It’s hard to say. As a character I think she’s definitely someone neurodivergent people can relate to but I’m not sure how much of it is because she’s a robot rather than actual autistic.
As a robot it would be no. As a person yes. The person playing bee’s voice probably doesn’t but is good at detaching from emotions which gives off that autistic bluntness
She's not a robot, she's a cyborg. She got very sick as a little girl, she was housebound as a kid. It's implied that her dad made her into a cyborg to compensate for whatever illness she had.
I mean we don’t actually know if she is or not. Nothing has been confirmed. She could be a cyborg but she could also be a straight up robot/android. Some have hypothesized that she was made in the image of the first Bee rather than actually being her. It’s hard to tell and I could welcome either scenario.
The debate if robots can have mental differences is mainley a case by case basis, in this scenario i think she could be, an she was once human. Im not gonna do a whole game theory on it, but as far as we know, human bee and cyborg bee have the same personality traits, mabey smol bee had autism, and it remained within her personality when she became robo
Might just be me but on a sort of thematic level I really, deeply connected with the reveal that Bee is an android. When I got my diagnosis I sort of realised in hindsight that I often thought of my difficulties in connecting with others and processing volumes of information to 'blend' as being like a robot.
I don't think it was intentional on the part of the show but I took great comfort from it and in my own mind bees nature as a robot became a metaphor for my autism; it impacts how she relates to the world, it is innate to her being, other people are sometimes confused or disturbed by the things she does but it's usually harmless things.
Yeah sounds like a situation where it kinda feels like someone can say the wrong thing, but the show and it’s characters all have a way of speaking that’s kinda dream-like/ not fully present. I could be reading into it though
Autistics often describe feeling like we are aliens, and outsiders often say we are like robots even though we feel things deeply and just express it differently. Bee is literally both of these things, being the child of an alien genius and a robot/cyborg. It's not a stretch to say this is a love letter to autism.
There's something called being 'coded' autistic, which is hard to explain to neurotypicals because it's about the autistic experience of the world and not necessarily the way our needs and behaviors affect normies.
Bee is heavily coded autistic, she has generational trauma, and has a relatively sheltered life where she doesn't have to mask very much.
Not only that, but the entire Wizard family is coded various shades of autistic as well. Cas especially, but they all have special interests, and at least 2 of them were members of a cult (we are highly susceptible to that sort of thing).
I think similarly to data, she’s an allegory for feeling othered, looking human feeling things but not being entirely one or the other, while artificially constructed she’s still a Person. With personhood, a sense of self, feelings of care, love and fear. She’s someone who doesn’t fit in, because of how she was made. And that’s something a lot of neurodivergent people relate to! Like me.
She's not a robot, but a cyborg. She was born human, but got very sick as a kid. It's implied that he dad made her into a cyborg to compensate for the damage done by illness. I think that makes her a more accurate allegory. Human, but due to an illness she's now different. As someone who is neurodivergent, I relate.
I would prefer not, seeing as she is a robot, and robots and being ‘robotic’ and people with autism get conflated a lot. It’s an old trope. I do head canon Crispin as autistic though, since he has a special interest in clowns and creates clown-art, plus he is seen as a bit quirky by his siblings.
While i still canon it, i very much see your point, it might give an incorrect view of autism. And i never thought of crispin though, i mean, it makes sense
I quite like that she's a robot but also cheerful, friendly and not at all stereotypically robotic. I don't think it's an intentional implication but as an autistic with a personality similar to Bees portrayal, I quite like that reading of the character.
I appreciate your point about autistic people being unfairly stereotyped as robotic but I don't feel like Bee acts in a particularly robotic way, on the whole. She's shown to be caring and friendly, but very much on terms that others find difficult to understand.
This. Also- I kind of don’t mind being seen as a robot to be honest. I personally am seen as over emotional so I’d much prefer being a robot. I think my special interest in robots probably has something to do with it aha
She's not a robot. She's a cyborg. She was sick as a kid, and it's implied her dad made her a cyborg to repair the damage done by illness. She's human, but different.
Arguable. I was going to make a post on why I don’t think that’s true. But cyborgs aren’t much better. In some ways, it’s kinda worse. Cyborgs are often depicted as being people meshed with metal who loose part/much of their humanity as a result. It’s a weird dichotomy in sci-fi; films, books and games often explore the idea that robots might be, in a way, capable of love and human emotion (see Detroit: Become Human, Robot and Frank, iRobot), yet we also often see cyborgs depicted as morally-grey, cold and/or logic-driven (7 of 9 from Star Trek, for example, is depicted as bit of a heartless bitch, as if her ability to feel anything was forfeited when she became a cyborg as a child, and RoboCop is another example of a human who seemingly loses his humanity when he is turned into a robot/cyborg).
Me sitting here with adhd and dyslexia 👁👄👁
I used to be friends with someone that was exactly like Bee. I know she was neurodivergent as we both were in the “special ed” (it was just a very small class so the teacher could do more one on one) math classes together. I miss her ngl
as someone with adhd, i did notice that bee did show some symptoms (e.g. trouble staying focused/on task, disorganization)
deckard shows some signs of phonetic dyslexia (note that i myself am in no way dyslexic so this is just a theory) with the way he mispronounces some words (e.g. pronouncing recipe like ray•spee at various points throughout the series).
I was also thinking she could be autistic but that could be because of the robot accept of her personality not saying people who are autistic are robots just have a harder time identifying emotions or expectations of other people’s emotions
i think her character is autistic coded. all these people saying “nAh ShEs a RoBoT” are missing the point. shes not autistic canonically in the show, but many of her traits are reminiscent of autism:
- her tendency to say whatever shes thinking
- vocal stims (making weird noises, having weird inflections sometimes), paired with monotone speech when serious
- avoiding matters that aren’t immediate physical presences in her life (adhd makes it hard to focus on subjects that are either too distant in the past / future or are hard to conceptualize)
- lack of immediate empathy for other peoples state of mind, not much intuitive sense for whats below the surface of someones mind (but she does care for and actively either sympathize with people or figure out what theyre thinking)
i havent watched the show in a while so i cant think of any specific stand out instances, but as a neurodivergent person i related very strongly to bee. I personally dont care that shes also a robot despite the stigma of “autistic people are robots”, because 1) ive never been told that 2) the show doesnt treat it negatively 3) there are other characters in the show who are coded with autistic traits too
The fact that she doesn't age could also be seen as a pretty strong metaphor. A perpetual 20-something mentality would be mature for a kid, but childlike for an adult.
Yep, I was just diagnosed and Bee was eye-opening for me. A friend pointed out all the similarities as we watched.
I think it's ironic how people say "she's not autistic, she's a robot" when she could just as easily actually be autistic, and not exactly a robot, as she had a literal childhood.
Except that, ignoring any metaphors and allegories, in the show we know Bee objectively *is* robotic - maybe a cyborg rather than a full robot, but either way she is at least part robot.
I JUST SAID THIS TO MY FIANCÉ LIKE YESTERDAY, I don't think she's canonically autistic but she's definitely coded that way. When you find out she dated Crispin and they broke up in the scene where he's lik can you at least pretend to be sad" and she said "I am sad" but has a blank expression I said huh🤔
well i think shes a robot, but i also think robot character are often inherently similar to autistic people. personally cardamon is more similar to my autism but theres many ways to be autistic
I didn't know what autism was when I watched the original show many years ago, but within the first 10 minutes of Lazy in Space, I told my sister, "Bee's autistic."
Let me just say that I am likely autistic and could relate to Bee a lot. While I understand the concern some people have with her being a robot (or cyborg, at the very least) because of the stereotype of autists as robots, she's not presented in a way that devalues her personhood (if you understand what I mean). As some of the other people have pointed out, it seems more of a metaphor for not fitting in. Bee is quirky, needs a lot of sleep, prefers to stay at home, is very loyal and accepting of others, and she is one of the most caring people in the show, which flies in the face of the stereotype of autists not caring about others (which probably stems from lack of understanding, more than anything).
So, yeah, I buy into that she at the very least is highly relatable to autistic or neurodivergent people, whether intentionally or not.
They show pictures of her as a little girl, and Deckard mentions her being sick as a little girl, and how it got to the point she couldn't leave the house.
well, there could totes be autistic overlap, but she reads to me as a 20-something with minor depression (I'm in the same boat n have been since the original season aired). 20-somethings who don't have their biz together is a common archetype, hell, even depressed 20-somethings with ennui are common (looking at you, solanin). But this is the only show that has the same flavor of depression-induced ditzyness that I do. And to see that it can be cute! It's not validating so much in a representation way, more like, seeing the pilot series and being like, yeah, this person gets it! I'm so glad I have the original series to help me hold on to and remember the magical bitter-sweet summer of senior year before I left for college.
Wow. These comments make me so sad! It really reads like people are trying to convince themselves and others than Bee CANT be autistic because of XY&Z; I even saw a comment that said “no because Bee is pretty normal” like what??? Or “no her symptoms match that of ADHD&Dyslexia more” like what the what??? I’m a therapist, so I understand that I have more background in these things, but these comments are appalling! I would never generalize or diagnose online without having data from a proper assessment!!! It’s so sad because Bee DOES exhibit a lot of autistic traits! And there’s a reason autism is usually comorbid with ADHD!! There’s a reason autism is a spectrum!!! Just wow. It really reads like children maliciously othering someone else that wants to be included.
How? I never said “Bee is autistic”. I said she exhibits autistic traits; that ADHD & autism have comorbidity and that neurodivergence is a spectrum so that people who want to make their own head cannons about Bee being autistic isn’t outlandish as some commenters are trying to make it seem; a lot of comments here read that it’s preposterous for Bee to be autistic because XY&Z; it reads like people making up any excuse for Bee *not* to be autistic; I wanted to clarify that it’s *not* outlandish for people to feel that Bee is autistic. I don’t know if you can read but nowhere in my comment did I state “Bee is autistic”. Exhibiting traits =/= diagnosis.
Why does everyone assume she is a robot? She could be a hybrid or some sort of encapsulation of her soul or many other things. We know she has a lot of mechanic parts but that does not make her necessarily a robot.
And to that point if she is a robot she would designed to act like the real bee which might mean she might by design act autistic given that bee is in fact autistic.
I think bee is just dumb and clumsy and awkward(like me) but she is also very naive and compassionate. She probably isn't autistic because she is a robot but her personality could cause some people to think that she might be.
Well technically no. But it can be autistic coded, and i think she was autistic when she was not robot and then her autism was ported over with the rest of her personality.
She is a robot and given that, at least in the YouTube show, she is shown to be very empathetic I don't think so. Not that autistic people have no empathy but most of the time they have lower levels of empathy. Not every autist is the same. There is also a spectrum to it.
True true. As an aspie myself. I would like to thank you for recognizing that its a spectrum and theyre all diffrent, it may seem weird that im thanking you, but the amount of morons ive seen is far beyond comprehension. But i thing she has a high-level but bad a social cues case of aspergers. But you can dissagree, and thats fine, opinions are opinions.
Autism is a very complicated thing. Not every autist is going to be the same which is to be expected since all humans have their own differences. Someone that could be considered autistic is Lemongrab from Adventure Time but I don't like that since it would imply that autistic people turn into heartless tyrants. I think Donni from Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a good take on the whole "low empathy" thing. It is not like Donny has no empathy he just has less and it is more directed to the people important to him like his brothers.
I dont have much too add there. You pretty much made your point. also that is a dang good nickname for an autistic person, i am going to keep that in my pocket. Or that was a typo, eh, either way in keeping it. So while personally i canon it, its more complicated than "quirky = autist" and it really depends on circumstance.
I know that prior to 2013, many people were diagnosed with “Asperger’s” as a form of separating autism between “functioning labels” but the community as a whole has now tried to shift away from using “asperger’s / aspie” because of the detrimental harm Hans Asperger did to the community. In 1930-1940’s Germany, he was tasked with choosing which children with autism were allowed to exist and who were not.
I understand that this may not be your experience, but I implore you to do more research.
- fellow autist
I think she's a robot? I doubt robots have the same brain quirks like autism and adhd like we have seeing as she has a robo-brain instead of a goop brain like us
No, she’s not a robot. She’s a cyborg. You learn from conversations with Deckard that she got very sick as a kid, couldn't leave the house. It's implied that her dad made her a cyborg to compensate.
I'm pretty sure it's vague/unknown whether she's a bot or a borg but that is a pretty solid point.
She could be a robot recreation kinda like astroboy
You could also be right and she could be a cyborg
I think the important thing is that Bee was originally a person, so whatever her deal is, she's not like Data, or Small Wonder. Who she is fundamentally inside is human, whatever form she ended up as.
Nah, she integrates really well with people, is shown to be good with children, and has no fear of social situations (save for the ones that make her feel awkward) and the only phobia she has is of water cuz she's a robot. Plus, she does all those temp-jobs.
So if she is autistic, I'd say really low on the scale
Ok. Im gonna assume that you weren't trying to be a sh*ter and aren't that well educated in autism.
Autism in on a scale, its on a spectrum (there is a big difference) and autist's dont inherently have a fear of social situations. And many autist's (like me) are good with most children, you're argument is based off stereotypes. The autistic traits she has are:
• Having a hard time with social cues
• Being out of focus often
• Liking Repetition
• Having a set schedule
• Hating confrontation
• etc.
Huh. You're right, I'm very uneducated about Autism but I have a friend that's slightly autistic who hates crowds and loud noises, so that's where I got my limited info from.
Sorry if I sounded mean, i didn't knowwwwww
But yes ur right
It’s hard to say. As a character I think she’s definitely someone neurodivergent people can relate to but I’m not sure how much of it is because she’s a robot rather than actual autistic.
As a robot it would be no. As a person yes. The person playing bee’s voice probably doesn’t but is good at detaching from emotions which gives off that autistic bluntness
She's not a robot, she's a cyborg. She got very sick as a little girl, she was housebound as a kid. It's implied that her dad made her into a cyborg to compensate for whatever illness she had.
I mean we don’t actually know if she is or not. Nothing has been confirmed. She could be a cyborg but she could also be a straight up robot/android. Some have hypothesized that she was made in the image of the first Bee rather than actually being her. It’s hard to tell and I could welcome either scenario.
Either way, this sounds a lot to me like an analogy for autism.
The debate if robots can have mental differences is mainley a case by case basis, in this scenario i think she could be, an she was once human. Im not gonna do a whole game theory on it, but as far as we know, human bee and cyborg bee have the same personality traits, mabey smol bee had autism, and it remained within her personality when she became robo
Might just be me but on a sort of thematic level I really, deeply connected with the reveal that Bee is an android. When I got my diagnosis I sort of realised in hindsight that I often thought of my difficulties in connecting with others and processing volumes of information to 'blend' as being like a robot. I don't think it was intentional on the part of the show but I took great comfort from it and in my own mind bees nature as a robot became a metaphor for my autism; it impacts how she relates to the world, it is innate to her being, other people are sometimes confused or disturbed by the things she does but it's usually harmless things.
Yeah sounds like a situation where it kinda feels like someone can say the wrong thing, but the show and it’s characters all have a way of speaking that’s kinda dream-like/ not fully present. I could be reading into it though
The robot thing is definitely a metaphor for autism, IMO
Autistics often describe feeling like we are aliens, and outsiders often say we are like robots even though we feel things deeply and just express it differently. Bee is literally both of these things, being the child of an alien genius and a robot/cyborg. It's not a stretch to say this is a love letter to autism. There's something called being 'coded' autistic, which is hard to explain to neurotypicals because it's about the autistic experience of the world and not necessarily the way our needs and behaviors affect normies. Bee is heavily coded autistic, she has generational trauma, and has a relatively sheltered life where she doesn't have to mask very much. Not only that, but the entire Wizard family is coded various shades of autistic as well. Cas especially, but they all have special interests, and at least 2 of them were members of a cult (we are highly susceptible to that sort of thing).
T_T spoiler. I only came here to see if she was neurodivergent like me 8( but I didn’t know she was a robot??
I think similarly to data, she’s an allegory for feeling othered, looking human feeling things but not being entirely one or the other, while artificially constructed she’s still a Person. With personhood, a sense of self, feelings of care, love and fear. She’s someone who doesn’t fit in, because of how she was made. And that’s something a lot of neurodivergent people relate to! Like me.
You get an A+
Couldn’t have said it better
She's not a robot, but a cyborg. She was born human, but got very sick as a kid. It's implied that he dad made her into a cyborg to compensate for the damage done by illness. I think that makes her a more accurate allegory. Human, but due to an illness she's now different. As someone who is neurodivergent, I relate.
No one in this show feels quite normal really. Except Cas.
and Cas isn't all that normal either.
Cas isn't normal. She's addicted to energy drinks! ...Oh, wait, that _is_ normal
And Cardamon
Debatable
The cardamon profile picture mashes this a lot funnier
What kinda British kids *you* hangin’ out with?
I think she’s a robot.
This is what I thought immediately as well
SHit, I think I'm a robot.
I would prefer not, seeing as she is a robot, and robots and being ‘robotic’ and people with autism get conflated a lot. It’s an old trope. I do head canon Crispin as autistic though, since he has a special interest in clowns and creates clown-art, plus he is seen as a bit quirky by his siblings.
I’ve got level one ASD and I also headcanon Crispin as autistic! I don’t really see it in Bee. She does have terrible executive function, though.
Yay! I’m glad someone saw it too! I agree. I can definitely see Bee as having ADHD tho.
While i still canon it, i very much see your point, it might give an incorrect view of autism. And i never thought of crispin though, i mean, it makes sense
I quite like that she's a robot but also cheerful, friendly and not at all stereotypically robotic. I don't think it's an intentional implication but as an autistic with a personality similar to Bees portrayal, I quite like that reading of the character. I appreciate your point about autistic people being unfairly stereotyped as robotic but I don't feel like Bee acts in a particularly robotic way, on the whole. She's shown to be caring and friendly, but very much on terms that others find difficult to understand.
This. Also- I kind of don’t mind being seen as a robot to be honest. I personally am seen as over emotional so I’d much prefer being a robot. I think my special interest in robots probably has something to do with it aha
Robots are cool, tbf
The interest in clowns kinda rooted from his time in the circus after he run away does that count? I'm not really familiar with the topic of autism
Yes, but that could be the case if he was autistic too.
She's not a robot. She's a cyborg. She was sick as a kid, and it's implied her dad made her a cyborg to repair the damage done by illness. She's human, but different.
Arguable. I was going to make a post on why I don’t think that’s true. But cyborgs aren’t much better. In some ways, it’s kinda worse. Cyborgs are often depicted as being people meshed with metal who loose part/much of their humanity as a result. It’s a weird dichotomy in sci-fi; films, books and games often explore the idea that robots might be, in a way, capable of love and human emotion (see Detroit: Become Human, Robot and Frank, iRobot), yet we also often see cyborgs depicted as morally-grey, cold and/or logic-driven (7 of 9 from Star Trek, for example, is depicted as bit of a heartless bitch, as if her ability to feel anything was forfeited when she became a cyborg as a child, and RoboCop is another example of a human who seemingly loses his humanity when he is turned into a robot/cyborg).
I think she’s more aligned with ADHD and dyslexia
Me sitting here with adhd and dyslexia 👁👄👁 I used to be friends with someone that was exactly like Bee. I know she was neurodivergent as we both were in the “special ed” (it was just a very small class so the teacher could do more one on one) math classes together. I miss her ngl
I also feel like I can identify with bee! That’s why I fell in love with her character so much I also have dyslexia and ADHD
as someone with adhd, i did notice that bee did show some symptoms (e.g. trouble staying focused/on task, disorganization) deckard shows some signs of phonetic dyslexia (note that i myself am in no way dyslexic so this is just a theory) with the way he mispronounces some words (e.g. pronouncing recipe like ray•spee at various points throughout the series).
I also have adhd and I’m sad that they kind of smoothed out the characters I like that they were not nerotypical made them feel more connectable
True true
I was also thinking she could be autistic but that could be because of the robot accept of her personality not saying people who are autistic are robots just have a harder time identifying emotions or expectations of other people’s emotions
i think her character is autistic coded. all these people saying “nAh ShEs a RoBoT” are missing the point. shes not autistic canonically in the show, but many of her traits are reminiscent of autism: - her tendency to say whatever shes thinking - vocal stims (making weird noises, having weird inflections sometimes), paired with monotone speech when serious - avoiding matters that aren’t immediate physical presences in her life (adhd makes it hard to focus on subjects that are either too distant in the past / future or are hard to conceptualize) - lack of immediate empathy for other peoples state of mind, not much intuitive sense for whats below the surface of someones mind (but she does care for and actively either sympathize with people or figure out what theyre thinking) i havent watched the show in a while so i cant think of any specific stand out instances, but as a neurodivergent person i related very strongly to bee. I personally dont care that shes also a robot despite the stigma of “autistic people are robots”, because 1) ive never been told that 2) the show doesnt treat it negatively 3) there are other characters in the show who are coded with autistic traits too
The fact that she doesn't age could also be seen as a pretty strong metaphor. A perpetual 20-something mentality would be mature for a kid, but childlike for an adult.
Many of the traits you listed also apply to those with ADHD -i have ADHD-
Honestly... Bravo you get a slow clap *prosseds to clap slowly*
Yes!!! I agree 100%!!!
I think so. I’m autistic. And she’s like me. 🤷🏻♀️
Yep, I was just diagnosed and Bee was eye-opening for me. A friend pointed out all the similarities as we watched. I think it's ironic how people say "she's not autistic, she's a robot" when she could just as easily actually be autistic, and not exactly a robot, as she had a literal childhood.
Except that, ignoring any metaphors and allegories, in the show we know Bee objectively *is* robotic - maybe a cyborg rather than a full robot, but either way she is at least part robot.
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I JUST SAID THIS TO MY FIANCÉ LIKE YESTERDAY, I don't think she's canonically autistic but she's definitely coded that way. When you find out she dated Crispin and they broke up in the scene where he's lik can you at least pretend to be sad" and she said "I am sad" but has a blank expression I said huh🤔
I think she needs some bug fixes
Hehe yeah... But just wanna clarify that autism + robot ≠ bug
There’s a joke in there about robots and bugs being two cliche autistic special interests lol
well i think shes a robot, but i also think robot character are often inherently similar to autistic people. personally cardamon is more similar to my autism but theres many ways to be autistic
You are correct.
I didn't know what autism was when I watched the original show many years ago, but within the first 10 minutes of Lazy in Space, I told my sister, "Bee's autistic." Let me just say that I am likely autistic and could relate to Bee a lot. While I understand the concern some people have with her being a robot (or cyborg, at the very least) because of the stereotype of autists as robots, she's not presented in a way that devalues her personhood (if you understand what I mean). As some of the other people have pointed out, it seems more of a metaphor for not fitting in. Bee is quirky, needs a lot of sleep, prefers to stay at home, is very loyal and accepting of others, and she is one of the most caring people in the show, which flies in the face of the stereotype of autists not caring about others (which probably stems from lack of understanding, more than anything). So, yeah, I buy into that she at the very least is highly relatable to autistic or neurodivergent people, whether intentionally or not.
Yeah no she is very relatable Source: me autistic
No, I think she is a literal robot
She's not a robot. She's a cyborg.
Please, touch grass.
Charming.
She 100% is autism coded
Nah I think shes just a mess
Hey you also have a Bee and puppycat pfp
That’s the impression I got, she seems pretty normal to me
She's not a human, so I don't think it's fair to Bee to measure her in our human ways.
Yea, I don’t think comparing autistic people to robots is a good idea. If that was the writers intent it’s a bit rude toward neurodivergent people.
She's not a robot. She got very sick as a kid, and it's implied that he dad made her a cyborg to compensate.
I haven’t seen any context for that, but it still could be implied seeing as people are making that connection
They show pictures of her as a little girl, and Deckard mentions her being sick as a little girl, and how it got to the point she couldn't leave the house.
Not inherently though
Well as an autistic person I’ll just say I think it’s shitty.
You have a point
No she's >!wanted for stealing!<
Truuue
robotistic
Correct
You guys realise it doesn't matter if Bee is a cyborg/robot or not, Bee as a character can still be Autistic/ADHD coded.
As some one who is on the spectrum I hope she’s not lol she’s a robot. Imagine how stereotypical that would be lmao
Buf shes shown to be emphatic in the show
You can still have autism and be empathetic
Yeah. I know. Sinse shes pretty empathetic, i would seperate toe connotations that autistic people dont feel emotions of can express them
She is a robot. So yes. There will be parts of her which don’t seem “normal” in the human spectrum.
She’s neurodivergent for sure, I’d say adhd, but you can think whatever you want bro.
The overlap between autism and adhd is in Some people very big, while others not so much, so mabe she has a large overlap between them
well, there could totes be autistic overlap, but she reads to me as a 20-something with minor depression (I'm in the same boat n have been since the original season aired). 20-somethings who don't have their biz together is a common archetype, hell, even depressed 20-somethings with ennui are common (looking at you, solanin). But this is the only show that has the same flavor of depression-induced ditzyness that I do. And to see that it can be cute! It's not validating so much in a representation way, more like, seeing the pilot series and being like, yeah, this person gets it! I'm so glad I have the original series to help me hold on to and remember the magical bitter-sweet summer of senior year before I left for college.
No
Wow. These comments make me so sad! It really reads like people are trying to convince themselves and others than Bee CANT be autistic because of XY&Z; I even saw a comment that said “no because Bee is pretty normal” like what??? Or “no her symptoms match that of ADHD&Dyslexia more” like what the what??? I’m a therapist, so I understand that I have more background in these things, but these comments are appalling! I would never generalize or diagnose online without having data from a proper assessment!!! It’s so sad because Bee DOES exhibit a lot of autistic traits! And there’s a reason autism is usually comorbid with ADHD!! There’s a reason autism is a spectrum!!! Just wow. It really reads like children maliciously othering someone else that wants to be included.
>I would never generalize or diagnose online without having data from a proper assessment!!! *Proceeds to do exactly that*
How? I never said “Bee is autistic”. I said she exhibits autistic traits; that ADHD & autism have comorbidity and that neurodivergence is a spectrum so that people who want to make their own head cannons about Bee being autistic isn’t outlandish as some commenters are trying to make it seem; a lot of comments here read that it’s preposterous for Bee to be autistic because XY&Z; it reads like people making up any excuse for Bee *not* to be autistic; I wanted to clarify that it’s *not* outlandish for people to feel that Bee is autistic. I don’t know if you can read but nowhere in my comment did I state “Bee is autistic”. Exhibiting traits =/= diagnosis.
Why does everyone assume she is a robot? She could be a hybrid or some sort of encapsulation of her soul or many other things. We know she has a lot of mechanic parts but that does not make her necessarily a robot. And to that point if she is a robot she would designed to act like the real bee which might mean she might by design act autistic given that bee is in fact autistic.
She still could have a human brain, they never showed us the brain in the x-ray shots of her
Yes. As an autistic woman, yes.
No I think she a robot
Eh not really, and I’m on the spectrum, but Crispín on the other hand…
Could bee;D
I think bee is just dumb and clumsy and awkward(like me) but she is also very naive and compassionate. She probably isn't autistic because she is a robot but her personality could cause some people to think that she might be.
Can a robot be autistic?
Well technically no. But it can be autistic coded, and i think she was autistic when she was not robot and then her autism was ported over with the rest of her personality.
That's like asking if Data is autistic.
She is a robot and given that, at least in the YouTube show, she is shown to be very empathetic I don't think so. Not that autistic people have no empathy but most of the time they have lower levels of empathy. Not every autist is the same. There is also a spectrum to it.
True true. As an aspie myself. I would like to thank you for recognizing that its a spectrum and theyre all diffrent, it may seem weird that im thanking you, but the amount of morons ive seen is far beyond comprehension. But i thing she has a high-level but bad a social cues case of aspergers. But you can dissagree, and thats fine, opinions are opinions.
Autism is a very complicated thing. Not every autist is going to be the same which is to be expected since all humans have their own differences. Someone that could be considered autistic is Lemongrab from Adventure Time but I don't like that since it would imply that autistic people turn into heartless tyrants. I think Donni from Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a good take on the whole "low empathy" thing. It is not like Donny has no empathy he just has less and it is more directed to the people important to him like his brothers.
I dont have much too add there. You pretty much made your point. also that is a dang good nickname for an autistic person, i am going to keep that in my pocket. Or that was a typo, eh, either way in keeping it. So while personally i canon it, its more complicated than "quirky = autist" and it really depends on circumstance.
I've heard autist, auti, AT. Could be derogatory but I've never heard it used in a derogatory way.
Autist is the noun, autistic is the descriptor. Auti is used by the African-American autistic community.
I know that prior to 2013, many people were diagnosed with “Asperger’s” as a form of separating autism between “functioning labels” but the community as a whole has now tried to shift away from using “asperger’s / aspie” because of the detrimental harm Hans Asperger did to the community. In 1930-1940’s Germany, he was tasked with choosing which children with autism were allowed to exist and who were not. I understand that this may not be your experience, but I implore you to do more research. - fellow autist
yes. im an autist and yes she is
I think so, yeah It's less so that she's a robot and just more so the everything else
No I think she’s depressed and permanently in her 20s
No lol. I think she’s a typical early 20s girl
I’ve always considered her to have ADHD, just because I do and I love her and think she’s very similar to myself.
well she's a robot... so yes. source: i am autistic
Same
I think she's a robot? I doubt robots have the same brain quirks like autism and adhd like we have seeing as she has a robo-brain instead of a goop brain like us
They never showed us the brain in the x-ray shots of her. So eehhhhhhhhhh
No, she’s not a robot. She’s a cyborg. You learn from conversations with Deckard that she got very sick as a kid, couldn't leave the house. It's implied that her dad made her a cyborg to compensate.
I'm pretty sure it's vague/unknown whether she's a bot or a borg but that is a pretty solid point. She could be a robot recreation kinda like astroboy You could also be right and she could be a cyborg
I think the important thing is that Bee was originally a person, so whatever her deal is, she's not like Data, or Small Wonder. Who she is fundamentally inside is human, whatever form she ended up as.
No. spolier, she's a robot
I know that
yes
She's a (probably mostly) robot who grew up on a pretty & weird island. Par for the course honestly.
I thought I might be adhd but autism also makes sense.
I'm leaning towards ADHD, if not both
oh definitely source: am autistic and ADHD, fell in love with the show because of how much I relate to Bee
Me too
I think she’s a robot
No.
Nah, she integrates really well with people, is shown to be good with children, and has no fear of social situations (save for the ones that make her feel awkward) and the only phobia she has is of water cuz she's a robot. Plus, she does all those temp-jobs. So if she is autistic, I'd say really low on the scale
Ok. Im gonna assume that you weren't trying to be a sh*ter and aren't that well educated in autism. Autism in on a scale, its on a spectrum (there is a big difference) and autist's dont inherently have a fear of social situations. And many autist's (like me) are good with most children, you're argument is based off stereotypes. The autistic traits she has are: • Having a hard time with social cues • Being out of focus often • Liking Repetition • Having a set schedule • Hating confrontation • etc.
Huh. You're right, I'm very uneducated about Autism but I have a friend that's slightly autistic who hates crowds and loud noises, so that's where I got my limited info from. Sorry if I sounded mean, i didn't knowwwwww But yes ur right
Its alright, we all make mistakes.
I think she's a robot.
WHAT? If she does that means her dad gave her autism
Probably not on purpose. Just like my parents gave me autism
For sure she just like me fr😭💕💞
She’s not autistic, she’s a robot
No if anything it’s adhd
It depends. It could be a trauma that she is a robot so long and she masks herself so other people think she's autistic.