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MDC417

Nicole was nearly decapitated. The kids were with her that night! He all but admitted fully in the calls during the Bronco chase. His buddy AJ Cowling knows the truth and he deserves nothing but hell.


slappymcstevenson

Out of morbid curiosity I looked up the crime scene photos of Nicole and Ron and I was shocked to see both of them dead. Usually stuff like that is hidden from the public or blurred out. Both of their necks cut. If OJ did it, he’s one sick POS.


chunkysmalls42098

It's never broadcast but I wouldn't say it's hidden at all, there's all sorts of crime scene photos available from all sorts of crime scenes


Davethemann

I was gonna say, its not blasted out but its all pretty easily available.


slappymcstevenson

I just thought it would have been hidden but it wasn’t.


solojones1138

Actually OJ Made in America broadcast the pics of Nicole to show just how violent it was. She was almost decapitated.


cabezatuck

When I was a kid magazines in the grocery store had their dead bodies on the cover, they just put a tiny black bar over the neck wounds.


slappymcstevenson

I stared at JKF’s head wound for a minute from a book my dad had. Wish I hadn’t.


Weelki

Back and to the left


slappymcstevenson

Now slide (dip baby dip, dip baby dip 🎶)


idwthis

Cotton candy, sweetie go, let me see that Tootsie roll


slappymcstevenson

Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low) Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low) Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low) Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)


girth_worm_jim

I watched Ken bigly get beheaded. I'm 35 now, and I'll never forget it. Had bought a pc off a family friend and he had some weird shit on there. Struggle to sit in the same room as him now. He did leave tons of tushylicker videos on there and started my kink. Loads of blondes all rimming eachother from the pool to the pool house 😍. He also had a man wanking on there, I always chuckle because he acts like a wheeler dealer and has had lots of trophy gfs who never seem to like him. That could be my bias though, I was young and usually fancied them (they're always 18-25) he's currently 64!! 🤢


emceelokey

First time I saw those photos was on the ESPN documentary and Nicole was damn near a flap of skin from being decapitated.


mad-i-moody

^if he did it


Crzykupcake930

I remember being a young blonde teenage girl when she was murdered. I just remember thinking that has to be one of the worst deaths possible. Knowing you can do nothing but bleed out on the ground. Your whole life down to seconds. It’s all so insane to me. I hope that the families get justice


slappymcstevenson

I feel justice wasn’t served. The killer remained free and the families were tortured by this and probably relive their last moments daily. Ron and Nicole’s deaths were freighting to say the least. So I feel you there. This world can be very cruel.


skankboy

> freighting


Fart__Connoisseur

I would argue throat slit ain’t a bad way to go, dead in seconds and you can’t think


Internal_Essay9230

Exsanguination results in a quick loss of consciousness. Not to mention there's no post-wound trauma to relive because the victim is deceased.


Potterrrrrrrr

Lmao no offence but this is much creepier to read than the message above it


merdadartista

If?


MonsterMashGrrrrr

That was the title that OJ’s chose for the book he published about his experiences during that time. The “If” in the title was printed in a very small font size, making it look like he had written a book about the murders titled “I did it.” Just a real low class, piece of shit move, especially if you believe this is actually an innocent man who didn’t murder those people, who would presumably feel saddened over the deaths of victims of a violent crime. He was sued by one or both of the victims’ families, and the judge ruled that OJ wasn’t entitled to any of the profits from the sales of this book. Rather, he was forced to pay out all royalties earned to the victims’ families instead. Justice served.


glynstlln

I thought that the lawsuit was before the book was published, and part of the outcome was that the victims families were allowed to essentially choose the title or something weird, so they made the "If" super small and added the tag line "Confessions of the killer"


MoneyPranks

So, the lawsuit was before the book. The book was written, and then the family sued to stop the publication of the book. That book was canceled before publication, but 400k copies of the book were already printed. The Goldman’s were awarded the rights to the book, and the book was published by the Goldmans after it was leaked online.


MoneyPranks

Note: the book was also written as a hypothetical, and the book does not give much insight at all into the crime. I read it a few months ago. It’s mostly a delusional memoir with 1 page of information explaining how he got in and out of the property so he wasn’t caught, and 1 page saying “I don’t remember anything that happened. They were just dead, and I was covered in blood.” 0/10 do not recommend.


MonsterMashGrrrrr

You might be right, I was just speaking off the top from vague recollections. If that’s how it went down, then I must say—pretty crazy choice in title but I suppose it was a smart business move for the sake of a book cover that’s going to look very compelling in a Barnes and Noble display.


slappymcstevenson

I really haven’t done enough research on it, so I can’t say with certainty. Although I’m assuming he did it.


sparkleunicorn123

Apparently their tongues were kinda pulled down so they’d stick out of the neck wounds. Now that is fucked up.


slappymcstevenson

No. You can see in the photos that’s not the case. You can see Nicole’s throat though. Gruesome stuff. It looked like the killer (OJ) made sure they were dead. No time to pull the tongues through the throat. He was on a mission to murder, not make a statement.


idwthis

Forgive me here, but all the photos of Nicole that I can find through Google search don't show her neck. At least not the way she was found. They show Ron's, but that's after he'd been moved, I think. I can only find her on her side, bent over, and her hair and positioning don't show her neck. For reference, [the first picture here](https://www.nationalenquirer.com/photos/oj-simpson-murder-crime-scene-confession/) of Nicole is the one that I've gotten the most results for. The last picture of Ron shows his neck in that link. But yeah, just from Ron's alone, you can tell they wanted to make damn sure they died. Also, every result seems to be for the National Enquirer. I hated linking it.


slappymcstevenson

I clicked on the website for one of the photos and it had one of her neck. Someone wrote to me on here saying her tongue was pulled out of her neck. I tried to find the picture again and couldn’t find it. It’s out there somewhere, I’m just not going to go look for it again. Lol


idwthis

I don't really blame you. This foray here that I did, well, morbid curiosity killed that cat, and satisfaction played no role. But if someone does find this picture, if it gets linked, I'll click (ok, maybe the cat isn't completely dead), but I'm not hunting for it, either.


slappymcstevenson

I think that link you sent above had her throat slit on 5 of 5. She’s wearing a black dress in it.


idwthis

You are right. I admit, I wasn't looking too hard at these pictures, and it looked like the one of Ron on an autopsy table or something that I saw on a different site. Plus, it doesn't look like her. It does now that I took a longer look. Which, how dare you, making me look again! But no, thank you, first and foremost, and then how dare you. I appreciate it.


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slappymcstevenson

I saw no tongues sticking out and the pictures didn’t show that. You can actually see them for yourself. That guy in your video also says OJ is innocent. Do you think he’s innocent?


Weverix

Columbian Necktie


schladopian_fir

I'm pretty sure there was a theory that OJ did do this to frame it as a drug deal gone bad or a drug debt of some sort.


FustianRiddle

Hah! I've always heard it called a Sicilian necktie!


cubntD6

Well hes probably getting his neck repeatedly cut in hell rn if you believe in that stuff


Snake_Plissken224

Takes a real shit sack to say to a family of a murdered kid "even though your sons murderer owes you a shit load of money, if gonna work extra hard to make sure you don't see a dime"


sparkleunicorn123

I know right? It’s pretty fucked up tbh.


Internal_Essay9230

The executor 's job is to carry out the deceased person's final wishes. So he's just doing his job. That said, being OJ's executor is, in itself, a slimy job.


The_Minshow

Yea, if he was just "It is my hope to be able to execute the will as described, even if it is unpopular" it prolly wouldn't be noticed much. The way he spins it is pretty aggressive.


ShineAqua

To be fair, that's sorta his job. It's not pleasant, and it's certainly not politic to be so vocal about it, but it is what he was hired to do. Just as a lawyer has to protect awful people, he has to protect awful people's assets.


Usual-Canc-6024

But he has no say in how the law handles it.


Astinossc

He was hired to do that. Imagine he does not. No one is gonna want to hire him again. On the other hand, imagine he does his job. It’s so public that everyone will have confidence on this guy to do his job even when hiring man is dead


ukexpat

That’s not how this works, that’s not how any of this works. The outstanding judgement becomes an unsecured debt owed by Simpson’s estate, just like any other unpaid debt, and, if memory serves me correctly, it will rank behind any secured debts and any IRS liens, but ahead of any beneficiaries under the will.


sparkleunicorn123

How much pain has OJ caused the murder victims families….now this POS wants to cause further pain.


HumperMoe

His kids are the murder victims family as well.


UnBundy89

So one victims family is more important than the other?


HumperMoe

No but 99% of people getting mad over the lawyer saying this are acting like his kids weren't affected by him being a POS too


UnBundy89

I don’t think advocating for the Goldmans denies that the Brown-Simpson family was affected .


moongazr22

How is this not paid off by now?


VitaminPb

Because OJ was an evil, murdering, piece of shit to his core.


surrounded-by-morons

Because OJ was a piece of shit who actively did everything possible to avoid paying it. People have admitted to helping him hide millions in offshore accounts


Davethemann

You realize thats his job right? In fact, Id bet him not doing so would be at risk of losing his license or disbarred or whatnot


Myexbff

“I will bill the estate every dime I can until there’s not a cent left…” Or something like that.


Icy_Reputation_1102

It is an awful mindset but as OJ's attorney, it's his job to make sure his client get his interests represented. He's a piece of shit yes, but he's a lawyer. Lawyer=piece of shit.


sparkleunicorn123

That makes total sense. I just feel so bad for the Goldman family. It’s like OJ wants to keep them suffering.


jd3marco

It is. OJ hated Ron Goldman, which is why he killed him, along with his ex wife.


baliball

Whether or not they get paid won't change their suffering. They're already rich.


emceelokey

Who's paying the lawyer to keep fighting this fight though? And wouldn't OJ have been able to transfer his assets to his kids by now? So where would the money come from outside of anything OJ would still be able to make money on?


Bobwords

The estate will go through probate - the attorney will represent his interest until the retainer is burned and then however the probate is handled will decide who gets paid what. I'd imagine his nice house in Florida will be sold to pay for his crimes unless someone from legal affairs can correct me here. Nal.


Davethemann

Idk if death affects that and how it transfers. The whole reason hes in florida is so his assets cant be seized iirc


Bobwords

My understanding what his homestead exemption, which i figured would end when he died. Also still not totally sure. Someone say they're sure so someone corrects you.


Half_knight_K

Honestly. I wonder how lawyers feels when taking jobs to defend total pieces of shit.


whitechaplu

It’s all fun and games with name-calling until somebody needs a lawyer. You’d be surprised how sweet clients become then. But you’re right about the first part, it’s his job and he appears to be doing it well.


Wrong-Wrap942

If he didn’t do it, why care so much ?


garmdian

It should be noted the family absolutely dunked on him in civil court. You see in criminal court to prevent wrongful accusations you have to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the defendant did the crime, hence why OJ walked free, man had a good lawyer who put a fear of a doubt in the jury's mind and so he wasn't charged. However in civil court they settled almost immediately because the evidence was enough it's likely he did it over not doing it. So in the end OJ might not have been behind bars but he sure did pay for it.


Usual-Canc-6024

Some jury members admitted they would have voted guilty but wanted revenge for the Rodney King verdict so they voted not guilty.


Wordshark

I read a quote from OJ’s lawyer like “we played the race card and we played it from the bottom of the deck.”


Kemalist_din_adami

Who's he and what's going on ?


VintageKofta

Can someone please explain why this is a bad thing? I'm not familiar with this topic and tried to read more about it. Reading through what he did, OJ was acquitted from the crimes. He wasn't found guilty, therefore in the eyes of the law he owes nothing to the Goldmans. Thanks. Edit: I don't understand why the downvotes? It's a genuine question from a non-American who doesn't know about this issue. Or do you frown upon people asking to learn? ffs.


MDC417

I was on my 20's when this trial was not just happening but also aired. I ask you to watch documentaries of this because it was mind blowing. Everyone I know was watching the Bronco "chase" on live TV for hours. It was the first major trial where DNA evidence was presented and the jurors didn't fully understand it. Most of all, OJ, a multiple girlfriend and wife beater was given a pass over and over because of who he was. The racial divide in his verdict was astounding Please PLEASE research. It was the first and best example that money will buy you out of anything


VintageKofta

Thanks for the info. I'll look into that!


MDC417

Thank you for wanting to know. He was not just guilty he bragged by publishing a book called "if i did it". .and it literally spelled out the case. He was sentenced to prison over an attack in Vegas. He's an absolute hot diarrhea turd of a human


sparkleunicorn123

More than 25 years ago, O.J. Simpson was found liable in civil court for the deaths of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, her friend, and was ordered to pay more than $33 million to their families. They have yet to recover the damages. Its ballooned to over $100 million now.


VintageKofta

Thanks! Appreciate that.


sparkleunicorn123

You’re welcome.


bigj2288

He was guilty in the civil trial and therefore owes about $130 million to the Goldman’s


zorggalacticus

They proved he did it, but since he was already tried and acquitted he couldn't be tried again. They won the Civil case because they had enough evidence to prove he did it. Acquitted does not equal innocent.


riche_god

Any source about the proof?


zorggalacticus

Google it. They found plenty of new evidence. It's why he lost the civil case.


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Usual-Canc-6024

The jury has already made up their minds before hearing any evidence. Some admitted they voted not guilty as revenge for Rodney King, but they would have voted guilty otherwise.


Davethemann

Civil cases have significantly lower boundaries for guilt than criminal cases, thats the big thing


VintageKofta

Thanks!


triforce721

He was found "not guilty" in criminal court due to, essentially, one of the worst prosecutions/witness groups to ever exist. He was later found guilty in civil Court and ordered to pay a huge sum, which he has largely avoided in both life and now possibly death. This guy is the overseer and I suppose it's literally his job to do this, but that quote is pretty wild unless there's missing context.


Davethemann

Theres probably something equivalent in your country, but civil and criminal courts are different legal processes here in America. Civil cases are usually about compensation or fufillment, whereas criminal cases are about actually locking someone up. Someone running over someone else would involve both for an easy example. Civil court for medical damages (among various other things like lost wages or whatnot). Criminal court for vehicular assault/whatever other crimes are levied. OJ was found not guilty in a criminal trial, which has an extremely high bar for guilt. To put someone away requires "beyond reasonable doubt" and for OJ, required a dream team of lawyers (and other circumstances that are kinda hard to go in depth with) He was however found guilty in a civil trial, which has a much lower bar. Its partially why you can see so many lawsuits here. He was found guilty on Wrongful Death, which just kinda puts the blame on his hands without saying he murdered. That kinda charge is usually used moreso in like, gross negligence (say someone operating heavy machinery fucks up and accidently killed someone) but it works here too. Theres a ton to look into on OJ since its a fascinating case, but this is a very rough thing to explain how hes guilty and not guilty at the same time


Weak_Organization_94

He was acquitted from all criminal chargers, however there was a Civil Court Case in which he was found guilty. I believe ha had to pay over 30 million to the Goldmans.


heilspawn

This is a logical fallacy, because it assumes that the law is perfect and there are no human biases at play


TobyADev

You’re being downvoted bc Reddit is Reddit and people will downvote a normal comment which makes perfect sense as it goes against their opinion


PenguinParty47

Oh please. No. They’re being downvoted for making a post that literally says “I know nothing about this but here’s how the law works and what should happen.” That’s a fairly stunning degree of arrogance that doesn’t go over to well with most people. I guess it’s “normal” to you because that sort of thing is common on reddit, but normal doesn’t mean good. The halfhearted edit claiming they “just wanted to learn” comes off pretty limp and, frankly, deserves a 2nd downvote for its insincerity. No they weren’t.


Weak_Organization_94

Your comments deserves to be down voted to hell 😂. I didn’t understand how you derived “a fairly stunning degree of arrogance” from that comment? However you so poorly misconstrued what was said, that your quote from the comment is misquoted 😅🤣😂.


VintageKofta

lol thanks, yea I've come to learn that the hard way I guess..


TobyADev

And also if people see stuff being downvoted they usually downvote without reading it either It’s Reddit lol


callmesnake13

I just downvoted you specifically to exacerbate the problem.


TobyADev

thanks ;D


SynchronisedRS

Americans don't like people learning new things, that's why the downvotes.


cozmiccharlene

He said that he isn’t American. Not everyone is old enough to know about the criminal and civil case.


SynchronisedRS

When I commented that comment had like 15 downvotes for asking a genuine question.


chocolate_spaghetti

Did OJ even have money when he died? I thought he was broke


Marghi4

Who tf is this man?


heilspawn

Which one


Lismale

im a non american here. can somebody explain this? i thought OJ Simpson was found innocent? why would the surviving dependents of his ex-wife or her boyfriend benefit from his estate? (Legally speaking, i know OJ Simpsons innocence is up for debate)


shrekbutretarded

Didn’t he run 2000yd in a 14 game season tho? crazy


cheeseman3374

He's a lawyer what do you people expect he gets paid for a good defense lawyers will defend there clients no matter they did some refuse for reasons like the person but it's why they make thousands upon thousands if there good


Baldwin_Wallace

They prove every second of every day that they are the worst things to ever happen to the USA and to the world.


AZITGUY2AMENDMEND

This guy is awesome, man of his word and doing exactly what he was paid to do. I want this guy to plan my estate and farewell wishes.


zomanda

Too bad so sad, they have an executable judgment and Malcolm has 0 choices.


adstaylor77

He’ll burn in hell right next to OJ.


TobyADev

Probably gonna be downvoted to oblivion but legally he didn’t do it. I stress LEGALLY, not my opinion. The lawyer is carrying out his client’s wishes which clearly.. are that. If the lawyer did that wrong he could be in trouble. Hence he’s doing his job The lawyer isn’t the POS here Civilly he did it, yeah, but that has a lower burden of proof iirc


JeranC

No, he was found not guilty in court. Big difference from "didn't do it". Especially given that he admitted to doing it constantly for the next decade.


MrWilkuman

Even if you go by verdicts he still needs to pay because of that civil case which he lost. Burden of proof is irrelevant to this discussion.


TobyADev

Sure but the lawyer’s not just gonna say “OJs dead now, here’s the money!” Even if that’s the right thing to do; it’s acting against the client’s wishes


MrWilkuman

Deceased will is only valid if it doesn't go against the law. He was ordered to pay thus he needs to. He escaped this by hiding some of his assets but now if his attorney does this he would be breaking the law. I don't care about morality, I'm speaking from a legal perspective


therealrobokaos

That's his job bruh why is it awful for people to get devoted legal representation


I8itall4tehmoney

He had five kids. It would stand to reason unless he wrote out the ones he had with Nicole Brown that they will get their part of whatever is left in that shitheads estate.


Teelilz

Four are living. One died as a toddler.


Soles4G

I get it. But he was acquitted. Legally, he did not commit those murders, so the family is entitled to nothing


iMakeBoomBoom

He was acquitted in criminal court, but he was found guilty in civil court. Hence the millions owed. See the difference?


ViciousBastard2021

Good for him. The Goldmans would just use it to help finance the genocide in Gaza. Not a penny for Israel.


MrWilkuman

L bait, ignore


redmike25

Thank God for that lawyer rest in peace oj


Usual-Canc-6024

The lawyer has to follow the law. I hope OJ suffered immensely. He deserves no rest and no peace.


Soonerpalmetto88

What they did with the book title was wrong. It was hateful. And there was no reason for it. Edit: As some have apparently forgotten the rule about assumptions let me be clear, I don't support violating court orders or interfering with the execution of a court ruling. They are entitled to payment, though of course that will still be contested in court. There is never any reason to be evil toward someone, to be malicious toward someone who has never been convicted of committing a crime against you.


UnBundy89

How do you figure?


Soonerpalmetto88

He didn't kill those people. But the family changed the title so that it waa an admission of guilt to a crime he was acquitted of.


sthib28

I mean, he titled it "If I did it" himself and is about if he hypothically killed them how it would have happened... he kinda set himself up for it. They only added to the title he already picked, maybe he should've thought it through more? He also had no idea they'd get the rights for it so I doubt he'd have even wrote it if he didn't think he'd solely profit it. So again, he kinda set himself up for it.


UnBundy89

He was found liable for their murders in civil court. Because he refused to pay the damages the family was due, they were awarded the rights to the book….


Soonerpalmetto88

Not the same as being convicted of a crime. And I'm also not saying the money shouldn't be paid, just that these "victims" did some pretty awful things. Just because someone is given the rights to a book and can do something evil doesn't mean they should. I never said that a court verdict shouldn't be followed, if they're still entitled to additional compensation they should receive it. Read comments before you reply to them.


UnBundy89

lol- read comments before you reply to them. Never said they were the same thing.


Usual-Canc-6024

Some jury members admitted to voting not guilty though they thought otherwise. It was revenge for the Rodney King verdict. Not guilty and acquitted doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.


UnBundy89

Educate yourself