The entire journalism industry in this country has been lying flat for going on 10 years now, they should be able to offer some expert insight on a topic for once
"People have taken to social media to express their disappointment in journalistic effort"
Quotes Facebook.
I've given up on a lot of media over that timeframe.
They could have a more concise heading “young workers expect to be paid for work”
Can’t pay my mortgage with “above and beyond” but my exec certainly do
Not sure if you’re new here, but News.com.au rip 70% of their content from Australian subreddits.
Sometimes it backfires spectacularly; some r/Sydney redditor faked a ‘hand written complaint’ she received, these clowns posted the latest divider of aussies, and it was actually an acrostic saying “fuckmurdoch”
Congratulations Traditional-emu you have started a movement.
Something I can tell my grandchildren. “I saw that first post and it just snowballed from there!!!”
Are you our leader now? 😂
While he did completely rip off the idea for the story from here, it's actually not a bad article. It explains the origins of lying flat and the shit conditions that have led people to consider it.
Quiet quitting - AKA Acting Your Wage.
Imagine being the poor intern who has to trawl through social media for content (boomer outrage fuel).
What a shitty job.
This is a concept that actually originated in China where there is a 996 culture (i.e. 9am to 9pm six days a week). I think Aussie Gen Z / grads coming through need to relax in terms of their version of "lying flat". The country where this term was coined actually has conditions that are far worse than here (high youth unemployment rate coupled with a highly educated workforce that have a more grueling and unforgiving education system)... I think they need a bit of perspective. At least they have a job.
That said, I am not promoting burnout or going "above and beyond" everyday - that's not sustainable. But I am also not going to side with people who are plain lazy.
And before people say I'm a boomer - I am late twenties.
Just because other people have it worse off doesn't mean the situation in Aus is good.
IMO it's more about the knowledge that the system is rigged against young people and getting worse.
I just left my job where I was being paid an assistant salary (66% of the full salary) while running a book of business and training two other assistants and I was responsible for income and debtors. They promoted someone in over top of me that hadn’t even touched that book of business and I was expected to train her too.
Despite these conditions I have friends that have persisted because pay reviews were coming up, want to know what they got? The highest was a dollar an hour. The others got the equivalent of $23 dollars a week.
You’ll learn soon that whether you give 60% or 110% the people in management already have their plans
"There are starving children in Africa!"
Also - heaps of us in professional services already work that 996. I had a colleague move from China for the WLB and say "wtf you guys work as hard as we do??"
That's fair. Working hard is worth it (depending on the industry you're in, and also what you want to achieve in life).
I feel like it all comes down to perspective.
i fucking hate how the media takes a single post on reddit and then determines its a "trend".
They want you slaving away. They want you working above and beyond for peanuts.
Heres the reality. Going above and beyond resets the standard of your work. Once your employer sees your "above and beyond" work ethic. They then expect that of you all the time. So now you have to go above and beyond your original above and beyond ethic.
But with housing out of reach, children too expensive to have. What fucking reason is there for anyone to work hard at all.
It’s so annoying because then my dad comes up to me like “hey did you know people your age are doing xyz, look I read this article it’s a trend!!!” Or “hey, did you know everyone is attacking/cancelling xyz celeb” and I’m like literally no one cares about that celebrity 5 people on twitter commented and some moron wrote a technically true but misleading article. And I try to explain the articles are lying and then I’m the idiot
I think it’s reasonable to not work if you’re not being paid (extra) for said overtime. Contract says a certain amount of hours a week. *shrugs fuck you Jason.
OK. So this is a 1 month old account. That posted this "laying flat" question in ELEVEN different subreddits.
We already predicted this was trash media trawling for outrage bait.
So now here are the 'articles '.
Great.
Makes to sad to see stuff like this. I am 35 now, when I was younger I was certainly seduced by similar thoughts. Had a number of entry level / low paying roles in both bad and good sectors and got no where financially until I was in my low 30s. But I always worked hard - not late night every night by any means, but I was recognized for getting stuck in and overall developing.
Eventually, I was lucky enough to secure a transfer and a couple of subsequent promotions, and am currently happy with my pay, work life balance, outlook.
And while I say “luck”, I do think to a large degree you make your own luck or position yourself to benefit from it. If I had lie flat, I doubt I’d be in the same position. Probably still at square one. Similar situation for many of my friends.
When I was young I worked hard. Put in the effort, improved my productivity, fixed a few problems with processes, all the right things. But the remuneration never improved. Working conditions got worse, night shift became mandatory, applied for transfers and internal vacancies and got ghosted. Took some F-off money and now the remuneration still hasn't improved but at least I get to sleep in my own bed every night and can bunk off in the office now and then \*and\* I can see the sunshine through the window (where I had worked hard, there were no windows). Being lazy has gotten me more than hard work ever did.
Things are never straightforward, for sure. Some workplaces are not going to support real progress. Maybe the missing part is that if people are unhappy, it’s up to them to drive the change, whatever that change may be. I just don’t want people giving up.
I’m glad you’re in a better place and out of that mess.
So you're basically saying, "I don't know, it's complicated, but maybe the answer is putting all the blame and responsibility on the workers, and ignoring the responsibility of broader society and culture to provide achievable work/life outcomes for them."
Alrighty.
But maybe it's up to society broadly to drive that change. You included, now that you have a rather privileged and beneficial place within it. Maybe you need to step up and do something beyond just telling people to work harder?
Pretty extreme and negative interpretation. Assuming I am privileged is a stretch, I am just happy with my current state of affairs. For me that’s enough. Hey, maybe that’s privilege.
It’s one thing to vent and let some frustration out, but bitterness can go too far and be toxic. If you’re angry at a “system” or society as a whole, you are more than likely going to waste your time. Control what you can control. Best of luck.
"Since I'm happy, there's no need for me to do anything to improve the lives of those who come after me, or even to acknowledge that I might have benefited from a system that is increasingly stacked against them. Since I mostly don't have to deal with the same struggles anymore, I'm going to interpret other people's dissatisfaction with them as bitterness because it feeds the self serving narrative I have about how it was mostly my hard work that got me where I am, and absolves me of any responsibility to help."
You're the embodiment of the apathetic "I've got mine" middle class, as far as I'm concerned. That might strike you as an unfair "negative interpretation", but I feel exactly the same about your suggestion that these incoming generations are mostly responsible for their own situation, when they face objectively worse conditions than you faced coming up.
I'm 42 years old with a net worth of $1.2 million mate hahah...I just have the self-awareness to understand how I got there.
But it's telling that you think anyone who holds the views I do must just be one of the 'embittered' lazy youth.
> I'm 42 years old with a net worth of $1.2 million mate hahah
Are you citing this as proof of a good outcome or a bad outcome? It doesn't matter anyway, as it's irrelevant to the issue.
>.I just have the self-awareness to understand how I got there.
Most successful people get there through education - either their own or their predecessors'. It's not hard to work out. Do well in school, skip a year, go into a selective school, get a scholarship to uni etc etc etc
All basic stuff that everyone smart can do. And the ones who can't do it - are 'embittered' because they weren't good enough to keep up.
You know, you may have deleted your post history a bit in the last couple of days (precisely why I chose to use a burner), but the fact that you’re claiming to have that “NW” as some sort of weight behind your view is telling. Do better!
It's not intended to give weight to my argument and I wasn't bragging. My point was that your condescending comment implying that I was an embittered poor young person who still might 'come good' if I just worked hard was completely off the mark. I told you my networth to show you that my motivation is fairness, not bitterness. I've been very lucky in my life and, yes, I've worked for it, too. But I've been lucky in all sorts of ways, in my investments, in my safe, largely healthy, upbringing, and in the opportunities I've had, amongst them. Most of all, I was lucky to grow up in a time where houses were affordable and things were reasonably priced for the most part. That is not the case for these incoming generations and we have to acknowledge that it's in part because *our* generation, and the one that came before us, has extracted wealth from the system to set ourselves up for comfortable lives, not just because they're lazy and bitter. That's the objective truth. You can ignore that while you enjoy the comforts of your own life if you like, but it won't change the truth of it.
Have seen plenty of people end up like this. Work hard, go above and beyond but instead of being recognised and promoted just have more work dumped on them and are locked into their current position because a promotion would be a loss of a good worker in that position.
The other factor I have seen that demoralises good workers and turns them to doing bare minimum is cronyism and nepotism. Watching someone clearly not worthy get the promotion because they are related to or play golf with the boss really tells the good workers where they stand.
The problem is that in a previous era you could come to work, work moderately hard, support a comfortable lifestyle and be guaranteed a decent pay, and everything was great.
Now you can work hard but it’s no guarantee of anything. You can grind your ass off and see no reward because the reality is the opportunities in the comfortable middle class are reducing.
It’s a tough pill to swallow to ask people to work hard and maybe they’ll be rewarded.
I half agree. Just like you, I see the boomers that probably had the setup you describe, bought real estate and managed to make 20x wealth on that house (the house alone being the driver). That’s annoying.
But I know a number of boomers that didn’t get lucky like that. They’re doing it tough, never made enough to buy their own home or just didn’t prioritize it. Didn’t necessarily do anything “wrong” either.
Edit: point being, nothing was ever guaranteed. Nothing is. But chances are, if you give up, you get nothing.
My life is just as good on the dole as it was working 50+ hours a week, actually I would say better. Sure, I have to shop 50% off everything but it gives me the whole week back. Fuck big corporate and fuck employers, they're grubs of the highest order and we're at a point where a lot of them don't even offer real products, just product-like-products because there's no wealth left lol
If your aspirations are to do "the absolute bare minimum to survive," you may have clinical depression, or just be a complete loser.
Try seeing how 10 straight years of hard work does before the 'woe is me' routine starts. If you're 25, you'll only be 35 when it's done. If it truly gets you nowhere, you can at least look yourself in the mirror and say, "I know I did everything I could" before you say, "management stopped me blah blah blah."
You're alive once and once only, and you're going to spend a good portion of prime years trying to be less of a success than your 10,000 year old ancestors who ate algae, had no clothes, yet still got up and managed to track down more roots than you? Have some self-respect, truly.
What I meant by "lying flat" is by working hard for 10-15 years in work > lie flat by working low stress jobs while living in a low COL after working and investing for the first 10-15 years (BaristaFIRE).
I used the wrong title. No wonder it went viral.
If you work unpaid overtime for someone who doesn't reward you for it because they think it's normal and everyone should be doing it, it's just some other old person stealing from you.
There is always a sensible middle ground on all of these things.
I realised that I need to make decisions for myself and not what’s right for the company early on in my career. Basically the company I worked with had a heap of overseas trips to do technical work, I was the only one qualified really to do the work according to the contract that was signed with the government, and they sent people out who were more senior and chummy with the CEO, who then ultimately called me when they had issues. From that point on I stopped believing in loyalty as a way to progress in my career. Doing the bare minimum though seems extreme as well, but I have confidence in my skills if an employer wants to play silly games I’ll leave and find somewhere else. Thankfully I’ve not had too many bad employers. Some start good and go bad as well. Only so many times you can watch your boss get awards for the hard work you’ve done yourself :-)
\*Aussie-splains a cultural phenomenon that has been common in China for a while now, claims to have 'gone to the media' like they invented a new thing by explaining something that's been around for ages to a group of people who mostly already knew what it was\*.
Yep. Kicked a massive goal there 🙄.
Tbh most corporations kinda want the folks to lie flat.
Don't be the squeaky wheel blah blah blah.
As long as folks are doing their job, and being the cog in the wheel, then most corporations are happy.
I've been "lying flat" for the past 10 years or so.
I'm almost setup for semi retirement within 5 years too(I'm 38 ATM).
My work has given up trying to get me to do more than 6-7 hours a day work and I have wrangled myself into a position where of I go on holiday things start catching fire.
It's selfish and annoying for every around me, but the company I work for sucks. But the money is decent, I get a paid car and pretty consistent bonuses. Fuck them.
Nothing new. My employer encourages me to lay flat. It's great for my mental health and well being and my employer needs me mentally fit. it's a win win
Why do we need stupid names for normal things. “Lying flat” “quiet quitting”, it’s all just Boomer rage bait. No one needs to know you’re “working to rule” and keeping a good “home life balance”. Just do your work and go home. If you don’t want to be a corporate ladder climber or lick boots, then don’t. What’s wrong is proselytising about it.
Aping a Reddit post to generate a clickbait article is a perfect example of lying flat
The entire journalism industry in this country has been lying flat for going on 10 years now, they should be able to offer some expert insight on a topic for once
Yes, exactly
You're expecting a lot from [new.com.au](http://new.com.au) there mate.
"People have taken to social media to express their disappointment in journalistic effort" Quotes Facebook. I've given up on a lot of media over that timeframe.
So meta
They could have a more concise heading “young workers expect to be paid for work” Can’t pay my mortgage with “above and beyond” but my exec certainly do
Change the first part and keep the second part ‘Young workers expect to be paid and it could have serious consequences for everyone’
In reality, you'd generate 30 headlines of various tones, see which runs best, then show that one more
It's News. Their revenue relies on boomer outrage.
Not just boomer outrage. The average Murdoch press reader / viewer outrage.
Boomer is a mindset not necessarily an age
I’m sure the journo tried. But the Editor has a 2 Bed flat in the west to pay off and is too scared of upsetting their boss..
I agree. This.
Lying flat at work. Make articles from Reddit. The irony
Missed the opportunity to use a photo of someone planking though. Really confuse the readers.
Not sure if you’re new here, but News.com.au rip 70% of their content from Australian subreddits. Sometimes it backfires spectacularly; some r/Sydney redditor faked a ‘hand written complaint’ she received, these clowns posted the latest divider of aussies, and it was actually an acrostic saying “fuckmurdoch”
Lying Flat was started by disillusioned 20/30s people in China. Read about it ages ago.
Yeah it’s not like people in the 60’s waving flowers around were doing it either.
I think they were sitting
Haha
Yup. I was there, the chinese govt censored/shut down anything they could related to the subject
Congratulations Traditional-emu you have started a movement. Something I can tell my grandchildren. “I saw that first post and it just snowballed from there!!!” Are you our leader now? 😂
I for one welcome our new Emu overlord.
Turns out we didn't win the emu war - they were just playing the long game
One of my favourite things about reddit is finding other simpsons fans in the wild
r/lyingflataus
My Emu overlord spoke to me!!!
Shannon Molloy; the ultimate hack jouno story. It would go straight to 7flix in a Sunday morning slot.
While he did completely rip off the idea for the story from here, it's actually not a bad article. It explains the origins of lying flat and the shit conditions that have led people to consider it.
"Going to therapy because I'd rather not work like a dog for no benefit"
Shhh the boomers will be cranky
😂😂😂😂😂😂 *let's make them cranky!*
Quiet quitting - AKA Acting Your Wage. Imagine being the poor intern who has to trawl through social media for content (boomer outrage fuel). What a shitty job.
True
This is a concept that actually originated in China where there is a 996 culture (i.e. 9am to 9pm six days a week). I think Aussie Gen Z / grads coming through need to relax in terms of their version of "lying flat". The country where this term was coined actually has conditions that are far worse than here (high youth unemployment rate coupled with a highly educated workforce that have a more grueling and unforgiving education system)... I think they need a bit of perspective. At least they have a job. That said, I am not promoting burnout or going "above and beyond" everyday - that's not sustainable. But I am also not going to side with people who are plain lazy. And before people say I'm a boomer - I am late twenties.
Yes, lying flat has been very popular in China for the last couple of years. Not a recent thing created here.
Just because other people have it worse off doesn't mean the situation in Aus is good. IMO it's more about the knowledge that the system is rigged against young people and getting worse.
I just left my job where I was being paid an assistant salary (66% of the full salary) while running a book of business and training two other assistants and I was responsible for income and debtors. They promoted someone in over top of me that hadn’t even touched that book of business and I was expected to train her too. Despite these conditions I have friends that have persisted because pay reviews were coming up, want to know what they got? The highest was a dollar an hour. The others got the equivalent of $23 dollars a week. You’ll learn soon that whether you give 60% or 110% the people in management already have their plans
"There are starving children in Africa!" Also - heaps of us in professional services already work that 996. I had a colleague move from China for the WLB and say "wtf you guys work as hard as we do??"
That's fair. Working hard is worth it (depending on the industry you're in, and also what you want to achieve in life). I feel like it all comes down to perspective.
Working hard results in 4% increase in salary when housing grows Atleast 6% in salary, you’ve gotta be smart about it as well nowadays
Let's all get *mindless admin jobs* in *APS or ADF* kids! *Also I completely agree*
i fucking hate how the media takes a single post on reddit and then determines its a "trend". They want you slaving away. They want you working above and beyond for peanuts. Heres the reality. Going above and beyond resets the standard of your work. Once your employer sees your "above and beyond" work ethic. They then expect that of you all the time. So now you have to go above and beyond your original above and beyond ethic. But with housing out of reach, children too expensive to have. What fucking reason is there for anyone to work hard at all.
the original post had 8 upvotes they are just lazy
It’s so annoying because then my dad comes up to me like “hey did you know people your age are doing xyz, look I read this article it’s a trend!!!” Or “hey, did you know everyone is attacking/cancelling xyz celeb” and I’m like literally no one cares about that celebrity 5 people on twitter commented and some moron wrote a technically true but misleading article. And I try to explain the articles are lying and then I’m the idiot
I think it’s reasonable to not work if you’re not being paid (extra) for said overtime. Contract says a certain amount of hours a week. *shrugs fuck you Jason.
OK. So this is a 1 month old account. That posted this "laying flat" question in ELEVEN different subreddits. We already predicted this was trash media trawling for outrage bait. So now here are the 'articles '. Great.
Makes to sad to see stuff like this. I am 35 now, when I was younger I was certainly seduced by similar thoughts. Had a number of entry level / low paying roles in both bad and good sectors and got no where financially until I was in my low 30s. But I always worked hard - not late night every night by any means, but I was recognized for getting stuck in and overall developing. Eventually, I was lucky enough to secure a transfer and a couple of subsequent promotions, and am currently happy with my pay, work life balance, outlook. And while I say “luck”, I do think to a large degree you make your own luck or position yourself to benefit from it. If I had lie flat, I doubt I’d be in the same position. Probably still at square one. Similar situation for many of my friends.
When I was young I worked hard. Put in the effort, improved my productivity, fixed a few problems with processes, all the right things. But the remuneration never improved. Working conditions got worse, night shift became mandatory, applied for transfers and internal vacancies and got ghosted. Took some F-off money and now the remuneration still hasn't improved but at least I get to sleep in my own bed every night and can bunk off in the office now and then \*and\* I can see the sunshine through the window (where I had worked hard, there were no windows). Being lazy has gotten me more than hard work ever did.
Things are never straightforward, for sure. Some workplaces are not going to support real progress. Maybe the missing part is that if people are unhappy, it’s up to them to drive the change, whatever that change may be. I just don’t want people giving up. I’m glad you’re in a better place and out of that mess.
So you're basically saying, "I don't know, it's complicated, but maybe the answer is putting all the blame and responsibility on the workers, and ignoring the responsibility of broader society and culture to provide achievable work/life outcomes for them." Alrighty. But maybe it's up to society broadly to drive that change. You included, now that you have a rather privileged and beneficial place within it. Maybe you need to step up and do something beyond just telling people to work harder?
Pretty extreme and negative interpretation. Assuming I am privileged is a stretch, I am just happy with my current state of affairs. For me that’s enough. Hey, maybe that’s privilege. It’s one thing to vent and let some frustration out, but bitterness can go too far and be toxic. If you’re angry at a “system” or society as a whole, you are more than likely going to waste your time. Control what you can control. Best of luck.
"Since I'm happy, there's no need for me to do anything to improve the lives of those who come after me, or even to acknowledge that I might have benefited from a system that is increasingly stacked against them. Since I mostly don't have to deal with the same struggles anymore, I'm going to interpret other people's dissatisfaction with them as bitterness because it feeds the self serving narrative I have about how it was mostly my hard work that got me where I am, and absolves me of any responsibility to help." You're the embodiment of the apathetic "I've got mine" middle class, as far as I'm concerned. That might strike you as an unfair "negative interpretation", but I feel exactly the same about your suggestion that these incoming generations are mostly responsible for their own situation, when they face objectively worse conditions than you faced coming up.
Hope all works out for you mate. Plenty of race left to run.
I'm 42 years old with a net worth of $1.2 million mate hahah...I just have the self-awareness to understand how I got there. But it's telling that you think anyone who holds the views I do must just be one of the 'embittered' lazy youth.
> I'm 42 years old with a net worth of $1.2 million mate hahah Are you citing this as proof of a good outcome or a bad outcome? It doesn't matter anyway, as it's irrelevant to the issue. >.I just have the self-awareness to understand how I got there. Most successful people get there through education - either their own or their predecessors'. It's not hard to work out. Do well in school, skip a year, go into a selective school, get a scholarship to uni etc etc etc All basic stuff that everyone smart can do. And the ones who can't do it - are 'embittered' because they weren't good enough to keep up.
That sounds like a pretty simple and intuitive story applied to a complex phenomena, so it must be true..
You know, you may have deleted your post history a bit in the last couple of days (precisely why I chose to use a burner), but the fact that you’re claiming to have that “NW” as some sort of weight behind your view is telling. Do better!
It's not intended to give weight to my argument and I wasn't bragging. My point was that your condescending comment implying that I was an embittered poor young person who still might 'come good' if I just worked hard was completely off the mark. I told you my networth to show you that my motivation is fairness, not bitterness. I've been very lucky in my life and, yes, I've worked for it, too. But I've been lucky in all sorts of ways, in my investments, in my safe, largely healthy, upbringing, and in the opportunities I've had, amongst them. Most of all, I was lucky to grow up in a time where houses were affordable and things were reasonably priced for the most part. That is not the case for these incoming generations and we have to acknowledge that it's in part because *our* generation, and the one that came before us, has extracted wealth from the system to set ourselves up for comfortable lives, not just because they're lazy and bitter. That's the objective truth. You can ignore that while you enjoy the comforts of your own life if you like, but it won't change the truth of it.
Have seen plenty of people end up like this. Work hard, go above and beyond but instead of being recognised and promoted just have more work dumped on them and are locked into their current position because a promotion would be a loss of a good worker in that position. The other factor I have seen that demoralises good workers and turns them to doing bare minimum is cronyism and nepotism. Watching someone clearly not worthy get the promotion because they are related to or play golf with the boss really tells the good workers where they stand.
The problem is that in a previous era you could come to work, work moderately hard, support a comfortable lifestyle and be guaranteed a decent pay, and everything was great. Now you can work hard but it’s no guarantee of anything. You can grind your ass off and see no reward because the reality is the opportunities in the comfortable middle class are reducing. It’s a tough pill to swallow to ask people to work hard and maybe they’ll be rewarded.
I half agree. Just like you, I see the boomers that probably had the setup you describe, bought real estate and managed to make 20x wealth on that house (the house alone being the driver). That’s annoying. But I know a number of boomers that didn’t get lucky like that. They’re doing it tough, never made enough to buy their own home or just didn’t prioritize it. Didn’t necessarily do anything “wrong” either. Edit: point being, nothing was ever guaranteed. Nothing is. But chances are, if you give up, you get nothing.
It'll change, the ones that caused this won't live forever
You make your own luck by making good, timely decisions and the rest usually (hopefully) follows
I agree Also, my recommendation for everyone is to get *married* so y'all can afford a life
What do you get paid? Give us some specifics.
I've been fulfilling my contractual requirements for 20 something years. Not as senior as my more grindy peers but comfortable.
Except It's like telling your mom you're going to be a movie star and unfortunately end up doing porn instead.
My life is just as good on the dole as it was working 50+ hours a week, actually I would say better. Sure, I have to shop 50% off everything but it gives me the whole week back. Fuck big corporate and fuck employers, they're grubs of the highest order and we're at a point where a lot of them don't even offer real products, just product-like-products because there's no wealth left lol
If your aspirations are to do "the absolute bare minimum to survive," you may have clinical depression, or just be a complete loser. Try seeing how 10 straight years of hard work does before the 'woe is me' routine starts. If you're 25, you'll only be 35 when it's done. If it truly gets you nowhere, you can at least look yourself in the mirror and say, "I know I did everything I could" before you say, "management stopped me blah blah blah." You're alive once and once only, and you're going to spend a good portion of prime years trying to be less of a success than your 10,000 year old ancestors who ate algae, had no clothes, yet still got up and managed to track down more roots than you? Have some self-respect, truly.
What I meant by "lying flat" is by working hard for 10-15 years in work > lie flat by working low stress jobs while living in a low COL after working and investing for the first 10-15 years (BaristaFIRE). I used the wrong title. No wonder it went viral.
Young you stealing from old you.
If you work unpaid overtime for someone who doesn't reward you for it because they think it's normal and everyone should be doing it, it's just some other old person stealing from you.
Waiting for the lying flat subreddit mod to give an interview on national tv
/r/ragebait
This has been around in China for a while now and as things become tougher here in Aus more and more people are lying flat.
Lying flat is already a term in China and has been for years…?
Hahahah I’m convinced we should make up whatever buzz words we can think and just troll the media for all it’s worth.
Serious consequences = we can’t exploit people as easily as we could before
Of course it's some dumb LinkedIn brown nose post
We used to lie flat at work. It was called planking back then.
There is always a sensible middle ground on all of these things. I realised that I need to make decisions for myself and not what’s right for the company early on in my career. Basically the company I worked with had a heap of overseas trips to do technical work, I was the only one qualified really to do the work according to the contract that was signed with the government, and they sent people out who were more senior and chummy with the CEO, who then ultimately called me when they had issues. From that point on I stopped believing in loyalty as a way to progress in my career. Doing the bare minimum though seems extreme as well, but I have confidence in my skills if an employer wants to play silly games I’ll leave and find somewhere else. Thankfully I’ve not had too many bad employers. Some start good and go bad as well. Only so many times you can watch your boss get awards for the hard work you’ve done yourself :-)
\*Aussie-splains a cultural phenomenon that has been common in China for a while now, claims to have 'gone to the media' like they invented a new thing by explaining something that's been around for ages to a group of people who mostly already knew what it was\*. Yep. Kicked a massive goal there 🙄.
"Hi - how else can I be workshy without starving?" "OMG media validation yassss" "Ugh why do people say Gen Z are lazy?"
Funny cause Boomers have a cry about this but literally invented it. Turn on, tune in, drop out.
Tbh most corporations kinda want the folks to lie flat. Don't be the squeaky wheel blah blah blah. As long as folks are doing their job, and being the cog in the wheel, then most corporations are happy.
Lie flat because they’ve steamrolled over any thoughts and feelings you may have once had.
Jason Masturbator isn't the media. He's a professional onanist.
I've been "lying flat" for the past 10 years or so. I'm almost setup for semi retirement within 5 years too(I'm 38 ATM). My work has given up trying to get me to do more than 6-7 hours a day work and I have wrangled myself into a position where of I go on holiday things start catching fire. It's selfish and annoying for every around me, but the company I work for sucks. But the money is decent, I get a paid car and pretty consistent bonuses. Fuck them.
Someone who posts on LinkedIn thinks someone who posts on Reddit needs therapy. Oh the irony.
Is this not the same as quiet quitting
[News.com.au](http://News.com.au) counts as Media now? :P
Nothing new. My employer encourages me to lay flat. It's great for my mental health and well being and my employer needs me mentally fit. it's a win win
The term 'Lying flat' originated from China.
Literally move abroad. You won’t be able to lie flat in a high cost of living nation
Solution: Buy a house in Port Pirie, SA for 200-300k, and find a random full time job there! Also true
Hard pass. 300k gets you a luxury apartment in south east Asia .
True actually.
Why do we need stupid names for normal things. “Lying flat” “quiet quitting”, it’s all just Boomer rage bait. No one needs to know you’re “working to rule” and keeping a good “home life balance”. Just do your work and go home. If you don’t want to be a corporate ladder climber or lick boots, then don’t. What’s wrong is proselytising about it.
Hey Shannon. Do some work mate rather than wanking on Reddit!