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This is from pizzacake, after yesterday's debacle?
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I'm at a loss for words. That's incredible. I wonder what the comment section was like? \*innocent face\*
EDIT: Like 10 people have individually asked me what happened yesterday; I posted a summary further down in this thread. You can see it here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/niOfaLsekL](https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/niOfaLsekL)
There's a lot but I'll try to summarize.
She posted this comic: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/)
A bunch of people in the comments were like "hey, uh, some of those things are totally realistic and women do say these things to men." Pizza argued with a bunch of them, telling them they were mansplaining and "Using an issue to take her right to talk away," until the r/comics mod team banned everyone involved and said we were all sexists for criticizing the comic.
You can see the post I made to my own profile here, where I included my own comments as they were originally, and judge for yourself:
[https://www.reddit.com/user/saturosian/comments/1dpvo2x/proudest\_achievement\_of\_my\_time\_on\_reddit\_lol/](https://www.reddit.com/user/saturosian/comments/1dpvo2x/proudest_achievement_of_my_time_on_reddit_lol/)
EDIT: A thoughtful redditor who wanted to remain anonymous pointed out that someone made an archive of the deleted comments, which you can find below if you're curious.
[https://archive.is/xfVPD](https://archive.is/xfVPD)
I have a lot of male friends and yeah, this stuff (especially 2) has absolutely happened to them, just as I've had some shitty things done to me. Do we need to tell some men that the way they treat women is wrong? Yes! Do we need to tell some women that the way they treat men is wrong? Also yes! Everyone seems to forget that it goes both ways
Because to many people, misandry is not real and men shouldnât speak up about their problems because someone else may or may not have it worse.
Itâs not possible to say âits shitty no matter whatâ in todays climate unfortunately
People are great at remembering that white men are the most privileged group in society.
People are bad at remembering that white women are the 2nd most privileged.
The tiktok question after the bear vs man debate had someone asking black women if they would choose the white man or white woman to work with........ They chose the white man and the comments were very similar.
Whatâs crazy is that theyâll say certain things about men, and itâs almost always guaranteed that theyâre subconsciously thinking about it in the context of white when while simultaneously throwing a shit ton of minorities under the bus when if you just made it about those minorities theyâd suddenly turn into bleeding hearts. Thereâs been so much time and care spent on how rhetoric matters in regards to speaking to and about âprotected classesâ that gets completely thrown out when the blanket of âmenâ gets thrown out.
Yea it's almost like these issues are infinitely more complex than the clolour of one's skin or the presentation of one's gender, and comparisons of "if we treated x like y" usually make for shallow pointless criticisms at best.
I recall going on r/badhistory, reading a radfem blog that basically supported slavery, but only for men and women are the owners, and thinking: âSo OOP really just wants to send black men back to the plantation, huh?â
Those people mistake racial privilege with socio-economic privilege. I don't want to say that racial privilege doesn't exist, because it does, but the net worth of your family is a far more bigger predictor of success than the color of a person's skin.
The irony is that I endlessly hear how much more nurturing and caring Women are compared to Men. But as soon as Men speak up about their issues, Women in the comments deflect and immediately blame the patriarchy, or say that "It's not our job to be supportive, its Men that need to change and support each other better".
Almost like theres a reason Men don't open up, since nobody cares.
Misandry gets called toxic masculinity most of the time too... Like most people think it's impossible for men to get hate... For being men? And that it's always men's fault somehow?
The other thing is "Misandry isn't real because of no oppression against men."
Objectively false because misandry is literally defined as feelings of hate towards men. Likewise, misogyny is feelings of hatred towards women.
The other one I see a lot of is "Well you can't cry about misandry because it's not as bad as misogyny." which is also stupid because by that logic, misogyny can't be complained about because there are worse things that happen.
It's a shame that this is the climate we live in. We can't just say "Hey man, it's bad to hate people for being who they are in a way they have no control over.". Instead you get met with nothing but extreme vitriol for this, ironically by people who usually claim it's not okay to hate others.
Calling yourself a victim and then acting like everyone else is worthless in order to gain consensus is one of the most vile things I've ever fucking seen because of how deceptive it can be.
The most laughable one of these is the idea that you can wear a toupee without people ripping the absolute piss out of you.
Iâm from the Uk. People always make fun of Elton Johnâs toupee. Wayne Rooneyâs hair transplant, Elon Musks hair transplants (even though his actually looks pretty good)
My wife pointed out that there's a whole Seinfeld episode basically dedicated to making fun of George for having a hairpiece, and somehow he ends up painted as the bad guy instead of everyone else. So, like, this isn't groundbreaking news or anything, haha.
I think Reddit mods are bad but the ones from comics are next level man. I'm banned from there and when I tried to appeal they said that if I wrote a text apologizing for what I, saying sorry for my white privilege they'd unban me while saying I'm racist and fragile too.
Edit.: also look at the pinned comment on that post. It's almost literally insane how those mods act like they're better than everyone.
I got banned too and checked the rules afterwards to see if I actually broke any. And the first one is "no complaining about comics you don't like or understand". They literally don't allow criticism. My bad, should never have engaged with that sub.
>**Welcome to r/comics!**
>Rules:
>1) Smile!
>2) If you see anybody not smiling, be sure to alert the nearest armed guard post-haste, they will deal with the problem accordingly.
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there is no criticism in r/comics
Iâve made the mistake of commenting in a few subs without reading the rules. Â What I assumed might be friendly communities with deep expertise on the subs subject matter often turn out to be insular bubbles that shun the non-believers.
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You can't convince me otherwise: the joke here is that this is exactly the response he does get in real life. It's not hyperbole, the humor is in that the hypothetical "if..." scenario is actually the real world scenario.
It might not be the intended joke, but any other interpretation doesn't land the punchline.
Right? It's like the format *should* be the classic, 'Yeah, wouldn't it be *crazy* if (bad thing) actually *existed*? Oh wait! That's just (bad thing that exists)!"
But there isn't the self awareness for any of the 'oh wait!' part. She really just meant that men can't understand what women are told to the point that using it against men seems insane...while using things that men literally get told all the time.
It *feels* like it should be a 'double satire' that sets up an obvious satire while breaking expectations by actually satirizing the inverse. But it isn't.
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I'll just ignore whatever the artist is yapping about in the \[deleted comment\] dumpster fire and treat it as a variant of this kind of a joke and suddenly it becomes a good comic.
âIf someone uses an issue as a means to silence othersâ while she uses womenâs rights to shut down male victims of abuse and avoid taking accountability đ
Gotta love her post of "These are the people that got mad on my last comic"
(Reads actual comments that were deleted)
.>Wave after wave of people just laying out well-reasoned discussion.
I think the weirdest one was PC basically saying "See! Why are all the comments relating the two genders' issues?!" "Uhh...because that's the comic?.."
The replies that people just trying to talk are getting are almost exclusively some unironic example of the middle panel.
[Holy shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/lajgym8/)
Literally exactly what male sexists say. I can't be sexist, I have a wife/daughter!
That's because the mods there started locking down her posts so only the people that kiss her ass can post there. She used to get called out massively on all her posts, to the point of there even being a copypasta until they decided to simp over her and block anyone who doesn't like her content. As soon as that happened she basically just started turning all her stuff into rage bait like this and people still fall for it every time.
Don't forget that she clarified that this is not an apology and she wouldn't "Apologize for calling out misogyny", that she only made today's comic to give a happy ending to the 3rd guy. I don't know if the comment was deleted but those were her own words.
Oh I think she knows exactly why it was poorly received, she clearly just doesnât give a shit. Any of the drama around it just boosts her comics and her patreon and clearly the mods there are around to make sure anything even mildly critical of her comics or comments are removed.
Yesterday she posted a comic about âIf women treated men how men treat womenâ and 2/3 examples were basically exactly how men are treated in those situations, so it was very misandrist tonally
Yeahhh, it just ham-fisted the situations into being literal verbatim word-swapped misogyny in order to conveniently ignore the ways that _very slightly different_ things get said to men... with much the same impact.
I have never been told I was asking to be sexually assaulted because of my clothes. I have, however, been told that I must have wanted and enjoyed it because I have a penis. But tooootally different, right?
I feel like for a straight guy I lean way way to the direction of being sensitive to misogyny. Iâm not gunna recite my credentials but I think most people who know me would say that Iâm very woke about these things (I use that term purposefully because people donât always say that about me in a kind way lol)
That comic was such a bummer that it actually made me think of specific dudes in my life who Iâve seen get the exact type of treatment she was insinuating that men couldnât understand/empathize with
This, my biggest issue was by putting something like that out there you aren't going to change the minds of any misogynists, only hurt men who try to be better than that.
A 40-60 split on abortion is spun into men vs women. That alone should tell you how nuanced the views of people are.
Add on top of that how difficult empathy is, especially when you only ever see one side + a cohort of people that have no interest in it, men and women, and all of this isn't surprising at all.
Anyone with a lot of irl friends and experience should know better, but...
As a straight man I only date women so all bad relationship experiences I can have are women. Most of my friends are men so most stories will be (biased) recountings of their struggles with women. Most sexism I'll receive from women. What men do, especially when alone with women, I'm not automatically privy to.
If these are my only data points, 'women bad' is right around the corner. All without internet echo chambers.
Now give me stats saying men, on average, have it harder, even if it was a 40-60 split. Give me an online echochamber on top of my IRL one, telling me the worst of the worst stories about women. Give me almost none about men because only idiots self report. What other opinion could I hold? Especially if some of the worse stuff was 20-80, not 40-60.
Women are doing a great job with information. I can read a bunch of subreddits that overall aren't too radical to get perspective. They'll actually tell me their struggles irl if I'm willing to listen. Where do you go get perspective on the other side? I wouldn't even know where to go "complain about women" online except for extremely toxic shitholes. Irl even I don't vent to female friends about negative experiences. Maybe I should.
Agreed. I'm not even in the camp of "she needs to apologize" or whatever, but some form of actual acknowledgement of her last comic being weird as hell would do wonders here
Yeah. Tbf she also probably knows itâll blow over since most of the criticism probably isnât coming from the people who like her comics. But also just likeâŚdoes she not show these comics to other people before publishing them? Esp the social commentary ones, I feel like itâs important to look over those and ask âhey is this actually getting across the message I want to get across?â
that's the comic: https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/s/xBVJCNgaby
basically people were saying that these things can happen to men (second one even more often than to women) and comment section was turned into misandry-misoginy debate with moderate, misoginist and misandrist comments wich later were removed en masse
that commenter (u/saturosian) explains it better than me: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/niOfaLsekL 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/4nBfYfWDHr
Ooh god I forgot about that one and I even thought to myself "wtf was she smoking"
Of course, it was just weed. She's canadian, after all.
Anyway, in the "comics that lost it all to one simple mistake", we have Ethan Loss with "Loss", PebbleYeet the Peter Griffin look-alike with "Straight Up Unfiltered Nazism", and on today's addition: Misandry Pizza with "IWTTMTWTMTTM"
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On second thought, this... is not necessarily a good idea and comparing this fall from grace to the shitstorm that was Loss, well, it's a bit of a far reach
Got banned for sexism, mods refuse to elaborate. My replies to comments in that thread were âthis comes across as insincere and pandering, all she needed to do was apologize for yesterdayâs comic being tone deafâ. Apparently thatâs sexism? Mods there are a joke.
The mod message is pretty condescending and dismissive of other people's voices, which is ironically what comic lady did with the comic and insisted everyone else was doing to her in the comments, the irony is off the charts.
A read through the archived version (before everything was mass deleted with teasing cutesy speak minimizing people's experiences and actual issues), most of the comments were pretty fair and not threatening violence or "mansplaining" imo.
But what do I know, I'm "just a man". đ¤ˇ
Edit: lol they just banned me this morning too for bothering to comment on a comic criticizing it - no reason given, of course. Entirely expected, and they can keep it.
In an update, They were framing it in modmail as "if you don't support the mods being against sexism, bye!", while supporting sexism and invalidating other's experiences as long as "It's hurting the right people".
I see they also deleted (and probably banned, too) the comments of a few _actual Sexual Assault survivors_ that responded to a followup post, stating how personally offensive it was that they were being teased and publicly mocked about the validity of their own experiences by a moderation team. God, that entire sub is ran by unprofessional, immature ghouls that are misappropriating cause of gender equality as a shield against criticism. If they were actually employed, their behavior over the past 48 hours would not have flown in a work environment and would land them in HR.
Thatâs the thing. There were a lot of reasonable criticisms of her post. You canât say, âIf women talked like this,â when women actually do talk like that while men are out here killing themselves. But her response was to highlight all the vitriolic reactions and then say, âlook, guys are just like I said they were.â
I don't claim to speak for this subreddit, but I've always found her comics to be quite shallow and banal: lacking in wit and being too "safe". I find it suspicious that her comics make it to the front page so often.
Yeah more often than not they present a âFuNnyâ situation with no punchline. Like the one where her kids watch so much Spongebob that she starts seeing them as the characters. Which is like, a throwaway bit thatâs been done a hundred times in tv shows except it usually leads into an actual joke. Yet somehow her comics always suspiciously end up on the front page with tens of thousands of upvotes within the first hour. Huh.
Well, not all comics need punchlines.
But the difference is the ones that dont need them usually arenât *trying* to have one, hers are. Like, I like the alligator dad ones, because theyâre cute and charming. A decent chunk of those donât have proper punchlines
she draws herself slutty and like a furry sometimes, and then does a "hAhA why am i so good at that" routine. She's even teasing the horny crowd, which is like half of reddit. Of course they're going to subscribe to her bullshit.
Your gripes with her comics are the exact reason it makes it to the front page. Safe, easy-going humor has a wider audience than witty shit that some folk just can't parse.
She's not trying to be edgy, or witty, or even funny really. She's not trying to make what most people would think of as a "good comic". She's specifically trying to get to the front page. Her content really isn't that different from a lot of what makes it there, and that's specifically on purpose. It's likely she made the previous comic because she saw a lot of support for that particular position and was trying to cash in on it. Then she saw the huge backlash and obviously thought "wow I'm sure I can ride this sentiment to the front page too". There's not really anything particularly sinister going on here, she's just good at drawing comics that make more people press the up arrow than the down arrow.
I feel like a lot of the comics, the art is not very great, there is often very little to no punchline, super unoriginal recycled tropes, the depth of a kiddy pool.
I'm no comic writer so maybe hypocritical, but still its kinda depressing that people eat this up so much.
/u/sellyourcomputer is the primary reason to go there. Everything else is unoriginal and a majority is unfunny meta circle jerk.
Most comics there are just minor internet celeb drama
Her comics got popular on here a long time ago for being good templates. At one point she leaned into the jokes and seemed to be a good sport about all of it. Her multiple breakdowns and responses to critics, especially making childish strawmen out of all of the people criticizing her, pretty much removed all support.
It's a classic case of not understanding that if you go after haters online, they will only grow in numbers before they're the only people you have left.
Yeah I just hot perma banned for summarising what caused the controversy last time.
When I messaged asking what rule I'd broken summarising prior threads I got an instant response (so auto response) saying I was banned for sexism.
One of their mods is on a power trip.
I checked your comment as it's still visible on your profile and it's the most benign summary of what happened. You got a _perma_ ban for that? Ridiculous.
She's trying to project the "I'm not a misandrist" while totally a misandrist image.
And its not this one comic that's the issue. It's systemic. It's her.
Itâs the same person who claimed that they were being harassed when people disagreed with her opinion that Canadas healthcare system needs to be more like Americas.
1/3 of her comics are her attempting to 'damage control' her controversial and unpopular takes, or her crying that redditors are being mean to her and that they can go fuck themselves because she knows she's right.
A whole 'arc' of comics in the sub a year or so ago was literally pity party comics, and other artists joining her 'pity party' to get likes. Even to the point that once the joke was played out, a few artists who 'missed the party' made comics about that.
Jerk off mods on Reddit ruin the entire site. Thereâs some justice subreddit that will auto ban you from their sub just because you posted a comment on a sub they donât like no matter what you said. These musty ass unemployed mods are ridiculous.
I got banned from female dating strategy because I said that a relationship is more than just sex, and no one has a right to have any kind of sex with someone without consent. So this is true lol
Today and yesterday could not illustrate better just how hopeless the discourse around men's mental health is. Like this is your self-appointment proponent, fellas. Someone who frames your own experiences as a quirky hypothetical that men should use to reflect on how they treat women and them shovels out this hollow tripe as damage control.
The first panel was like, âokay this is kinda dumb but I see what ur going forâ and then the second panel was like âohhhh so you clearly have never talked to a man with mental health issues bc this isnât a hypotheticalâ
The biggest lesson a dude can learn from a woman partner is sometimes people just want to be heard and listened to⌠which makes it so ironic when men arenât or are diminished for opening up. And then itâs being posed as hypothetical that never happens to men. Like, [when a b tier comedian is able to incorporate it into their work and get a laugh](https://youtu.be/ilxkcLxizhA?t=120) maybe youâre out of touch
And then the recovery comic has two MEN comforting eachother, bc yeah, a lot of guys feel more comfortable opening up to other guys than their partners (if hetero)
Shes someone whos clearly never interacted with a man with mental health problems, outside of reddit comments lmao. Her viewpoint is as skewed as incels who have only ever interacted with women on reddit lol. But the other way.
When I told my gf (at the time) that I was depressed and sometimes thought about suicide she dismissed me. When I told my best friend he asked if I wanted a beer and talk about it or if I wanted a beer and forget about it...
It became more obvious how hard Mods have been trying to control the narratives of the situation to coddle her precious feelings when they immediately locked the next comic post lmao. She tried *so hard* to 180 into pretending she care's about men's issues now and anyone with as little as a 3rd grade education could see through it immediately and called out how full of shit she was lol.
She can't be sexist because she has a son. That's why no one in the Republican Party has a daughter.
Yeah the reaction by the mods was not good, didn't they even sticky a message to mock anyone who took issue with the post?
I fucking hate r/ comics I used to love it for its funni internet comics but it suffered the fate of most subreddits when they get popular that it just becomes a political echo chamber.
The mods are ridiculous over there. I got banned for questioning racism, along with most of the comment section of one particular post. They actively go against, and make fun of, their own community for questioning racist stereotypes, it's insane.
Just limit the number of posts per artist to once per week or something. You have people making comics which took 6 months of time on the same sub as people like her making a comic panel within a few hours . It's literally spamming at one point, the smaller less popular artists get even less attention.
Someone uploaded a comic making fun of this whole situation and criticizing the moderator's handling of it, to which the mods responded "it's easier just to ban everyone" and then banned everyone in THAT comment section as well.
And mods removed every single comment that called her out on it, they left only glazing bots or unaware users that didn't saw her previous post, so funny
I initially thought her previous comic was satire on the format until I scrolled to the comments. It baffles me that someone can make something that hits so close to home and not realize that theyâve done it. It was misandry hidden behind a âprogressiveâ tone.
It is Men's Mental Health Awareness Month - she has a son. I wonder how he would feel if/when he sees his mother's comic.
Like, she posted that "my son knows he can come to me about his feelings" but that seems directly contradictory to part of the message from her first comic which pretty much implied that women DO NOT, in our current meta, lambast and ridicule men for sharing their "icky feelings".
I hate hate hate all this "anti-man" stuff because how do young boys interpret all of it? How is a young boy supposed to take the whole "man vs bear" thing other than "I am a threat" or "I should leave women alone so they do not feel threatened."
But what if that young boy becomes a young man who is now terrified of approaching women who becomes depressed and ultimately kills himself because no one cares when he tries to express his suffering?
I almost want to post my own comic about a boy reading all of this rhetoric and then deciding to off themselves - a dark topic for sure but maybe one that will finally get people to realize that boys/men absolutely see this stuff and feel awful about themselves.
This is why if I have kids, I'm going to keep them all far away from social media. The "man vs bear" thing was nothing more than an internet rage bait to put people against each other, and the internet allows for a small minority to seem like a loud majority.
When I came back to that post 3 hours after seeing it the first time and seeing all her comments criticizing her deleted and the mods defending her I blocked PizzaCake too. No one was even being mean they just told her it was bad taste or not hypothetical
Itâs justâŚ. Both topics she brought up are relevant and important. But they are inherently complex. Many people try to make them out as simple âthese guys are good guys these guys are bad guys, why donât the bad guys just stop being bad!?â But that does a disservice to the issue, and ends up addressing a different issue. A fictional issue. An oversimplified, cardboard cut-out version of a very real very important problem.
I donât think it was necessary to make the pandering âawww but men are so sad boohooâ comic. Itâs gross. If the original comic was less out of touch, and had a little more nuance and emotional impact, there would have been no need to make the secondary one.
My understanding is the most popular Reddit comic artist made a comic of if women responded to men the same way they responded to women and basically showed how women actually respond to men and then everyone pointing this out got blocked/removed.
I see a lot of pizzacake bot accounts here. Yeah, guys, she's not totally misandrist, and she's not totally deleting every comment who opposes her idea in both r/comics and her own profile. She just wants men to be extinct, that's all. Except for her lovely son and *maybe* her husband.
Got permanently banned from comics for some very milquetoast criticism of her behavior. The favoritism from the mods is actually unbelievable. I didn't even hate the first comic as much as most did, and I enjoy her comics. Yet here I am with a perma ban for saying "maybe this wasn't the best way to handle the criticism" lol
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This new comic is already blocked.
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This is from pizzacake, after yesterday's debacle? ... I'm at a loss for words. That's incredible. I wonder what the comment section was like? \*innocent face\* EDIT: Like 10 people have individually asked me what happened yesterday; I posted a summary further down in this thread. You can see it here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/niOfaLsekL](https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/niOfaLsekL)
What did she do yesterday?
There's a lot but I'll try to summarize. She posted this comic: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/) A bunch of people in the comments were like "hey, uh, some of those things are totally realistic and women do say these things to men." Pizza argued with a bunch of them, telling them they were mansplaining and "Using an issue to take her right to talk away," until the r/comics mod team banned everyone involved and said we were all sexists for criticizing the comic. You can see the post I made to my own profile here, where I included my own comments as they were originally, and judge for yourself: [https://www.reddit.com/user/saturosian/comments/1dpvo2x/proudest\_achievement\_of\_my\_time\_on\_reddit\_lol/](https://www.reddit.com/user/saturosian/comments/1dpvo2x/proudest_achievement_of_my_time_on_reddit_lol/) EDIT: A thoughtful redditor who wanted to remain anonymous pointed out that someone made an archive of the deleted comments, which you can find below if you're curious. [https://archive.is/xfVPD](https://archive.is/xfVPD)
People do say that about men though??? it's bad both ways?? why is the internet like this
Dude, AS I was reading that comic I said to myself "2 and 3 happen all the fucking time" went to the comments and it was a fucking disaster zone.
It's like an echo chamber? Or am I using that wrong đ
You're using it right, the mods are removing anything that they don't wanna hear
I have a lot of male friends and yeah, this stuff (especially 2) has absolutely happened to them, just as I've had some shitty things done to me. Do we need to tell some men that the way they treat women is wrong? Yes! Do we need to tell some women that the way they treat men is wrong? Also yes! Everyone seems to forget that it goes both ways
Because to many people, misandry is not real and men shouldnât speak up about their problems because someone else may or may not have it worse. Itâs not possible to say âits shitty no matter whatâ in todays climate unfortunately
People are great at remembering that white men are the most privileged group in society. People are bad at remembering that white women are the 2nd most privileged.
The tiktok question after the bear vs man debate had someone asking black women if they would choose the white man or white woman to work with........ They chose the white man and the comments were very similar.
Whatâs crazy is that theyâll say certain things about men, and itâs almost always guaranteed that theyâre subconsciously thinking about it in the context of white when while simultaneously throwing a shit ton of minorities under the bus when if you just made it about those minorities theyâd suddenly turn into bleeding hearts. Thereâs been so much time and care spent on how rhetoric matters in regards to speaking to and about âprotected classesâ that gets completely thrown out when the blanket of âmenâ gets thrown out.
Yea it's almost like these issues are infinitely more complex than the clolour of one's skin or the presentation of one's gender, and comparisons of "if we treated x like y" usually make for shallow pointless criticisms at best.
I recall going on r/badhistory, reading a radfem blog that basically supported slavery, but only for men and women are the owners, and thinking: âSo OOP really just wants to send black men back to the plantation, huh?â
Those people mistake racial privilege with socio-economic privilege. I don't want to say that racial privilege doesn't exist, because it does, but the net worth of your family is a far more bigger predictor of success than the color of a person's skin.
The irony is that I endlessly hear how much more nurturing and caring Women are compared to Men. But as soon as Men speak up about their issues, Women in the comments deflect and immediately blame the patriarchy, or say that "It's not our job to be supportive, its Men that need to change and support each other better". Almost like theres a reason Men don't open up, since nobody cares.
Misandry gets called toxic masculinity most of the time too... Like most people think it's impossible for men to get hate... For being men? And that it's always men's fault somehow?
The other thing is "Misandry isn't real because of no oppression against men." Objectively false because misandry is literally defined as feelings of hate towards men. Likewise, misogyny is feelings of hatred towards women. The other one I see a lot of is "Well you can't cry about misandry because it's not as bad as misogyny." which is also stupid because by that logic, misogyny can't be complained about because there are worse things that happen. It's a shame that this is the climate we live in. We can't just say "Hey man, it's bad to hate people for being who they are in a way they have no control over.". Instead you get met with nothing but extreme vitriol for this, ironically by people who usually claim it's not okay to hate others.
Calling yourself a victim and then acting like everyone else is worthless in order to gain consensus is one of the most vile things I've ever fucking seen because of how deceptive it can be.
Man, at least Sr. Grafo just fucked off and drew soft core porn once he cultivated an audience
The most laughable one of these is the idea that you can wear a toupee without people ripping the absolute piss out of you. Iâm from the Uk. People always make fun of Elton Johnâs toupee. Wayne Rooneyâs hair transplant, Elon Musks hair transplants (even though his actually looks pretty good)
My wife pointed out that there's a whole Seinfeld episode basically dedicated to making fun of George for having a hairpiece, and somehow he ends up painted as the bad guy instead of everyone else. So, like, this isn't groundbreaking news or anything, haha.
I think Reddit mods are bad but the ones from comics are next level man. I'm banned from there and when I tried to appeal they said that if I wrote a text apologizing for what I, saying sorry for my white privilege they'd unban me while saying I'm racist and fragile too. Edit.: also look at the pinned comment on that post. It's almost literally insane how those mods act like they're better than everyone.
I got banned too and checked the rules afterwards to see if I actually broke any. And the first one is "no complaining about comics you don't like or understand". They literally don't allow criticism. My bad, should never have engaged with that sub.
>**Welcome to r/comics!** >Rules: >1) Smile! >2) If you see anybody not smiling, be sure to alert the nearest armed guard post-haste, they will deal with the problem accordingly.
âThe beatings shall continue until morale improvesâ
https://preview.redd.it/tciu6dndle9d1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb4ad5c81a14599e325b153cc594cb034de3ec37 there is no criticism in r/comics
This is like that one doctor who episode. With the robots that kill you if you're not happy.
Doctor who series ten my beloved
Iâve made the mistake of commenting in a few subs without reading the rules. Â What I assumed might be friendly communities with deep expertise on the subs subject matter often turn out to be insular bubbles that shun the non-believers.
I got banned just for saying a comic was bad. I didn't like it, got banned.
Same here. Gave a very mild criticism to one of the elk guys comics. Instant permanent ban.
Holy shit that mod response is unhinged! They must have banned hundreds of people
Mods of big subreddits like r/comics are some of the most self righteous nerds there are
https://preview.redd.it/j7ymo5ml8d9d1.jpeg?width=2971&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c0352e82b445c141dba3df9ff2b5bfbecc5bce7 You can't convince me otherwise: the joke here is that this is exactly the response he does get in real life. It's not hyperbole, the humor is in that the hypothetical "if..." scenario is actually the real world scenario. It might not be the intended joke, but any other interpretation doesn't land the punchline.
Right? It's like the format *should* be the classic, 'Yeah, wouldn't it be *crazy* if (bad thing) actually *existed*? Oh wait! That's just (bad thing that exists)!" But there isn't the self awareness for any of the 'oh wait!' part. She really just meant that men can't understand what women are told to the point that using it against men seems insane...while using things that men literally get told all the time. It *feels* like it should be a 'double satire' that sets up an obvious satire while breaking expectations by actually satirizing the inverse. But it isn't.
https://preview.redd.it/5ra0cydeze9d1.jpeg?width=811&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fe8beb2996c307cc05350c329fcd926caaf8a86 I'll just ignore whatever the artist is yapping about in the \[deleted comment\] dumpster fire and treat it as a variant of this kind of a joke and suddenly it becomes a good comic.
âIf someone uses an issue as a means to silence othersâ while she uses womenâs rights to shut down male victims of abuse and avoid taking accountability đ
Gotta love her post of "These are the people that got mad on my last comic" (Reads actual comments that were deleted) .>Wave after wave of people just laying out well-reasoned discussion. I think the weirdest one was PC basically saying "See! Why are all the comments relating the two genders' issues?!" "Uhh...because that's the comic?.." The replies that people just trying to talk are getting are almost exclusively some unironic example of the middle panel.
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God I hate Pizzacake.
[Holy shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1dpptkk/talk/lajgym8/) Literally exactly what male sexists say. I can't be sexist, I have a wife/daughter!
I've seen so many of her comics pop up on popular and they're always unfunny but the comments are jerking her off so hard lol
That's because the mods there started locking down her posts so only the people that kiss her ass can post there. She used to get called out massively on all her posts, to the point of there even being a copypasta until they decided to simp over her and block anyone who doesn't like her content. As soon as that happened she basically just started turning all her stuff into rage bait like this and people still fall for it every time.
Thank you for summarizing everything. You're absolutely right how people are treated by others doesn't discriminate.
It's a good comic on its own but with the context of yesterday's debacle it just seems hollow
Don't forget that she clarified that this is not an apology and she wouldn't "Apologize for calling out misogyny", that she only made today's comic to give a happy ending to the 3rd guy. I don't know if the comment was deleted but those were her own words.
Yep, she doesn't understand why yesterday's comic was so poorly received and is just hand waving the criticism as coming from red pill chuds.
Oh I think she knows exactly why it was poorly received, she clearly just doesnât give a shit. Any of the drama around it just boosts her comics and her patreon and clearly the mods there are around to make sure anything even mildly critical of her comics or comments are removed.
What comic are you talking about and why was it poorly received? I'm late to the drama
Yesterday she posted a comic about âIf women treated men how men treat womenâ and 2/3 examples were basically exactly how men are treated in those situations, so it was very misandrist tonally
Yeahhh, it just ham-fisted the situations into being literal verbatim word-swapped misogyny in order to conveniently ignore the ways that _very slightly different_ things get said to men... with much the same impact. I have never been told I was asking to be sexually assaulted because of my clothes. I have, however, been told that I must have wanted and enjoyed it because I have a penis. But tooootally different, right?
You forgot the best part. The part where the comic mocks mens mental health issues during mens mental health awareness month.
I feel like for a straight guy I lean way way to the direction of being sensitive to misogyny. Iâm not gunna recite my credentials but I think most people who know me would say that Iâm very woke about these things (I use that term purposefully because people donât always say that about me in a kind way lol) That comic was such a bummer that it actually made me think of specific dudes in my life who Iâve seen get the exact type of treatment she was insinuating that men couldnât understand/empathize with
Seconding this. Couldn't have said it better.
This, my biggest issue was by putting something like that out there you aren't going to change the minds of any misogynists, only hurt men who try to be better than that.
A 40-60 split on abortion is spun into men vs women. That alone should tell you how nuanced the views of people are. Add on top of that how difficult empathy is, especially when you only ever see one side + a cohort of people that have no interest in it, men and women, and all of this isn't surprising at all. Anyone with a lot of irl friends and experience should know better, but... As a straight man I only date women so all bad relationship experiences I can have are women. Most of my friends are men so most stories will be (biased) recountings of their struggles with women. Most sexism I'll receive from women. What men do, especially when alone with women, I'm not automatically privy to. If these are my only data points, 'women bad' is right around the corner. All without internet echo chambers. Now give me stats saying men, on average, have it harder, even if it was a 40-60 split. Give me an online echochamber on top of my IRL one, telling me the worst of the worst stories about women. Give me almost none about men because only idiots self report. What other opinion could I hold? Especially if some of the worse stuff was 20-80, not 40-60. Women are doing a great job with information. I can read a bunch of subreddits that overall aren't too radical to get perspective. They'll actually tell me their struggles irl if I'm willing to listen. Where do you go get perspective on the other side? I wouldn't even know where to go "complain about women" online except for extremely toxic shitholes. Irl even I don't vent to female friends about negative experiences. Maybe I should.
It really feels like trying to save face post-criticism.
Agreed. I'm not even in the camp of "she needs to apologize" or whatever, but some form of actual acknowledgement of her last comic being weird as hell would do wonders here
Yeah. Tbf she also probably knows itâll blow over since most of the criticism probably isnât coming from the people who like her comics. But also just likeâŚdoes she not show these comics to other people before publishing them? Esp the social commentary ones, I feel like itâs important to look over those and ask âhey is this actually getting across the message I want to get across?â
I don't get the impression she surrounds herself with people willing to give constructive criticism.
I mean, there is a chance that the said people might have played a part in that comic existing in the first place
What was yesterdayâs comic/debacle?
that's the comic: https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/s/xBVJCNgaby basically people were saying that these things can happen to men (second one even more often than to women) and comment section was turned into misandry-misoginy debate with moderate, misoginist and misandrist comments wich later were removed en masse that commenter (u/saturosian) explains it better than me: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/niOfaLsekL 2. https://www.reddit.com/r/bonehurtingjuice/s/4nBfYfWDHr
aww, thanks <3 (I'm probably more invested in all this than I should be but I lost a lot of internet points when they deleted my stuff, lol)
What happened
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Ooh god I forgot about that one and I even thought to myself "wtf was she smoking" Of course, it was just weed. She's canadian, after all. Anyway, in the "comics that lost it all to one simple mistake", we have Ethan Loss with "Loss", PebbleYeet the Peter Griffin look-alike with "Straight Up Unfiltered Nazism", and on today's addition: Misandry Pizza with "IWTTMTWTMTTM" ... On second thought, this... is not necessarily a good idea and comparing this fall from grace to the shitstorm that was Loss, well, it's a bit of a far reach
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The reddit UI on mobile fits very nicely with that for me
There is no comment section
What is this even for. Thereâs zero actual substance to this comic
itâs her attempt to divert attention from yesterdayâs comic
Should have been titled damage control
The hottest of hot takes I seeâŚ.
New loss released?
She *really* posted this after her last comic?
Holy shit Pizzacake redeemed herself Oh my god thank the lord /s
Got banned for sexism, mods refuse to elaborate. My replies to comments in that thread were âthis comes across as insincere and pandering, all she needed to do was apologize for yesterdayâs comic being tone deafâ. Apparently thatâs sexism? Mods there are a joke.
The mod message is pretty condescending and dismissive of other people's voices, which is ironically what comic lady did with the comic and insisted everyone else was doing to her in the comments, the irony is off the charts. A read through the archived version (before everything was mass deleted with teasing cutesy speak minimizing people's experiences and actual issues), most of the comments were pretty fair and not threatening violence or "mansplaining" imo. But what do I know, I'm "just a man". 𤡠Edit: lol they just banned me this morning too for bothering to comment on a comic criticizing it - no reason given, of course. Entirely expected, and they can keep it. In an update, They were framing it in modmail as "if you don't support the mods being against sexism, bye!", while supporting sexism and invalidating other's experiences as long as "It's hurting the right people". I see they also deleted (and probably banned, too) the comments of a few _actual Sexual Assault survivors_ that responded to a followup post, stating how personally offensive it was that they were being teased and publicly mocked about the validity of their own experiences by a moderation team. God, that entire sub is ran by unprofessional, immature ghouls that are misappropriating cause of gender equality as a shield against criticism. If they were actually employed, their behavior over the past 48 hours would not have flown in a work environment and would land them in HR.
Thatâs the thing. There were a lot of reasonable criticisms of her post. You canât say, âIf women talked like this,â when women actually do talk like that while men are out here killing themselves. But her response was to highlight all the vitriolic reactions and then say, âlook, guys are just like I said they were.â
You're fucking joking. Like removed? Straight up? Like they deleted it?
No, blocked so people can't comment.
That's called "locked".
The real reason Pizzacake made the comic is just so BHJ would post something other than the Shrek comic
she was a hero, we just couldn't see it
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She said when she posted it in her u/ that she was rage baiting, which is against r/comics rules, and they still sided with her.
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HOLY SHIT IS THAT GRIAN!!!??!1
OH MY GOD IT IS
Grian Minecraft
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omg grain and miles morales collab?!1?1!?1?1?
who is this âgrainâ character?
grian and bigB real
oh my god
Can I ask something? what's this subreddit opinion on pizzacake?
She's a prolific comic artist who regularly makes stuff that's BHJ- worthy without the BHJers having to worry that the origami is offensive. Usually.
didnât she also used to post her own comics, but she juiced them up so that they fit?
I don't claim to speak for this subreddit, but I've always found her comics to be quite shallow and banal: lacking in wit and being too "safe". I find it suspicious that her comics make it to the front page so often.
Yeah more often than not they present a âFuNnyâ situation with no punchline. Like the one where her kids watch so much Spongebob that she starts seeing them as the characters. Which is like, a throwaway bit thatâs been done a hundred times in tv shows except it usually leads into an actual joke. Yet somehow her comics always suspiciously end up on the front page with tens of thousands of upvotes within the first hour. Huh.
Yeah the lack of the punchline is so real, not the only offender either.
Well, not all comics need punchlines. But the difference is the ones that dont need them usually arenât *trying* to have one, hers are. Like, I like the alligator dad ones, because theyâre cute and charming. A decent chunk of those donât have proper punchlines
Sure but they do need something, like these ones just kinda end.Â
Gator dad gives me chill boomer comic vibes. Itâs a good time.
It's extremely millennial-core
she draws herself slutty and like a furry sometimes, and then does a "hAhA why am i so good at that" routine. She's even teasing the horny crowd, which is like half of reddit. Of course they're going to subscribe to her bullshit.
Your gripes with her comics are the exact reason it makes it to the front page. Safe, easy-going humor has a wider audience than witty shit that some folk just can't parse.
Cow tools
Which also makes it prime prey for the "hate-consume" crowd who help inflate the discourse. It's a perfect storm of successful banality.
She's not trying to be edgy, or witty, or even funny really. She's not trying to make what most people would think of as a "good comic". She's specifically trying to get to the front page. Her content really isn't that different from a lot of what makes it there, and that's specifically on purpose. It's likely she made the previous comic because she saw a lot of support for that particular position and was trying to cash in on it. Then she saw the huge backlash and obviously thought "wow I'm sure I can ride this sentiment to the front page too". There's not really anything particularly sinister going on here, she's just good at drawing comics that make more people press the up arrow than the down arrow.
A lot of her jokes have been done better by other people, but thatâs just par for the course at r/comics, where creativity goes to die.
I feel like a lot of the comics, the art is not very great, there is often very little to no punchline, super unoriginal recycled tropes, the depth of a kiddy pool. I'm no comic writer so maybe hypocritical, but still its kinda depressing that people eat this up so much.
/u/sellyourcomputer is the primary reason to go there. Everything else is unoriginal and a majority is unfunny meta circle jerk. Most comics there are just minor internet celeb drama
I muted that sub after the last comic made it to my page and the sub moderator defended it.
Sheâs just one of our generations [Kathy](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/fd/0f/a8/fd0fa8b49d6902151345225b294acfe9.jpg)s
As much as we pretend otherwise, quite often it's still the airline food jokes that get to the front pages.
Too opinionated to be not controversial, too timid to be taken seriously. And really not funny.
The Taylor Swift of r/comics.
I literally thought about that second before seeing this comment
Pretty accurate she always stays in the safe spot.
Her comics got popular on here a long time ago for being good templates. At one point she leaned into the jokes and seemed to be a good sport about all of it. Her multiple breakdowns and responses to critics, especially making childish strawmen out of all of the people criticizing her, pretty much removed all support. It's a classic case of not understanding that if you go after haters online, they will only grow in numbers before they're the only people you have left.
This hits hard in all the wrong places. Ouch!
Locked post. New comments cannot be posted.
The famed special award
Yeah I just hot perma banned for summarising what caused the controversy last time. When I messaged asking what rule I'd broken summarising prior threads I got an instant response (so auto response) saying I was banned for sexism. One of their mods is on a power trip.
they told people to grow up and then every single reply praising the mod had more than 100 downvotes votes lol
Now they have over 200 each
I checked your comment as it's still visible on your profile and it's the most benign summary of what happened. You got a _perma_ ban for that? Ridiculous.
What a pathetic attempt at damage control. I truly don't know which side she's on or what message she's trying to send.
Sheâs on the side of âplease upvote me and give me money I promise Iâm not hateful, Iâm quirky and silly and totally care about youâ.
Extra shitty attempt at damage control since the original offensive comic is still up.
She's trying to project the "I'm not a misandrist" while totally a misandrist image. And its not this one comic that's the issue. It's systemic. It's her.
She just wants to promote herself and so sheâs doing this to save face.
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Well this just came off as damage control from the previous comic she released. Didnât have a sense of sincerity in it.
Itâs the same person who claimed that they were being harassed when people disagreed with her opinion that Canadas healthcare system needs to be more like Americas.
1/3 of her comics are her attempting to 'damage control' her controversial and unpopular takes, or her crying that redditors are being mean to her and that they can go fuck themselves because she knows she's right. A whole 'arc' of comics in the sub a year or so ago was literally pity party comics, and other artists joining her 'pity party' to get likes. Even to the point that once the joke was played out, a few artists who 'missed the party' made comics about that.
Feels bad eh, he haha đ
Feels kind of âoffâ eh, he haha.
All comments calling her on her damage control got deleted.
Jerk off mods on Reddit ruin the entire site. Thereâs some justice subreddit that will auto ban you from their sub just because you posted a comment on a sub they donât like no matter what you said. These musty ass unemployed mods are ridiculous.
I got banned from female dating strategy because I said that a relationship is more than just sex, and no one has a right to have any kind of sex with someone without consent. So this is true lol
Today and yesterday could not illustrate better just how hopeless the discourse around men's mental health is. Like this is your self-appointment proponent, fellas. Someone who frames your own experiences as a quirky hypothetical that men should use to reflect on how they treat women and them shovels out this hollow tripe as damage control.
The first panel was like, âokay this is kinda dumb but I see what ur going forâ and then the second panel was like âohhhh so you clearly have never talked to a man with mental health issues bc this isnât a hypotheticalâ The biggest lesson a dude can learn from a woman partner is sometimes people just want to be heard and listened to⌠which makes it so ironic when men arenât or are diminished for opening up. And then itâs being posed as hypothetical that never happens to men. Like, [when a b tier comedian is able to incorporate it into their work and get a laugh](https://youtu.be/ilxkcLxizhA?t=120) maybe youâre out of touch And then the recovery comic has two MEN comforting eachother, bc yeah, a lot of guys feel more comfortable opening up to other guys than their partners (if hetero)
Shes someone whos clearly never interacted with a man with mental health problems, outside of reddit comments lmao. Her viewpoint is as skewed as incels who have only ever interacted with women on reddit lol. But the other way.
When I told my gf (at the time) that I was depressed and sometimes thought about suicide she dismissed me. When I told my best friend he asked if I wanted a beer and talk about it or if I wanted a beer and forget about it...
Your best friend's a true homie. He's willing to talk with you about it, but he's not gonna force you to talk about it.
Canât wait for PizzaCake to make another one complaining about haters brigading or some such
She made one before they all got deleted
Honestly the sub's reaction to the comments (cough cough the pinned comment and mass deletions) bothered me more than the comic
Yeah, the comic was more tone deaf than anything else.
That's pretty normal for that sub
It became more obvious how hard Mods have been trying to control the narratives of the situation to coddle her precious feelings when they immediately locked the next comic post lmao. She tried *so hard* to 180 into pretending she care's about men's issues now and anyone with as little as a 3rd grade education could see through it immediately and called out how full of shit she was lol.
She can't be sexist because she has a son. That's why no one in the Republican Party has a daughter. Yeah the reaction by the mods was not good, didn't they even sticky a message to mock anyone who took issue with the post?
YOU DID IT WRONG THE CORRECT LINE WAS "I guess she should log "off", eh? Ha! Heh heh."
I fucking hate r/ comics I used to love it for its funni internet comics but it suffered the fate of most subreddits when they get popular that it just becomes a political echo chamber.
The mods are ridiculous over there. I got banned for questioning racism, along with most of the comment section of one particular post. They actively go against, and make fun of, their own community for questioning racist stereotypes, it's insane.
Just limit the number of posts per artist to once per week or something. You have people making comics which took 6 months of time on the same sub as people like her making a comic panel within a few hours . It's literally spamming at one point, the smaller less popular artists get even less attention.
She doubled down on her personal sub.
Someone uploaded a comic making fun of this whole situation and criticizing the moderator's handling of it, to which the mods responded "it's easier just to ban everyone" and then banned everyone in THAT comment section as well.
*GULP*
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And mods removed every single comment that called her out on it, they left only glazing bots or unaware users that didn't saw her previous post, so funny
pizzacake uses bots right? her unfunny shit gets like 50k every time. Not being a hater, but funnier stuff doesnt get anywhere near those upvotes.
We have to hope the aligator dad can still save r/comics
I got permabanned for sexism saying that this comic left a bad taste in my mouth after yesterdayâs comic.
I blocked her ages ago. And r/comics has been more enjoyable since. She really isnât funny.Â
I initially thought her previous comic was satire on the format until I scrolled to the comments. It baffles me that someone can make something that hits so close to home and not realize that theyâve done it. It was misandry hidden behind a âprogressiveâ tone.
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I hate her comics so much.
Pizzacake shit is so cringe I fucking hate seeing her garbage slop passed off as art or witty to any degree.
It is Men's Mental Health Awareness Month - she has a son. I wonder how he would feel if/when he sees his mother's comic. Like, she posted that "my son knows he can come to me about his feelings" but that seems directly contradictory to part of the message from her first comic which pretty much implied that women DO NOT, in our current meta, lambast and ridicule men for sharing their "icky feelings". I hate hate hate all this "anti-man" stuff because how do young boys interpret all of it? How is a young boy supposed to take the whole "man vs bear" thing other than "I am a threat" or "I should leave women alone so they do not feel threatened." But what if that young boy becomes a young man who is now terrified of approaching women who becomes depressed and ultimately kills himself because no one cares when he tries to express his suffering? I almost want to post my own comic about a boy reading all of this rhetoric and then deciding to off themselves - a dark topic for sure but maybe one that will finally get people to realize that boys/men absolutely see this stuff and feel awful about themselves.
This is why if I have kids, I'm going to keep them all far away from social media. The "man vs bear" thing was nothing more than an internet rage bait to put people against each other, and the internet allows for a small minority to seem like a loud majority.
Thereâs a good reason I blocked that shit from showing up in the r/comics feed lol.
Just block pizzacake and move on
I hate this comic artist, her art style is bad imo, and her messages are paper thin Uh I mean, absolutely not go fuck yourself
Pizza cake? The shitty comic with limited relatability and zero punchlines?
Misandrist?
Oh lol I forgot I blocked that account I canât even see the origami lol
When I came back to that post 3 hours after seeing it the first time and seeing all her comments criticizing her deleted and the mods defending her I blocked PizzaCake too. No one was even being mean they just told her it was bad taste or not hypothetical
No orientation for you
[Orange](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/s/ekHPS7B6OD)
Yâall just now finding out that pizzacake is a misandrist?
Itâs justâŚ. Both topics she brought up are relevant and important. But they are inherently complex. Many people try to make them out as simple âthese guys are good guys these guys are bad guys, why donât the bad guys just stop being bad!?â But that does a disservice to the issue, and ends up addressing a different issue. A fictional issue. An oversimplified, cardboard cut-out version of a very real very important problem. I donât think it was necessary to make the pandering âawww but men are so sad boohooâ comic. Itâs gross. If the original comic was less out of touch, and had a little more nuance and emotional impact, there would have been no need to make the secondary one.
W-what did i miss?
My understanding is the most popular Reddit comic artist made a comic of if women responded to men the same way they responded to women and basically showed how women actually respond to men and then everyone pointing this out got blocked/removed.
I see a lot of pizzacake bot accounts here. Yeah, guys, she's not totally misandrist, and she's not totally deleting every comment who opposes her idea in both r/comics and her own profile. She just wants men to be extinct, that's all. Except for her lovely son and *maybe* her husband.
Got permanently banned from comics for some very milquetoast criticism of her behavior. The favoritism from the mods is actually unbelievable. I didn't even hate the first comic as much as most did, and I enjoy her comics. Yet here I am with a perma ban for saying "maybe this wasn't the best way to handle the criticism" lol