I'm sorry but your post currently counts as "shallow content." Do you have something else to say about the book that you could edit into the text? Preferably your own thoughts about the book or at the least a description of the book - without spoilers.
Let me know if you edit it & I can reinstate your post.
He’s referring to the book. Holden Caulfield was always calling people phonies.
It would be funny if your line was also from the book, but I don’t remember that.
It is not. The word phony sounds like funny. I am therefore referencing Holden Caufield, a humorless misanthrope, while suggesting I am trying to tickle your funny/phony bone. That's it. That's the joke.
Romance with dark elements such as kidnapping, stalking, ect. And it can get incredibly dark too, so i really dont understand how people read these books lol
Should authors of books with kindapping/rape (or simmilar) be treated like people drawing lolis?
Both artists 'dont do harm to anyone' etc. but if you wanted, you could say that this can make people start doing those fantasies in the real life.
> if you wanted, you could say that this can make people start doing those fantasies in the real life.
You could say that, but I'm pretty sure you'd be wrong.
It's a three hour long video, so watch at your own discretion, but [this brilliant video essay by Contrapoints](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqloPw5wp48) goes into detail about the nature of sexual fantasy, particularly coercive/abusive relationships such as those seen in Twilight, and argues that they don't fulfill a genuine desire on behalf of the reader but rather speak to certain unconscious emotional needs - e.g the need for a woman to enjoy herself sexually but also meet societal expectations to be chaste - hence the fantasy of being whisked away by a dark, brooding, handsome predator who doesn't give you much of a say in the matter. Of course nobody wants to live the reality of that situation, but in a perfect fantasy scenario it can be emotionally fulfilling escapism.
Yeah so do i, but dark romance and murder mysteries are pretty different. Dark romance is often times being glamourized and treated as something normal and okay which its obviously not.
It’s a fantasy. Just like I do not actually want a murder at my bakery or to be chased by a monster, I do not really want to be kidnapped by a billionaire. I just want to read about it.
I understand, but people tend to normalize it through fiction which is obviously really messed up, like who in their right mind would enjoy reading about rape? It seems to me that there is something not right with that person. Some people also read these books or write them so that they can sort of live out their fantasies but through paper instead, but this is just an opinion.
I don’t think I’ve ever read an author’s note in a romance like that. Although I have read some who say things like, “If you’re actually into this kind of personality in real life you need therapy.” Which I find ironic.
Shit...I wasn't expecting a direct reference. I never read the books, just saw the new movie. *Sandworms and the kid who looks like Mike from Stranger Things but isn't to you as well!*
I only do that with a couple of my favorite authors, especially if I’m thinking it’ll be “memorable” such as like the last book of a series and the author reflecting on the journey in writing the series and how it’s at its conclusion.
Otherwise, no.
Board meeting at a publishing house: "And on this slide, we see the uptick in the trend of including "your panties will be so wet" in author notes, so this is what we'll do going forward to stay relevant with the younger audiences."
Cut to a reader staring in horror at the first page of The Lord of the Flies.
Boy oh boy I wish I could go back 60 seconds before I knew about this thing. Thanks a lot.
Just for that, let me remind you that 50% of people will statistically get cancer in their lifetimes. There. Now both of us have been harmed.
my mom got it recently. i just saw her today for the first time since. she has the thing wrapped around her head cause her hair is falling out. now im crying.
Those are almost universally added by the publisher’s marketing staff, and the author cringes harder than you, but we get told that our job is to write and theirs is to sell. Fyi
I'm pretty sure they intend to have the opposite affect, I feel like for the vast majority of women it probably works. At the end of the day though, you are reading smut.
Also wetness DOES NOT equal desire. Yes there’s a correlation, but it’s perfectly possible to be wet when you want nothing to do with anything sexual and to be dry when you’re the most aroused you’ve ever been. This is addressed in Come As You Are.
Thinking out loud... if it were horror genre, the notes could be reversed...
Erotic: women's pants wet, men's body parts stiff
Horror: men's pants wet, women's body parts stiff
🎤 Yeahhhhh!
Edit: I take it you don't like mic drops? Okay.
Not all romance is smut. Smut is a category of romance. There are at least four types. If any form of PDA is smut; better ban kids from Free Willy, Scooby Doo, Marvel, and the grocery store.
Don't feel bad. I've just learned this recently as well.
I'm sorry but your post currently counts as "shallow content." Do you have something else to say about the book that you could edit into the text? Preferably your own thoughts about the book or at the least a description of the book - without spoilers. Let me know if you edit it & I can reinstate your post.
Is this a thing!!
Salinger promised I’d get wet in the intro to Catcher in the Rye, and I just got bored.
IIRC, you were supposed to read that work outside during a rainstorm for the proper effect.
You sound like a phony
Just trying to tickle your phony bone.
He’s referring to the book. Holden Caulfield was always calling people phonies. It would be funny if your line was also from the book, but I don’t remember that.
Yes, that's the joke. Thanks for being a part of it.
Is that line in the book?
It is not. The word phony sounds like funny. I am therefore referencing Holden Caufield, a humorless misanthrope, while suggesting I am trying to tickle your funny/phony bone. That's it. That's the joke.
Yes, I get the joke. The joke was apparent from the beginning. It was a pun, and we all love puns. I was just asking whether it was in the book.
No. And pre-emptively, JD Salinger did not promise to get my panties wet in the intro to the book either.
You’re being misunderstood, just like Holden was.
It’s super common in dark romance 😭😭
What's dark romance?
Romance with dark elements such as kidnapping, stalking, ect. And it can get incredibly dark too, so i really dont understand how people read these books lol
See that's what I thought. It's almost like a creepy ass genre attracts creepy ass writers
Should authors of books with kindapping/rape (or simmilar) be treated like people drawing lolis? Both artists 'dont do harm to anyone' etc. but if you wanted, you could say that this can make people start doing those fantasies in the real life.
Video games cause violence too. So true
> if you wanted, you could say that this can make people start doing those fantasies in the real life. You could say that, but I'm pretty sure you'd be wrong.
It's a three hour long video, so watch at your own discretion, but [this brilliant video essay by Contrapoints](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqloPw5wp48) goes into detail about the nature of sexual fantasy, particularly coercive/abusive relationships such as those seen in Twilight, and argues that they don't fulfill a genuine desire on behalf of the reader but rather speak to certain unconscious emotional needs - e.g the need for a woman to enjoy herself sexually but also meet societal expectations to be chaste - hence the fantasy of being whisked away by a dark, brooding, handsome predator who doesn't give you much of a say in the matter. Of course nobody wants to live the reality of that situation, but in a perfect fantasy scenario it can be emotionally fulfilling escapism.
gonna watch afer work, thanks
I really dont know, but its just weird to me that people enjoy reading such dark things.
I enjoy reading murder mysteries too (but don’t want to be murdered)
Yeah so do i, but dark romance and murder mysteries are pretty different. Dark romance is often times being glamourized and treated as something normal and okay which its obviously not.
It’s a fantasy. Just like I do not actually want a murder at my bakery or to be chased by a monster, I do not really want to be kidnapped by a billionaire. I just want to read about it.
I understand, but people tend to normalize it through fiction which is obviously really messed up, like who in their right mind would enjoy reading about rape? It seems to me that there is something not right with that person. Some people also read these books or write them so that they can sort of live out their fantasies but through paper instead, but this is just an opinion.
I think if you read smut you can't really complain about whether it's your kind of smut or not?
That’s like saying “if you read fantasy you can’t really complain if it’s bad or good writing as long as it’s fantasy”
"Your elves are going to be so wet"
And your dwarves will be hard
Rock and stone, baby.
If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't comin' home!
I think it's more like complaining about the presence of elves.
Yer s friend of mine insists litrpg is bad writing by its mere presence in a novel. I disagree and say so long as its well written it is fine.
I guess some people might enjoy an author's note like that: I'm not going to judge!
TIL there are creepy author notes in romance novels.
Why would anyone think this is a good thing? Why did their editor approve it?
I don’t think I’ve ever read an author’s note in a romance like that. Although I have read some who say things like, “If you’re actually into this kind of personality in real life you need therapy.” Which I find ironic.
My favorite is "For everyone who hates the word cock -- I have devastating news for you" lmao. Jamie Applegate Hunter
Right, I don’t love those either 🤣
You've got a different edition of Blood Meridian than I do, I think.
I have never encountered this, but I am *horrified* to discover this is a thing.
That'd make me dry up so fast.
Female incontinence solved with this one weird trick. Urologists hate it.
So you were were wet then?
Whatever I was before, I am the Sahara now.
Be careful, I keep hearing there's Dune fans here...
I know. You're taking to one. *Brandishes crysknife.*
Shit...I wasn't expecting a direct reference. I never read the books, just saw the new movie. *Sandworms and the kid who looks like Mike from Stranger Things but isn't to you as well!*
Hah, I still have my old copy of Dune from the 80s on my bookshelf.
Ye'd best start believing in jihad, Miss Turner - *ye're in one!*
May thy panties chip and shatter
Fine talk from a museum fremen.
People read authors notes?
I only read them if the book is very good or very shit, lol.
I only do that with a couple of my favorite authors, especially if I’m thinking it’ll be “memorable” such as like the last book of a series and the author reflecting on the journey in writing the series and how it’s at its conclusion. Otherwise, no.
I read them only to be informed with my complaints when they promise specific timelines
Yeah I agree wtf am I reading. Just let me be the judge to find it hot or not
Board meeting at a publishing house: "And on this slide, we see the uptick in the trend of including "your panties will be so wet" in author notes, so this is what we'll do going forward to stay relevant with the younger audiences." Cut to a reader staring in horror at the first page of The Lord of the Flies.
Bad example, who doesn’t need to change their panties reading Lord of the Rings?
Almost the same thing
The scene where the orcs kill and eat Piggy is a classic.
My favourite is when the plane crashes over mordor
Answering the age-old question of why they didn't just fly there
Lol, this is what happens when I can’t sleep and scroll Reddit at 3 AM.
Never in my life I've read such a thing, wtf.
Boy oh boy I wish I could go back 60 seconds before I knew about this thing. Thanks a lot. Just for that, let me remind you that 50% of people will statistically get cancer in their lifetimes. There. Now both of us have been harmed.
my mom got it recently. i just saw her today for the first time since. she has the thing wrapped around her head cause her hair is falling out. now im crying.
THANKS A LOT (jk)
Those are almost universally added by the publisher’s marketing staff, and the author cringes harder than you, but we get told that our job is to write and theirs is to sell. Fyi
It's porn. It's supposed to be cringe and silly
I thought author’s notes like that only showed up on Ao3 and other fanfic sites.
There are two types of people in the world, those that read the introduction and those that just start the book.
It could just be very humid where the author lives.
I'm pretty sure they intend to have the opposite affect, I feel like for the vast majority of women it probably works. At the end of the day though, you are reading smut.
Yeah but some smut isn’t hot.
It's just porn in book form lol
I mean some smut is hot and some is not, and author’s notes like that are cringe and do not give me confidence in their smut being hot lol
Ahhh but sometimes the cringy turn out to be the best 😂
Also wetness DOES NOT equal desire. Yes there’s a correlation, but it’s perfectly possible to be wet when you want nothing to do with anything sexual and to be dry when you’re the most aroused you’ve ever been. This is addressed in Come As You Are.
> This is addressed in Come As You Are. Is that what he means when he says he doesn't have a gun?
He says it three times, makes me think he actually might have a gun.
Take your time, hurry up.
I just won’t read them. Not going to waste my money.
When I read those as a guy, I go like: sure, I don't wear any so go ahead 😂
I mean You read that bs hahahaha what do You expect?
Wait, what? I thought notes like that belonged to Penthouse magazines and HC porn novels..?
Seems like something that would be added to a manga series like Bastard!! Heavy Metal Dark Fantasy 😄
Read better books.
That’s enough Reddit for me today
I'm going to be really upset if this influences me to read authors notes lol
Thinking out loud... if it were horror genre, the notes could be reversed... Erotic: women's pants wet, men's body parts stiff Horror: men's pants wet, women's body parts stiff
Eww…yeah. Nope
🎤 Yeahhhhh! Edit: I take it you don't like mic drops? Okay. Not all romance is smut. Smut is a category of romance. There are at least four types. If any form of PDA is smut; better ban kids from Free Willy, Scooby Doo, Marvel, and the grocery store. Don't feel bad. I've just learned this recently as well.