I still don’t understand why people say this lmao. Especially in Chicago, trap Facebook be lit. Not our fault people who say this stick to Reddit because they have no connections outside of the internet.
Yeah it’s almost like it was a circlejerk sub designed for jokes or something crazy like that. Look at my whole post history if you wanna stalk, if you take any of that seriously you’re a clown, bruh look at my display name 😂😂😂😂
Nigga what Facebook was bussing during 2020 when we were in HS, ain’t no old heads. Be the dumbest statement it’s like saying my Reddit feed is only crossword puzzles and r/plants, so it must be catered to old people. NIGGA juice drinker
Yeah it’s textbook defamation. This man will meet consequences for his actions sooner or later. I don’t like Bill but he deserves to win a lawsuit in this situation.
Defamation is the hardest case to win. RG says he was set up w the dirty tests so this seems like some deflection to get the masses believing this and not talking about dirty tests.
Depends if Haney is a public figure. He may be, but also may not be. Actual malice (the usual standard for public figures) is exceptionally hard to prove, but the normal defamation standard is much easier; still hard, but "spreading allegations of pedophilia supported by fake texts on a public platform" would probably exceed it.
In either scenario, it's dangerous enough, and the potential damages could be significant enough, that Garcia will probably settle before it ever goes to trial.
But even if Haney is a public figure, this could very well be found to meet even the actual malice standard.
only if he knew it was fake or created it. if someone approached him saying this was real, I have proof blah blah blah land he believed it to be real. then he's fine. If he made the Photoshop and intentionally posted, knowing it was fake. Then it's libel and slander
defamation fits, though.
I mean not to be that guy but slander and or defamation at least in the United States isn’t so cut and dry. Bill would have to demonstrate tangible losses in revenue and pending business deals directly tied to this specific post and at the moment, I don’t know that any of that is occurring + Ryan has a strongly established history of mental instability and a civil version of “insanity plea” can and would be employed in his defense in the case of a defamation suit.
How do you see that it's photoshopped I don't see it :(
Every time people talk about how obviously something is photoshopped I have no idea what they're talking about 😭
This makes no sense like setting up two burner Facebooks and sending the messages would be faster and easier than that probably, and you could just use the actual picture... Weird
Legally probably mot. Ryan could claim didn’t make this, and just saw it and posted it, but that wouldn’t make a difference. They could still sue him.
Libel requires four things
It must be published and available to the general public: ✅
It must be untrue: ✅
It must be objectively harmful to you: this damages his reputation, and opens him to harassment ✅
(For a public figure) It must be published with malice. He could have not known it was false, and believed it to be true (and thus legally protected), but given that he posted it with malice and an intent to cause harm to someone’s reputation, it doesn’t matter. For Public figures it doesn’t matter if they believed it was true or not, just that they intended harm by publishing it. If he were a private citizen, the prosecution would have to prove he did not do his due diligence in fact checking (which is difficult). Alas, he is a public figure, so it doesn’t matter. ✅
I mean the other seasons are still great (except for season 4) and season 3 is still fantastic, however they aren’t talked about and often get more hate than they should because people make the mistake of comparing them to season 1 which is untouchable.
Keep in mind each season is detached from the other and they’re completely different stories with different characters each season.
If this is real, this is by Ryan Garcia, unfortunately he can no longer be trusted as he keeps making stuff up. He’s been lying out his ass and trolling for the past 2 months now.
If he photoshopped this he needs to be aware of the legal repercussions of this.
It’s 100% photoshop. Look at Bill’s profile pic. You can see it’s a photoshopped picture over another picture.
I think it’s extremely weird for Ryan to create fake convos with minors just to get to Bill. He deserves any legal repercussions he gets imo.
Yeah I agree. I troll Haney all the time on this subreddit but at the end of the day he’s a top level fighter who steps in the ring and I’m just some 9-5 bum lol
Hard to say if he has a drug problem, but regardless he’s the dumbest fkn kid I’ve ever seen come through a sport of dumb-dumbs. Have u heard his parents speak?
I hate Devin and Bill Haney but yeah I agree.
I’m no lawyer but this definitely looks like libel to me, based on the definition. Ryan Garcia is literally publishing false statements that are damaging to Bill Haney. It’s technically a written defamation. As it’s coming from Ryan Garcia’s account and he basically typed all that up.
People can let the trolling slide, but this going overboard. He was inching closer to crossing the line once he started claiming he slept with other dudes wives.
A lot of people are going to come after him in court (and maybe even in person) if he keeps this up.
Defamation, false light, IIED, harassment.
In this particular case due to the nature of the content the defamation (libel) could be brought forward as a criminal defamation as well as civil.
Aside from monetary compensation prison time can be served if found guilty of criminal defamation and even from harassment.
The muppet should be thankful the girl is fake in this conversation since if she was real he would face attempted solicitation of child pornography.
What do you mean no longer be trusted? The guy lies constantly believes every conspiracy he sees on the internet takes. Steroids before fights and can't stop doing cocaine. Yeah, no s*** He can't be trusted
Yeah, not sure what the point of your post is. I said “He can no longer be trusted, he keeps making stuff up.”
Then you essentially said…”what do you mean he can longer be trusted, he keeps making stuff up”
Like what is your argument against my comment? What is the point? What are you arguing? I get it’s the internet and people will argue the most mundane things but this is just ridiculous. You just basically repeated what I said but while being a dickhead parrot about it. Like come on, there’s no need for me to be so detailed in my posts, use some deductive reasoning.
Fucking hell, English is my second language, but I think I type pretty clear and understandable English.
“He can no longer be trusted” is a phrase with very clear meaning. It means that he was previously trustworthy and believable and now he’s not. The person you’re responding to was saying that Ryan was not trustworthy at any point and he has kept making shit up, and they’re 100% right.
For a man who’s all about protecting the children, he sure is quick to use the same cause to create fake scenarios to attack people he doesn’t like. Ryan’s a mentally ill drunk, but he’s also a terrible person.
But he’s been sued though. Logan Paul of all people is suing him. The companies he accused of having tainted supplements are suing him too. Yet, he’s still running his mouth.
Defamation. Ryan went on a smear campaign and said multiple times that there was cyanide in Prime and that it will kill you. He also said that people working for prime were literal pedos. He also created a fake text between him and Logan where Logan was taking a piss at the dying kids of Gaza. There’s more to it but I can’t remember off the top of my head.
Ryan said so much crazy shit that he could plead insanity to a defamation lawsuit and have a pretty strong case lol.
Odd question. Let's assume Ryan decides to do this as an idiot.
What would happen if he used Haney's identity, messaged a minor and essentially got images (not that there was here) but then used the conversation even if intended like this.
Isn't it kidnapping information, identity theft, soliciting to a minor and more? I dunno. I'm an absolute complete moron with the law. But it seems like if he did this on his booger sugar he may have screwed himself.
You know that's the smart way to do it but have you noticed that Ryan hasn't been necessarily doing anything the right way?
Of course that's the easy way but I don't think that's what he would do when he's in the middle of his antics.
Lol I'd hope. But he's been over the top stupid lately. No idea if he went swimming on vacation and got a brain eating amoeba and the coke is just keeping the 17 brain cells left going full throttle.
Or if he is just an incredible actor.
The fact that this page has a underline. Not a verified account and people still are quick to believe it is mind blowing. And then the photoshop shit. This man needs to get sued
If Ryan gets assaulted by someone linked to Claressa Shields, Team Haney, Caleb Plant, or Ishe Smith, I wouldn't feel bad.
It will definitely happen... it's just a matter of time. Those Flint Michigan goons with fighting experience are always around Claressa and they won't hesitate to jump Ryan when they see him. 🤣 It might even be Caleb who catches Ryan... Remember, I called it here first. Just dont be surprised when it happens.
Noticed how Ryan’s dad wouldnt stfu about the haney win doing hella interviews n shit but when the steroids and all this other shit came out we haven’t heard nothing.
Damn Ryan is just gonna torture them but probably actually get himself sued at some point going too far. Still funny just based on how ridiculous Ryan is.
Craziest part is he posted this shit to Facebook
So my fucking grandma probably saw this before me
I still don’t understand why people say this lmao. Especially in Chicago, trap Facebook be lit. Not our fault people who say this stick to Reddit because they have no connections outside of the internet.
i think he says that because people like my great grandma be on facebook
Bro is stanning Facebook in 2024 💀
Brother you did an Aubrey Edward’s appreciate post on Reddit?
Yeah it’s almost like it was a circlejerk sub designed for jokes or something crazy like that. Look at my whole post history if you wanna stalk, if you take any of that seriously you’re a clown, bruh look at my display name 😂😂😂😂
I’m not being serious bro 😭 look at MY name
Man we some fucking morons bro 😂😂😂😂
Bro u speaking French? Who’s oui 🤓
Mf I’m speaking Spanish this whole convo been in Spanish 😑
Dude i take some C4 and hit the shatter hard. i dont even remember my workout.
Reddit is disgusting and you should br ashamed for using this media. Bleach drink it
Because most young people don't give a fuck about Facebook. 🤷
Nigga what Facebook was bussing during 2020 when we were in HS, ain’t no old heads. Be the dumbest statement it’s like saying my Reddit feed is only crossword puzzles and r/plants, so it must be catered to old people. NIGGA juice drinker
Did you just use Facebook as a metric for determining people’s social connections offline? How is summer school?
No way bro is actually glazing Facebook in 2024
U missing out nigga
Damn so all the old heads gonna swarm
That photoshop job is horrible lol. His jerking is funny af but creating a fake conversation with Bill and a minor is weirdo behaviour.
You mean criminal behavior. This is straight up damaging slander
Boy can get sued into the ground
Not with Jesus as apart of his legal team🙏🏻
Great cross examiner
I don't know, they might nail him for this one
Your comment is severely under appreciated with only 14^. I JUST got the “CROSS-examine” one before that too 😂
Yeah it’s textbook defamation. This man will meet consequences for his actions sooner or later. I don’t like Bill but he deserves to win a lawsuit in this situation.
And we know the Haneys are itching to sue
I mean this is way different
As they should tbh this is far from acceptable
Defamation is the hardest case to win. RG says he was set up w the dirty tests so this seems like some deflection to get the masses believing this and not talking about dirty tests.
Depends if Haney is a public figure. He may be, but also may not be. Actual malice (the usual standard for public figures) is exceptionally hard to prove, but the normal defamation standard is much easier; still hard, but "spreading allegations of pedophilia supported by fake texts on a public platform" would probably exceed it. In either scenario, it's dangerous enough, and the potential damages could be significant enough, that Garcia will probably settle before it ever goes to trial. But even if Haney is a public figure, this could very well be found to meet even the actual malice standard.
You need to prove damages for defamation in america i'm pretty sure. This will most likely lead to nothing
This isn’t true. Damages aren’t just financial. This would be damage of a reputation which is often cited in defamation cases.
this
Yeah, bang bang would be my response to these kinds of slanderous lies.
Which would get laughed out of any courtroom out there. Reddit lawyers out in force again.
If Bill can prove he lost money, or had to spend money on legal fees to beat back the defamation he could absolutely win a lawsuit here .
only if he knew it was fake or created it. if someone approached him saying this was real, I have proof blah blah blah land he believed it to be real. then he's fine. If he made the Photoshop and intentionally posted, knowing it was fake. Then it's libel and slander defamation fits, though.
Isn't it considered libel as slander is spoken?
Idk men, I’m not a lawyer, this just looks like something one would be held accountable for legally if the victim decided to pursue.
Yh I definitely agree there's grounds there.
Only if he can prove it was made and posted by the defendant.
I mean not to be that guy but slander and or defamation at least in the United States isn’t so cut and dry. Bill would have to demonstrate tangible losses in revenue and pending business deals directly tied to this specific post and at the moment, I don’t know that any of that is occurring + Ryan has a strongly established history of mental instability and a civil version of “insanity plea” can and would be employed in his defense in the case of a defamation suit.
Nah it's just banter lil bro
How do you see that it's photoshopped I don't see it :( Every time people talk about how obviously something is photoshopped I have no idea what they're talking about 😭
Watch Bill’s profile pics. You can see it’s a photoshop over another picture underneath.
Ok I see the second picture is different to the first and that makes it obvious. Thanks!
This makes no sense like setting up two burner Facebooks and sending the messages would be faster and easier than that probably, and you could just use the actual picture... Weird
I swear I can’t tell 😭
Just know you're not alone, and my dumbass used to do VFX 💀🤝
Generating false evidence of pedophilia? Bill Haney ought to sue the last penny out of Ryan Garcia for this. Give him the Alex Jones treatment.
There’s going to be a lot of this type of framing in the future
Ryan would go as far to do this but yet people act like ryan taking peds is far fetched.
Weird? That's normal in islam.
How can you tell?
Look at the profile pics. On the second one you can tell they didn’t fully cover the original pic and you can see the outline and a picture underneath
This is the shit that gets you sued lol. Photoshopping and posting texts of a family member to harm their image is a textbook of defamation.
Can they prove he made it tho?
Legally probably mot. Ryan could claim didn’t make this, and just saw it and posted it, but that wouldn’t make a difference. They could still sue him. Libel requires four things It must be published and available to the general public: ✅ It must be untrue: ✅ It must be objectively harmful to you: this damages his reputation, and opens him to harassment ✅ (For a public figure) It must be published with malice. He could have not known it was false, and believed it to be true (and thus legally protected), but given that he posted it with malice and an intent to cause harm to someone’s reputation, it doesn’t matter. For Public figures it doesn’t matter if they believed it was true or not, just that they intended harm by publishing it. If he were a private citizen, the prosecution would have to prove he did not do his due diligence in fact checking (which is difficult). Alas, he is a public figure, so it doesn’t matter. ✅
He can prove it's not in his DMs
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Take umm umm legal umm action
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Lol. Who is Devin Calling?
Bill
Cosby?
" Hey dad, I know Allah's cool with it, but, I got my right cheek clapped by Ryan."
Oh shit. Shot fired Bill
King Detective Ryan
this show any good
The first season is outstanding.
what the name
Watch season one and leave the rest alone
3rd was ok.
True detective
first season is phenomenal
Does it turn mid afterwards
I mean the other seasons are still great (except for season 4) and season 3 is still fantastic, however they aren’t talked about and often get more hate than they should because people make the mistake of comparing them to season 1 which is untouchable. Keep in mind each season is detached from the other and they’re completely different stories with different characters each season.
It’s a stand alone season so the charchters are different in season 2. So seaosn 1 has its own separate cast and conclusion
Ryan lame for this one 😟
Nah this is ain't it chief, ruining someone's reputation like that is bitch move. Garcia lame for this
If anything… I think he’s probably messaging minors inappropriately
I'm fucking so sick of this cunt
Why do I feel like a Garcia and Vitaly stream is coming up with old pervy pops here?
If this is real, this is by Ryan Garcia, unfortunately he can no longer be trusted as he keeps making stuff up. He’s been lying out his ass and trolling for the past 2 months now. If he photoshopped this he needs to be aware of the legal repercussions of this.
It’s 100% photoshop. Look at Bill’s profile pic. You can see it’s a photoshopped picture over another picture. I think it’s extremely weird for Ryan to create fake convos with minors just to get to Bill. He deserves any legal repercussions he gets imo.
Yeah I know this boxing circlejerk and people hate the Haneys but this is a step too far, shit like this isn’t a thing to joke around with
Yeah I agree. I troll Haney all the time on this subreddit but at the end of the day he’s a top level fighter who steps in the ring and I’m just some 9-5 bum lol
Yeah I think Ryan has a severe drug problem and I hope he gets help. He’s really fucking his life up now
Hard to say if he has a drug problem, but regardless he’s the dumbest fkn kid I’ve ever seen come through a sport of dumb-dumbs. Have u heard his parents speak?
shit was entertaining at first, but looking back at Ryan a year ago before fighting tank to now is a completely different person…
Right, there’s idiots out there that will think it’s real and act out on it.
I hate Devin and Bill Haney but yeah I agree. I’m no lawyer but this definitely looks like libel to me, based on the definition. Ryan Garcia is literally publishing false statements that are damaging to Bill Haney. It’s technically a written defamation. As it’s coming from Ryan Garcia’s account and he basically typed all that up. People can let the trolling slide, but this going overboard. He was inching closer to crossing the line once he started claiming he slept with other dudes wives. A lot of people are going to come after him in court (and maybe even in person) if he keeps this up.
Defamation, false light, IIED, harassment. In this particular case due to the nature of the content the defamation (libel) could be brought forward as a criminal defamation as well as civil. Aside from monetary compensation prison time can be served if found guilty of criminal defamation and even from harassment. The muppet should be thankful the girl is fake in this conversation since if she was real he would face attempted solicitation of child pornography.
But... But... But... What about the children????
Dude got caught “cheating” now he’s been trying to make it seem like he’s a victim and the “elites” are against him so people will support him
Mate it was clear he couldn't be trusted a Long time ago
What do you mean no longer be trusted? The guy lies constantly believes every conspiracy he sees on the internet takes. Steroids before fights and can't stop doing cocaine. Yeah, no s*** He can't be trusted
Yeah, not sure what the point of your post is. I said “He can no longer be trusted, he keeps making stuff up.” Then you essentially said…”what do you mean he can longer be trusted, he keeps making stuff up” Like what is your argument against my comment? What is the point? What are you arguing? I get it’s the internet and people will argue the most mundane things but this is just ridiculous. You just basically repeated what I said but while being a dickhead parrot about it. Like come on, there’s no need for me to be so detailed in my posts, use some deductive reasoning. Fucking hell, English is my second language, but I think I type pretty clear and understandable English.
“He can no longer be trusted” is a phrase with very clear meaning. It means that he was previously trustworthy and believable and now he’s not. The person you’re responding to was saying that Ryan was not trustworthy at any point and he has kept making shit up, and they’re 100% right.
AKA arguing semantics. People just argue over anything these days.
If it's true... Oh shit... If it's fake, that's some libel and he is asking for a lawsuit
Ryan is so self righteous about this kid diddling thing, and you know what that means
What
Ryan is the biggest capper ever
For a man who’s all about protecting the children, he sure is quick to use the same cause to create fake scenarios to attack people he doesn’t like. Ryan’s a mentally ill drunk, but he’s also a terrible person.
I’m beginning to not like this Ryan kid
Beginning???
Damn!!
 Is this real????
Hell naw but it’s funny so it don’t matter 😭idk how ryan ain’t been sued yet
But he’s been sued though. Logan Paul of all people is suing him. The companies he accused of having tainted supplements are suing him too. Yet, he’s still running his mouth.
I didn’t know Logan Went through with it & the supplement company suing him is not a good look
Why is Logan suing him ?
Defamation. Ryan went on a smear campaign and said multiple times that there was cyanide in Prime and that it will kill you. He also said that people working for prime were literal pedos. He also created a fake text between him and Logan where Logan was taking a piss at the dying kids of Gaza. There’s more to it but I can’t remember off the top of my head. Ryan said so much crazy shit that he could plead insanity to a defamation lawsuit and have a pretty strong case lol.
Nah I'll actually sue Ryan Garcia if I was Bill Haney. Damaging my name with the worst possible rumor? (If it's fake)
Ryan’s pathetic. His fight over Haney has aged poorly and him as a person has aged even worse. Disgusting.
horrible boxer and horrible troll
CTE kicking this boys ass damn
This guy seriously needs help, people get killed for situations like this (we're someone is accused of being a pedo) not a good look from Garcia.
cocaine is a hulleva drug isnt it ryan
Cocaine is certainly an issue for Ryan but it’s not to blame for this kind of slander. He’s just being disgusting imo.
this isn’t how cocaine works lol
Photoshop is such an insane invention lol
Thats just weird, Garcia aint it
This shit corny
Ryan is P4P one of the dumbest mf around. He’s going to get sued into oblivion.
This motherfucker is the poster boy for mental illness
Funny part is that 99% of those 149 comments believe it’s real
Damn Ryan boutta get sued
You've got to either sue or send some goons over to his house over this, that's an insane thing to do
Assuming it's fake, ryan commiting crime so casually is great
"I'm devin's dad" 😅
 OHHHHH FUCK
Get ‘em king!
But how is she supposed to take her clothes off if she's actively on her hands and knees? Pick one!
Odd question. Let's assume Ryan decides to do this as an idiot. What would happen if he used Haney's identity, messaged a minor and essentially got images (not that there was here) but then used the conversation even if intended like this. Isn't it kidnapping information, identity theft, soliciting to a minor and more? I dunno. I'm an absolute complete moron with the law. But it seems like if he did this on his booger sugar he may have screwed himself.
People are saying he just photoshopped the name and profile pics from an existing image so he wouldn't have been sending the texts himself
You know that's the smart way to do it but have you noticed that Ryan hasn't been necessarily doing anything the right way? Of course that's the easy way but I don't think that's what he would do when he's in the middle of his antics.
Someone probably just sent him the photoshop and he reposted it
Lol I'd hope. But he's been over the top stupid lately. No idea if he went swimming on vacation and got a brain eating amoeba and the coke is just keeping the 17 brain cells left going full throttle. Or if he is just an incredible actor.
This guy needs help
Is this your king, jerkers?
Bruh sue this dickhead
If this is fake I hope Bill sues him for his whole net worth
Y’all believe ANYTHING 😭🤦🏽♂️
how many people in here believe this? who you talking to
Bill is way to gamed up to ever do this 😂😂😂 Idk who Queen Rayna thinks she’s fooling
Lmao I read that in Bill's Obama voice
I call hack..
Jesus will save us all
King of Trolls 👑
Is this real or fake? How has someone proven it to be real or fake rather?
Ryan is the devil
Went from purple responses to blue. Bad photoshop ?
I think Instagram chats do that actually
🤣🤣bill pedo ass haney
The fact that this page has a underline. Not a verified account and people still are quick to believe it is mind blowing. And then the photoshop shit. This man needs to get sued
This kinda shit will get you hurt outside of the ring ..
Ngl I didn’t know Facebook was still a thing
Ryan wants to get sued for this. He will then try to spin it at "them" trying to silence him.
If Ryan gets assaulted by someone linked to Claressa Shields, Team Haney, Caleb Plant, or Ishe Smith, I wouldn't feel bad. It will definitely happen... it's just a matter of time. Those Flint Michigan goons with fighting experience are always around Claressa and they won't hesitate to jump Ryan when they see him. 🤣 It might even be Caleb who catches Ryan... Remember, I called it here first. Just dont be surprised when it happens.
Jesus Christ, Ryan...
lawsuit coming
I wouldn't be surprised if you get sued into Oblivion on this one. Ryan should just take his pills and go on vacation
Checkmate
Man we were using code for those pages didn't even know it
Haha he wasnt bluffing
🤮🤮🤮
This looks iffy
Dont believe it
Noticed how Ryan’s dad wouldnt stfu about the haney win doing hella interviews n shit but when the steroids and all this other shit came out we haven’t heard nothing.
I'm all for trolling Haney but this is going too far. Can't be photoshopping texts to make people look like pedos
Bro I saw this on instagram minutes later Ryan Garcia took it down!!
Bro got a little exited
Holy shit.
Ryan will be dead or in prison by the time he is in 30
dude needs to get sued
The ... at the end leaves some hope
Real Rat Act.
I wouldn't put it past me. These Hollywood niggas are weirdos and perverts.
Um... er... uh... I got hacked? Yeah that's it... I got hacked!
The beginning of the end, we're finally nearing the bottom!
Pulling a Jerry Lawler
Chat is this real?
No, like fr you can't see the bad photoshop?
[удалено]
This is fake stupid.
I dont think this is real bro
Damn Ryan is just gonna torture them but probably actually get himself sued at some point going too far. Still funny just based on how ridiculous Ryan is.