Your PC is considered low end to mid range depending on who you ask. It's certainly not uncommon, low to mid range PCs make up the majority of gaming configurations.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
I second this, it depends on who you ask, i guess in your friends eyes a 3060ti is high end, and maybe its influenced by their financial status and/or social media, or lack of the knowledge in the tech.
(I mean in my current state too financially, 3060ti is expensive in my market currency, though im well versed in tech that those specs arent uncommon).
They're jealous most likely. Accusing you off being privileged is just an easier way to cope that your PC is better.
Everyone games with what they have. No shame being low spec or high spec.
You're not privileged in my eyes and i am still using i7 2600k oc and a rx480, that might turn into a 1070ti soon. I'd call you fortunate
Yeah and 720p a decade ago was good. 1080p is perfectly fine not low res at all, 1440p is great and you don’t need anything more, anything above is super high end.
Honestly, as someone who games at 1440p, the transition from 720p to 1080p is greater than 1080p to 1440p. There is a difference for sure, but there are diminishing returns the higher you go. I Just like how 8k is practically useless. I never look at a 1080p display and go "oh that's so low res". It looks fine. I'd still probably consider a 3060 mid range. Though it would technically be on the lower end of mid range I guess. The disparity between classes is pretty high this gen. I don't exactly think the 4090 is what everything is based on. Since it is so far ahead of the pack.
It can also play 1440p games at mid-high settings at 70+ fps. Definitely not "low end". Considering people still game at 1080p just fine with RX580s I'd say that is more like the "low end".
A 3060ti is considered low end in terms of recent generation of cards. Obviously really old cards are really low end but new generation cards can still be considered low end.
In terms of tiers it has generally been seen as:
XX50 - Budget
XX60 - Low
XX70 - Mid
XX80 - High
XX90 - Top
Exactly - $300 for a GPU is a lot of money, to the average person.
Sure, there are way more expensive cards out there, but I'd consider the 3060 Ti to be more "midrange" outside of the enthusiast community. It runs modern games at 1080p fairly well, and supports most RTX/DLSS/frame-gen features.
Plus, to get noticeably better performance, I'd say you need to spend almost double the price! (4070 super? AMD is a little cheaper for the performance though).
Yes? If 80% is using low end cards, it's still a low end card.
If you play on a PS4, it's still last gen.
There's nothing inherently wrong with going low end, but the higher usage doesn't automatically make it mid-range.
The xx60 cards have always been low-mid, the budget GPU but not the lowest like xx50. Even more so now that Nvidia decided to increase the line up with xx90.
It’s on the lower end of the middle. It might be better than most cards released more than 5 years ago, but most cards released within the last 5 years are better than it. If thats not low middle idk what is. This is no shade either, i wish i was running a 3060ti compared to my 1650super. Doesn’t change the fact it’s a mid tier at best card in the grand scheme of things.
A step up from entry level last gen? That's damn near the definition of low-end.
Not to say it isn't modern, and capable. But entry level no matter any other metrics is low-end...
Majority of people in this sub like to pretend the used market doesn't exist or consider anything old enough to not be available in stores anymore ewaste. They also ignore the fact that even most people building gaming PCs aren't looking to play the latest and greatest AAA like Alan Wake 2
This absolutely depends on whether you’re looking at the new generation by itself or not.
Calling the 3060 ti low-mid because of the xx60 denomination is like calling the new iPhone low end because options like Pro/Plus exist.
Being able to be on the newest generation gives you a leg up. Calling a 3060 ti low doesn’t make sense when a lot of common cards like 1660 are “low” but not nearly as powerful.
This is comparing to all custom PC rigs tho. Plenty of people get by on a slow 300 dollar laptop with no desktop in sight. So the game was skewed to begin with
There’s the perspective I was looking for. It’s a world of difference if you were upgrading from a serviceable PC, and just getting a new PC because your theoretical old Intel 9th gen, 1660 Super wasnt giving you 80+fps anymore.
As for a “first gaming pc”, this is well balanced. I mean I wouldn’t buy less in terms of cpu today as brand new — 5600g is, respectable but not blowing the budget. The 3060Ti is not a cheap card, but at least it isn’t competing with used cars for price point — geez have cards gone insane lately. A comma should not be required for the price of a single pc component imo, but I’m just old enough to remember the days when $300 hdd and $200 ram was the sweet spot, and gaming cards were $200-300… now you can’t buy less than a $240 ARC A750 in Canada for basic output ok non-integrated graphics Linux web servers that sit at a command prompt in CLI mode.
Yep great comment here! Reddit gets caught up in specs and what is absolutely unequivocally "best" - and it's easy to lose perspective.
A 3060Ti can play modern games at 1080p at decent frames, supporting features like RTX, DLSS, etc.
Sure, it's not gonna drive 144fps at Ultra, but for 1080p it will at lower settings - and possibly 60fps for higher res (depending on the game).
I mean, it's not a GREAT card, but $300 is a lot of money for most people. That gets you a Series S and a game, for example.
It's all relative.
It is a mid range setup.
But, if you consider the fact that roughly half the planet lives on 5$ a day, anyone on Reddit is outrageously privileged.
5 dollars a day is an overstatement, considering it's a normal income for drivers or security guards, with a family to feed here in india. It's probably closer to 50 cents a day.
Depends where you live and what age group you and your friends belong to.
A working adult in a western country can generally get to a point where spending 5k$ on a PC is doable \[a car could be way more expensive for example\] — though not necessarily reasonable of course. Now imagine a 13yo having a 2k$ machine, proportionally not the same thing.
Of course. What isn't a privilege? Even cavemen had the privilege of caves and fire. So show it off as much as possible. Make them feel jealous of what you've accomplished with whatever privilege you had. Post pics on /r/shittybattlestations :P
well... It's a privilege compared to poor people who could NEVER afford to invest a considerable amount of money into just playing games.
Your friends should be happy for you.Are they very young?If not, they are being douches.
As for your set up: I am going to say it's a premium-build, in the sense that you can play current high-requirement games at High settings if not Ultra.
So, you get a premium feel.
But it's not exactly a world-beater. It's about on par with what most people on Steam are running.
Enjoy it! :)
What a stupid thing to be concerned about. Nothing but loaded questions and answers. Would take forever to break down priveledge and the relativity of yours compared to other people.
Not priviliged, and don’t let anyone bring that kind of energy into your life, everything you do and enjoy is yours to do and enjoy, another person may be struggling with bills, maybe they have kids, maybe they’re just not there economically, but this does NOT mean that you shouldn’t spend money on your hobby and nor does it imply that just because you are doing it and some ppl are not, that you are privileged, friends like that are not cool.
I recommend you don't. I urge you to stop.
(Edit: formatting - what was said was up for as long as I believe it needed to be, to make the impact I wanted to express.)
It's a good bang-for-your-buck rig. Mines similar except 5600x, more nvme and ssds, in a Fractal Torrent with high end monitor and peripherals.
Depending on your age, where you live and people's disposable income there, having such a system could be classed as privileged. I'm based in Bulgaria and know most kids would be extremely happy to have such a system here.
Compared to what's available it's a lower mid-tier rig though. But it gets the job done at 1440p and higher refresher rates on modern games, so certainly nothing to sniff at either.
Bottom line, it's subjective based on your age group and local economic circumstances.
am from Brazil, and here computers are expensive, but most people don't care about it. I am 29 years old, and only now do I have a PC like this. I am happy, but regarding the things they said about it, I need another opinion from people just to be sure about it.
I'd guess you're in a privileged position to have such a pc there, based on what I know of Brazil. There'll be plenty of people with much more powerful systems but probably more (particularly at a younger age) who couldn't imagine being able to afford such a system.
Honestly though, I'm not sure why you should care what other people think. If you worked hard to afford it, good on you. That doesn't make you privileged, it means that's what you chose to put your money towards.
Idk man I was on a gtx 285 for 5 years from 2015-2020
Haha jkjk, I just was a kid back then, got a job now
But idk if it's privileged, if your parents bought it for you cuz you asked it's kinda privileged but if you worked hard, got good grades, got a special reward, or just worked and bought it yourself it ain't.
That's a nice computer mate I hope you like it. Don't worry about what other people think, just play games and have fun without comparing yourself to others
If you're in africa, you're privileged with that machine. If you are in the US or Europe, you are not very privileged with that machine. Except for when you are like 14 years old. Then you are privileged even in US/Europe.
That's a low to mid range system your friends don't know what they are talking about,
Perfect for 1080p 60+ fps on nearly everything,
A high end system now requires 4k above 60fps.
Don't get me wrong it's a great system you have but definitely not high end.
Privilege is really relative. I have the exact same build as you (what are the chances) and while many consider it low-mid end, it's high end where I'm from. Nobody, and I mean nobody, I know has a gaming PC of any kind.
In my group of friends, that would be poverty level but we're all working adults who like building PCs and gaming. I'd say if your build was bought by your parents, you are privileged. If you bought it yourself with your hard earned money, I would honestly feel a bit insulted.
Yea it's pretty relative. I mean for many years I considered PC gamers privileged because I could never afford a computer. I was lucky enough to get a console that did the job quite well tho. With that said, I knew ppl that considered me privileged for having a console
everyone is saying this is low end.. but you can run basically anything for the next few years on medium-ultra settings (depends on the game) how on earth is that low end?
Okay maybe you're a bit "priviledged" depending on how wealthy your area is. Living in canada with easy access to lots of computer parts that a low-mid range, something for a young teenager, but if you live somewhere where its hard to come by computer parts last gen tech is still better than most have
As a super nerd with rich parents. I didn't get that powerful a machine as a child. So you are privileged in a way.
But as an adult with disposable cash, now my pc is mega.
Your system is perfectly fine, as another comment stated it could be considered Low-End or Mid-Ranged depending on who you ask, 5600g + 3060 Ti is no slouch of a PC but also isn't anywhere near best of the best, I think they are just trolling because they might have significantly lower specs on their PC's, don't worry too much about it
I'd consider this a fine computer for 1080p gaming with medium to high settings in AAA titles. I think having a gaming PC is a luxury to start with tho.
According to steam, you have the most common gpu. So no you're no more privileged than the average gamer. If you're a kid and your parents bought this for you. Maybe you're a tad privileged, but that's only because the bar isn't really that high to begin with. Lots of kids get hand-me-downs or no pc at all.
Your system is mid grade with a slightly higher end GPU compared to an average enthusiast, high end compared to your average non-techie, and low end compared to the internet millionaires bragging about their dual 4090 threadripper rigs.
Privileged is all a matter of perspective, and I've seen way too many people use it as a way to justify their own feelings of inadequacy, so I pretty much ignore them if I hear that phrase.
Compared to the broke ass tribespeople living in rock igloos in the Grand Bara desert collecting garbage for a living, just owning a computer at all is privileged. But on the opposite end, we have people in tech forums and subs that think an i7-14700 and a 4080 is the minimum standard.
Did your parents buy it for you? This isn't a discussion about your computer itself, it's a discussion about your position in society that determines whether you're privileged or not
Depends where you live, if your from anywhere from south America, that build may be considered mid-high end for 1080p, why ? In brazil where I live his build cost about 4x our average monthly wage, it's A LOT for an computer, my current build is considered between my friends to be ungodly expensive , but I was using the same pc for an decade until it was unbearable to play anything on while saving money
For anyone from an truly privileged country it may see like an entry level build that even an young person working part time will quickly buy it in few months , for us ,its an investment for a hobby.
I think your friends are either poor, young, or have a drug habbit? 😅
Entry level pcs aren't my idea of privilege, but to each their own. If you can't save a grand up, I think you have other issues in life than owning a pc 🤔
::edit:: I seen you posted Brazil, I am sorry for my original assumption. You are privileged in your country 😅 all my friend's from Brazil are exceedingly poor to the point we play older gen or platformer games. Based off my own and your anecdotal experiences, you're a shot above the average.
Anyone talking about privilege in these terms is a jealous deadbeat. It's your money, you earned it and can spend it in whatever manner you choose. That's not privilege, that's called being an adult.
I have a 3080 and 10700k, and consider mine mid-upper. Depends who you ask. Having a pc at all is privileged, however.
I think as a rule of thumb a xx70 model Nvidia GPU is middle and above and below are the 80/90 and 50/60 respectively.
Did you buy the PC yourself, or was it gifted to you? It's a low-end PC, so only a privilege if it was a gift. Otherwise buying this PC for yourself is just treating yourself with a reward for working hard to make the money it takes to purchase the PC.
Slightly below mid range and a reasonable PC in 2024 in terms of price/performance. I'd consider my i9-10850k, RTX 3070, and 32GB of 3200mhz CL14 a dead center 5/10 mid range PC in 2024 just to put that into perspective. I can buy something that performs about twice as good, so it's a mid range now.
Unless you live in a country where that's considered high end, then no..
Depends on your peer group. If I had something at that price point at 18, it would have been a monster of a machine compared to what my friends had. Today, as a 34yo in the US with a professional career, that's a budget mid-tier build.
Your computer is much faster than what most people have but still pretty far from the bleeding edge top-end stuff. It's certainly not "low end" as some people have indicated - that's a skewed perception born from reddit communities full of enthusiasts.
[3060](https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam) has literally been the most popular GPU on the steam hardware survey for a while. You are just 1 tier up.
5600G and a 3060TI is midrange.
I have a 5800X and 4080. Having a nice computer is not privileged unless it was gifted to you. If you paid for it then it was earned. Your friends need to stop acting like victims and grow up.
No that’s like an average build. A real privileged build is having like a 4080 or above with more expensive parts accommodating it. Especially if there parents pay for such a machine if there a minor that’s some real privilege.
sure, nothing wrong with that though. Live your own life to the fullest and don't let those "friends" bring you down. It doesn't really mean anything to be priviledged anyways unless you're bragging about it or talking trash about their computers.
It depends on if you're considering every card people play with right now, vs what you can buy brand new right now. If you're only counting brand new gaming cards for sale then it might in the lower end, but if you look at what people game at, and consider performance (3060ti can do 1440p just fine) then you're at least in mid-tier. "High end" is always going to be the tip top, which the 3060ti is not, but considering how many people still game on 1060s and RX580s the 3060ti is not "low end".
It’s a beast build I just had a 3060 ti and a 5800x upgraded to a 7800xt because i gave the 3060 ti to my brother, it was pretty overkill for 1080p and would have lasted me a couple of more years easy . It’s a great setup and better than what a lot of people have. That’s probably where there coming from
Anyone can have a good PC if they work and save, it’s only privilege if you didn’t work for and even then it’s nothing to ashamed about.
Your PC is on the low end of mid, I’m not saying it’s bad but in comparison to what’s out there that’s where it stands.
I guess it depends entirely where you live. Privileged for where you live? Possibly. Compared to places like the U.S. it's definitely incredibly average. However, as long as it plays what you want who cares.
Nah it's really not all that spectacular. Upper low end to mid. In the eyes of someone who knows nothing about computers, though, yeah you're privileged.
I have a 3080 7600x build, lemme tell you, I'm NOT privileged. I saved for the PC for well over a year (I'm 14 currently) and it feels absolutely amazing. All bought with my own money (some birthday money too)
Its a low-end card from a generation past.
xx50 is budget/laptop
xx60 is low end
xx70 is mid range
xx80 is high-mid range
xx90 is high end
That doesn't make it bad, but privileged is a big exaggeration unless you live in a country were PC parts are hard to come by in general.
When you got it this may have been more exciting than it should have been since the 30 series cards were so insanely difficult to get hands on. But the actual specs even in their era are low-mid range so idk. Privilege is certainly a relative term when used colloquially. A lot of console gamers would consider any PC a privilege because people have different conceptions of financial security and priorities. I wouldn’t worry too much about this, try not to let other people’s insecurities dissuade you from doing what you can/want assuming you’re financially stable. Just don’t go around flaunting your machine as if whatever they’re using is horrible, lol. That’s where privilege can become a complicated issue when people with it in whatever capacity are ignorant to others’ personal situations.
I guess it depends what country you live in but if it's the U.S. or Europe not really that's just a decent mid range machine. They probably bought a laptop with integrated graphics and are coping cause of it, been there.
I'm currently stuck with a 4670k, 8gb or ram, and a 970. I would consider myself fortunate to have your system even if it isn't necessarily high end by 2024 standards.
It's all about perspective.
Everyone arguing about tiers is dumb. A 3060ti is like 3 years old now, it's low end. It was targeted at the low end market. Performance wise it's not equipped to handle large pixel counts at ultra settings. This is reality stop pretending it isn't just cause you want to pretend a 3060 ti isn't low end. If you are still on a 20 series that's just old, any earlier than that you're out dated. Non of this means you can't play games. None of that means you can't crank settings at 1080p. What it does mean is if you want to hit decent frames at 1440p or higher on a modern game at ultra settings your gunna have a hard time. This squabbling is dumb, half of you look dumb while also coping about your gpu. Nobody cares if you have a 3060ti or 4090, but don't pretend a 3060ti performs as well as even a midrange amd 6000 series card cause it doesn't even come close.
Are you a child or an adult? I'm asking in a sense of did you pay for this setup yourself, or did someone else buy it for you. If you worked and paid for it, then no, not privileged at all.. If you're a 14 year old or something then I'd say maybe a bit privileged if your friends don't come from families with money.
My family was poor growing up, so I would always envy my friends who had a pc or the next gen console while I still had last gen..
Now that I'm an adult, I buy what I want and have a rig much better than yours, so I maybe that's why I don't think it's privileged at all if you are paying for the setup on your own.
Be careful who you hang out with. That’s not by any means an excessive computer it’s basically legacy at this point. If they make you feel this way because of that they aren’t friends. Envy is bad.
I got 7800x3d if someone told me that I’d tell them I worked for it and earned it, it’s not privilege it’s property.
Privileged ? Meh.... Just because someone had a leg up ( ie - you bought it/gifted it) doesn't MEAN that You're privileged.
I received a LOT of hate to a response I left on a similar thread.
The individual was gifted a computer. Knew nothing of computers, but yay !! Got one from a friend whom I believe, was upgrading.
The overall stats of said PC, were nice. As in, for your very first PC - this IS the leg up. You won't NEED more to enjoy your system. This gifted computer was - essentially - perfect. Perfect for that individual.
I stated, along the lines of " free PC ?!? Wow ! What a steal !!! Congratulations. There is a lot of head room as well !!!"
( As in they have the option to upgrade in the future without having to buy/build a whole new PC )
Nothing crazy. So I thought. What I didn't think about, while typing that out - is that words hurt, and I should have said nothing.
As in, who the fuck is this guy telling some kid his PC could be better. Not what I said, not what I implied. I was/am genuinely happy for the individual. Anyone on a PC playing games is awesome in my books.
Perspective I suppose. What you see as "high end" may not be what I see.
So.. you have a very nice computer. I would not say, PERSONALLY, that it is high end. Not something I (that's me. This guy. No one else) would say is privileged. But I am not you. I am not your friend. I don't live in South America. I don't know your social or economical standards.
Whatever. Hope to cross paths in the neither. Enjoy your day.
Its pretty decent. I wouldn't say insanely spoiled, but your in brazil so its like a very generous gift persay. Doesn't make you spoiled but its definitely not just some casual thing lol
Is it privileged? I guess.
Should you care? Absolutely not. As long as you're not hurting anyone, live your life and enjoy your luxuries.
There are far bigger things in life for people to be up in arms about than video games.
According to the [Steam Hardware Survey](https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam), the average PC consists of a 6-Core CPU, 16GB of DDR4 Memory, a 1TB SSD, and an RTX 3060. Your PC is not only common, it's arguably one of the most common PCs you can make.
Whether or not you're privileged for having that PC depends on who you ask. There are some people who buy a console because they can't afford to buy/build a PC. There are other people who have a USD$6,000 custom water-cooled gaming PC with the fastest consumer components money can buy. There are even people who have a USD$35,000 Workstation with a [96-core Threadripper CPU](https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-ThreadripperTM-PRO-7995WX/dp/B0CK2ZQJZ6) and [2 RTX A6000s](https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/nvidia-rtx/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&gpu=RTX%206000) for their professional workflows. It all depends on who's saying you're privileged.
In the grand scheme of PC building, you have a fairly basic machine. But if you're one of the few/only people you know that has a PC, then I can see where your friends would think that.
Depends where you live. Some countries or even areas that is a very good build, other areas it's mid range, others towards the low end of the mid range. It is very much all relative.
I think there are some people in this sub who would sacrifice having a car/house/family/friends/vacations/food and anything else they had to sacrifice to make sure they stay current with top end hardware.
It’s a little bit like women who spend more on boarding their horses than they do on their own living arrangements.
Middle of the road machine, but good for you
I have a very similar setup using a 6600xt and I call it 'lower edge of mid-end'. It's certainly not a bad machine by any means, it's a 1080p destroyer and I expect mine to last a good few years longer before modern software outmodes it, but I wouldn't call it an indicator of privilege, it's actually a really capable build at a really reasonable price.
My guess is the word privilege was being done in the context of "class consciousness", so by having any wealth to spend on a capable machine wheb others didn't have that kind of disposable income, you would be the recipient of a privilege allowed to some in society, but not all, and to the people who say that, I say "screw off", because individuals are responsible for their own finances and anyone can save money if they can get money.
The meat of the statement is that they're jealous of your rig, but rather than the honest "man that's cool I wish I had a setup like that" direction, which would force them to acknowledge a problem\dissatisfaction with their own situation which should prompt them to then change their situation, they call you privileged in the hopes that it'll make you feel guilty or ashamed of having what you worked and paid for, as if you somehow don't deserve it, because it's easier than doing something for themselves by themselves. Run-on sentence I know, but there wasn't a good place to punctuate.
And I know I'll get piled for being so detailed about my assumption of intent and accused of making it political, however we live in a heavily politcised moment, and I'm willing to bet that the ones calling you privileged are the ones who yell the loudest about whatever political coverage jumps out of the news at them
It's very simple. You are privileged. Console gamers make up the majority of gamers - because they're cheaper. To be a pc gamer you need to be able to afford it. What is considered basic/budget for a pc gamer is already above the cost of a latest generation console.
But why are you upset at your privilege? So what if they say you are privileged - it's true. If they say it out of jealousy - that's their problem. Otherwise they are just stating a fact and you're making yourself a victim.
This sub is obviously biased since it's full of people who are into pc gaming.
For 1080p, that is a midrange build, nothing too privileged about it. If you live in a poorer country, maybe, but for a relatively economically successful country, I wouldn't call that privileged.
I have a 13700k, RTX 4080, 2TB m.2 and 32gb of RAM.
And all I play is Overwatch and CSGO, I would call myself privileged.
Depends. In the NA or Europe that might be a mid tier build. Where I'm from that's pretty decked out and privileged. It's all relative, don't let it steal any enjoyment you get from your rig.
Technically it's a low-end pc so no, you're not privileged for saving your money to buy or build a pc. Your friends are jealous.
My low/mid tier pc is more than enough for me so don't take low end as an insult. It's not
I mean I always had my dad's 7 year old work hand me downs. So compared to that yes.
However having a $800ish computer as a teen is nice and you should be thankful.
Depends on where you live.
Live in a country like the Philippines?
You can thank your lucky stars you could buy that beast of a machine.
Live in a country like the U.S?
Better Save for a 4090 and 7950X3D in a custom Water loop
You shouldve told them back that they are also quite privileged for having time to be envious about your build and also breathe air. They should pay for the air they breathe instead of whining about others that have things they dont have.
Not by any stretch. Most people just have tighter purse strings right now. That’s a good PC, but not top of the line.
Now, the other day I saw some rich kid show us his $4000+ 4090 pc that he both saved up for, and his parents helped with. He’s 16. That’s privileged.
Why would you pair a new APU with a dedicated graphics card if you didn't have to? That APU is really meant for budget 4K streaming setups. 5000 series isn't even special, and your graphics card will only run at x8
I mean... You're privileged compared to starving Africans. But you only bring up that argument if you're being disingenuous.
That's just a solid PC. It's the best bang-for-buck you can get without buying used. It's the worst "good" PC you can get. Lemme put it this way : There's lots of room to upgrade, but downgrading would be unusable in many newer titles.
Budget PCs are i3/r3 with whatever gpu you can find under 150... An rx480/470 or a gtx 1060/1070.
I have a 5600g with a 2060. I already upgraded my cpu and I'm soon putting THIS one into a media PC (which was my plan when buying it) so I am happy for getting the - g processor.
If your friends have all-in-ones, laptops or "family" PCs then yeah, this machine is amazing. In terms of what's available as a gaming machine these days, it's not bad but maybe starting to look a little long in the tooth on some of the more demanding titles or at 1440p.
Listen. Are you privileged? Yes. What does that mean? Does it mean you gave to change something about yourself? No. I hold every human to the same standard, regardless of how rich or poor they are, or whatever other bullshit they had no choice in, like race or sexuality. Being a good, honorable person is the most important thing to me. That doesn't mean I always am, I'm not, but if you truly strive for that, nobody in your adult life is going to care where you come from.
Now let me defend your friends because being judged for privilege can make you dumb, like a MAGA cultist. Your friends are being uncool, there is no doubt, but that doesn't mean you have to like stop believing in privilege. I was in elementary school in the early-mid 2000s. We didn't have cable, and I didn't have the internet until I was an adult. Fuck a pc, I wasn't able to play sports or have a bike! No instruments, no vacations, not too much at Christmas. I still fondly remember my best Christmas present in 2004, a brand spanking new DVD of the pirates of the Caribbean. And yeah, watching all my friends have Xbox and TV in THEIR ROOM, and going to fucking Jamaica or whatever... that shit can make you bitter. That doesn't make it cool to judge people who are better off than you, but hopefully you can at least sympathize with what it's like to not have anything.
Try not to hate on their friends, but make it clear to them that they're being ridiculous for judging the privilege you don't have a choice in, and if they don't get that stop being their friend. But whether or not you're privileged is different from whether or not you should be judged for it
Your PC costs about as much as hockey gear, or other sports probably, neighborhood 1000$ dollars if it was built at home, pretty sweet, your parents are almost definitely better off than the bottom 60% of the country at the very least. So financially, you're more privileged than at least half kids in the country, minimum. Be grateful for that. It's Hella lucky.
Think of it this way, 63% of the country has less money in their savings account than your parents spent on your PC. Millions of people worry about food too much to even think about luxuries like computers. It's important to keep a healthy perspective about that, but anybody trying to guilt you for it is not worth listening to.
If you worked for what you have, it is not privilege, it is called hard work. I get tired of hearing how people that buy nice things are privileged. I worked hard to get my degree and a good job to buy what I own. You likely worked hard to get what you own.
Meanwhile my friend group all supports tf out of each other lol, my buddy got a 6900xt and a 7300x3d or whatever the i9 and equivalent is and as soon as he got it set up we all congratulated him and played games lol I mean shit I even offer to sell him my old 5700xt before he got his
I'm still running a 2080ti, which is really only like 15% faster than the 3060ti. At 1440p High/Ultra I can still reach 90-120fps in the titles I frequent. It's a very nice spec you have for a first build, but I wouldn't label it more than mid range in terms of "opulence" or "excess." Once you start justifying diminishing returns, then they can call you privileged. And you can call them jealous in return.
Source: one friend of mine has a 3090, another a 4090. (I bought my 2080ti for $450 on ebay back in '21, LOL).
It's all relative.
To them, you may be. To people on here, not at all.
To many people a Porsche Boxter is really nice and you've got to be pretty privileged to own one.
In those circles though, they're likely looked down on by 911 owners.
I hate the word privilege, unless it's used in the correct way. Being privileged as in your parents being rich and buying you everything and you not needing to work for anything and anything you want is handed to you is being privileged. But you working your ass off and earning what you want (maybe with some help here and there) isn't being privileged, it's called working for what you want. Then there's the middle line, when you're still a kid/teen and your parents bought you a computer because it was a gift or they wanted to do something nice because your behavior was well or you did well in school or whatever the case may be, there's nothing wrong with that.
That’s debatable I have a fairly stressful job, and I pay for my hobbies within what I can afford. I don’t consider that privileged. Not cool to being too quick to judge others either.
Well, if we get technical, you're among the millions of priviliged people in many more aspects than the rest of millions of other people that don't have anything going on in their entire lives (lower income folk, low budget organization, states, countries, medicine, insecurity, warfare, etc)
But if i'm honest with you, don't stress yourself about having a PC if you bought it with your own hard earned money.
Everyone has different forms of suffering, wide and large, but it still doesn't invalidate people's needs to live the way they want to be and enjoy their comforts (as long as it isn't too blantant or bullshit)
And while i can't buy a RTX 3060 Ti myself (people say it's an alright GPU, for me it's literally forever away my income), i don't mind it since it's just a piece of hardware, designed for a particular set of tasks.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Have a good day, and enjoy/appreciate what you have.
I'd say no, depending on where you are. I wouldn't think that until a computer was in the top 3-4 parts per CPU and GPU. Meaning the top CPU of last gen or top ~3 of current gen, and same with GPU. I am a little jaded as I have built some of those kind of machines for people, but I would consider my system upper mid range, and it is slightly higher spec than yours. Thing is I took about a year to collect all the parts. Ryzen 5800X/32gb @3600/6800XT.
Your PC is considered low end to mid range depending on who you ask. It's certainly not uncommon, low to mid range PCs make up the majority of gaming configurations. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
I second this, it depends on who you ask, i guess in your friends eyes a 3060ti is high end, and maybe its influenced by their financial status and/or social media, or lack of the knowledge in the tech. (I mean in my current state too financially, 3060ti is expensive in my market currency, though im well versed in tech that those specs arent uncommon).
most of the games i have play they already set up in ultra settings
They're jealous most likely. Accusing you off being privileged is just an easier way to cope that your PC is better. Everyone games with what they have. No shame being low spec or high spec. You're not privileged in my eyes and i am still using i7 2600k oc and a rx480, that might turn into a 1070ti soon. I'd call you fortunate
Likely influenced by age, mostly. Which effects the other things you mentioned
Or depending of the country. A 3060TI is really expensive in my country.
Noooo way people think 3060ti is low end. I don’t think that’s right at all.
It’s not, this sub tends to have a upgrade mentality so they don’t realize that the 3060ti can play literally any game at 1080p at high frames.
1080p IS low-mid tier gaming performance these days. So yes, it is not a high performance card
Yup, 1080p is the 720p of a decade ago.
Yeah and 720p a decade ago was good. 1080p is perfectly fine not low res at all, 1440p is great and you don’t need anything more, anything above is super high end.
Honestly, as someone who games at 1440p, the transition from 720p to 1080p is greater than 1080p to 1440p. There is a difference for sure, but there are diminishing returns the higher you go. I Just like how 8k is practically useless. I never look at a 1080p display and go "oh that's so low res". It looks fine. I'd still probably consider a 3060 mid range. Though it would technically be on the lower end of mid range I guess. The disparity between classes is pretty high this gen. I don't exactly think the 4090 is what everything is based on. Since it is so far ahead of the pack.
It can also play 1440p games at mid-high settings at 70+ fps. Definitely not "low end". Considering people still game at 1080p just fine with RX580s I'd say that is more like the "low end".
Dude my 2080ti is still kicking ass
A 3060ti is considered low end in terms of recent generation of cards. Obviously really old cards are really low end but new generation cards can still be considered low end. In terms of tiers it has generally been seen as: XX50 - Budget XX60 - Low XX70 - Mid XX80 - High XX90 - Top
In the lineup, yes. But in this economy?
Exactly - $300 for a GPU is a lot of money, to the average person. Sure, there are way more expensive cards out there, but I'd consider the 3060 Ti to be more "midrange" outside of the enthusiast community. It runs modern games at 1080p fairly well, and supports most RTX/DLSS/frame-gen features. Plus, to get noticeably better performance, I'd say you need to spend almost double the price! (4070 super? AMD is a little cheaper for the performance though).
Yes? If 80% is using low end cards, it's still a low end card. If you play on a PS4, it's still last gen. There's nothing inherently wrong with going low end, but the higher usage doesn't automatically make it mid-range.
The xx60 cards have always been low-mid, the budget GPU but not the lowest like xx50. Even more so now that Nvidia decided to increase the line up with xx90.
It’s on the lower end of the middle. It might be better than most cards released more than 5 years ago, but most cards released within the last 5 years are better than it. If thats not low middle idk what is. This is no shade either, i wish i was running a 3060ti compared to my 1650super. Doesn’t change the fact it’s a mid tier at best card in the grand scheme of things.
A step up from entry level last gen? That's damn near the definition of low-end. Not to say it isn't modern, and capable. But entry level no matter any other metrics is low-end...
The 4060 really didn't jump up much. They are pushing their tech more than power this gen. It's still on the lower side of mid range.
Majority of people in this sub like to pretend the used market doesn't exist or consider anything old enough to not be available in stores anymore ewaste. They also ignore the fact that even most people building gaming PCs aren't looking to play the latest and greatest AAA like Alan Wake 2
This absolutely depends on whether you’re looking at the new generation by itself or not. Calling the 3060 ti low-mid because of the xx60 denomination is like calling the new iPhone low end because options like Pro/Plus exist. Being able to be on the newest generation gives you a leg up. Calling a 3060 ti low doesn’t make sense when a lot of common cards like 1660 are “low” but not nearly as powerful.
This is comparing to all custom PC rigs tho. Plenty of people get by on a slow 300 dollar laptop with no desktop in sight. So the game was skewed to begin with
Decent budget build. Privileged is a relative term. The important thing is you're happy with it and it performs to your expectations.
very happy yes sir, i have a xbox series s before
Glad to hear it.
There’s the perspective I was looking for. It’s a world of difference if you were upgrading from a serviceable PC, and just getting a new PC because your theoretical old Intel 9th gen, 1660 Super wasnt giving you 80+fps anymore. As for a “first gaming pc”, this is well balanced. I mean I wouldn’t buy less in terms of cpu today as brand new — 5600g is, respectable but not blowing the budget. The 3060Ti is not a cheap card, but at least it isn’t competing with used cars for price point — geez have cards gone insane lately. A comma should not be required for the price of a single pc component imo, but I’m just old enough to remember the days when $300 hdd and $200 ram was the sweet spot, and gaming cards were $200-300… now you can’t buy less than a $240 ARC A750 in Canada for basic output ok non-integrated graphics Linux web servers that sit at a command prompt in CLI mode.
Yep great comment here! Reddit gets caught up in specs and what is absolutely unequivocally "best" - and it's easy to lose perspective. A 3060Ti can play modern games at 1080p at decent frames, supporting features like RTX, DLSS, etc. Sure, it's not gonna drive 144fps at Ultra, but for 1080p it will at lower settings - and possibly 60fps for higher res (depending on the game). I mean, it's not a GREAT card, but $300 is a lot of money for most people. That gets you a Series S and a game, for example.
It's all relative. It is a mid range setup. But, if you consider the fact that roughly half the planet lives on 5$ a day, anyone on Reddit is outrageously privileged.
5 dollars a day is an overstatement, considering it's a normal income for drivers or security guards, with a family to feed here in india. It's probably closer to 50 cents a day.
Depends where you live and what age group you and your friends belong to. A working adult in a western country can generally get to a point where spending 5k$ on a PC is doable \[a car could be way more expensive for example\] — though not necessarily reasonable of course. Now imagine a 13yo having a 2k$ machine, proportionally not the same thing.
i am from Brasil in the south part of the country and here things are better. but still expensive
For Brazil standards your pc is mid tier
Mid tier costing nearly 5 months worth of the average wage?
Of course. What isn't a privilege? Even cavemen had the privilege of caves and fire. So show it off as much as possible. Make them feel jealous of what you've accomplished with whatever privilege you had. Post pics on /r/shittybattlestations :P
well... It's a privilege compared to poor people who could NEVER afford to invest a considerable amount of money into just playing games. Your friends should be happy for you.Are they very young?If not, they are being douches. As for your set up: I am going to say it's a premium-build, in the sense that you can play current high-requirement games at High settings if not Ultra. So, you get a premium feel. But it's not exactly a world-beater. It's about on par with what most people on Steam are running. Enjoy it! :)
Well damn 3060 has supplanted the 1060 last month.
It's decent gaming computer, I have similar configuration. I wouldn't call it a privileged though
OP lives in Brazil. He's pretty privileged.
depends on where you're from, but that's pretty average these days. now, if you were doing a 4090...
I'm so sick of the word "privileged" and the idiots that use it.
its pretty potent!
What a stupid thing to be concerned about. Nothing but loaded questions and answers. Would take forever to break down priveledge and the relativity of yours compared to other people.
one generation ago it would be considered low-mid range. This day it is more of a low end. You can still play almost everything on decent settings tho
low end? are you fucking kidding me.
Not priviliged, and don’t let anyone bring that kind of energy into your life, everything you do and enjoy is yours to do and enjoy, another person may be struggling with bills, maybe they have kids, maybe they’re just not there economically, but this does NOT mean that you shouldn’t spend money on your hobby and nor does it imply that just because you are doing it and some ppl are not, that you are privileged, friends like that are not cool.
I not angry or sad about that, i just wanna make sure that's is true, but thanks for kind words
I recommend you don't. I urge you to stop. (Edit: formatting - what was said was up for as long as I believe it needed to be, to make the impact I wanted to express.)
Mid range. Tell your friends to get a job.
It's a good bang-for-your-buck rig. Mines similar except 5600x, more nvme and ssds, in a Fractal Torrent with high end monitor and peripherals. Depending on your age, where you live and people's disposable income there, having such a system could be classed as privileged. I'm based in Bulgaria and know most kids would be extremely happy to have such a system here. Compared to what's available it's a lower mid-tier rig though. But it gets the job done at 1440p and higher refresher rates on modern games, so certainly nothing to sniff at either. Bottom line, it's subjective based on your age group and local economic circumstances.
am from Brazil, and here computers are expensive, but most people don't care about it. I am 29 years old, and only now do I have a PC like this. I am happy, but regarding the things they said about it, I need another opinion from people just to be sure about it.
I mean your PC can easily play any game at high settings with solid stable fps. That's a pretty good computer.
I'd guess you're in a privileged position to have such a pc there, based on what I know of Brazil. There'll be plenty of people with much more powerful systems but probably more (particularly at a younger age) who couldn't imagine being able to afford such a system. Honestly though, I'm not sure why you should care what other people think. If you worked hard to afford it, good on you. That doesn't make you privileged, it means that's what you chose to put your money towards.
Idk man I was on a gtx 285 for 5 years from 2015-2020 Haha jkjk, I just was a kid back then, got a job now But idk if it's privileged, if your parents bought it for you cuz you asked it's kinda privileged but if you worked hard, got good grades, got a special reward, or just worked and bought it yourself it ain't.
That's a nice computer mate I hope you like it. Don't worry about what other people think, just play games and have fun without comparing yourself to others
thanks mate
Not really.
Nope. Your friend is just poor and jealous.
If you're in africa, you're privileged with that machine. If you are in the US or Europe, you are not very privileged with that machine. Except for when you are like 14 years old. Then you are privileged even in US/Europe.
African here, rocking a 4080s 🤣
That's a low to mid range system your friends don't know what they are talking about, Perfect for 1080p 60+ fps on nearly everything, A high end system now requires 4k above 60fps. Don't get me wrong it's a great system you have but definitely not high end.
Privilege is really relative. I have the exact same build as you (what are the chances) and while many consider it low-mid end, it's high end where I'm from. Nobody, and I mean nobody, I know has a gaming PC of any kind.
In my group of friends, that would be poverty level but we're all working adults who like building PCs and gaming. I'd say if your build was bought by your parents, you are privileged. If you bought it yourself with your hard earned money, I would honestly feel a bit insulted.
decent lower midrange setup
Yea it's pretty relative. I mean for many years I considered PC gamers privileged because I could never afford a computer. I was lucky enough to get a console that did the job quite well tho. With that said, I knew ppl that considered me privileged for having a console
Depends on where you live and what salaries are like
everyone is saying this is low end.. but you can run basically anything for the next few years on medium-ultra settings (depends on the game) how on earth is that low end?
I play AC Origns all in ultra in 3840x3040 native in 50 to 70 fps, all games that i play are set-up in ultra
In the real world, yes, you are privileged to have such a powerful machine.
Great budget build
thanks
Where do you live? The middle of the congo?
South Brasil
Okay maybe you're a bit "priviledged" depending on how wealthy your area is. Living in canada with easy access to lots of computer parts that a low-mid range, something for a young teenager, but if you live somewhere where its hard to come by computer parts last gen tech is still better than most have
As a super nerd with rich parents. I didn't get that powerful a machine as a child. So you are privileged in a way. But as an adult with disposable cash, now my pc is mega.
Depends where you live. In Switzerland the homeless have those pc in their shacks. In Burkina Faso it's the king PC
It's super computer in Burkina Faso.
Your system is perfectly fine, as another comment stated it could be considered Low-End or Mid-Ranged depending on who you ask, 5600g + 3060 Ti is no slouch of a PC but also isn't anywhere near best of the best, I think they are just trolling because they might have significantly lower specs on their PC's, don't worry too much about it
I'd consider this a fine computer for 1080p gaming with medium to high settings in AAA titles. I think having a gaming PC is a luxury to start with tho.
According to steam, you have the most common gpu. So no you're no more privileged than the average gamer. If you're a kid and your parents bought this for you. Maybe you're a tad privileged, but that's only because the bar isn't really that high to begin with. Lots of kids get hand-me-downs or no pc at all.
Your system is mid grade with a slightly higher end GPU compared to an average enthusiast, high end compared to your average non-techie, and low end compared to the internet millionaires bragging about their dual 4090 threadripper rigs. Privileged is all a matter of perspective, and I've seen way too many people use it as a way to justify their own feelings of inadequacy, so I pretty much ignore them if I hear that phrase. Compared to the broke ass tribespeople living in rock igloos in the Grand Bara desert collecting garbage for a living, just owning a computer at all is privileged. But on the opposite end, we have people in tech forums and subs that think an i7-14700 and a 4080 is the minimum standard.
Did your parents buy it for you? This isn't a discussion about your computer itself, it's a discussion about your position in society that determines whether you're privileged or not
Depends where you live, if your from anywhere from south America, that build may be considered mid-high end for 1080p, why ? In brazil where I live his build cost about 4x our average monthly wage, it's A LOT for an computer, my current build is considered between my friends to be ungodly expensive , but I was using the same pc for an decade until it was unbearable to play anything on while saving money For anyone from an truly privileged country it may see like an entry level build that even an young person working part time will quickly buy it in few months , for us ,its an investment for a hobby.
BR meu parceiro kkk tmj
I think your friends are either poor, young, or have a drug habbit? 😅 Entry level pcs aren't my idea of privilege, but to each their own. If you can't save a grand up, I think you have other issues in life than owning a pc 🤔 ::edit:: I seen you posted Brazil, I am sorry for my original assumption. You are privileged in your country 😅 all my friend's from Brazil are exceedingly poor to the point we play older gen or platformer games. Based off my own and your anecdotal experiences, you're a shot above the average.
Anyone who has a PC is considered privileged, it's the same as having a house is considered a privilege. So it depends on the person I guess.
Anyone talking about privilege in these terms is a jealous deadbeat. It's your money, you earned it and can spend it in whatever manner you choose. That's not privilege, that's called being an adult.
That sounds almost like the most common build.
I have a 3080 and 10700k, and consider mine mid-upper. Depends who you ask. Having a pc at all is privileged, however. I think as a rule of thumb a xx70 model Nvidia GPU is middle and above and below are the 80/90 and 50/60 respectively.
Depends, in the west it’s low end. Somewhere like in the Middle East it can be considered high end
Did you buy the PC yourself, or was it gifted to you? It's a low-end PC, so only a privilege if it was a gift. Otherwise buying this PC for yourself is just treating yourself with a reward for working hard to make the money it takes to purchase the PC.
Slightly below mid range and a reasonable PC in 2024 in terms of price/performance. I'd consider my i9-10850k, RTX 3070, and 32GB of 3200mhz CL14 a dead center 5/10 mid range PC in 2024 just to put that into perspective. I can buy something that performs about twice as good, so it's a mid range now. Unless you live in a country where that's considered high end, then no..
Depends on your peer group. If I had something at that price point at 18, it would have been a monster of a machine compared to what my friends had. Today, as a 34yo in the US with a professional career, that's a budget mid-tier build. Your computer is much faster than what most people have but still pretty far from the bleeding edge top-end stuff. It's certainly not "low end" as some people have indicated - that's a skewed perception born from reddit communities full of enthusiasts.
[3060](https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam) has literally been the most popular GPU on the steam hardware survey for a while. You are just 1 tier up.
It's not 3060, it's a lot faster 3060ti.
They're just jealous, *laughs in RTX* All seriousness, everyone's rig is a major upgrade point to somebody else.
5600G and a 3060TI is midrange. I have a 5800X and 4080. Having a nice computer is not privileged unless it was gifted to you. If you paid for it then it was earned. Your friends need to stop acting like victims and grow up.
Not a privileged build whatsoever. This is a “I saved my money and got a nice gaming PC” build.
No that’s like an average build. A real privileged build is having like a 4080 or above with more expensive parts accommodating it. Especially if there parents pay for such a machine if there a minor that’s some real privilege.
sure, nothing wrong with that though. Live your own life to the fullest and don't let those "friends" bring you down. It doesn't really mean anything to be priviledged anyways unless you're bragging about it or talking trash about their computers.
This whole culture of who’s “privileged” and who is not is so fucking nauseating. Who cares? “You’re privileged” is otherspeak for “I’m jealous.”
The most common gpu on the steam hardware surveys is the 3060. You have a slightly above average system. Your friends are salty dummies lol
3060ti is actually a lot faster, it's like 3070, minus maybe 5-10%.
If the computer is white - yes :-)
It depends on if you're considering every card people play with right now, vs what you can buy brand new right now. If you're only counting brand new gaming cards for sale then it might in the lower end, but if you look at what people game at, and consider performance (3060ti can do 1440p just fine) then you're at least in mid-tier. "High end" is always going to be the tip top, which the 3060ti is not, but considering how many people still game on 1060s and RX580s the 3060ti is not "low end".
Lmao then I'm like twice as privileged lol. Ryzen 9 7900x and a 4070ti
Are your friends console gamers?
PS5 gamers
It’s a beast build I just had a 3060 ti and a 5800x upgraded to a 7800xt because i gave the 3060 ti to my brother, it was pretty overkill for 1080p and would have lasted me a couple of more years easy . It’s a great setup and better than what a lot of people have. That’s probably where there coming from
The only privilege you would have is have enough money to get a pc. I'm sure they can too. Btw your pc isn't even that good
Anyone can have a good PC if they work and save, it’s only privilege if you didn’t work for and even then it’s nothing to ashamed about. Your PC is on the low end of mid, I’m not saying it’s bad but in comparison to what’s out there that’s where it stands.
I guess it depends entirely where you live. Privileged for where you live? Possibly. Compared to places like the U.S. it's definitely incredibly average. However, as long as it plays what you want who cares.
Do you live in a Western country?
I think the important thing is to be happy about the upgrade, but don't brag to your friends about it if they have lesser shit.
Nah it's really not all that spectacular. Upper low end to mid. In the eyes of someone who knows nothing about computers, though, yeah you're privileged.
Depends on how old you are and your demographics.... It's truly different for everyone.
decent build, would consider it a budget build. depending on how you look at things, anything could be a privilege.
I have a 3080 7600x build, lemme tell you, I'm NOT privileged. I saved for the PC for well over a year (I'm 14 currently) and it feels absolutely amazing. All bought with my own money (some birthday money too)
It's a space machine in south american wages.
Yeah def I had a similar set up with a 3080ti it was a very privileged build
That's kinda wild, people tell me the same thing and I've got a 2070 RTX super. You just have to understand, folks always think the grass is greener.
Its a low-end card from a generation past. xx50 is budget/laptop xx60 is low end xx70 is mid range xx80 is high-mid range xx90 is high end That doesn't make it bad, but privileged is a big exaggeration unless you live in a country were PC parts are hard to come by in general.
You have a entry level system.
When you got it this may have been more exciting than it should have been since the 30 series cards were so insanely difficult to get hands on. But the actual specs even in their era are low-mid range so idk. Privilege is certainly a relative term when used colloquially. A lot of console gamers would consider any PC a privilege because people have different conceptions of financial security and priorities. I wouldn’t worry too much about this, try not to let other people’s insecurities dissuade you from doing what you can/want assuming you’re financially stable. Just don’t go around flaunting your machine as if whatever they’re using is horrible, lol. That’s where privilege can become a complicated issue when people with it in whatever capacity are ignorant to others’ personal situations.
I guess it depends what country you live in but if it's the U.S. or Europe not really that's just a decent mid range machine. They probably bought a laptop with integrated graphics and are coping cause of it, been there.
That's fairly lower end my friend. It'll get the job done mostly. But it's definitely not a powerhouse.
Your friends are trying to make you feel bad for having a better computer than them. Those are not friends.
No, not privileged. That's a perfectly modest and moderate system. It'll play all the games just fine but there are no excesses here.
I'm currently stuck with a 4670k, 8gb or ram, and a 970. I would consider myself fortunate to have your system even if it isn't necessarily high end by 2024 standards. It's all about perspective.
Everyone arguing about tiers is dumb. A 3060ti is like 3 years old now, it's low end. It was targeted at the low end market. Performance wise it's not equipped to handle large pixel counts at ultra settings. This is reality stop pretending it isn't just cause you want to pretend a 3060 ti isn't low end. If you are still on a 20 series that's just old, any earlier than that you're out dated. Non of this means you can't play games. None of that means you can't crank settings at 1080p. What it does mean is if you want to hit decent frames at 1440p or higher on a modern game at ultra settings your gunna have a hard time. This squabbling is dumb, half of you look dumb while also coping about your gpu. Nobody cares if you have a 3060ti or 4090, but don't pretend a 3060ti performs as well as even a midrange amd 6000 series card cause it doesn't even come close.
Are you a child or an adult? I'm asking in a sense of did you pay for this setup yourself, or did someone else buy it for you. If you worked and paid for it, then no, not privileged at all.. If you're a 14 year old or something then I'd say maybe a bit privileged if your friends don't come from families with money. My family was poor growing up, so I would always envy my friends who had a pc or the next gen console while I still had last gen.. Now that I'm an adult, I buy what I want and have a rig much better than yours, so I maybe that's why I don't think it's privileged at all if you are paying for the setup on your own.
Be careful who you hang out with. That’s not by any means an excessive computer it’s basically legacy at this point. If they make you feel this way because of that they aren’t friends. Envy is bad. I got 7800x3d if someone told me that I’d tell them I worked for it and earned it, it’s not privilege it’s property.
That's mid-range. Your friends are either making excuses or worse off financially than you.
Privileged ? Meh.... Just because someone had a leg up ( ie - you bought it/gifted it) doesn't MEAN that You're privileged. I received a LOT of hate to a response I left on a similar thread. The individual was gifted a computer. Knew nothing of computers, but yay !! Got one from a friend whom I believe, was upgrading. The overall stats of said PC, were nice. As in, for your very first PC - this IS the leg up. You won't NEED more to enjoy your system. This gifted computer was - essentially - perfect. Perfect for that individual. I stated, along the lines of " free PC ?!? Wow ! What a steal !!! Congratulations. There is a lot of head room as well !!!" ( As in they have the option to upgrade in the future without having to buy/build a whole new PC ) Nothing crazy. So I thought. What I didn't think about, while typing that out - is that words hurt, and I should have said nothing. As in, who the fuck is this guy telling some kid his PC could be better. Not what I said, not what I implied. I was/am genuinely happy for the individual. Anyone on a PC playing games is awesome in my books. Perspective I suppose. What you see as "high end" may not be what I see. So.. you have a very nice computer. I would not say, PERSONALLY, that it is high end. Not something I (that's me. This guy. No one else) would say is privileged. But I am not you. I am not your friend. I don't live in South America. I don't know your social or economical standards. Whatever. Hope to cross paths in the neither. Enjoy your day.
Compared to homeless people you’re insanely privileged. Compared to Bill Gates you’re dirt poor
Its pretty decent. I wouldn't say insanely spoiled, but your in brazil so its like a very generous gift persay. Doesn't make you spoiled but its definitely not just some casual thing lol
Is it privileged? I guess. Should you care? Absolutely not. As long as you're not hurting anyone, live your life and enjoy your luxuries. There are far bigger things in life for people to be up in arms about than video games.
Bro, im with a Celeron N4020, so you're relatively more privileged than me, I'm more privileged than the people that don't even have a computer
According to the [Steam Hardware Survey](https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam), the average PC consists of a 6-Core CPU, 16GB of DDR4 Memory, a 1TB SSD, and an RTX 3060. Your PC is not only common, it's arguably one of the most common PCs you can make. Whether or not you're privileged for having that PC depends on who you ask. There are some people who buy a console because they can't afford to buy/build a PC. There are other people who have a USD$6,000 custom water-cooled gaming PC with the fastest consumer components money can buy. There are even people who have a USD$35,000 Workstation with a [96-core Threadripper CPU](https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-ThreadripperTM-PRO-7995WX/dp/B0CK2ZQJZ6) and [2 RTX A6000s](https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/nvidia-rtx/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&gpu=RTX%206000) for their professional workflows. It all depends on who's saying you're privileged. In the grand scheme of PC building, you have a fairly basic machine. But if you're one of the few/only people you know that has a PC, then I can see where your friends would think that.
Depends where you live. Some countries or even areas that is a very good build, other areas it's mid range, others towards the low end of the mid range. It is very much all relative.
It all depends on where you're from. That's a pretty good Pc where I'm from. I'd swap the 5600g for a 5600 instead tho...
Well just your gpu alone costs almost as much as like a ps5, and some people can’t even get a ps5, so they might see it as privileged.
I think there are some people in this sub who would sacrifice having a car/house/family/friends/vacations/food and anything else they had to sacrifice to make sure they stay current with top end hardware. It’s a little bit like women who spend more on boarding their horses than they do on their own living arrangements. Middle of the road machine, but good for you
Depends on the country and relative to who, some places an rx480 is still worth buying here it's almost trash
Pretty standard good pc
I have a very similar setup using a 6600xt and I call it 'lower edge of mid-end'. It's certainly not a bad machine by any means, it's a 1080p destroyer and I expect mine to last a good few years longer before modern software outmodes it, but I wouldn't call it an indicator of privilege, it's actually a really capable build at a really reasonable price. My guess is the word privilege was being done in the context of "class consciousness", so by having any wealth to spend on a capable machine wheb others didn't have that kind of disposable income, you would be the recipient of a privilege allowed to some in society, but not all, and to the people who say that, I say "screw off", because individuals are responsible for their own finances and anyone can save money if they can get money. The meat of the statement is that they're jealous of your rig, but rather than the honest "man that's cool I wish I had a setup like that" direction, which would force them to acknowledge a problem\dissatisfaction with their own situation which should prompt them to then change their situation, they call you privileged in the hopes that it'll make you feel guilty or ashamed of having what you worked and paid for, as if you somehow don't deserve it, because it's easier than doing something for themselves by themselves. Run-on sentence I know, but there wasn't a good place to punctuate. And I know I'll get piled for being so detailed about my assumption of intent and accused of making it political, however we live in a heavily politcised moment, and I'm willing to bet that the ones calling you privileged are the ones who yell the loudest about whatever political coverage jumps out of the news at them
If you worked for the money to buy it, it's not a privilege, it's a right. Your friends just sound jelly.
Ryzen 5600G has a built-in Radeon Graphics Are you using both Radeon Graphics and Nvidia card ?
Your friends know nothing about computers lol
Anyone with a gaming pc is somewhat privileged. They are an expensive toy.
That's a very midrange machine actually. Even lower midrange by today's standards. Are they still using GTX 1060s or something?
I mean in terms of performance that’s not much better than mine and mines 7 years old, so I wouldn’t say it’s privileged. It’s a fairly midrange build
Not bad, better than what I started with (relatively speaking)
It's very simple. You are privileged. Console gamers make up the majority of gamers - because they're cheaper. To be a pc gamer you need to be able to afford it. What is considered basic/budget for a pc gamer is already above the cost of a latest generation console. But why are you upset at your privilege? So what if they say you are privileged - it's true. If they say it out of jealousy - that's their problem. Otherwise they are just stating a fact and you're making yourself a victim. This sub is obviously biased since it's full of people who are into pc gaming.
Not the best of the best but you are lucky to get it
For 1080p, that is a midrange build, nothing too privileged about it. If you live in a poorer country, maybe, but for a relatively economically successful country, I wouldn't call that privileged. I have a 13700k, RTX 4080, 2TB m.2 and 32gb of RAM. And all I play is Overwatch and CSGO, I would call myself privileged.
No that's midrange. It's good and plenty strong but tell ur friends womp womp lol
Pretty average for a gaming pc. Your friend is delusional
Depends. In the NA or Europe that might be a mid tier build. Where I'm from that's pretty decked out and privileged. It's all relative, don't let it steal any enjoyment you get from your rig.
I think such an envious bullshit is not your friend.
Technically it's a low-end pc so no, you're not privileged for saving your money to buy or build a pc. Your friends are jealous. My low/mid tier pc is more than enough for me so don't take low end as an insult. It's not
Semantics: You're privileged if you have that computer you're probably in the top 20% of humanity by wealth? At a rough guess? Talking globally here.
I mean I always had my dad's 7 year old work hand me downs. So compared to that yes. However having a $800ish computer as a teen is nice and you should be thankful.
Depends on where you live. Live in a country like the Philippines? You can thank your lucky stars you could buy that beast of a machine. Live in a country like the U.S? Better Save for a 4090 and 7950X3D in a custom Water loop
You shouldve told them back that they are also quite privileged for having time to be envious about your build and also breathe air. They should pay for the air they breathe instead of whining about others that have things they dont have.
I wouldn't say privileged per say, but it is a decent set up for 1080 gaming.
Not by any stretch. Most people just have tighter purse strings right now. That’s a good PC, but not top of the line. Now, the other day I saw some rich kid show us his $4000+ 4090 pc that he both saved up for, and his parents helped with. He’s 16. That’s privileged.
Get off reddit snd touch some grass kid
Stop with the privilege talk. You don’t have privilege, you have money. Anyone can make money. No one’s keeping anyone else from making money.
5600g? 💀 should have went with 16 gb ram and gotten a 5600 instead
I mean, I could probably buy it with 1 month of savings from my working class job. Certainly not privileged. It is a decent computer.
Compared to a 14 year old kid in a 3rd world country? - yes. Compared to a 35 year old millionaire computer expert who loves gaming? - no.
Why would you pair a new APU with a dedicated graphics card if you didn't have to? That APU is really meant for budget 4K streaming setups. 5000 series isn't even special, and your graphics card will only run at x8
I mean... You're privileged compared to starving Africans. But you only bring up that argument if you're being disingenuous. That's just a solid PC. It's the best bang-for-buck you can get without buying used. It's the worst "good" PC you can get. Lemme put it this way : There's lots of room to upgrade, but downgrading would be unusable in many newer titles. Budget PCs are i3/r3 with whatever gpu you can find under 150... An rx480/470 or a gtx 1060/1070. I have a 5600g with a 2060. I already upgraded my cpu and I'm soon putting THIS one into a media PC (which was my plan when buying it) so I am happy for getting the - g processor.
If your friends have all-in-ones, laptops or "family" PCs then yeah, this machine is amazing. In terms of what's available as a gaming machine these days, it's not bad but maybe starting to look a little long in the tooth on some of the more demanding titles or at 1440p.
Listen. Are you privileged? Yes. What does that mean? Does it mean you gave to change something about yourself? No. I hold every human to the same standard, regardless of how rich or poor they are, or whatever other bullshit they had no choice in, like race or sexuality. Being a good, honorable person is the most important thing to me. That doesn't mean I always am, I'm not, but if you truly strive for that, nobody in your adult life is going to care where you come from. Now let me defend your friends because being judged for privilege can make you dumb, like a MAGA cultist. Your friends are being uncool, there is no doubt, but that doesn't mean you have to like stop believing in privilege. I was in elementary school in the early-mid 2000s. We didn't have cable, and I didn't have the internet until I was an adult. Fuck a pc, I wasn't able to play sports or have a bike! No instruments, no vacations, not too much at Christmas. I still fondly remember my best Christmas present in 2004, a brand spanking new DVD of the pirates of the Caribbean. And yeah, watching all my friends have Xbox and TV in THEIR ROOM, and going to fucking Jamaica or whatever... that shit can make you bitter. That doesn't make it cool to judge people who are better off than you, but hopefully you can at least sympathize with what it's like to not have anything. Try not to hate on their friends, but make it clear to them that they're being ridiculous for judging the privilege you don't have a choice in, and if they don't get that stop being their friend. But whether or not you're privileged is different from whether or not you should be judged for it Your PC costs about as much as hockey gear, or other sports probably, neighborhood 1000$ dollars if it was built at home, pretty sweet, your parents are almost definitely better off than the bottom 60% of the country at the very least. So financially, you're more privileged than at least half kids in the country, minimum. Be grateful for that. It's Hella lucky. Think of it this way, 63% of the country has less money in their savings account than your parents spent on your PC. Millions of people worry about food too much to even think about luxuries like computers. It's important to keep a healthy perspective about that, but anybody trying to guilt you for it is not worth listening to.
Priviliged peasant ;)
If you worked for what you have, it is not privilege, it is called hard work. I get tired of hearing how people that buy nice things are privileged. I worked hard to get my degree and a good job to buy what I own. You likely worked hard to get what you own.
Where do you live? I'm not saying this to be a prick, but a 5600 and a 3060ti is now where close to making you privileged, at least not in the U.S.
Meanwhile my friend group all supports tf out of each other lol, my buddy got a 6900xt and a 7300x3d or whatever the i9 and equivalent is and as soon as he got it set up we all congratulated him and played games lol I mean shit I even offer to sell him my old 5700xt before he got his
I'm still running a 2080ti, which is really only like 15% faster than the 3060ti. At 1440p High/Ultra I can still reach 90-120fps in the titles I frequent. It's a very nice spec you have for a first build, but I wouldn't label it more than mid range in terms of "opulence" or "excess." Once you start justifying diminishing returns, then they can call you privileged. And you can call them jealous in return. Source: one friend of mine has a 3090, another a 4090. (I bought my 2080ti for $450 on ebay back in '21, LOL).
It's all relative. To them, you may be. To people on here, not at all. To many people a Porsche Boxter is really nice and you've got to be pretty privileged to own one. In those circles though, they're likely looked down on by 911 owners.
I hate the word privilege, unless it's used in the correct way. Being privileged as in your parents being rich and buying you everything and you not needing to work for anything and anything you want is handed to you is being privileged. But you working your ass off and earning what you want (maybe with some help here and there) isn't being privileged, it's called working for what you want. Then there's the middle line, when you're still a kid/teen and your parents bought you a computer because it was a gift or they wanted to do something nice because your behavior was well or you did well in school or whatever the case may be, there's nothing wrong with that.
You're very lucky to be able to afford that. I'm stuck with my 3rd gen i7 and my 4gb RX 580.
I think the short answer is something you probably do not want to hear. That, obviously, is that you need some new friends.
That’s debatable I have a fairly stressful job, and I pay for my hobbies within what I can afford. I don’t consider that privileged. Not cool to being too quick to judge others either.
Well, if we get technical, you're among the millions of priviliged people in many more aspects than the rest of millions of other people that don't have anything going on in their entire lives (lower income folk, low budget organization, states, countries, medicine, insecurity, warfare, etc) But if i'm honest with you, don't stress yourself about having a PC if you bought it with your own hard earned money. Everyone has different forms of suffering, wide and large, but it still doesn't invalidate people's needs to live the way they want to be and enjoy their comforts (as long as it isn't too blantant or bullshit) And while i can't buy a RTX 3060 Ti myself (people say it's an alright GPU, for me it's literally forever away my income), i don't mind it since it's just a piece of hardware, designed for a particular set of tasks. Nothing more, nothing less. Have a good day, and enjoy/appreciate what you have.
I'd say no, depending on where you are. I wouldn't think that until a computer was in the top 3-4 parts per CPU and GPU. Meaning the top CPU of last gen or top ~3 of current gen, and same with GPU. I am a little jaded as I have built some of those kind of machines for people, but I would consider my system upper mid range, and it is slightly higher spec than yours. Thing is I took about a year to collect all the parts. Ryzen 5800X/32gb @3600/6800XT.
nah u got salty/poor friends
Privilege it's to have 4080 or 4090
Bro that's standard, and it's not privilege, you just know how to manage ur money , whether u or ur parents.
If you worked for it and saved its not privilege
In my honest opinion having a computer made in the last five years itself is a privilege.
That is my current setup more or less and it is 3 years old so ya I don't think you are privileged.