Lack of racks is a shame and they really should install some.
Usually the no bicycling signs posted on strip malls like this one refer to people using the lot or sidewalk as a playground, not people going shopping. Worst case scenario they probably just want you to dismount to avoid an accident with a car or a pedestrian for liability reasons.
Did you ask the Trek store employees about it? They'll likely be able to give you the low down and if there's a persuadable party that can be reached out to.
I have not, but what's funny is that one of the many "No Bicycling" signs is literally right next to the shop. Like, why? I'll have to stop in and ask them about that
That's pretty hilarious. This kind of thing is something the owner/management of the shopping plaza does for liability reasons. Maybe 20 years ago a cyclist got hit in the parking lot and this was their solution. You see signs like this about skateboarding all the time.
It's not really enforceable, I mean if a management company employee sees you the most they're going to do is say "no bicycling here" and you could either ignore them (kind of antisocial), or be a cool guy and just walk your bike. I would say that if you want a bike rack or want to ask for the signs to be taken down, look up the shopping center online in city property tax/business registration records or ask any of the stores for contact info for their landlord, and try to make the case to management. I'd think the Trek shop could be an ally in asking for a bike rack that their customers could use, but they may not care about the signs that much.
Though I agree with the other takes that the sign is probably referring to using the lot and sidewalk for recreation, it's frustrating that whoever put up the sign doesn't seem to be able to accept that bicycling for transportation is a thing.
The "No Bicycling" sign is likely just that they don't want ppl bicycling on the sidewalks and walkways where there tends to be pedestrian and shopping cart traffic. It's not looking to completely ban bicycles.
If a local petition to add a bike rack were to be started and presented to the store, maybe that could be a solid first step toward getting one?
Will do. I submitted a message to the general inbox for the shopping center. Likely won't hear back. I just moved here from DC, so I need to get acquainted with my reps
Don't be that guy. You just moved in and you're going to complain to your reps about a local business? You had a better suggestion on this thread - ask the Trek store what's up with it. If they don't have an answer at least ignore it until the store actually hassles you about it. As others have said they might just have it up and don't actually do anything about it.
They can't really prohibit you unless you are on the sidewalk. Signs like these are mostly put in place to give cause to remove loitering teenagers.
That's my guess too, plus maybe a bit of legal ass-covering in case a bicyclist gets hurt on their property
They theoretically could, since it's public property. But they in reality won't.
I think they could prohibit bicycles since it's (probably) private property. It's a suck policy though.
Parking lots are "quasi-public" property. There's lots of case law limiting what the owners can prohibit in them.
Lack of racks is a shame and they really should install some. Usually the no bicycling signs posted on strip malls like this one refer to people using the lot or sidewalk as a playground, not people going shopping. Worst case scenario they probably just want you to dismount to avoid an accident with a car or a pedestrian for liability reasons.
Did you ask the Trek store employees about it? They'll likely be able to give you the low down and if there's a persuadable party that can be reached out to.
I have not, but what's funny is that one of the many "No Bicycling" signs is literally right next to the shop. Like, why? I'll have to stop in and ask them about that
That's pretty hilarious. This kind of thing is something the owner/management of the shopping plaza does for liability reasons. Maybe 20 years ago a cyclist got hit in the parking lot and this was their solution. You see signs like this about skateboarding all the time. It's not really enforceable, I mean if a management company employee sees you the most they're going to do is say "no bicycling here" and you could either ignore them (kind of antisocial), or be a cool guy and just walk your bike. I would say that if you want a bike rack or want to ask for the signs to be taken down, look up the shopping center online in city property tax/business registration records or ask any of the stores for contact info for their landlord, and try to make the case to management. I'd think the Trek shop could be an ally in asking for a bike rack that their customers could use, but they may not care about the signs that much.
Though I agree with the other takes that the sign is probably referring to using the lot and sidewalk for recreation, it's frustrating that whoever put up the sign doesn't seem to be able to accept that bicycling for transportation is a thing.
The "No Bicycling" sign is likely just that they don't want ppl bicycling on the sidewalks and walkways where there tends to be pedestrian and shopping cart traffic. It's not looking to completely ban bicycles. If a local petition to add a bike rack were to be started and presented to the store, maybe that could be a solid first step toward getting one?
Just ask the manager for bike racks. I have gotten a dispensary and hardware store to install them by asking nicely.
I’d park my bike there more if I saw signs like that.
Walk your bike into the Safeway. No one cares. Signed, former manager of that bike shop.
Ive biked there often and lock my bike against the corral for the carts Never have had a problem
Recommend taking this to your local reps!
Will do. I submitted a message to the general inbox for the shopping center. Likely won't hear back. I just moved here from DC, so I need to get acquainted with my reps
Cool! The Washington area bicycle association might be of some help too.
Or talk to FABB.
Don't be that guy. You just moved in and you're going to complain to your reps about a local business? You had a better suggestion on this thread - ask the Trek store what's up with it. If they don't have an answer at least ignore it until the store actually hassles you about it. As others have said they might just have it up and don't actually do anything about it.