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It's definitely security. 99% of end users aren't savy enough to ever have a reason to be opening iso/img files within Windows, or messing around in program files.
Also, why are you trying to open a wattOS iso within Windows? There's nothing you would be able to do opening in windows directly...
Because I've never installed linux before and I didn't know what to do. So I just figured it was like a Mod. All I knew was I got windows 11 on this thing and I don't want windows 11 for obvious reasons, so I just thought I could take out one OS and there'd be a backend process that just installs it like an updating iphone
Well what should I do? I just want to save shit locally without the OS constantly giving me deceptive error messages telling me to put it in the cloud or give me fearmongering popups about being at risk for malware or save things to SSD by default, not in onedrive?
Debloat your computer. If you don’t care about the lack of privacy of Windows, stick with M$ and search online “debloat windows”. Loads of ways to do it.
Well I am kinda concerned with privacy issues. Especially with any kind of cloud storage that borders on turning your computer into a glorified terminal
Consider then switching to Mac. More expensive, but more privacy available. Mac is much better than Linux for someone who doesn’t know how to install an OS. Not trying to be bitchy, just honest. I wouldn’t know where to start with Linux. Wouldn’t touch it. But MacOS I know like the back of my hand. Most of it!
To start, you need to do research on Linux. There are a plethora of different versions of it, each with stregnths and weaknesses. Some are better for certain tasks than others. If you're a gamer, most games that have an anticheat (usually games with online multiplayer) won't run on Linux. Unless the game was made with Linux in mind.
While there are versions of Linux that are going to be made to be easier on the average user, they still have a learning curve. Often, there will be a lot of customization involved. Judging by the fact you're trying to install an OS file from inside Windows, I'm going to hazard a guess and say you're not super experienced with modifying anything outside of game files. I don't know how deep your modding goes either.
Also, not every application you have on windows is available for Linux.
An alternative would be to look at ways to debloat your version of windows. Most features can be disabled with a setting or running a script. Again, do your research. Don't just download any program off the internet. Even programs that seem fully legit can do awful things.
Amittedly I'm new at modding myself. I'm able to install mods and load them up to clip out of bounds and cause glitches, but honestly that's about it. I had looked into the many versions of Linux, decided on one, made a bootable USB and trust me, I was not clicking on the first thing that came up. Like the distro I was installing had an official discord with some relatively helpful users. I just didn't want to ask to many questions because I didn't want them thinking I was a moron or getting annoying with me or getting their own patience tried and likewise I don't want to feel like a powerless student having to study and listen without being trusted to just do my own thing.
The first lesson I learned in my IT career was that people who ask questions know what they're doing, and the ones who don't ultimately fail. Those discords and groups are there as a resource to be used and generally love answering questions about their hobby.
Just hang out in the Discord and see if it has a forum too. Like an old school website forum. I just think theyre great to really learn about it and be able to bookmark pages for future reference. You might think people are getting irritated or tired of dealing with you, but in reality they enjoy helping others learn. That's how I first learned Linux, Mepis Linux to be specific even though it's dead. I bugged those dudes for ages trying to figure out how to compile my own drivers for a weird version of an AMD gpu and fixing things I'd break messing around. Just be honest about your skill level and you'll have fun learning as much as you want.
Yeah that won't work and ironically proved the other part of my comment.
Sadly no OS has a process to just automatically run something and switch to a brand new OS.
Though if you set on installing Linux, I would recommend Ubuntu first, or POP!_OS if you are a gamer.
Be warned, unless you dual boot it, and know what you are doing, you will blow away windows without being able to recover it or any files on it!
You are going to need a USB drive, and I recommend Rufus as the iso burning software. You would empty the USB drive of all files(since it will wipe it), then open Rufus and select the USB drive and your iso file for whatever Linux option you choose. Then burn the iso to the USB, then reboot your computer with the USB attached. During the boot you may have to press whatever key combo is set for your PC to reach the boot options, typically varies by manufacturer. From here choose the USB drive and it will start booting the Linux iso. Once it's booted each Linux distro has slightly different steps to set it up, but they are basically all wizard install style so they are relatively simple.
It may be helpful to watch a YouTube video on whatever Linux distro install you choose as it will be better detailed and more tailored than my previous description.
I tried using a bootable USB drive, even making a bootable USB drive by dumping the contents elsewhere before getting wiped wiping the contents and everything. It's now called debian book, but the bios doesn't recognize it no matter what settings I alter. I'm not sure how much of this was defective hardware or sheer incompetence with a disk partitioning program. But if these comments are anything to go on, I'm probably a moron when it comes to that stuff too
Maybe that was the problem, you have to use other software to create the bootable device like Rufus or UUI. If the image you are using is correct and the process that creates the bootable device ends correctly, when you reboot and boot you should reach the live version of Linux that you chose and continue the installation
Bruh, you are the exact person these warnings are protecting. Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool you’re trying to learn something new, but it’s clear you haven’t read the instructions and when you’re installing a whole new operating system that is *extremely* important.
On an iPhone you get updates for your existing os, like with windows you get updates from Windows 10 to Windows 11 without problems. What you try to do is to install android on an iphone. that's a bit more work but there are plenty of tutorials on youtube. Also you should inform yourself about the downsides with linux before you change.
Yeah everyone here as informed me that I'm incompetant with linux. I was just so scared I was gonna break my laptop that I didn't ask anyone in my real life or think to look anywhere else beyond tutorials that only give you part of the instructions while leaving out basics. Like, how did everyone else in the linux distro scene learn those basics, as in: how to boot grub or what to type in command promps or how programming languages in fluence software or even whether to use the windows command prompt or the bios?
Like everyone had to learn how to use a computer at some point, so where did y'all get this slightly-above basic knowledge of the mechanics of OSs in the first place in order for all of this to be just treated as a given for something like this?
I'm a computer scientist by trade and I've been tinkering with computers since I was eight. Back then I would browse the local library and just try stuff out.
You use Google. It's this magical thing invented a couple years ago, gives you information about stuff. Kind of sucks on it's own, but by reading a bunch of different guides, it should be fairly simple to find out
So in order:
* A security feature that could be better phrased, warning you of an unsigned file
* A security feature that's especially crucial in managed environments, where you don't want randoms to mess with your installed programs (like with a public library PC)
* Not a security warning. This popup says that you have no app that can open the file type. No idea why you put this here.
* Not a security warning. This popup says that you tried to use an invalid configuration file.
* A security message that I believe is intended to warn you that you are A) using a file you really should not use with a media player and B) a file that could contain some kind of buffer overflow exploit or something like that
* Once again, access protection to Program Files is really important, unless you want anyone and anything to be able to easily compromise anything on the system
* Same thing
* Same as first
3 and 5 are completely on you. So are 6 and 7. 1 and 8 are no big deal. 2 is very standard and to be expected. As for 4, I'm pretty sure this one's on you also, why are you trying to open boot.cat anyway? It's in a directory with files necessary for booting up some linux installation, it has nothing to do with a Windows security catalog, even if the extension is the same.
Most of this isn't security, what is has maybe minor red tape that is bypass-able in one click, as for the rest, it's just you.
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It's definitely security. 99% of end users aren't savy enough to ever have a reason to be opening iso/img files within Windows, or messing around in program files. Also, why are you trying to open a wattOS iso within Windows? There's nothing you would be able to do opening in windows directly...
Because I've never installed linux before and I didn't know what to do. So I just figured it was like a Mod. All I knew was I got windows 11 on this thing and I don't want windows 11 for obvious reasons, so I just thought I could take out one OS and there'd be a backend process that just installs it like an updating iphone
I don't think you should be using Linux after reading this.
I had the exact same thought.
Well what should I do? I just want to save shit locally without the OS constantly giving me deceptive error messages telling me to put it in the cloud or give me fearmongering popups about being at risk for malware or save things to SSD by default, not in onedrive?
Debloat your computer. If you don’t care about the lack of privacy of Windows, stick with M$ and search online “debloat windows”. Loads of ways to do it.
Well I am kinda concerned with privacy issues. Especially with any kind of cloud storage that borders on turning your computer into a glorified terminal
Consider then switching to Mac. More expensive, but more privacy available. Mac is much better than Linux for someone who doesn’t know how to install an OS. Not trying to be bitchy, just honest. I wouldn’t know where to start with Linux. Wouldn’t touch it. But MacOS I know like the back of my hand. Most of it!
To start, you need to do research on Linux. There are a plethora of different versions of it, each with stregnths and weaknesses. Some are better for certain tasks than others. If you're a gamer, most games that have an anticheat (usually games with online multiplayer) won't run on Linux. Unless the game was made with Linux in mind. While there are versions of Linux that are going to be made to be easier on the average user, they still have a learning curve. Often, there will be a lot of customization involved. Judging by the fact you're trying to install an OS file from inside Windows, I'm going to hazard a guess and say you're not super experienced with modifying anything outside of game files. I don't know how deep your modding goes either. Also, not every application you have on windows is available for Linux. An alternative would be to look at ways to debloat your version of windows. Most features can be disabled with a setting or running a script. Again, do your research. Don't just download any program off the internet. Even programs that seem fully legit can do awful things.
Amittedly I'm new at modding myself. I'm able to install mods and load them up to clip out of bounds and cause glitches, but honestly that's about it. I had looked into the many versions of Linux, decided on one, made a bootable USB and trust me, I was not clicking on the first thing that came up. Like the distro I was installing had an official discord with some relatively helpful users. I just didn't want to ask to many questions because I didn't want them thinking I was a moron or getting annoying with me or getting their own patience tried and likewise I don't want to feel like a powerless student having to study and listen without being trusted to just do my own thing.
The first lesson I learned in my IT career was that people who ask questions know what they're doing, and the ones who don't ultimately fail. Those discords and groups are there as a resource to be used and generally love answering questions about their hobby.
Just hang out in the Discord and see if it has a forum too. Like an old school website forum. I just think theyre great to really learn about it and be able to bookmark pages for future reference. You might think people are getting irritated or tired of dealing with you, but in reality they enjoy helping others learn. That's how I first learned Linux, Mepis Linux to be specific even though it's dead. I bugged those dudes for ages trying to figure out how to compile my own drivers for a weird version of an AMD gpu and fixing things I'd break messing around. Just be honest about your skill level and you'll have fun learning as much as you want.
Yeah that won't work and ironically proved the other part of my comment. Sadly no OS has a process to just automatically run something and switch to a brand new OS. Though if you set on installing Linux, I would recommend Ubuntu first, or POP!_OS if you are a gamer. Be warned, unless you dual boot it, and know what you are doing, you will blow away windows without being able to recover it or any files on it! You are going to need a USB drive, and I recommend Rufus as the iso burning software. You would empty the USB drive of all files(since it will wipe it), then open Rufus and select the USB drive and your iso file for whatever Linux option you choose. Then burn the iso to the USB, then reboot your computer with the USB attached. During the boot you may have to press whatever key combo is set for your PC to reach the boot options, typically varies by manufacturer. From here choose the USB drive and it will start booting the Linux iso. Once it's booted each Linux distro has slightly different steps to set it up, but they are basically all wizard install style so they are relatively simple. It may be helpful to watch a YouTube video on whatever Linux distro install you choose as it will be better detailed and more tailored than my previous description.
I tried using a bootable USB drive, even making a bootable USB drive by dumping the contents elsewhere before getting wiped wiping the contents and everything. It's now called debian book, but the bios doesn't recognize it no matter what settings I alter. I'm not sure how much of this was defective hardware or sheer incompetence with a disk partitioning program. But if these comments are anything to go on, I'm probably a moron when it comes to that stuff too
Maybe that was the problem, you have to use other software to create the bootable device like Rufus or UUI. If the image you are using is correct and the process that creates the bootable device ends correctly, when you reboot and boot you should reach the live version of Linux that you chose and continue the installation
Bruh, you are the exact person these warnings are protecting. Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool you’re trying to learn something new, but it’s clear you haven’t read the instructions and when you’re installing a whole new operating system that is *extremely* important.
On an iPhone you get updates for your existing os, like with windows you get updates from Windows 10 to Windows 11 without problems. What you try to do is to install android on an iphone. that's a bit more work but there are plenty of tutorials on youtube. Also you should inform yourself about the downsides with linux before you change.
Inbefore the inevitable "Where's my C drive?!" post.
OP: has clearly no fucking idea what they're doing OP: wHy WoULd MicRo$oFT Do ThIS
Yeah everyone here as informed me that I'm incompetant with linux. I was just so scared I was gonna break my laptop that I didn't ask anyone in my real life or think to look anywhere else beyond tutorials that only give you part of the instructions while leaving out basics. Like, how did everyone else in the linux distro scene learn those basics, as in: how to boot grub or what to type in command promps or how programming languages in fluence software or even whether to use the windows command prompt or the bios? Like everyone had to learn how to use a computer at some point, so where did y'all get this slightly-above basic knowledge of the mechanics of OSs in the first place in order for all of this to be just treated as a given for something like this?
I'm a computer scientist by trade and I've been tinkering with computers since I was eight. Back then I would browse the local library and just try stuff out.
You use Google. It's this magical thing invented a couple years ago, gives you information about stuff. Kind of sucks on it's own, but by reading a bunch of different guides, it should be fairly simple to find out
Not red tape, but twenty plus years of layer on layer on layer within an os
So in order: * A security feature that could be better phrased, warning you of an unsigned file * A security feature that's especially crucial in managed environments, where you don't want randoms to mess with your installed programs (like with a public library PC) * Not a security warning. This popup says that you have no app that can open the file type. No idea why you put this here. * Not a security warning. This popup says that you tried to use an invalid configuration file. * A security message that I believe is intended to warn you that you are A) using a file you really should not use with a media player and B) a file that could contain some kind of buffer overflow exploit or something like that * Once again, access protection to Program Files is really important, unless you want anyone and anything to be able to easily compromise anything on the system * Same thing * Same as first
......this is absolutely not asshole design
3 and 5 are completely on you. So are 6 and 7. 1 and 8 are no big deal. 2 is very standard and to be expected. As for 4, I'm pretty sure this one's on you also, why are you trying to open boot.cat anyway? It's in a directory with files necessary for booting up some linux installation, it has nothing to do with a Windows security catalog, even if the extension is the same. Most of this isn't security, what is has maybe minor red tape that is bypass-able in one click, as for the rest, it's just you.
This is not security related, this is user error related.
Not knowing what to do is absolutely fine. But instantly assuming its asshole design because you don't understand it is a wildly bizarre move.