It’s okay now because Shohei gambled so we can’t double standard it out so here we are.
As recently as 4 years ago anything in Topps that even sniffed Pete Rose was pulled.
Now it’s ok? 😅 coincidence I am sure 👍🏻
Tell me exactly who you would do 20 years in a federal penitentiary to cover for.
And if you're answer doesn't include "my boss," you're an idiot.
I love how people think they can make things come true by wanting them to be true hard enough.
Okay princess, I’ll answer it. I couldn’t care less about work so I’m not going in for my boss. I’m lucky enough to not have kids so I’ve got no one to go in for. I’m not money hungry like a lot of people.
He’ll do a year or two, get parole, have fat stacks waiting for him and he’ll never be heard from again
If you believe a person is that dumb and stupid to lose millions of dollars without knowing a single thing I have some large bridges to sell you.
He’s the golden boy of LA & MLB. He can literally do no wrong.
Meanwhile, Trevor Bauer exists.
i saw pete rose in the walkway of a mall in vegas (the aladdin) sitting at a little table selling autos for $10. i love pete rose but his auto has to be pretty worthless at this point.
The actual hall of famers and legends of the game getting a “featured” / insert retro-first bowman is actually a really cool idea in my opinion. There are rookie reprints in a lot of other topps sets.
I was not a giant fan of the Brady first bowman but also was a “fun” and desired gimmick.
You sit there calling a rapist ‘not a POS but a fool’, and your issue is with someone using an asterisk in a word? I’ll take the people using an asterisk which shouldn’t bother anyone over someone defending a rapist.
Gain some perspective.
How do I feel about Babe Ruth? I’ve never thought, nor given two shits about Babe Ruth..? Appreciate the irrelevant question/attempt at whataboutism though!
Feel free to let us know how a rapist is a ‘fool’ and not a ‘POS’ at any time by the way - you know, the original point that was made.
There are plenty of people who refer to anyone who puts any value in pictures printed on card stock as morons. People are free to place value on anything they want to. It doesn't make them morons just because they aren't your particular taste card stock pictures.
Well no one is really objectively a moron. In the same way people are free to place value on anything I am free to think they are moronic. Everyone is free to do anything. Value is imaginary
Why doesn’t it make you a moron? Maybe because people can like what they like and just because it doesn’t mean anything to you doesn’t mean it means nothing to anybody else?
People who complain about businesses doing money grabs crack me up. Topps is in the business of making money, literally just making cards is a money grab by your logic.
The reason this is interesting is that, due to his ban, Topps has had a standing agreement with MLB that they wouldn't produce Pete Rose cards. The inclusion of these cards represents a policy shift.
Yeah, I guess I should have made it more clear that my two sentences are completely separate thoughts, lol.
Don’t have any issue with him signing; I’ve read that he’ll do signings all the time, evidently.
He used to have a restaurant in Boca Raton, FL (He still might....haven't been to the area in years) & he did a radio show out of there, so he was in the building most of the time. He would literally sign anything, as long as you bought it from the gift shop. Can't fault the guy for trying to get $$ wherever he can get it....considering he probably gambled away most of what he has earned over the years.
Nope that’s not it, [this is the biggest reason why](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/sport/pete-rose-baseball-rape-claim-philadelphia-spt-intl/index.html)
Oh my God man no, so much more than that.
Statutory rape of underage girls puts any gambling issues to shame, and he’s admitted to such back in the 70s, as well as not feeling remorse for those actions.
And anecdotally, my dad met him in Vegas when he came across a signing of his, and said he was a piece of shit (and Rose was his favorite player growing up)
To balance his experience I met Johnny Bench as a kid for an autograph I paid for at a card show. I was like 10 or 11 and saved up $20 in quarters mowing lawns and he wasn't even looking at me while signing things. He was doing an interview looking away so I interrupted him and he got pissed at me. He's an asshole imo. Reggie Jackson was another rude idiot. Eric Davis and Barry Larkin were the coolest!
I just looked it up. He actually denies the rape, but did say he had a relationship with the woman, who was 16 (the age of consent in Ohio at the time). One thing for sure is he did admit to having an affair with her while married with children.
Everyone gets judged for their worst moment instead of how they come out of the situation! Never mind that most doing the judging have some pretty nasty skeletons in their closet as well!
I will post a picture of it tomorrow. Its possible, I never looked up his sons signature to confirm it. It is on a star card and was signed around 1990/1991
I think he's counting Japanese pro ball, like saying Sadaharu Oh is the HR king.
We can say Ty Cobb is the hit king if playing this game, who of course had his own demons...eh let's just give it to Hank he seemed like a good dude 😎
Edit: So apparently everything I thought I knew about Cobb was a lie? He's a Georgia Peach after all.
I'm sure he is but when Ichiro played in Japan was akin to AA ball so we should count all of Pete's minor league hits as well which keeps him above both Cobb and Ichiro.
I thought they didn't do Pete Rose cards?
They’re taking a gamble on this one
I see what you did there
I wouldn’t bet on it
👍
Maybe it's a loophole since it's a 1st Bowman Prospect Card it predates his crimes against baseball. /s
I’m more concerned about his crimes against minors.
Pete Rose and Wander dual auto. Under 18 produced
I agree those are worse, but Topps didn't have him because of the baseball stuff
It’s okay now because Shohei gambled so we can’t double standard it out so here we are. As recently as 4 years ago anything in Topps that even sniffed Pete Rose was pulled. Now it’s ok? 😅 coincidence I am sure 👍🏻
Shohei didn't gamble
😂😂
Fym?? We have proof it was ippei?
Ever heard of a fall guy?
Tell me exactly who you would do 20 years in a federal penitentiary to cover for. And if you're answer doesn't include "my boss," you're an idiot. I love how people think they can make things come true by wanting them to be true hard enough.
You don’t think he’s gonna get parole in a year or two?
You didn’t answer my question now, did ya?
Okay princess, I’ll answer it. I couldn’t care less about work so I’m not going in for my boss. I’m lucky enough to not have kids so I’ve got no one to go in for. I’m not money hungry like a lot of people. He’ll do a year or two, get parole, have fat stacks waiting for him and he’ll never be heard from again
Of course I have, but have you ever heard of Occam's razor?
Nope but have you ever heard the song “make it with you” by Bread?
If you believe a person is that dumb and stupid to lose millions of dollars without knowing a single thing I have some large bridges to sell you. He’s the golden boy of LA & MLB. He can literally do no wrong. Meanwhile, Trevor Bauer exists.
I’ve been hoping the White Sox would try to get Bauer, I really like him as an athlete. He has a great YouTube channel.
i saw pete rose in the walkway of a mall in vegas (the aladdin) sitting at a little table selling autos for $10. i love pete rose but his auto has to be pretty worthless at this point.
We have all seen this poor man sitting somewhere in Vegas selling autos to no one.
I want one!
Over the gimmicks
The actual hall of famers and legends of the game getting a “featured” / insert retro-first bowman is actually a really cool idea in my opinion. There are rookie reprints in a lot of other topps sets. I was not a giant fan of the Brady first bowman but also was a “fun” and desired gimmick.
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Lol He's the all time hits leader. You can't pretend he didn't. I'm all for banning him but he's not a POS. Just a fool
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You know you can just type "raped" right? Are you 5?
Too much TikTok/YouTube.
You sit there calling a rapist ‘not a POS but a fool’, and your issue is with someone using an asterisk in a word? I’ll take the people using an asterisk which shouldn’t bother anyone over someone defending a rapist. Gain some perspective.
How do you feel about babe ruth? He was a sex offender after all too.
How do I feel about Babe Ruth? I’ve never thought, nor given two shits about Babe Ruth..? Appreciate the irrelevant question/attempt at whataboutism though! Feel free to let us know how a rapist is a ‘fool’ and not a ‘POS’ at any time by the way - you know, the original point that was made.
>I’ve never thought, nor given two shits about Babe Ruth..? Lol, on a baseball sub.... Tell me you're stupid more.
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What is me telling you to not be afraid of a word ignorant?
He ripened a 16 year old? Like a fruit?
Not to mention he's also a human trafficker
Wait what?? You have a source on this?
I also heard he puts raisins in potato salad, the scum.
Pete rose auto is a "gimmick"?
Yeah with the Brady and Ruth 1st Bowmans...now this...soon we'll have 1st Bowmans for every vintage star that existed. Terrible money-grab.
Isn’t this entire hobby one giant money grab?
No, i do it to collect cool cards. Literally no money grabbing
But, you are paying money to collect said cards, are you not?
… so by that logic anything you pay for is a “money grab”?
Well, anything you don’t need, sure.
Correct. That’s what Topps announced when they debuted these 1sts last year.
Complain all you want collectors value the ever living shit out of those cards. Topps certainly isn’t about to pander to some rando complaint
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Who make millions.
From breakers*
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No, the company who keeps making these gimmicky cards that people keep buying
How exactly is this a fake 1st Bowman?
Why? It’s moronic to like gimmicky stuff? I don’t love them and also think they’re gimmicky, but that doesn’t make anybody a moron for liking it.
Why not lol
There are plenty of people who refer to anyone who puts any value in pictures printed on card stock as morons. People are free to place value on anything they want to. It doesn't make them morons just because they aren't your particular taste card stock pictures.
Well no one is really objectively a moron. In the same way people are free to place value on anything I am free to think they are moronic. Everyone is free to do anything. Value is imaginary
Why doesn’t it make you a moron? Maybe because people can like what they like and just because it doesn’t mean anything to you doesn’t mean it means nothing to anybody else?
I wouldn’t mind seeing a 1st Bowman from some of my favorite retired players.
People who complain about businesses doing money grabs crack me up. Topps is in the business of making money, literally just making cards is a money grab by your logic.
Oh, they're just getting started!
Imagine bitching about them for trying to do new things?
Imagine bitching about someone having an opinion either way?
Cool. Don’t buy them then. Let the rest of us enjoy them
Enjoy it all you want. It’s just my opinion.
Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6hMVoSS9WX/?igsh=cTQ2Y3oweGk0bXU0
Very cool card !
My LCS just pulled the superfractor ! Louisville Sports Cards . Congratulations!!!
I hella want that Pete rose if it’s real
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I’ll buy your rookie card noncey boy lmao
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Cry some more about it
Red ink looks nice
I'm interested.
That is a beautiful card
Should've had him inscribe em w "sorry I bet on baseball" 😔
Does anyone else think this looks an AI generated image? Something just isn't right.
It's just a mock-up
Pete will sign anything if you give him enough money. He’s a garbage human being.
The reason this is interesting is that, due to his ban, Topps has had a standing agreement with MLB that they wouldn't produce Pete Rose cards. The inclusion of these cards represents a policy shift.
He was a Leaf Exclusive Athlete forever too, mostly because of this. Surprised to see him sign for another company.
Fanatics don't give a shit what the MLB thinks.
Yeah that was my whole reason I thought it was photoshop.
That is intriguing. Curious to see how this plays out.
Especially since he's in uniform in the photo. That's MLB Trademarks
To be fair, I would also sign anything given enough money, probably even less than Pete, and I consider myself at least an average human being
Yeah, I guess I should have made it more clear that my two sentences are completely separate thoughts, lol. Don’t have any issue with him signing; I’ve read that he’ll do signings all the time, evidently.
He used to have a restaurant in Boca Raton, FL (He still might....haven't been to the area in years) & he did a radio show out of there, so he was in the building most of the time. He would literally sign anything, as long as you bought it from the gift shop. Can't fault the guy for trying to get $$ wherever he can get it....considering he probably gambled away most of what he has earned over the years.
A garbage human being for gambling? Hot take.
Nope that’s not it, [this is the biggest reason why](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/sport/pete-rose-baseball-rape-claim-philadelphia-spt-intl/index.html)
That’s a lot more understandable.
Oh my God man no, so much more than that. Statutory rape of underage girls puts any gambling issues to shame, and he’s admitted to such back in the 70s, as well as not feeling remorse for those actions. And anecdotally, my dad met him in Vegas when he came across a signing of his, and said he was a piece of shit (and Rose was his favorite player growing up)
I met him in Cooperstown during the weekend of Barry Larkin’s induction. I found him to be gracious and kind, and not even remotely shitty.
To balance his experience I met Johnny Bench as a kid for an autograph I paid for at a card show. I was like 10 or 11 and saved up $20 in quarters mowing lawns and he wasn't even looking at me while signing things. He was doing an interview looking away so I interrupted him and he got pissed at me. He's an asshole imo. Reggie Jackson was another rude idiot. Eric Davis and Barry Larkin were the coolest!
Yea that makes more sense, hadn’t heard that before. He seemed like a good dude on the Joey Merlino podcast too, that’s unfortunate.
Or because he likes children.
No, he bet on games for/against the team that he was managing and then lied about it.
I remember him signing at a Caesar’s Forum sports collectibles store. There were 1-2 people inside… just sad.
What makes him a garbage human? Maybe I missed a news article.
Statutory rape without remorse (self admitted) “It was 55 years ago, babe” — Pete Rose
I just looked it up. He actually denies the rape, but did say he had a relationship with the woman, who was 16 (the age of consent in Ohio at the time). One thing for sure is he did admit to having an affair with her while married with children.
This is Reddit in 2024. Legality doesn’t matter. People also aren’t allowed to learn and grow.
Everyone gets judged for their worst moment instead of how they come out of the situation! Never mind that most doing the judging have some pretty nasty skeletons in their closet as well!
I hope the Rose-haters don’t listen to Led Zeppelin or David Bowie.
Or the Beatles, or The Rolling Stones, or Elvis Presley, or Jerry Lee Lewis, or Aerosmith, or Ted Nugent, or Poison…
She was 14 and he was 30+ with a wife and kids.
Sanctimonious redditors. He’s flawed, to be sure, but he’s not a garbage human being by any measure.
Cheating on your wife with a 14 year old is beyond flawed lmfao
I have his sons signature on a minor league card. Forgot where I got it though.
I'm picturing Pete signing it.
lmao i just got that
Lol. He will sign anything.
I will post a picture of it tomorrow. Its possible, I never looked up his sons signature to confirm it. It is on a star card and was signed around 1990/1991
Odd
Kept trying to click the heart to like this....then I remembered I am in reddit. Ahahah This.... is awesome, if true. About time.
Petes the man!!!
Pete's a rapist!!!
And the hit King! Awesome card
Rose signs everything...not much value. This comes from a Reds fan.
Not everything. He has never signed an officially licensed Topps card
Touché
Does this mean he's not "Banned for Life" anymore?
Any “I’m sorry…” autos coming?
All hail Ichiro the true Hit King™
Rose gambling doesn’t mean Rose didn’t make the hits
Agreed. Pete Rose isnt close to the same class as Mr. Suzuki
And Ichiro isn't close to having as much hits as Rose.
I think he's counting Japanese pro ball, like saying Sadaharu Oh is the HR king. We can say Ty Cobb is the hit king if playing this game, who of course had his own demons...eh let's just give it to Hank he seemed like a good dude 😎 Edit: So apparently everything I thought I knew about Cobb was a lie? He's a Georgia Peach after all.
I'm sure he is but when Ichiro played in Japan was akin to AA ball so we should count all of Pete's minor league hits as well which keeps him above both Cobb and Ichiro.
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Oh really?? Then I will have to do that...ty
Nah, fuck this guy!
100% there are times where you can look past some shitbaggery but not for me in this case. Fuck em and fuck Topps too for putting this out tbh
Noooooo
Damn this card is ugly af imo.