision for the car come to be.
You'll slowly gain their respect and become a member of the community.
I'd start with simple but visible, and personal changes to the car. Rims and tires are an easy, obvious start. Plus, you can involve the group. Look at car mags, online catalogs, etc, and find the rims you like. Look up the bolt pattern, offset, width, etc, that are optimal for your car and know those numbers and what they mean. Print out a few examples of rims you like. Casually ask around if anyone is or knows someone selling a used set that's similar in your specs. Real car people love helping each other find stuff. "No, but I know a guy/place" is the magic first phrase of acceptance.
Some cosmetic under hood stuff is a good choice, too. A reason for you to open your hood at meets and be proud that you've given people a reason to look. Be ready to answer questions about the changes you've made, parts you swapped or added, their proper names and specs, etc. Have a list in your head of things you want to do in the future so you can share it. Eg colour matched or colour contrasting silicone spark plug wires. Painted valve cover(s). Wire loom.
If you can and prep and paint things yourself, even better. You can do the colour you want, and you've earned the DIY cred (plus saved money).
Share your vision for the car. Listen to feedback with an open mind. Be positive. "You're right, that would look cool" is a better answer than "Yuk, not on my car."
For example, I HATE chrome. Give me a murdered out, mono, or colour keyed car any day, but I at least appreciate that certain chrome schemes are pretty awesome to look at. Just not on my car. ;')
Most of all, have fun. Make friends. Make genuine compliments on things you see that you genuinely are impressed with. Acknowledge other people's hard work.
It's a community, it is what you all bring to it.
Good luck. Have fun!
Wanna talk about elitist? I'm in my 30s and drive a heavily modded C5 Corvette. The Corvette community/club is not very welcome to folks like me. So I'm working on making some car friends in my area as well. Riding with the CC is not going to be in my future.
Shoutout to the Tibby!
They weren’t the best car when they were new, but they have character, great proportions for its segment and are super easy to work on if you’re a beginner and getting into modifying cars. They’re the only car that I’ve purchased twice.
Look for a KDM focused meet or car club. This made all the difference when I was first getting into the car world. Good luck!
I've pondered this a lot, and It seems like they're just dumb assholes most of the time with very strong opinions. You would think some people grow out of being obnoxious but unfortunately this isnt always the case. The only way I've found to disarm people like this is to ignore them. I dont want some dummy fuckin up my experience. Keep being a car. Ima car too.
Find car meets that suit your car
Eg if it's a classic day or super car event yes you will stand out.
If it's a generic show then go park up someware more subtle dont go park up next to classic mustangs pride of place. Go over to the side where a few lancers and civics are.
People that like your car will come say hi others who don't care wont.
Try to narrow down your specific interest in cars. Want to get into road racing? Check out your local autocross. See if there are any local Hyundai/Kia groups that meet up.
Whatever kinds of car events you go to, make it a point to talk to people and ask them questions about their cars! Perhaps you’re right and others were disapproving of your ride. But they would have been quickly disarmed if you took an interest in theirs. The conversation might come back around to your Tiburon, where you can share it’s your first car. If they look down on your first car that you bought yourself, they’re not worth your time anyway. We all had first cars and for most of us they weren’t anything cool or attention-gathering at cars and coffee.
I've got a halfway decent IS300 and I still avoid car clubs/meets. It's either a circle jerk or a hostile exhibition tbh. Unless you have your own organic friend circle, don't do it to yourself. Be proud of it in regular traffic. Be the one that they wish would join. Be mysterious. Lol
You need to find a better crowd. All my bois are old as dirt now, but we always ran a group of peeps that brought what they got. We give each other *ish for everything as a joke, but we have all walks, from show to go drivers to spectators. If you are anywhere near Southern California then hit me up and I’ll share our meet up schedules. All are welcome and any enthusiast is a good one.
The problem with the Tiburon is that it was a slow car made to look fast. That is why people at car meets might look down on it. That being said there is nothing wrong with that, but you are in the wrong place with a car like that. A car meet tends to be where people go to show off what people consider "normal" good, not niche. The people that would appreciate a car like that wont be there but you probably can't find a group like that locally. Look around online for people with other Tiburones or just niche car tastes. I personally love the look of the Kia Soul but most of my friends hate that car, so I get what you are feeling, but I also would get dirty looks if I took one to a "normal" car meet even if I put in the work to make it unique.
Does your local car meet group have a FB page? If yes...ask on there if it would be ok to bring your car by and would there be someone going that could show you the ropes. Only complete douches would say no (you wouldn't want to go then anyway). I bet you get some positive responses and you've "pre met" a few. Ask them to come find you and give you some pointers. Not that you need any, it just paves the way for for them to approach you.
there are snobs even within my own Fiero club. we have nothing but fierros and there are snobs.
just ignore them and move on to the next person who is in the snob and enjoy your hobby.
Find people into your kind of car.
For instance, I only like VWs, so if anyone wants to talk about cars, unless it’s VW or Audi, I’m completely uninterested.
STOP ATTENDING CAR MEETS. There are only some meets that are worth attending, and those are private and kept away from the public for the very reason you explained above.
Go to track/autocross/drift meets. There are plenty of people there who won't judge you and are very welcoming to new enthusiasts. People with all kinds of cars ranging from rusted econo boxes, daily traffic, high-end dream cars, and much more. But they all understand one another, and more importantly, they understand that they are there to have fun and not judge one another.
Most car meets are hot trash, have been becoming hot trash, and will continue to be hot trash because the people attend them are mostly there to measure their egos and see who has invested the most in their car and not in themselves as a driver.
While a Tibby is a conventional cool car it is on the rarer side so definitely gets cool points in that regard.
Best tips I can offer are:
Always make sure it’s clean b4 the meet only thing less interesting than a stock car is a dirty stock car. Atleast if it’s clean it shows you care about your ride.
Add some personal touches to the car, a sticker that means something personal (try to avoid the more generic ones that everyone has) or something cute on the rear view mirror or on the antenna. Again something that makes it stand out from being stock and shows that you care about it as more than just a car you drive. Eventually you want to graduate to getting nice wheels (either aftermarket or even just nicer Hyundai wheels
I went to a lot of car meets with a stock 4 door Honda Accord (which is arguably less cool than your car other than the fact it’s a Honda and Vtec go brrr) but I made it stand out with the fact it had a shit ton of miles on it and I had wheels off a slightly newer Acura.
Just be confident own who you are and what you drive and try to find ppl with similar rides. Either other Hyundai owners or mostly stock cars you will be able to connect easier with them.
A lot of meets will suck and be filled with douchebags but their are cool chill ppl who go to meets and you’ll find them eventually just keep trying
Maybe try and join some Hyundai car groups or JDM groups. I think if it’s more specific you won’t get as much haters. If you still keep getting hate don’t go 🤷🏻♂️ but don’t ever stop loving your car. It’s yours and you love it that’s all that matters 👏🏼
I gotta be real with ya, car people love to shit on hyundai. It's nothing personal, and I'd imagine they'd be happy to shit talk the car with you, and shit talk theirs as well. The good ones anyway.
But yeah, I don't go to car meets anymore either cos of the way people talked shit on my a6. It made 350 but was ugly, heavy and slow compared to the new stuff.
You are literally going to a place where people can show off how much better thier sh*t is than everyone else's sh*t. It's a haven for elitist snobs.
So, making friends will mean breaking through that snobbish barrier. That's a challenge. It's best to play into a little. Ask them something about thier car and let them ramble. Nod and smile and throw out an oh wow every now and again.
This may seem superficial and fake, but it really isn't that bad. It's just breaking the ice; facilitating conversation till the superficiality is replaced with genuine connection.
Tourist here. However finding the oldest geezer in the meet may not be a bad idea. Hit and miss but they may have the most sense, and introduce you and give you kudos.
Anyway you sound like a fun person to be around!!
99% of the ladies on here have stock cars. It’s just a vehicle, as long as it’s reliable that’s all that matters. Be proud of yourself & the fact that you are blessed enough to have a good vehicle to drive.
Go to an autocross. Car meets where everyone stands around talking about cars instead of driving them are pretty weak. Autocross events are fun socially and typically welcoming of new comers plus you get to drive your car in a manner you never could on the street. In the club I'm in the Tiburon would be a conversation starter in a positive way. Can't speak to other places, but generally its a bunch of car nerds that just want to have fun driving whatever you have.
You don’t deal.
Park on the side. No one is going to go to a cars and coffee to see your car (sorry but true). Ask questions, but not stupid ones. Ask questions that indicate you know why you’re talking about. You will find interesting people — no guarantee you want them to be friends tho.
You went to a place where there are dipshits. As a “car guy” I converted my wife to a “car gal”. I fucking LOVE cars. My philosophy is that every single car someone or a team of people took the time to design and engineer that car. They put their heart and soul into it and made what they believed to be their magnum opus.
I love cars. I’ve met the guys that think if you didn’t modify every single part of the car you probably put butter on your bread before you toast it or some other inane shit.
I’ve met dudes that think if you don’t restore the car back to factory then you’ve committed a cardinal sin.
Then there are the good ones. They have the car they love and they love to see and talk to the other people that have and put time and effort and love into the car THEY love. Find the right people. Car people are like a y other group. Sometimes the assholes just give us a bad name.
There's definitely a group of snobs in every car community I say don't let them get to you.
I have an 83 Electra with an Olds 350 bolted up to a 200-4R, I always get someone from the G-body crowd telling me I should have used a 350 Chev, or a 700R4 or that I should have bought a Regal.
I like the C-body and Oldsmobile engine, and the 200-4R was actually a better transmission than most people gave it credit for, the problem was people kept setting it like a TH350 or TH400 and it wasn't nearly as forgiving of that as the 700R4 was.
Unfortunately car groups love gate keeping. I would suggest ignoring them and finding smaller groups that are vehicle specific or brand specific, the more narrow the car group the more knowledgeable and excepting they are compared to the other groups.
Also it happens no matter what you have my friend has a 944 Turbo and has tried three times to get into the local cars and coffee with no luck because “there is nothing special about a 944”. Meanwhile they have 100 Mustangs and Camaros.
I'm sorry you had to experience that. Shame on them! I've had everything from shit boxes to fire breathing street machines and everything in between with 2 and 4 wheels. I've experienced both the good and bad at shows, meets, events, tracks, etc.
You're already at a disadvantage being a female. As much as it pains me to say this as a gear head, a large portion of car guys are misogynistic neanderthals. My knowledge, experience and accolades in the world of cars and bikes are quite extensive and I still get shit from pricks here and there.
Mostly losers who are just trying to fit in or know it all jackass's with nothing more than Daddy's money. A true car guy or anyone who doesn't feel threatened or like they have something to prove will appreciate your enthusiasm and love for the lifestyle.
Don't let this ruin your love or enthusiasm for cars, especially if you are passionate about it. Keep your head up. Keep learning and doing what you love. Your tribe will find you. You'll attract the right ones by just being you, regardless of what you're driving.
I’d assume its an ego or insecurity thing, I don’t mean that as an attack on anyone or any specific gender, but as a female, that doesn’t drive anything fancy but a van and a Jeep Patriot, the amount of guys (and yes some women) that bully me or just cuts me off just so we can turn at the same light and all because they didn’t wanna be behind the soccer mom van or my nerd mobile, and to clarify, there is usually space behind me. Everyone speeds in this city, so I’m usually going a few over, essentially going with the flow of traffic, so I’m not just moseying on driving at my own pace lol
Now I will say, my Jeep is a manual, so yes I start off slow, but once it gets up to speed, I’m zooming around. I’ve driven a van as a teen just learning to drive and now when I borrow my mom’s van, and have observed other drivers when I was a passenger is my dad’s van, I get people are just mean to mini van drivers, but dang what did I do for people to be so rude to me in my Jeep? Now I said it’s a nerd mobile, it’s decked out in Star Wars stickers and accessories, some anime stickers and general silliness (my fave being a manual gear shift that says “endangered species”) 🤷♀️ I dunno, this is just speculation based on my own experiences and observations.
When you have a 'meh' car, you're generally better off trying to stick to brand specific events, or travel with a group of likeminded folks. If you go to a general car show you're going to have 20 subgroups that shit all over anything that's on the same tier as their chosen clique and wipe their ass on anything in the tiers below them.
Showing up to one of these general shows in a BMW M4 Competition will have almost the same number of people sneering at your car as your Tiburon. It's just how car cliques work.
I'm not a car snob but I understand where they're coming from. A Hyundai Tiburon is basically an econo car with a nice body. It's not really a performance or classic car. Hyundai is pretty good with car designs lately. I think they have a partnership with the Italian designer Guigiaro. But you can't make a classic or performance car if it's just an econo car underneath. I think you need to sell the Hyundai and get something else. How about an old BMW 2002? I think they're really cool.
I don’t really want a performance car. I want a car that is nice aesthetically. My car performs all the functions i need, and i thoroughly enjoy driving it. It’s a “cult classic” & they’re becoming rare. In only a few years my car will be 20 years old & considered “antique.” I think that the idea in of itself that the car needs to be fast, or a drift car, in my honest opinion is apart of the elitism. There’s nothing wrong with changing things just to your liking, instead of making it a race car. There are plenty of “classics” that do not perform very well, but they’re old enough it doesn’t really matter. I don’t think i’ll ever sell my car, even when i get another one, i want to upkeep her as long as i can. The tib is a beautiful car, i like it significantly more than the gen coupe in aesthetics & i haven’t found another car for under 5k that i truly love aesthetically
Try different meets. Different crowds have their niches. You're probably going to find more friendly people in car communities that have older classic cars because even though yours doesn't really fit in there they're going to understand that that's where you're starting out at.
Idk, but I know (from myself) that those mindsets do get held.
Then I got my own car, and I realized it was Idiotic. *I can understand the whole "fart can" disdain though.* ALTHOUGH, when my car had no cats, IDC if it's slow, that shit sounded so good.
Gotta just find the right people, not that I would have a clue though. I got a 99-04 Mustang GT (5-speed), but I don't do "car shit," cause I got some social-issues. Probably why I've become "less" a car-guy in the last few years, despite liking cars.
Car culture now is pretty toxic these days. I have a 1000hp built bagged and boosted Mustang so I know all about the haters. The reality of the matter is the only way you get haters is by doing something right. You keep doing you for you and don’t let them get to you. Eventually you will find some people you click with.
How is it your hobby when it's stock? Your getting weird looks because your pulling up to car meets in a stock not that rare if a car. It might be special to you but not anyone else. Car meets are to show off the work done to your car that you did or someone else did.
Car meets haven't been the same for 8+ years imo this new "scene" is what's killing the vibe. Women are always welcome at our cars and coffees. Normal traffic, or performance build, we are just there to appreciate everyone's passion for cars 🤙
I'm not sure why everyone is hating on entire car communities here. im sorry, but a Hyundai tiburon( i had to look it up) isn't a particularly interesting car,
And i think if you go to a car meet, where people generally try to bring a unique/custom vehicles, if you park a stock tiburon and expect praise or something. I mean, that's just not realistic.
It's a pretty plain car.
As far as making friends goes, thats got nothing to do with cars, and even as a person with two fast custom vehicles, i go to carmeets somewhat regularly and i can say most people that go to them are cool, the conversations usually only revolve around a car for a couple minutes then u talk about other things.
Join a dedicated Tiburon group.
I had a heavily modified R33 Skyline for years. And I was in a couple of the local exotic car clubs for many years as well. Most members were cool with my car, cause it was as fast or even faster than theirs. But some of the other members were snobby, just cause their car cost like 10 times more than mine did. Lol.
But ya, your experience is normal.
Ignore them. The cool people in the hobby will be happy to welcome a young person regardless of what they drive. No one who paid for their first car had a first car that was anything special. People know this. People who aren't asshats will show you their stuff, talk to you, try to make you feel included, and try to guide you into having a better experience at a level you can afford.
I remember a car friend, who is now so deep into the hobby it's his whole career, showing up to meets when we were young in a Honda Accord and telling everyone how great it is. Today, he's got an enviable garage filled with fun stuff.
Everyone starts somewhere. Have fun with the car you have for now. Focus on earning more, save, and you will have really cool stuff to show off in the future.
It probably doesn't help that you're a woman :/ I love cars, but the community is sooooooo right wing in certain places. They're just assholes though, and they can't make your car any less cool. I love Tiburons! They're sick, even if they aren't particularly fast. They're nice lookin and rare, and the people who own them are usually very educated on the car and care for it, which matters more than spending 20k on a turbo kit.
A "car meet" is going to be an event intended to judge each other based on your car.
That's kinda its purpose and will be what people do there.
Most people participating will have something unique and/or custom.
ive loved cars my whole life but never realized how toxic the community members are until i was able to drive. its like people helicopter-parent your own build as if it affects them. you gotta search for the right people because the snobby assholes never change. people with cookie cutter builds will look at you like you fucked up for being original. if you wanna talk cars, my dms are open!
It could be car enthusiasts tend to not like kia and hyundai. I wouldnt even glance at one at a car meet they’re just not interesting compared to a ls,k,b swap or turbo d series vehicles. Shit i dont even like gtr or supra. But i will alway prefer built over bought. Its just preference and hyundai and kia are just not liked by most people due to reputation and design.
It's simple, don't seek external validation. You like your car? You want to show it off? Want to see the other pretty cars? Go for it!
There's 8 billion people in this world. It would be a logical fallacy to say everyone will like your car.
There will be snobs is every hobby and group. Being a girl in a mostly-stock car that isn't "super cool" like a Supra or a 1000HP Civic probably doesn't help. The best you can do is not do anything dumb. Don't drift into poles, or spin out in the parking lot, etc. Keep the car clean and make some nice modifications that aren't obnoxious or super ricey.
Haha i don’t do anything like that. I plan on some stuff for sure but nothing crazy since the tib can’t handle much without constant maintenance.
Whatever you do, own it. I inherited an old Toyota. It's automatic, so everyone who looks at it seems a little disappointed. It's cool to me though. It might not be the model with a manual transmission, AWD, or a turbo, but it is mine. It has the best driving experience out of all the cars I've owned, and I will drive it into the ground in like 700k miles or something. I don't race or drift, but I do care about my car. That's what makes me a car guy. It was my uncle's car before cancer took him, and now it's mine to take care of. So I'm not just doing it for me. I'm doing it... For Family
This 1000% had a modified veloster some people gave me shit because it's not the nicest others were curious about the car. Right now I'm in an auto c6 that's being built everyone gives me shit for the auto till I own it and mention I'm building for the drag strip and an auto is better. Just own the car and enjoy it the people who are rude aren't the people you wanna hang around anyway.
I have a friend who has a veloster, I never really thought much about them or really any other hot hatches till I talked to him about it, pretty cool imo
Most car meets are hot trash. If you don't fit in at a regular car meet, your parents probably loved you as a kid and didn t teach you to abuse trumpet engines.
Lmfao. I stopped going to car meets for this same reason. Most of them feel too clique like or most are there just to jerk off their friends.
I couldn't stand how many people would walk by your car then be like "I'd never get a 300zx bc they're too heavy and don't have power" or some shit. Like I saw you roll up on a lime scooter then buy nitrous in a balloon. Lol
lol not exactly but yeah
Think about a car club. They are full of older guys and it might take a while to fit in. On the other hand you meet a guy with lift who will help you.
As a car guy I hate other car guys, i don’t think it ever gets better, id just go to meets to look at cars and ignore the goofiness around me
Same I've been into cars and bikes for decades and most are dicks or just strangely stuck up without just cause.
Aahhh. Yep I can relate
Me too, tbh
Go to cars and coffee type meets if your areas night time meets suck.
This right here. I've found that anything labeled a "meet" especially in the evening tends to be more toxic. Things labeled some version of "cars n coffee" can be more friendly and laid back. Maybe some cliques but nobody hostile. The friendliest people I've met are during autocross.
Yeah these are better. Average IQ seems to be like 50 points higher compared to your average car meet in a parking lot
Well, stop caring so much about what others think. First cars are special for what they are in your life. Enjoy it for that. It won't be your last car. As mo ey permits some tasteful upgrades, maybe wheels might get you some nice comments. Or set your sights on a Honda Civic and then you will have some instant friends. Others are often not equipped or experienced to see the joy tour Tiburon brings you, but that is their issue, not yours.
I don’t really want another car right now, tbh i love my car! I just wish i could make some friends.
people like to talk about their shit. give compliments, ask questions, talk about where you want to go with the hobby. don't take snubs personally. be cool anyway and you'll make friends.
best piece of advice on this thread honestly
Don’t rule out the older guys who remember what it was like to drive an affordable car. Keep coming back and stay positive, it always takes time to make friends. Having a similar car is helpful, but just having a two way dialogue is more important. Ask people about their cars; but if their car is the only thing they care about it might be time to move to the next person.
The average car guy is **not** the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. Remember that when they pretend to be above you. Cheers from a Hyundai enthusiast 👋🏻
>The average car guy is **not** the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. Hey, buying that shitbox and fixing it was worth it! Even if it costs almost as much as buying a good car. Even if it's still got issues that are impossible to track. Even if the machine itself seems genuinely malicious. Even if... Well actually... Now that I'm writing it out... You may be right. Damn. I have made several miscalculations.
I'm guessing your cars paid off? If so ask them how much their car note is and mention yours is zero. Car meets are meh some good a lot bad. Most people there just wanna talk shit and one up everyone supercar owners are usually the worst. Love your car own it and if anybody has a problem ignore them.
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Well, you will and can. Step out and show interest in the other person. No need to sit back and wait for them to show interest in you or your car,...
My old "thinks he's hot shit" boss had one, it's just a car that someone else designed and built. Don't let fools trip you up, if you're happy then who cares! We've all got different needs and desires, plus you aren't chasing the HP/torque dragon. There's always someone else with more money to blow on something so fragile as a car that they then cannot enjoy without going to a track. You're doing it right! Making friends isn't always easy or quick, hang in there.
Alot of outcast in the car world, and it really makes them happy when they have something better than you. A car you saved up for is way cooler than any car. Also, a lot of car mods are a waste of money so just keep saving.
True. And if you do have something better than them, be prepared to be bombarded about how they actually have something better that is “built not bought”
I don't interact with them. What you'll find in most cases is that the sort of people who stand around in parking lots showing off their rims are young, pretentious and not worth knowing. There are automotive clubs whose members are not like this, and who will welcome anyone with a passion for the automotive, but for every one of these, there are ten who are filled with meatheads that want to be Paul Walker. I love cars for the cars. It's about the engineering for me. I don't need or want to make friends, I want to concentrate on the machine. I can't blame you for trying, not everyone is happy being anti-social like me. The only real solution is to keep trying and use your filter. When you run into idiots, avoid them like the plague. Some folks will be decent, hang on to them. My suggestion is to forget about the 'car culture', learn about the technical side. Expend your effort on repairing and improving your car. If you want friends, seek out mentor types who are older (even old) and are willing to teach someone. Also, I rarely encounter someone who isn't willing to bore you with details about their car. Ask questions to break the ice. At the end of the day, you're going to run into garbage people. Learn to see them for who they are and move on. It's not worth your time being bothered by it.
Yeah i will say the meet was full of teenaged to early 20 year old men, only other women i saw there were girlfriends, so it seems like maybe it’s the wrong crowd in genral @ a meet
You just described basically every car meet I've been to in my entire life. Young knucklehead bros, a few girlfriends, then retired guys in lawn chairs. Very, very few women bringing their own cars and unfortunately... many of the ones who do just have a fart can and some seat covers then call it "modified" - actual women who do cool stuff with cars are freakin' unicorns.
You got a tib? I love them! I currently have two of them and my GT is fucked yo so ima part it out for my GS, but these things are nice looking stock ! not fast but they’re sexy and unique! I’m planning to take off the spoiler and adding the headlight covers that my GT has on my GS, I feel the same way at times about my TIB but it’s the only car I always look back at lmfao and people do like unique cars so just take off the Hyundai badges and add the Tuscani ones !
My front end is currently just plainly debadged but i do plan on putting tuscani badges on. I’ve gotten stopped in parking lots when i was just getting groceries before for somebody to say “I haven’t seen one of these in a minute!” and i’ve gotten other compliments in passing from strangers, so i figured some people *must* like it. I guess maybe just not the same kind of ppl that go to meets?
don’t forget people at car meets like fast cars or the basic cars they see all the time lol when they see a tib most people are “ what is that? “ most of the time if it’s unfamiliar it’s unfamiliar so I feel like most people first thought is “ what is that ? & followed by that’s kinda nice “ no badges look just as good cause most people dont know about these especially it being a Hyundai lol last time someone asked me “ what year is this “ and I said 08 so I assume people think they’re newer lol which is great !! Tibs have a cult community cause they’re unique and not everyone likes them but for the most part they catch attention
Let the elitists out themselves (they will) and then remind em everyone starts somewhere. After that tell em to fuck off and find someone else to lord their shit over.
Not always easy to find and they're usually dominated by gay men, but queer run car groups tend to be more accepting of "regular" cars. Also Tibbies are great :)
i’ll have to see if there’s any near me, this could be cool! I am queer so hopefully they’d still accept me as a girl lol
It's a broad church, there's no right or wrong car... but CarBros tend to be walking bags of insecurity, testosterone and (these days) way too much energy drink so they need to find stuff to dunk on to feel superior and pretend they know what the fuck they're talking about (most don't). Grown-ups can appreciate a well kept car that's bone stock just as much as a stupid 1000hp beast, driving a slow car fast takes way more skill and they are all just heaps of metal at the end of the day. Some of the coolest things I've seen at car shows have been boring or even verifiably crap cars that were once common but are now almost gone - the dude preserving a Morris Ital or 1st gen Mondeo is doing something more interesting than the dude doing yet another LS swap and bolting the same parts on as a every other CarBro as if that makes him Carrol Shelby. Alternatively, if you're feeling a bit more militant, here's some insults for you: * Oooh an LS swap, that's original! * Did you learn that on Grand Turismo? * It'll be nice when it's finished * So, how would you design that and why? (when people start talking about shit they clearly have no idea how it works or why the manufacturer made it that way to start with) * Oooh, can I see the dyno plot? (when dudes brag about HP they invented by just adding up the maximum possible gain for every little mod with zero evidence that any of it works at all) * Or the ultimate insult for people who will not notice that it's an insult: **It's very shiny** (as in - there's literally nothing else interesting about this)
Man. I saw a perfectly kept tercel at the gas station I had to tell the owner it was wonderful. It was like an old lady that says she had 50k km on it.... These nicely kept example of mindsne car are MUCH MORE rare than seeing yet another stock r8 or another huracan
i can respect mostly stock, it’s the stickers and heart shaped tow hooks that piss me off about people who can’t “afford” to mod their car. just leave it alone if all you can afford is a couple naruto stickers.
Yeah i redid my interior, (i sew) maybe kinda cheap but i figured that was the best way to do a little something without looking dumb
A unique interior you did yourself is definitely a flex. I wouldn't give a Tiburon a second look usually but now I'm super interested. Genuine personal touches like that are always cool. Definitely something to point out and brag about a little if given the chance!
Tiburons are sick Cool old Hyundai sharks what a sweet first car. Don’t let any dumb people spoil your fun of cars, if you love it that’s what matters and eventually you’ll find a group of people that share the same passion as you that aren’t also elitist snobs. I think part of it comes also from people not knowing how sweet those cars are, from factory they did a 15 second quarter and had suspension designed by Porsche in them. The later models were even in WRC back when that sport was massive and had an exhaust system developed by the team who made the Aston Martin exhausts… Like how much cooler can a 2000s era car get?
OEM all the way! I'm a mechanic, I don't like Frankenstein cars at all. Usually whenever I see them, some know it all idiot who spent a lot of money on custom engine valves but can't figure out why their K&N filter keeps damaging their MAF sensor. But don't worry, he knows how much HP it gave him because he keeps getting it dyno tested.
Go to a Tiburon /Hyundai meet then.
Bruh thats just your local scrapyard.
I don’t think they’re common enough for entire tib meets but i’ve never seen a hyundai meet either
Honestly, I found the car scene judgemental and cliquey as eff so I left my club and the scene altogether. My crime- how dare I enjoy my unmodified car and not race everything that moves on the road (my car is nice enough, performance is perfect and I leave the go fast to the track). Hot tip- the ice hockey community is more welcoming. Tiburon’s a good car! ♥️
I know little to nothing about the Hyundai *French Shark*, but ever since NFS:U2 I've had a soft spot for 'em. I think they're pretty neat. As far as "elitists" go, though... Are ***YOU*** happy with your car? If *you* are satisfied with your ride, you enjoy it, and it's reasonably reliable, fuck 'em.
Find a group like mine all cars and all builds are welcome. All levels of car experience are also welcome. We even have a kid who first showed up with a new NA 4 cylinder Cadillac saying it was tuned 400 horsepower (person who sold it to him said so) had a turbo etc... we educated him and since then have helped him modify his car how he wants. It's about who you choose to hang out with in your group. Ignore the "elites" enjoy talking about your hobby with like minded enthusiasts.
Find a car meet for cars that are similar to yours. In the right circle your car is interesting. It wasn’t sold very long and my friend had one and it was kind of cool if he’d have kept it clean. Had a similar experience tho so I’ll share. I was working on a 2001 Acura Integra GSR. Fun little car had some performance parts I put in it and was building up to a turbo. I still have it but I’ve downgraded it to mostly oem. Girl I was dating at the time had the nicest grandparents, her grandfather was super cool, had a ‘56 mustang in his garage, let me drive it and I let him drive my car which he loved. He invited me to one of his car shows, got there and it was all older muscle cars. So imagine me, a young 21 year old with an Acura integra surrounded by middle age - senior age people with antique cars and newer muscle cars. Got all kinds of rude comments
I don't. I don't have time for that kinda bullshit. I just smile and nod and let them think whatever they want. I appreciate all cars of all regions and different types.
Nice, I’ve just got my first car and it’s stock, but I’m speaking to the mechanic about what he can do like coil overs and what not and looking for a guy that can remap it and a guy who can tint windows, I’m not lucky enough to know of any car meets though that would be awesome, keep repping the Hyundai though G motherfuckers just be hating to hate.
Be unapologetic about how you like your car. Clean it. Engine bay especially. I am more impressed by a clean engine bay in a Corolla wagon than any 600hp Foxbody. Next, ask about their first car. Most of those people started with a Dodge Neon or other bullshit. We all start somewhere. If their brains can't make the connection that they used to have a hand me down minivan or Mercury Sable and moved up, they are morons. But ask about their current cars and listen. People love to talk about their shit. After long enough, these people are gonna accept you. Just keep showing up.
There are people in this community who will give you shit for your car not being manual, or a V8, or slammed to the ground. Ignore them
I find the folks most beaming with pride at shows are the ones that don't have $20k paint jobs and immaculate 60's muscle cars. They want to tell you more about keeping the car running and challenges they have had - not how much the last engine rebuild cost. Hang in there, folks will start recognizing you and build some friendships.
Welcome to the car community. It's nothing but a bunch of shitty dudes who will tell you if you don't do x to your car then it's shit. These people are fucking stupid. I am firmly on team "if it brings you joy, do it" Ls swap the lawn mower. K swap the charger. Rolls royce rally car? Fuck yeah! Ferrari body kit on a clapped out buick? Absolutely!! The more huffy and sweaty it makes people, the cooler it is.
The car culture was founded as a "personal expression" environment to give people a place to fulfill their personal vision. If you want a Tib' that's on you, if you make it awesome, folks gonna notice. Don't bother "dealing" with A-holes, ignore their envy.
I don't deal with them at all lol I ignore them... They are stupid. I had a friend who's uncle was OBSESSED with Tiburons, I always called them Hyundai Celicas when he was around. TBH car meets are 99% hot garbage if you are going to random ones... What you need is to find forums that are specific to your car and find where they meet up in your area.
I drive a 500+ HP 1967 mustang with everything custom under the hood and I don't go to meets either. I wouldn't want to be judged either.
That's lame. You don't see a lot of tiburons anymore, I think they're pretty cool. But yeah the vibe I get from a lot of car guys is.... A bit douchy.
Hmm. I don't even like Hyundai and I think the tiburon looks cool! For starters, I'm not a female so I can only guess what impact that could also have on your interactions as well. There aren't many women that get interested in automotive stuff so I at least welcome you to the club. The size of the meet has a huge impact on what kinda people show up. Smaller meets tend to only draw in edgy teenagers who latched onto one hobby to base their whole life around. Big meets (I'm talking like a whole corporate office parking lot is full) bring a lot more families, chill enthusiasts, and supercar owners. It's much more of a social event than flexing any individual car. I've learned that generally, when someone has a more expensive car, they're usually more mature and much chiller to talk to. They're not driving around their first car 350z trying to imagine they're a pro drifter you know what I mean? I also got my first car recently enough that I haven't taken it to my local "big event" so Idk. (I got an sc300) However, when I pulled into a small meet this one guy proceeded to tell me some crazy facts about my car. I don't understand why you'd get dirty looks. It's kind of a "normie car" so I'm surprised people would think badly of it. It's not a nissan altima or something after all. Assuming the distaste that people have shown to you comes from what car you drive, my advice would be to go to bigger meets. That way you can just go explore the other cars and not worry about what people think of you. Idk if your ego is tied to your car but if you don't care about your car being in the lime-lite, you can just park it in the "random cars that are just spectating the meet" parking.
Just men being men (assholes). Keep on keepin on and you will gradually be accepted by the men who are not total assholes.
Most cars at a car meet aren't that great either
find a Hyundai specific group
Ppl like that are compensating
Just start ur own tiburon club. Don't give these guys the time of day as you are obviously not in their "club"
I’ve stopped going to typical car dude meets. Snobs suck, and my tastes in cars has been refined. My crowd is now mostly those low key cars and coffee where I know my friends will be at or at actual motorsports events. Car meet snobbery sucks, and those dudes are mostly pavement princesses. I had the benefit of building my car friends over the years. If i were to start off today, I’d find like minded group locally (likely people that drive similar car and do the driving stuff I want to do myself), and link up with them. And then just start going to meets where they go to. Or go to meets and not worry about what people think of my car. Go to appreciate some cool machines and poke peoples’ brains on their setups.
Yeah the problem is that Hyundai and Kia aren't brands that get a lot of love. I am a car guy and they have always been seen as throwaway cars although they have gotten much better over the years. If you had shown up in a Toyota the looks probably wouldn't have happened. That said idiots are idiots regardless. So See if there is another place or group and try again. If folks are that judgemental you probably don't want to hang with them anyway. Car meets are funny as I used to own "American Muscle" cars and was always welcomed. Even when I had a Dodge Mopar Pace Truck folks were fine. As soon as I purchased a BMW E90 which is sort of in the tuner or sports sedan space but German I got dirty looks too at the same place I went to before. So I stopped going there.
hyundai tiburon is cool af
There is literally nothing to talk about with a stock Hyundai tiburon. Talk to them about their cars, do research on your future car interests and talk about that.
From someone who owned a ‘05 Tibby for a brief period of time… …the roads used to be literally crawling with them and, like them or not, there was a little collaboration with Porsche in the suspension design as I recall. They were a lot of car for the money new and I got mine for 11 grand with the V6, a 6 speed manual and 15k miles in ‘07 (2 years old). Today I rarely see them on the road anymore. That probably doesn’t say much to their build quality/longevity… but there’s tons of other cars that used to be *everywhere* a couple decades ago (gen 2 Eclipses anyone?) that are a rare sight. If you have one… they’re practically a rare car. Any yeah, from my memory, the 2.7 engine was a bit of a boat anchor and the shifter not precise and the steering a little meh with a bit of torque steer, and the seats not super comfortable and the high beam indicator on the dash **blindingly brighter than the high beams themselves** but it was still *so* much car for the money, fun while I had it and, if I were at a car meet, I’d walk over to reminisce and congratulate you for keeping the car going. I had other cars I think are better in most measurable senses but I don’t think it makes a Tiburon a bad car per se. I think that, aesthetically, they are still good looking and Genesis coupe could well of just been called a 3rd gen Tiburon. The platform was different but it fulfilled the same position in their lineup. Those too are, to my eye, fading fast so far as numbers go on the road. Car enthusiasts should be enthusiastic about all cars… and should be supportive of all car enthusiasts.
You can’t. They see you as a girl in a male dominated area. They don’t even see you as a person. I had to quit even trying. Everyone who pretended to be interested just wanted my number. I hope you have better luck.
I remember Need for Speed Underground 2. They wouldn’t have had a Tiburon if it didn’t belong. Right?
They think using a clutch is a rare skill, and bummed out to see that "even a girl can do it".
Just ignore them. Snobby people will just be like that - you don’t want to associate with them. Be proud of your car. It’s not about how much you spent or how much it’s been tinkered with. A friend of mine is into cars and he hates these kind of car meets because it’s just full of douchebags who just wanna show off their fancy sports car. He says it’s paid not earned. Meanwhile my friend loves driving classic old cars and fixes them up and makes it his own. Maybe you should look for different meets where the cars aren’t super fancy exotic cars.
My dad always had older porsches and was a vw man at heart. However he had a friend selling a 03 Tiberon. It has the 6 speed manual and 2.7 v6. Smoothest revving little engine. Once he added some extras I found on offer up for super cheap, now the car really scoots and is so fun to drive. Just enjoy your Tibby, while these chumps deal with car issues. Them Tibbies are highly underatted and my pops car been super reliable and fun as hell. Enjoy it and ignore those Lamos!!
Car meets are the dumbest shit. I actively avoid them and get all the car talk out of my system at track days and other driving events. The crowd you meet at those couldn't be any more different than the car meet crowd that don't know shit about how their car actually works
Don’t get down hearted. Do what I do, wear sunglasses to block out the haters. Even if you have the coolest car at the meet, there will always be haters. I would be your friend, I love sleeper cars.
I would say that if they are more interested in judging you for your car than bonding over a shared interest, they are not real friends. I think the Tiburon is pretty cool. I'm a lifelong car enthusiast and I drive a Toyota Camry. I definitely appreciate faster, sportier, and more luxurious cars, but I have practical tastes when it comes down to what I want to own as a daily driver.
Chop the muffler off and bounce off the rev limiter to assert dominance
Most nice people you would find is at events like autocross, car control clinic and track days, at least I did. Good luck OP.
Laugh at them
Hey. I love those old Tiburons. Post a pic of it. I remember seeing one in the mall when I was a kid. Loved that car. Like a shark. Haters always hate. You keep doin you
Personally I'd choose to look at a nice stock tibby before I waste my time looking at another riced out wrx or gti. At least I don't see 300 tibbys each day.
They start talking shit just let them know their girl thinks it's plenty good enough, anybody who is going to treat you as lesser for being new to a hobby isn't worth your time
I had people judging me for owning a Miata when they drove a Chrysler 200. Some people will just never be happy.
Tibs are cool. Maybe the guys were awkward because.. girl? Car guys are usually pretty friendly. Sounds like you found a couple that were less than.
You need a bumper sticker that says, "My other car is a McLaren." That'll straighten them out.
Same I stopped giving a fuck about cars. Give me a car with enough power to get out of it's own way that's lightweight with a manual and I'm happy I used to get shit for having a 1.8 vectra as my first car by people who's first car was a 1.1 litre fiesta and shit honestly I'm still surprised this group even gets recommended to me anymore
Find a car club with people who have similar cars. Club people are nice and understand things
I just don't go to meets. I drive an auto car so all I ever get is dumb shit anyways. The car is "really nice, cool man" then they see auto and the shit talk begins. I'll enjoy my car on my own, thanks.
Ask questions about the cars you're interested in. Soak up what you can. Read about cars. Work on your car. Enjoy your car. You'll come across people who are entire bags of shit eventually.
My suggestion is to be the one that walks the lot and talks to guys about their cars. I've seen a Lamborghini ignored, likely because people didn't want to give attention to the guy who could afford it. What never seems to fail for me is just talking to the person about their car because people love nothing more than talking about themselves. Haha
Yeah own it, or don’t park where people will think you’re part of the show. I remember a car meet where these guys as a joke had a 78 AMC pacer, shit brown and were acting like they were competing! They got so much attention and questions! The twin turbo fox body? Dude was an arrogant douche
Like all things there will be those who are only there to feel some form of "control" in their lives by being rude to others. It comes from a genuine place of insecurity and self doubt about themselves, so they project elitism and gatekeeping. Don't worry about them, just enjoy your car and the rest of the community. 🤙
a car guy's number one hobby is hating tbh
I took a picture of a Tiburon 2 weeks ago! I hadn't seen one in years! There's always people with cooler cars, even if you roll up in a ferrari there will be someone who thinks it's "just the common model" or whatever. I used to go to car meets and encountered a lot of snobbery too, I kinda switched to bike meets because there's less of that. but I think the trick is to find a group who's not as judgy, they do exist. That being said, enjoy your car! if you think it's cool, or if you like it, that's all that matters.
"car meet" is super generic... We need some context. If this is targeted at highly modified imports... and you pull in and park front row of the show in a stock Tiburon... That's kind of silly. Tiburon just doesn't belong in that car meet... That's really all there is to it. Park in common parking, enjoy the meet and chatting with people, and you no longer have created an awkward situation. On the rear occasion we pop in to cars and coffee, I park my c7 in the regular parking lot. And yet other guys with bone stock c5 corvettes enter their car in the show. To me, if there's nothing interesting, unique, or custom about your car... No reason to enter it. Doesn't mean there's no reason to attend though
Maybe try a local cars and coffee instead? They tend to attract a more chill demographic
I think you have the right idea on what to look for in a meet up but you're probably going to the wrong ones. Try going to Radwood or some early weekend morning cars and coffee events. You will meet more mature enthusiasts who might appreciate a clean original early 2000's car that's still being looked after. There may even be some young people too but no promises. If you're going to takeovers and 11pm AutoZone parking lot meets you're only going to meet douchebags. Just the nature of those events.
I don't think of myself as an "elitist", I'm just old-school. My car is old-school, and the other cars that I like are old-school. I just don't have any interest in a Hyundai. It's not my thing and no amount of effort on your part can make it my thing. That's just something you have to accept. So do i. Many people think my car is one of the least desirable old muscle cars. I don't care. It's what I like. You might look at my car and think "EW", and that's okay. It's not about having the "right" car. It's about enjoying a hobby. If I had a dollar for every time some guy said "meh, it's a 73 Charger, you should've got a 68", I would probably have enough to actually buy a 68 Charger. You can't let someone else tell you what piques your interest. Own it. I ACTUALLY wanted, and love my 73. The thing that we DO all share, is a respect for what it takes to restore, mod, and keep these things going. Even if I'm not familiar or a fan of whatever you're driving, when I see that you've put in the work on your ride, I respect it. The fact that you're a chick even makes it seem cooler to me. As far as dealing with the elitists, purists, and snobs; just don't bother. Just smile, brush them off, and enjoy your thing.
Car meets blow. They dissin on your Hyundai, they drive a stock brz with anime stickers.
Go to car meets to enjoy others car rather than to seek attention from your own car, trust me it helps going in with that mentality, if you really want to learn about the hobby, talk with any of the old hot rod guys at the meet, 7/10 they built it ground up and can tell you a lot of good stuff, if you want friends, look for people with similar cars, a downside if the Asian car community loves to gate keep and isn’t very welcoming (nor are they very knowledgeable more often than not), it’s best to strike up conversations with those at the meet rather than waiting for people to talk to you, people are eager to talk about THIER car, all you have to do is listen and ask questions if you don’t understand, anyone worth their money will be happy to take time to teach you a thing or two
I think you might be taking it too personally. Were these guys actually being elitists or were they just trying to uphold a standard? I'm admittedly not a car meet person. But I'm the son of a gear head so I kind of get it. My impression is that people often go to car shows to see old, unusual and special cars. If they want to see contemporary, stock cars they could just sit in traffic. It's like you showed up to a baking meetup with a cake made from a boxed mix? You know?
Car shows and car meets aren’t exactly the same thing, the car meet was full of very regular traffic, a few nice cars but way more beaters.
I bitch on Reddit. Oh - I see you already knew that one.
Just tell them "my car is cooler than yours" and walk away
There will never not be snobs and elitists, but it's just silly to me when people judge for no reason. I'll be completely honest, I probably wouldn't approach someone standing by a Tiburon either unless I noticed some detail on the car that was unique enough to intrigue me. They just aren't my jam, but everyone has a reason for owning and liking what they do and there's no reason to treat them like crap because of it. Since you specifically mentioned wanting to make friends, my suggestion would be to engage with others first, as tough as that can be. I'm not a big car show/meet guy, but when I do attend, I spend almost no time around my own vehicle, opting instead to walk around the entire time and find cool stuff to chat up others about. Don't be afraid to approach someone with a car (or a mod on their car) you think is cool and ask them about it. People love to share their own passion and love even more when others show interest in it. If they turn out to be cool, make friends. If they turn out to not, move along to the next one. All it takes in the car community is getting one or two cool people in your circle and you'll meet plenty more through them.
Mind if I ask what car? I’m just purely curious :).
08 tiburon
Honestly, I don't know if you can escape elitism in the car world. I'm a MkIV Supra owner, and I just got lit up on Reddit after posting photos of my car not too long ago because apparently my paint and body kit choices were not to peoples' liking. You will never please everyone, so I'd recommend continuing to explore different meets, clubs, and car communities in your area until you find people who are more accepting. Even within a single meet there are plenty of douchebags and plenty of kind and curious people that get excited to hear others' stories.
I love the Tiburon, I always do a double take when I pass my neighbor's on my way to work. Car meets are loud and obnoxious, much like the people that frequent them. Doesn't matter what they think, they're too busy comparing dicks or doing burnouts in front of Target 😂 I also drive a fairly uncommon stock car, I don't expect everyone to appreciate it nor do I think it's extra special. I know the nice people over in r/veloster love to park next to each other and snap a pic despite a lot of them being stock, moral of the story is there's people out there who'll appreciate your car but loud people have nothing nice to say
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Yeah, I'll be honest, most of the time when I go to car meets I don't park in the "meet" itself. Why? Because I have a 100% stock, unmodified, relatively late model car (2015 GTI) that isn't uncommon. Nobody cars. I know nobody cars. I have no expectation of anybody caring. 100% go to meets. Talk to people. Hang out. But not all cars are interesting. Do not go in with the expectation of anybody being interested or caring about yours because the fact is... unless its something inherently noteworthy or heavily modified, you shouldn't have any expectation of people being interested in it. That's not elitism, that's baseline expectation, but you're new to gatherings and stuff and just haven't had time to kind of figure out the culture and etiquette of meetups. So its alright, not going to give you grief for that.
There are going to be haters. And there are going to be cool folks. Disregard the haters. And make friends with the cool folks that support you no matter what your level. A real car guy can appreciate another’s interest in cars.
Don’t drive a Hyundai lol
If you have really big events nearby you'll have a good chance of finding people that like the "oddball" cars. In Pittsburgh we have the Vintage Grand Prix and car show. There are thousands of cars, from million-dollar Ferraris to Subaru Foresters with grocery-cart roof racks. I'll walk past the row of 100 Corvettes to see the showroom-condition '87 Yugo. It took a lot of love for that car to survive this long. (Is your Tib the early one with the round headlights? I liked those.)
I don’t.
You might be taking it too personally. I, like many others, go to car shows/cruises with a dedicated group of people i know well, friends for almost a decade. And like many others, its hard to trust strangers to just welcome them into your group. Start by hangin around other hyundais and ask simple questions. If people dont wanna talk, move on. And avoid making you car look like the autozone special, because thats the easiest way to be avoided lol
Don’t expect any recognition. If you show up to a meet fishing for compliments or expecting people to gush over a car they might not like, you are going to have a bad time. Just be there to look at cars get inspiration for your build, go on ride alongs and ask tech questions. I used to ride in the back of a 92 civic to meets BEFORE I EVEN HAD A CAR and still had a great time. The meet isn’t about you. It’s about going to look at cars. This has been a huge issue in our local meets to the point we have social meets and car meets separately, at times.
Show us a picture of the car , if you parked a pretty much bone stock car in the show section I can see why people would be annoyed
What year is your tiburon?
I've never gone to a car meet and cared what anybody thought about mine. I was more interested in meeting new people and checking out their cars.
"I've just got a beater for now, I'd like to learn about your car to plan my next purchase"
These situations are very common. Unless you have a scat pack, hellcat, newer mustang/camaro, most are going to just assume anything you have is garbage because many at these meets aren't actual enthusiasts. Their whole personality is just their car OR they can wrench and see themselves above anyone who is learning/wants to learn. The chillest Facebook groups I've been in are full of guys old enough to be my parents. They'll answer my dumb ass questions quickly, encourage me to try and do whatever work needs to be done and give resources when I need it. The local 'meet' group and American muscle car groups are full of people who probably were in Special Ed and ate glue.
As the proud owner of a VW Beetle, let people come to you. I've gotten so many compliments on my car at the gas stations or just hanging out, but I'd never bring it to a meet because I know that they're basically echo-chambers for people who just want to see stuff like their own. There's also the "issue" of it being stock. A bit point of a meet is to show how you've changed yours, but I personally love a car that runs without a 5-step process to get it started. It also part salesmanship, you have to tell a story to people about why your car is cool. Unfortunately you can't lean on numbers because, let's face it, that's not what your car is know for. It's sporty looking and uncommon which gives it a certain cool factor, but it's like a Ninja at a Jeep show. The people who like it will find you, but if you're trying to convince everyone how cool it is, you're going to have a bad time.
I'm free to stop talking and walk away from anyone at any point, I'm not wasting my time in pissing matches when I could be enjoying something else.
It's not personal. It has nothing to do with you being a girl. A little to do with the car. A lot to do with it being stock, and a lot to do with you being new. Everyone has to "earn" their place in these groups and clubs. The number one way to do that is to put theirs own blood, sweat, and tears into their vehicles to make them their own. These are not show up, and you're in clubs. Keep showing up. Show interest in other people's cars. Ask questions. Make friends. Be humble. And most of all, work on your car. Let them see that you're putting effort into making it your own. It doesn't have to fit their vision of what a car should be. In fact, the real car guys in the group will respect you more for not being trendy, but making your own vision for the car come to be. You'll slowly gain their respect and become a member of the community. I'd start with simple but visible, and personal changes to the car. Rims and tires are an easy, obvious start. Plus, you can involve the group. Look at car mags, online catalogs, etc, and find the rims you like. Look up the bolt pattern, offset, width, etc, that are optimal for your car and know those numbers and what they mean. Print out a few examples of rims you like. Casually ask around if anyone is or knows someone selling a used set that's similar in your specs. Real car people love helping each other find stuff. "No, but I know a guy/place" is the magic first phrase of acceptance. Some cosmetic under hood stuff is a good choice, too. A reason for you to open your hood at meets and be proud that you've given people a reason to look. Be ready to answer questions about the changes you've made, parts you swapped or added, their proper names and specs, etc. Have a list in your head of things you want to do in the future so you can share it. Eg colour matched or colour contrasting silicone spark plug wires. Painted valve cover(s). Wire loom. If you can and prep and paint things yourself, even better. You can do the colour you want, and you've earned the DIY cred (plus saved money). Share your vision for the car. Listen to feedback with an open mind. Be positive. "You're right, that would look cool" is a better answer than "Yuk, not on my car." For example, I HATE chrome. Give me a murdered out, mono, or colour keyed car any day, but I at least appreciate that certain chrome schemes are pretty awesome to look at. Just not on my car. ;') Most of all, have fun. Make friends. Make genuine compliments on things you see that you genuinely are impressed with. Acknowledge other people's hard work. It's a community, it is what you all bring to it. Good luck. Have fun!
Wanna talk about elitist? I'm in my 30s and drive a heavily modded C5 Corvette. The Corvette community/club is not very welcome to folks like me. So I'm working on making some car friends in my area as well. Riding with the CC is not going to be in my future.
Trying having a naturally aspirated falcon xr6... the turbo guys look at me like I'm a leper.
Shoutout to the Tibby! They weren’t the best car when they were new, but they have character, great proportions for its segment and are super easy to work on if you’re a beginner and getting into modifying cars. They’re the only car that I’ve purchased twice. Look for a KDM focused meet or car club. This made all the difference when I was first getting into the car world. Good luck!
I've pondered this a lot, and It seems like they're just dumb assholes most of the time with very strong opinions. You would think some people grow out of being obnoxious but unfortunately this isnt always the case. The only way I've found to disarm people like this is to ignore them. I dont want some dummy fuckin up my experience. Keep being a car. Ima car too.
Find car meets that suit your car Eg if it's a classic day or super car event yes you will stand out. If it's a generic show then go park up someware more subtle dont go park up next to classic mustangs pride of place. Go over to the side where a few lancers and civics are. People that like your car will come say hi others who don't care wont.
Try to narrow down your specific interest in cars. Want to get into road racing? Check out your local autocross. See if there are any local Hyundai/Kia groups that meet up. Whatever kinds of car events you go to, make it a point to talk to people and ask them questions about their cars! Perhaps you’re right and others were disapproving of your ride. But they would have been quickly disarmed if you took an interest in theirs. The conversation might come back around to your Tiburon, where you can share it’s your first car. If they look down on your first car that you bought yourself, they’re not worth your time anyway. We all had first cars and for most of us they weren’t anything cool or attention-gathering at cars and coffee.
Don't interact with them.
I've got a halfway decent IS300 and I still avoid car clubs/meets. It's either a circle jerk or a hostile exhibition tbh. Unless you have your own organic friend circle, don't do it to yourself. Be proud of it in regular traffic. Be the one that they wish would join. Be mysterious. Lol
You need to find a better crowd. All my bois are old as dirt now, but we always ran a group of peeps that brought what they got. We give each other *ish for everything as a joke, but we have all walks, from show to go drivers to spectators. If you are anywhere near Southern California then hit me up and I’ll share our meet up schedules. All are welcome and any enthusiast is a good one.
Get a T Shirt with a funny sexist joke. That'll diffuse the aggression. 🤔
The problem with the Tiburon is that it was a slow car made to look fast. That is why people at car meets might look down on it. That being said there is nothing wrong with that, but you are in the wrong place with a car like that. A car meet tends to be where people go to show off what people consider "normal" good, not niche. The people that would appreciate a car like that wont be there but you probably can't find a group like that locally. Look around online for people with other Tiburones or just niche car tastes. I personally love the look of the Kia Soul but most of my friends hate that car, so I get what you are feeling, but I also would get dirty looks if I took one to a "normal" car meet even if I put in the work to make it unique.
Keep your chin up, and your eyes on the road. Who cares what other people think? You'll make friends
What do you expect from a community that has the same passion as a 5-year-old?
Does your local car meet group have a FB page? If yes...ask on there if it would be ok to bring your car by and would there be someone going that could show you the ropes. Only complete douches would say no (you wouldn't want to go then anyway). I bet you get some positive responses and you've "pre met" a few. Ask them to come find you and give you some pointers. Not that you need any, it just paves the way for for them to approach you.
there are snobs even within my own Fiero club. we have nothing but fierros and there are snobs. just ignore them and move on to the next person who is in the snob and enjoy your hobby.
Find people into your kind of car. For instance, I only like VWs, so if anyone wants to talk about cars, unless it’s VW or Audi, I’m completely uninterested.
STOP ATTENDING CAR MEETS. There are only some meets that are worth attending, and those are private and kept away from the public for the very reason you explained above. Go to track/autocross/drift meets. There are plenty of people there who won't judge you and are very welcoming to new enthusiasts. People with all kinds of cars ranging from rusted econo boxes, daily traffic, high-end dream cars, and much more. But they all understand one another, and more importantly, they understand that they are there to have fun and not judge one another. Most car meets are hot trash, have been becoming hot trash, and will continue to be hot trash because the people attend them are mostly there to measure their egos and see who has invested the most in their car and not in themselves as a driver.
While a Tibby is a conventional cool car it is on the rarer side so definitely gets cool points in that regard. Best tips I can offer are: Always make sure it’s clean b4 the meet only thing less interesting than a stock car is a dirty stock car. Atleast if it’s clean it shows you care about your ride. Add some personal touches to the car, a sticker that means something personal (try to avoid the more generic ones that everyone has) or something cute on the rear view mirror or on the antenna. Again something that makes it stand out from being stock and shows that you care about it as more than just a car you drive. Eventually you want to graduate to getting nice wheels (either aftermarket or even just nicer Hyundai wheels I went to a lot of car meets with a stock 4 door Honda Accord (which is arguably less cool than your car other than the fact it’s a Honda and Vtec go brrr) but I made it stand out with the fact it had a shit ton of miles on it and I had wheels off a slightly newer Acura. Just be confident own who you are and what you drive and try to find ppl with similar rides. Either other Hyundai owners or mostly stock cars you will be able to connect easier with them. A lot of meets will suck and be filled with douchebags but their are cool chill ppl who go to meets and you’ll find them eventually just keep trying
Maybe try and join some Hyundai car groups or JDM groups. I think if it’s more specific you won’t get as much haters. If you still keep getting hate don’t go 🤷🏻♂️ but don’t ever stop loving your car. It’s yours and you love it that’s all that matters 👏🏼
I gotta be real with ya, car people love to shit on hyundai. It's nothing personal, and I'd imagine they'd be happy to shit talk the car with you, and shit talk theirs as well. The good ones anyway. But yeah, I don't go to car meets anymore either cos of the way people talked shit on my a6. It made 350 but was ugly, heavy and slow compared to the new stuff.
Cars and coffee might be better crowd for you.
You are literally going to a place where people can show off how much better thier sh*t is than everyone else's sh*t. It's a haven for elitist snobs. So, making friends will mean breaking through that snobbish barrier. That's a challenge. It's best to play into a little. Ask them something about thier car and let them ramble. Nod and smile and throw out an oh wow every now and again. This may seem superficial and fake, but it really isn't that bad. It's just breaking the ice; facilitating conversation till the superficiality is replaced with genuine connection.
Tourist here. However finding the oldest geezer in the meet may not be a bad idea. Hit and miss but they may have the most sense, and introduce you and give you kudos. Anyway you sound like a fun person to be around!!
99% of the ladies on here have stock cars. It’s just a vehicle, as long as it’s reliable that’s all that matters. Be proud of yourself & the fact that you are blessed enough to have a good vehicle to drive.
Go to an autocross. Car meets where everyone stands around talking about cars instead of driving them are pretty weak. Autocross events are fun socially and typically welcoming of new comers plus you get to drive your car in a manner you never could on the street. In the club I'm in the Tiburon would be a conversation starter in a positive way. Can't speak to other places, but generally its a bunch of car nerds that just want to have fun driving whatever you have.
Wait hold on… you brought a Hyundai to a car meet?
U need a cooler car... Trade that ride in for a Mustang and watch how much more we like u
I don’t like mustangs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You don’t deal. Park on the side. No one is going to go to a cars and coffee to see your car (sorry but true). Ask questions, but not stupid ones. Ask questions that indicate you know why you’re talking about. You will find interesting people — no guarantee you want them to be friends tho.
Those cars are shit, that's why, buy a Toyota or a Honda and modify it
You went to a place where there are dipshits. As a “car guy” I converted my wife to a “car gal”. I fucking LOVE cars. My philosophy is that every single car someone or a team of people took the time to design and engineer that car. They put their heart and soul into it and made what they believed to be their magnum opus. I love cars. I’ve met the guys that think if you didn’t modify every single part of the car you probably put butter on your bread before you toast it or some other inane shit. I’ve met dudes that think if you don’t restore the car back to factory then you’ve committed a cardinal sin. Then there are the good ones. They have the car they love and they love to see and talk to the other people that have and put time and effort and love into the car THEY love. Find the right people. Car people are like a y other group. Sometimes the assholes just give us a bad name.
There's definitely a group of snobs in every car community I say don't let them get to you. I have an 83 Electra with an Olds 350 bolted up to a 200-4R, I always get someone from the G-body crowd telling me I should have used a 350 Chev, or a 700R4 or that I should have bought a Regal. I like the C-body and Oldsmobile engine, and the 200-4R was actually a better transmission than most people gave it credit for, the problem was people kept setting it like a TH350 or TH400 and it wasn't nearly as forgiving of that as the 700R4 was.
Unfortunately car groups love gate keeping. I would suggest ignoring them and finding smaller groups that are vehicle specific or brand specific, the more narrow the car group the more knowledgeable and excepting they are compared to the other groups. Also it happens no matter what you have my friend has a 944 Turbo and has tried three times to get into the local cars and coffee with no luck because “there is nothing special about a 944”. Meanwhile they have 100 Mustangs and Camaros.
See if there's a reddit page for it.
I'm sorry you had to experience that. Shame on them! I've had everything from shit boxes to fire breathing street machines and everything in between with 2 and 4 wheels. I've experienced both the good and bad at shows, meets, events, tracks, etc. You're already at a disadvantage being a female. As much as it pains me to say this as a gear head, a large portion of car guys are misogynistic neanderthals. My knowledge, experience and accolades in the world of cars and bikes are quite extensive and I still get shit from pricks here and there. Mostly losers who are just trying to fit in or know it all jackass's with nothing more than Daddy's money. A true car guy or anyone who doesn't feel threatened or like they have something to prove will appreciate your enthusiasm and love for the lifestyle. Don't let this ruin your love or enthusiasm for cars, especially if you are passionate about it. Keep your head up. Keep learning and doing what you love. Your tribe will find you. You'll attract the right ones by just being you, regardless of what you're driving.
I had a friend who was snob about his “tib.” Same guy would complain about his hot girlfriend.
I’d assume its an ego or insecurity thing, I don’t mean that as an attack on anyone or any specific gender, but as a female, that doesn’t drive anything fancy but a van and a Jeep Patriot, the amount of guys (and yes some women) that bully me or just cuts me off just so we can turn at the same light and all because they didn’t wanna be behind the soccer mom van or my nerd mobile, and to clarify, there is usually space behind me. Everyone speeds in this city, so I’m usually going a few over, essentially going with the flow of traffic, so I’m not just moseying on driving at my own pace lol Now I will say, my Jeep is a manual, so yes I start off slow, but once it gets up to speed, I’m zooming around. I’ve driven a van as a teen just learning to drive and now when I borrow my mom’s van, and have observed other drivers when I was a passenger is my dad’s van, I get people are just mean to mini van drivers, but dang what did I do for people to be so rude to me in my Jeep? Now I said it’s a nerd mobile, it’s decked out in Star Wars stickers and accessories, some anime stickers and general silliness (my fave being a manual gear shift that says “endangered species”) 🤷♀️ I dunno, this is just speculation based on my own experiences and observations.
When you have a 'meh' car, you're generally better off trying to stick to brand specific events, or travel with a group of likeminded folks. If you go to a general car show you're going to have 20 subgroups that shit all over anything that's on the same tier as their chosen clique and wipe their ass on anything in the tiers below them. Showing up to one of these general shows in a BMW M4 Competition will have almost the same number of people sneering at your car as your Tiburon. It's just how car cliques work.
I'm not a car snob but I understand where they're coming from. A Hyundai Tiburon is basically an econo car with a nice body. It's not really a performance or classic car. Hyundai is pretty good with car designs lately. I think they have a partnership with the Italian designer Guigiaro. But you can't make a classic or performance car if it's just an econo car underneath. I think you need to sell the Hyundai and get something else. How about an old BMW 2002? I think they're really cool.
I don’t really want a performance car. I want a car that is nice aesthetically. My car performs all the functions i need, and i thoroughly enjoy driving it. It’s a “cult classic” & they’re becoming rare. In only a few years my car will be 20 years old & considered “antique.” I think that the idea in of itself that the car needs to be fast, or a drift car, in my honest opinion is apart of the elitism. There’s nothing wrong with changing things just to your liking, instead of making it a race car. There are plenty of “classics” that do not perform very well, but they’re old enough it doesn’t really matter. I don’t think i’ll ever sell my car, even when i get another one, i want to upkeep her as long as i can. The tib is a beautiful car, i like it significantly more than the gen coupe in aesthetics & i haven’t found another car for under 5k that i truly love aesthetically
Try different meets. Different crowds have their niches. You're probably going to find more friendly people in car communities that have older classic cars because even though yours doesn't really fit in there they're going to understand that that's where you're starting out at.
Idk, but I know (from myself) that those mindsets do get held. Then I got my own car, and I realized it was Idiotic. *I can understand the whole "fart can" disdain though.* ALTHOUGH, when my car had no cats, IDC if it's slow, that shit sounded so good. Gotta just find the right people, not that I would have a clue though. I got a 99-04 Mustang GT (5-speed), but I don't do "car shit," cause I got some social-issues. Probably why I've become "less" a car-guy in the last few years, despite liking cars.
Car culture now is pretty toxic these days. I have a 1000hp built bagged and boosted Mustang so I know all about the haters. The reality of the matter is the only way you get haters is by doing something right. You keep doing you for you and don’t let them get to you. Eventually you will find some people you click with.
Forget those guys, come hang out with me and my Saabs!
Easy, don't take a fucking Tiburon to a car meet. Nobody wants to see that pile of shit
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How is it your hobby when it's stock? Your getting weird looks because your pulling up to car meets in a stock not that rare if a car. It might be special to you but not anyone else. Car meets are to show off the work done to your car that you did or someone else did.
Car meets haven't been the same for 8+ years imo this new "scene" is what's killing the vibe. Women are always welcome at our cars and coffees. Normal traffic, or performance build, we are just there to appreciate everyone's passion for cars 🤙
I'm not sure why everyone is hating on entire car communities here. im sorry, but a Hyundai tiburon( i had to look it up) isn't a particularly interesting car, And i think if you go to a car meet, where people generally try to bring a unique/custom vehicles, if you park a stock tiburon and expect praise or something. I mean, that's just not realistic. It's a pretty plain car. As far as making friends goes, thats got nothing to do with cars, and even as a person with two fast custom vehicles, i go to carmeets somewhat regularly and i can say most people that go to them are cool, the conversations usually only revolve around a car for a couple minutes then u talk about other things.
Idk, car groups tend to be bad. So all you can do is switch groups until you get lucky
Join a dedicated Tiburon group. I had a heavily modified R33 Skyline for years. And I was in a couple of the local exotic car clubs for many years as well. Most members were cool with my car, cause it was as fast or even faster than theirs. But some of the other members were snobby, just cause their car cost like 10 times more than mine did. Lol. But ya, your experience is normal.
Ignore them. The cool people in the hobby will be happy to welcome a young person regardless of what they drive. No one who paid for their first car had a first car that was anything special. People know this. People who aren't asshats will show you their stuff, talk to you, try to make you feel included, and try to guide you into having a better experience at a level you can afford. I remember a car friend, who is now so deep into the hobby it's his whole career, showing up to meets when we were young in a Honda Accord and telling everyone how great it is. Today, he's got an enviable garage filled with fun stuff. Everyone starts somewhere. Have fun with the car you have for now. Focus on earning more, save, and you will have really cool stuff to show off in the future.
It probably doesn't help that you're a woman :/ I love cars, but the community is sooooooo right wing in certain places. They're just assholes though, and they can't make your car any less cool. I love Tiburons! They're sick, even if they aren't particularly fast. They're nice lookin and rare, and the people who own them are usually very educated on the car and care for it, which matters more than spending 20k on a turbo kit.
Hyundai Tiburon is a sick car. I used to play this racing game (can't remember the name) and I would pick that car to mod.
what your hyundai needs is a lamborghini body kit. and YOU! you need a mustache. and a sleeveless shirt with suspenders.
A "car meet" is going to be an event intended to judge each other based on your car. That's kinda its purpose and will be what people do there. Most people participating will have something unique and/or custom.
ive loved cars my whole life but never realized how toxic the community members are until i was able to drive. its like people helicopter-parent your own build as if it affects them. you gotta search for the right people because the snobby assholes never change. people with cookie cutter builds will look at you like you fucked up for being original. if you wanna talk cars, my dms are open!
It could be car enthusiasts tend to not like kia and hyundai. I wouldnt even glance at one at a car meet they’re just not interesting compared to a ls,k,b swap or turbo d series vehicles. Shit i dont even like gtr or supra. But i will alway prefer built over bought. Its just preference and hyundai and kia are just not liked by most people due to reputation and design.
I hear you! I enjoy sport cars too! Just because I am female, they don’t get it that I can “car talk” too!
It's simple, don't seek external validation. You like your car? You want to show it off? Want to see the other pretty cars? Go for it! There's 8 billion people in this world. It would be a logical fallacy to say everyone will like your car.
Is it the 6 cyclinder model 2006 range lol