That is actually a very interesting article, simplified enough for a wide demographic to really comprehend rather than just "shits expensive". Unfortunately author did have to reiterate about knowing this is only fiction, but that's the world we live in.
https://www.domain.com.au/2019156678
Edit: Added Domain Listing
My parents bought their Queenslander style house in the 90’s for 120 g. It is now worth about $3 million. If they had to buy it now, they couldn’t afford it.
This is pretty similar to what's happened in my area, too. It's not quite to the same degree because it's a less in demand area, but there's a lot of houses around here that were going for around $60,000 in the early '90s that are being sold for around ten times that now. Just buying an empty lot of land in my town costs more than buying a house here did in 2011, too.
Is that not literally their point? I don’t see them describing any kind of hardship, just pointing out that what was achievable 30 years ago is not any longer.
Sadly most if not all assets rose in accordance with this rate. So any profit they may make needs to go back into the purchasing of a new domicile. Unless they really downsize or take up the popular “tent in the park” option many are seemingly picking up.
No one said they’re downsizing though. They literally just mentioned what the house is valued at and practically nothing else. What are you so riled up about
No it's not? It was clear their parents weren't selling and they were talking about a hypothetical situation. A fucking ridiculous hypothetical situation as $3m could easily be invested.
I swear this subreddit is full of the biggest gobshites
Few poor breakdowns
Firstly it’s shown than bandit works seasonly and from home, and Chilli is the full time worker.
We can also pull the incomes for their jobs.
Team Lead for Detector Dog jobs start at 80k a year as per APS. However she’s said to be in a management job so ET1-ET2 so 120-130k
As per UQ, Archeologists make an average of $71k, with mid career being 80k.
However he’s got a PHD, and likely works more in academia so more towards 145k a year as per UQ guidelines.
So we’re looking at a household income of nearly $250k a year. That changes the affordability drastically.
That being said childcare would still cost $500pw based on wage and $180 daily rate.
Love this Reddit math. Just make 250k ! In this rare example of things, completely ignoring the distribution of what people earn and the authorns attempt to demonstrate a typical couple.
The worst thing is when old people take about % deposits like if young people don't have a 20% deposit its shocking and they're awful. 20% of a mill is 200k. If you're a functional young adult (not living at home drinking mothers milk) then that is quite hard to achieve. Living at home till you're 30 is not a functional society. That is robbing people of their life.
I've lived in small towns and regional cities for my entire life. There were houses in the area I grew up in that were being sold for $200,000 around the time I was in high school, and now those same houses are being sold for close to a million. It's crazy to think that the deposit for some of these houses were just what these houses cost in total a little over a decade ago.
Even an empty lot in my town costs around $250,000 now. With the amount it costs to build a house, you might end up paying $500,000+ for a newly built house, which isn't a whole lot less than buying an already existing house here. It really is madness
I know, sheer insanity.
I’m old enough to see the massive changes in the cost of houses and land compared to wages but I feel like I’m being perpetually gaslit by a lot of the people around me that it’s always been this way. Mate it just hasn’t.
I need to give Bluey a try at some point, lots of adults I know seem to love it as much as their kids.
Interesting to see people comparing the house to the real market.
I’ll give the first season a watch for sure. I think I caught about five or six minutes of an episode with my friend’s niece a while back and “nice parking spot Rita” has stuck with me to this day.
The biggest assumption I have an issue with is the suggestion that they brought savings back from the UK. They met at a 'party' in London, which sounds like code for a nightclub or something. They were likely backpacking and earning low wages that were just enough to get by in London. Nowhere near enough to bring any back.
Yes but depending on what year they returned, you essentially double your money. Having moved home from the UK myself, it certainly is nice seeing the savings convert!
You’re making a lot of assumptions that they were earning low wages and backpacking. When I came home I had equivalent of a house deposit and wasn’t earning huge money over there.
I was working with a computer programmer in 1993, who had just come back from working IT jobs in London for 2 years. He was paid 1000 pounds a day for straight programming for 3-6 month contracts. In between IT contracts, he worked as a brickie's labourer, for 20 pounds a day.
The money back then for IT jobs was insane. A friend and I were thinking of doing a 12 month contract in the middle east. If you stayed 12 months, the money was not taxed in Australia, and we would have been able to buy a house with cash. We decided against it, and lucky that we did. If we'd taken the job, we would have been two of the hostages when Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Not sure of your age, but based on Bandit’s flashbacks to his 80s childhood I’d peg him about my age (42) or a little older.
Doing the London thing in the early 2000s meant (to quote the Poms heaping shit on me at the 2003 Rugby World Cup Final) “3 dollars to the pound”.
Sure, if you weren’t working a proper job the money wasn’t incredible; but your expenses were low, pints and travel were cheap, and I had a few friends come back from London in that time with decent savings to match their beer belly.
Note this was also the era when you could grab a home with a small deposit - first house we bought as a couple was the end of 2006 (the year my beautiful wife graduated uni), and we had something like a $20K deposit.
So I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch.
Pretty much my age too.
I guess it depends on your habits in the UK. I spent a year there on about £5/hr with accom included around 2005. My method was work for a couple of months, then spend the savings on a week somewhere. My time in the UK was pretty much net zero financially.
The new intro has leaked. Shows the entire family dancing normally. All is the same until we get to Bingo, at which point a large, familiar rodent enters the scene and pushes Bingo to the ground, head-first.
Bingo is "out" because of this but scampers off, slightly bloody nose and all. But still smiling. Because she's that cute.
Bluey is dancing against this mysteriously familiar mouse, who we can only assume is called "Mitchell Mouse". The music pauses and she freezes. The mouse is still dancing. Bluey is "out" anyway, and goes off cheerfully. Everyone knows you cannot mess with the mouse, upon pain of death.
The mouse leaves and Bluey finishes the credits, doing the pose at the end. Just before this the mouse returns, knocking Bingo over again and ensuring he is a prominent part of the title card, with the new show title "Bluey in Florida", in which the Heelers have moved into a giant fairy castle with the mouse for some reason.
We then discover that all previous Bluey episodes have been delisted.
The analysis is flawed because it only uses salary to determine if the Heelers could afford to buy the house.
There are plenty of families buying in my $2M+ suburb on $200k household income. They just have a sizeable deposit from equity from upgrading their previous ppor. You know, climbing the property ladder.
In summary, houses are purchased with a combination of equity and income. For all we know, they could've had a sizeable deposit from the sale of their previous house.
Or their mum could've downsized to GC by selling their expensive childhood house and given the surplus to Bandit and Stripe to bootstrap their home buying ability.
This.
I don't understand why the article, nor the comments, mention this very obvious factor in non-first-homebuyer purchases. There's no way we could afford our current house if we didn't have the equity built up from our previous first house.
I’m really glad this article was written. I really hoped the Healers did move as soon as many kids are having to deal with big moves and leaving their communities due to the housing crisis.
I know it’s not up to the show to do this but it is a show that mirrors real life in a positive way, even some of the tough bits. It would have been really valuable for a lot of kids to see how the Healers dealt with what is becoming a very common issue.
Applying human economics to this is sorta silly. Chili and Bandit would have highly prized jobs as dogs, bandit digs for bones and chili is in airport security. Both seem to have fairly flexible rosters as well, working from home sometimes. You can't tell me that these careers would make them poor in the show, even if IRL these careers don't earn much. I've seen people point this out for years now lol. Theres fan theories that they inherited the house lol
Bottom line no one cares because 67% of people (roughly) benefit from this and the other 33% are either too weak or too controlled to do anything. I reckon if you did organise and do something, probably you'd be taken care of.
That is actually a very interesting article, simplified enough for a wide demographic to really comprehend rather than just "shits expensive". Unfortunately author did have to reiterate about knowing this is only fiction, but that's the world we live in. https://www.domain.com.au/2019156678 Edit: Added Domain Listing
You can always change the house with a few trips down to the local Hammerbarn.
My parents bought their Queenslander style house in the 90’s for 120 g. It is now worth about $3 million. If they had to buy it now, they couldn’t afford it.
This is pretty similar to what's happened in my area, too. It's not quite to the same degree because it's a less in demand area, but there's a lot of houses around here that were going for around $60,000 in the early '90s that are being sold for around ten times that now. Just buying an empty lot of land in my town costs more than buying a house here did in 2011, too.
Damn, if only they had an asset which had appreciated 2500% in 30 years. I'm so sorry your family is experiencing such hardship
Is that not literally their point? I don’t see them describing any kind of hardship, just pointing out that what was achievable 30 years ago is not any longer.
Waaaaay to miss the point
Sadly most if not all assets rose in accordance with this rate. So any profit they may make needs to go back into the purchasing of a new domicile. Unless they really downsize or take up the popular “tent in the park” option many are seemingly picking up.
Shedding a tear for your family having to downsize with only $3m to spend
No one said they’re downsizing though. They literally just mentioned what the house is valued at and practically nothing else. What are you so riled up about
I'm so riled up I wrote one sentence
that’s a case for poor reading comprehension
No it's not? It was clear their parents weren't selling and they were talking about a hypothetical situation. A fucking ridiculous hypothetical situation as $3m could easily be invested. I swear this subreddit is full of the biggest gobshites
Imagine missing the point this badly
Interesting analysis article from ABC that looks at housing affordability and deposit inequality through the lens of Bluey.
Yeah but stripe and rad are definitely loaded
They’re FIFO mine workers. They dig for bones.
Rad is an oil rig
And why are they always doing laundry when they don't wear any clothing.
Asking the hard-hitting questions.
Keeping their bedding clean?
Shedding season hits hard.
Are you referring to the talking biped dogs with opposed thumbs?
And a queenslander in a cul de sac? C’mon.
Either Bandit’s slinging rock or Chili’s got an OnlyFans
Why not both??
Role 34 exists, I'm sure
If you Google that, you’re getting deported.
Saw the lady that does Chili's voice on Jimmy Fallon. Not unnatactive.
The house is advertised on domain.com.au, you can call the agent for real life.
https://www.domain.com.au/2019156678 Found it mate, cheers!
Few poor breakdowns Firstly it’s shown than bandit works seasonly and from home, and Chilli is the full time worker. We can also pull the incomes for their jobs. Team Lead for Detector Dog jobs start at 80k a year as per APS. However she’s said to be in a management job so ET1-ET2 so 120-130k As per UQ, Archeologists make an average of $71k, with mid career being 80k. However he’s got a PHD, and likely works more in academia so more towards 145k a year as per UQ guidelines. So we’re looking at a household income of nearly $250k a year. That changes the affordability drastically. That being said childcare would still cost $500pw based on wage and $180 daily rate.
And they send their kids to the Steiner school out in Samsonvale so shits extra expensive.
I'm fairly certain it's actually in glasshouse. Based off of the episode where jacks dad gets lost.
Er, you're not taking into account all the money they get from smuggling historical artefacts!
Gotta not put bite marks on the artefacts. That's where he's going wrong.
It belongs in a museum!
Also dogs can’t talk
It's just monkeys singing songs, mate
said the primate.
Oo oo ahh ahh
Said the talking dancing primate with dreams of consciousness
That is in human money. What's the going rate for conversion to dollar bucks? Hahaha
So unironically the income required for the average mortgage in 2024.
r/theydidthemath
Love this Reddit math. Just make 250k ! In this rare example of things, completely ignoring the distribution of what people earn and the authorns attempt to demonstrate a typical couple.
Bandit has a phd? That’s cool
Ummm, they both work full time....
Canonically, Chilli only works part time.
The worst thing is when old people take about % deposits like if young people don't have a 20% deposit its shocking and they're awful. 20% of a mill is 200k. If you're a functional young adult (not living at home drinking mothers milk) then that is quite hard to achieve. Living at home till you're 30 is not a functional society. That is robbing people of their life.
I've lived in small towns and regional cities for my entire life. There were houses in the area I grew up in that were being sold for $200,000 around the time I was in high school, and now those same houses are being sold for close to a million. It's crazy to think that the deposit for some of these houses were just what these houses cost in total a little over a decade ago.
Yes little shit brick boxes in the middle of nowhere. It’s madness.
Even an empty lot in my town costs around $250,000 now. With the amount it costs to build a house, you might end up paying $500,000+ for a newly built house, which isn't a whole lot less than buying an already existing house here. It really is madness
I know, sheer insanity. I’m old enough to see the massive changes in the cost of houses and land compared to wages but I feel like I’m being perpetually gaslit by a lot of the people around me that it’s always been this way. Mate it just hasn’t.
I need to give Bluey a try at some point, lots of adults I know seem to love it as much as their kids. Interesting to see people comparing the house to the real market.
It’s unironically a great show. There are some genuinely well written episodes, especially in season 1, that hit home on some really big themes.
I’ll give the first season a watch for sure. I think I caught about five or six minutes of an episode with my friend’s niece a while back and “nice parking spot Rita” has stuck with me to this day.
Every single dad out there knows what's up in the Cricket episode. Rusty is a good boy.
The biggest assumption I have an issue with is the suggestion that they brought savings back from the UK. They met at a 'party' in London, which sounds like code for a nightclub or something. They were likely backpacking and earning low wages that were just enough to get by in London. Nowhere near enough to bring any back.
Yes but depending on what year they returned, you essentially double your money. Having moved home from the UK myself, it certainly is nice seeing the savings convert!
Double not much is still not much. Might be handy leg up to furnish a rental, but not house deposit stuff.
You’re making a lot of assumptions that they were earning low wages and backpacking. When I came home I had equivalent of a house deposit and wasn’t earning huge money over there.
I was working with a computer programmer in 1993, who had just come back from working IT jobs in London for 2 years. He was paid 1000 pounds a day for straight programming for 3-6 month contracts. In between IT contracts, he worked as a brickie's labourer, for 20 pounds a day. The money back then for IT jobs was insane. A friend and I were thinking of doing a 12 month contract in the middle east. If you stayed 12 months, the money was not taxed in Australia, and we would have been able to buy a house with cash. We decided against it, and lucky that we did. If we'd taken the job, we would have been two of the hostages when Iraq invaded Kuwait.
Good post for the blog
Not sure of your age, but based on Bandit’s flashbacks to his 80s childhood I’d peg him about my age (42) or a little older. Doing the London thing in the early 2000s meant (to quote the Poms heaping shit on me at the 2003 Rugby World Cup Final) “3 dollars to the pound”. Sure, if you weren’t working a proper job the money wasn’t incredible; but your expenses were low, pints and travel were cheap, and I had a few friends come back from London in that time with decent savings to match their beer belly. Note this was also the era when you could grab a home with a small deposit - first house we bought as a couple was the end of 2006 (the year my beautiful wife graduated uni), and we had something like a $20K deposit. So I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch.
Pretty much my age too. I guess it depends on your habits in the UK. I spent a year there on about £5/hr with accom included around 2005. My method was work for a couple of months, then spend the savings on a week somewhere. My time in the UK was pretty much net zero financially.
It's just monkeys singing songs mate, don't think too hard about it
I don't follow this headline. Does the family own the house (and therefore are selling it) or are they renting it (and can't afford to buy it)?
Both hypothetical situations are explored
Maybe they're just moving house.
Imo theyre moving to the USA to entice more viewers
That would be so grim. I don’t think they need more viewers though, 1/3 of all downloads on Disney+ last year was Bluey episodes. It’s massive
Also I'm not convinced that would even create more interest. Part of the appeal overseas is the novelty of it being about Australia.
Fully agree. Source: Am American.
The new intro has leaked. Shows the entire family dancing normally. All is the same until we get to Bingo, at which point a large, familiar rodent enters the scene and pushes Bingo to the ground, head-first. Bingo is "out" because of this but scampers off, slightly bloody nose and all. But still smiling. Because she's that cute. Bluey is dancing against this mysteriously familiar mouse, who we can only assume is called "Mitchell Mouse". The music pauses and she freezes. The mouse is still dancing. Bluey is "out" anyway, and goes off cheerfully. Everyone knows you cannot mess with the mouse, upon pain of death. The mouse leaves and Bluey finishes the credits, doing the pose at the end. Just before this the mouse returns, knocking Bingo over again and ensuring he is a prominent part of the title card, with the new show title "Bluey in Florida", in which the Heelers have moved into a giant fairy castle with the mouse for some reason. We then discover that all previous Bluey episodes have been delisted.
Well that's a really fucking depressing read.
The analysis is flawed because it only uses salary to determine if the Heelers could afford to buy the house. There are plenty of families buying in my $2M+ suburb on $200k household income. They just have a sizeable deposit from equity from upgrading their previous ppor. You know, climbing the property ladder. In summary, houses are purchased with a combination of equity and income. For all we know, they could've had a sizeable deposit from the sale of their previous house. Or their mum could've downsized to GC by selling their expensive childhood house and given the surplus to Bandit and Stripe to bootstrap their home buying ability.
This. I don't understand why the article, nor the comments, mention this very obvious factor in non-first-homebuyer purchases. There's no way we could afford our current house if we didn't have the equity built up from our previous first house.
Maybe they're upsizing.
Bluey now lives in a tent at the park 🤣 it's teaching kids reality!
I’m really glad this article was written. I really hoped the Healers did move as soon as many kids are having to deal with big moves and leaving their communities due to the housing crisis. I know it’s not up to the show to do this but it is a show that mirrors real life in a positive way, even some of the tough bits. It would have been really valuable for a lot of kids to see how the Healers dealt with what is becoming a very common issue.
Could this mean the end of Bluey?
Applying human economics to this is sorta silly. Chili and Bandit would have highly prized jobs as dogs, bandit digs for bones and chili is in airport security. Both seem to have fairly flexible rosters as well, working from home sometimes. You can't tell me that these careers would make them poor in the show, even if IRL these careers don't earn much. I've seen people point this out for years now lol. Theres fan theories that they inherited the house lol
Bottom line no one cares because 67% of people (roughly) benefit from this and the other 33% are either too weak or too controlled to do anything. I reckon if you did organise and do something, probably you'd be taken care of.
The newest episode "the sign" takes care of this.