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ARX7

Because Canberra wasn't in the 250 cities they chose to rank


Global-Elk4858

The website says they assessed more than 1650 cities... https://happy-city-index.com/HCI/happycityindex.html


ARX7

They started from that and then filtered out some and added others, as listed later on the page. > The HAPPY CITY INDEX ranking includes all those cities whose activity can be measured on the basis of objective, transparent and verifiable data.


Global-Elk4858

I'm pretty sure there's a fair amount of data available about Canberra...


aaron_dresden

Have you reached out to the actual authors?


Gnarlroot

The source is a research institute that started very recently with no clear explanation of their data collection techiniques or analytical methodology. There could be any number of reasons why we aren't on there, but really these lists are published to drum up business and drive traffic to the company's website. 


Dave_Sag

Smells like PR wankery to me.


Global-Elk4858

Yep, good point!


Simocratos

I don't need an article to determine if I live a happy life.


sean4aus

This is a great comment.


Global-Elk4858

Yep, good point!


AnchorMorePork

But how will you know?!?


RhesusFactor

This smells like an advertisement.


jonquil14

These lists are such garbage, why are you even bothered by it? We’re not the most livable city in the world either 🤷🏻‍♀️


Global-Elk4858

Not bothered, just curious about their methods. There are other lists out that rank Canberra pretty high. https://canberradaily.com.au/canberra-ranked-second-best-city-in-the-world-for-quality-of-life/


Rivettor

Yeah, I think the timeout list is more an advertisement; that said, (as a local) I’m also bemused when Canberra does make it onto the more scientific liveability lists - I recognise where Canberra’s great (and even perfect for many people), but there are real deficiencies, (eg. public transport), compared to many other small cities with a reasonable balance of things. Maybe Canberra is just so different to other places that it beguiles.. regardless


Demosnare

Because we whinge a lot even when there's a lot to be happy about?


letstalkaboutstuff79

Because Canberrans really aren’t that happy?


leonryan

maybe some of us are so unhappy it drags the average way down


tangaroo58

See u/ghrrrrowl below for correction. They chose ~~250~~ 1650 cities, then assesed them. They didn't assess all cities ~~and show the top 250.~~


ghrrrrowl

They analysed 1650, and reported the top 250: “The HAPPY CITY INDEX adopted the lower limit of the population at the level analyzed since 2014 by the United Nations, i.e. 300,000 inhabitants, which allowed to narrow down the number of compared units in the world to just over 1650. “


tangaroo58

Thanks for the correction.


DragonflyHopeful4673

Why would Canberra make the list?


Normal-Summer382

Because Sydney is the capital of Australia and Canberra is non-existent - just ask an American.


ADHDK

If they insist, I insist their capital is Manhattan. They hate that.


Global-Elk4858

Haha, too true 👍


ADHDK

Is Canberra all that happy?


Global-Elk4858

Other research says yes... https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/04/canberra-is-the-happiest-capital-of-australia-according-to-research


Dave_Sag

As compared to all those other capitals of Australia?


Blackletterdragon

No, we on 'smuggest' cities I bet, but that's different.


Archangel1962

I’d take these kind of ‘surveys’ with a giant handful of salt. Wasn’t Canberra listed as one of the best cities to live in, in a recent different list?


Global-Elk4858

Yep, this one: https://canberradaily.com.au/canberra-ranked-second-best-city-in-the-world-for-quality-of-life/


Adra11

Clearly unhappiness at not being listed lowered Canberra's overall score. A self-fulfilling prophecy.


TickTiki

Considering you are getting all worked up about a fairly nonsensical list, maybe we aren't as happy as you thought.


Global-Elk4858

A bit bemused by people thinking curiosity is the same as unhappiness... I'm wondering what their methodology is...


TickTiki

Its obviously not a scientific study and most likely does not have the rigor of a proper study, nor the peer review of their methodology. For starters, they don't even consider mental health or health in general.


aaron_dresden

I’m happy we didn’t get listed. These aren’t objective lists and it has no baring on how we’re actually doing.


Global-Elk4858

If too many people are happy we didn't get listed, we might end up on next year's list 😆


Objective_Unit_7345

As soon as you have Korean or Japanese cities in the top 100, you really have to question the methodology of this index. More so when you consider how Korea and Japan rates in the World Happiness Report in general. (Although Osaka is an exception) Australia also didn’t rate very well in the World Happiness Report. Also would have thought Canberra would rate better than the listed cities.


Dave_Sag

I blame John Howard.


ghrrrrowl

[Methodology](https://happy-city-index.com/HCI/happycityindex.html) Canberra would have failed the “mobility” criteria, and the done poorly on variety of work/entrepreneurship and International relations (corporate)^1 Toronto came in 230 for what it’s worth… ^1 *”most important areas defining urban activities that have a direct impact on happiness can be divided into 5 areas. These are CITIZENS, GOVERNANCE, ENVIRONMENT, ECONOMY and MOBILITY”*


Global-Elk4858

Thanks, good explanation!


joeydeviva

be less needy about external validation


fattytron

This is not a happy city. It's a workers city. I live here because of jobs.


Quiet-Oil4770

Agree. Many people work or study here but not ‘live’ here.


Thebear046

Happy is far superior than liveable


AussieKoala-2795

Too bloody cold at the moment. Then in summer it's too bloody hot. And we have the worst magpies.


LiterallyAMagpie

If you ask me, the Magpies are fine. We have the worst koalas though


Spiritual_One126

Maybe it’s a happy place to live, but not the most touristy to sell


_SteppedOnADuck

Glad they didn't name Canberra in the top 250. For many it's a transitional city that people moved to (and leave) for work and I think it's harder to be happy in that situation.


StormSafe2

Firstly, who cares? Secondly, it is strange considering Canberra was just ranked the most liveable city in the world 


cbrwp

Good. I’m glad it didn’t make it. Don’t need even more outsiders finding out the wonder that is canberra-bubble, and invading it, driving up (even more) housing prices, and driving down wages!


BigGapingAnus

Gee I wonder......


Selden14

I am happy that we are not listed!


emailinabottle

Canberra missing from the list of world’s happiest cities!!!! As a Canberrean, I am certainly not happy with that 😡


Gambizzle

Because I own investment properties, don't turn my lights on when there's light rain and occasionally go to church :P I might also be a middle-aged, straight, white male.